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Topic: power line (mains) noise (dirtly electricity) from Power Supplies HEALTH HAZARD - page 2. (Read 11340 times)

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I also agree that it tastes like ass, lol.  I do prefer Sucralose myself, plus that's heat stable at a higher temperature and tastes better and they use like 5x less of it.
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It may not cause cancer, but people are allergic to Aspartame Smiley

I just avoid it because it tastes like rancid buttholes.
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Feel free to ridicule the OP, but don't be such loudmouths about an illness you know nothing about. kthx.
You might want to get more familiar with RF signals, Desolator. "Humans are not made out of metal" is the poorest argument.

Ah yes, EVERYTHING is harmful.  All the companies in the world are out to get you!  They know their products kill you and they're doing it on purpose as population control!  And you're so much smarter than everyone else for figuring that out so anyone who doesn't believe it is stupider than you, making you totally superior.

That's what these BS conspiracies are all about.  Every respectable study has proven cell phones do not cause brain cancer.  The ones that suggest it does are headline-baiting, scientific grant money-baiting assholes making shit up.  Remember Aspartame?  Remember the dozens of studies proving it does nothing?  It was a fake chain e-mail that suggested it does cause cancer and it convinced so many morons that I know people who still avoid Aspartame to this day.  But like I said, believing in a BS conspiracy like Aspartame is killing everyone when the majority of people don't makes you feel all warm and fuzzy that you're so much smarter than them.  Whatever.  Keep pretending everything that plugs in is killing you.
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Mad7Scientist i hope you dont believe this bullshit ur talking, otherwise your really lost!
Just a typical person crying for attention, well he got it a bit but in the wrong direction. i dont think he likes what were doing with him Tongue
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LOL,  Where do these idiots come from and how many idiots buy this kind of FAKE shit
COMMON SENSE PEOPLE
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Feel free to ridicule the OP, but don't be such loudmouths about an illness you know nothing about. kthx.
You might want to get more familiar with RF signals, Desolator. "Humans are not made out of metal" is the poorest argument.
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Insane conspiracy theorist / scam artist clue #1: everyone blathering on about "dirty electricity" and the harm that man made EMF can do are ALWAYS selling something.

And skateboarders too! lol.  Anyway, totally true Tongue anyone who thinks this is legit better look ANYWHERE else for their info on damaging EM fields and whatnot.

Btw don't forgot the golden rule!  If it has enough broadcast energy to cause harm to a mostly non-metal human body, the FCC already made it illegal for disrupting everything else Tongue
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Insane conspiracy theorist / scam artist clue #1: everyone blathering on about "dirty electricity" and the harm that man made EMF can do are ALWAYS selling something.
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You guys this isn't a freaking joke. This is serious. If he were to not use these filters, it's inevitable that he would turn completely black.

This isn't the first time this has happened either!

If you'll recall, there was a black guy that had this happen to him, started getting white spots.

Short time later, he's completely white.

Yes, Michael Jackson was the first for this to happen to, he was living in a house full of minors for years.

Oh that is fucking priceless
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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How many Henries can you get out of that with an air core?
No need for accurate readings, really. IMO

Every PSU usually already contains an X2 capacitor, but it serves an entirely different purpose. When you switch off the power supply, the internal inductance (rather small though, in switching psu's) will create a high voltage peak that can be harmful to other devices in your house. The X2 cap is there to filter out just that and is not designed to get rid of continuous ripple. Though it works for that too, it's not at all a good solution.

You are not talking all bullshit with the "small capacitors in our body" thing. Capacitive coupling is a brilliant thing with a lot of potential: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxqnyCnnTZM (skip to 2 minutes for the interesting stuff Smiley ) The device in video accumulates a high voltage of many kilovolts in the coil, able to light just about any kind of gas lamp. For what it's worth, I work with this kind of devices and have never had a problem with my skin, or any other symptom whatsoever. Your PSU does not create a fraction of this voltage, and even if it did it would all be sent down the mains wiring, not accumulated anywhere like it is in the video. So any energy coupled around is insignificant and the bullshit is right there with black spots and made up units (GS?).
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It's easy to make such a filter yourself. Just take the power cord that goes into your power supplies and wind it into a form of a coil.
How many Henries can you get out of that with an air core?

The suggested "capacitor in parallel" solution is a VERY BAD way to deal with the noise!
My filter draws 768VA but it consumes less than 3W Smiley

Doesn't the Xc help counteract all the Xl anyway.

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Well cell phones are not good for people under the age of 12 iirc but only because the skull has not thickened enough to block the waves the phone generates. So kids should be fine texting, but not talking on cell phones directly on their ears. ( I worked for Verizon for 5 years so I got lots of research coming across my desk. )
They have to come up with a reason for why advertising cell phones to children under 12 is illegal in France yet assure people that they are safe for everyone else. When phones were first coming out there was much more concern about this and the phone companies were saying all kinds of bogus stuff about how the radiation is so weak and a tree leaf would stop it.

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Beyond that not much is going to generate anything strong enough to hurt you or anyone else unless your going to go hug your mining rig for hours on end.
IT GOES THROUGH THE WIRES FOR THOUSANDS OF FEET, including the 120v power lines connecting the houses on the block. It doesn't mater how close you are to the power supplies. It's all about the wires going to it, how far down the wire you are, and the impedance of the wire at each spot.
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except EM radiation generated by electrical equipment doesn't affect humans in any way Tongue or frogs, lol.
That may be the controversial state of the science, but depending of course on which kind of electrical equipment you mean.. it's not true. And it really sucks for the sensitive people.
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I assumed people would put 2 and 2 together and I was lazy but the 2nd part of the post should have been...

So obviously all the electrical equipment around that device required to generate that kind of field is releasing enough "super dangerous OMG mega EM radiation" to give you a brain tumor and then cook it Tongue  There are probably huge transformers and capacitors, all killing everyone within a 1000 foot radius...except EM radiation generated by electrical equipment doesn't affect humans in any way Tongue or frogs, lol.
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I thought being a lying, scamming piece of shit was a reason.  Whether he's 5% right or not, this is the most blatant, idiotic bullshit post I've ever seen.
argh. I should have read better. It looked like someone scared was looking for help and others just started mocking him. :/ Yea, there is a reason to ridicule the OP.

You know what, here's a frog levitating in a 10 tesla magnetic field, surrounded by enough EM radiation to do whatever it is you claim EM waves do to people, and yet there he is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vyB-O5i6E
the frog wanted me to tell you that we're not made out of metal and you should all shut up.
Funny fact of the day hm? Not so much. Static magnetic field is not EM radiation and does not "do whatever it is you claim EM waves to do to people". Earth has it's own magnetic field, what kind of an evolution would not get rid of life forms to which magnetic fields are hazardous? Say hi to the frog when you meet next time and tell him I want that machine to the nearest amusement park.
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Electromagnetic pollution is a real health issue, so no reason to ridicule the OP.
I thought being a lying, scamming piece of shit was a reason.  Whether he's 5% right or not, this is the most blatant, idiotic bullshit post I've ever seen.

You know what, here's a frog levitating in a 10 tesla magnetic field, surrounded by enough EM radiation to do whatever it is you claim EM waves do to people, and yet there he is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vyB-O5i6E

the frog wanted me to tell you that we're not made out of metal and you should all shut up.
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Funny how this forum is filled with technology nerds of all kinds and still most are completely ignorant to electromagnetic pollution. >_> Electromagnetic pollution is a real health issue, so no reason to ridicule the OP. In this case tho, I do agree that unless OP suffers from electromagnetic hypersensitivity there should be no health issue from switching PSU ripple. I would start to worry when a fluorescent light bulb can be lit via capacitive coupling, by simply holding it near the wires or PSU Cheesy

Bad ripple at outlets can however cause problems to other electrical equipment, esp. old devices such as CRT TV's and monitors. It's very easy to get rid of ripple currents tho, and you don't need to buy expensive filters. It's easy to make such a filter yourself. Just take the power cord that goes into your power supplies and wind it into a form of a coil. Coils resist the change of a current, so with properly sized coil your 50Hz mains power can freely flow through, but the higher frequency ripple is filtered. Depending on the switching frequency of the power supplies you might have to make a rather large coil or use an iron core.

The suggested "capacitor in parallel" solution is a VERY BAD way to deal with the noise! Don't do it! Adding capacitance creates a short circuit for the high frequency ripple currents. The ripple no longer finds it's way to the wall plug, true, but instead, it's all dissipated in the capacitor and wires, which results in higher power draw, higher temperatures and generally wastes both electricity and your equipment.
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Well cell phones are not good for people under the age of 12 iirc but only because the skull has not thickened enough to block the waves the phone generates. So kids should be fine texting, but not talking on cell phones directly on their ears. ( I worked for Verizon for 5 years so I got lots of research coming across my desk. ) Beyond that not much is going to generate anything strong enough to hurt you or anyone else unless your going to go hug your mining rig for hours on end.

Don't know what kind of research you were doing, but if you can come up with these kind of statements, I hope they didn't invest much in you.  Your skull thickness has no effect on blocking the cell phone radio waves.

http://www.greenhealthwatch.com/newsstories/newsmobilephones/childrens-heads-more-radiation.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1565477/Mobile-phone-cancer-risk-higher-for-children.html
http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/31/who.cell.phones/index.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9554782.stm

Sorry it was the middle of the night, I meant radiation. But dang your kind of a dick arent you.

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"Children's skulls and scalps are thinner. So the radiation can penetrate deeper into the brain of children and young adults. Their cells are at a dividing faster rate, so the impact of radiation can be much larger." said Black of Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.
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Well cell phones are not good for people under the age of 12 iirc but only because the skull has not thickened enough to block the waves the phone generates. So kids should be fine texting, but not talking on cell phones directly on their ears. ( I worked for Verizon for 5 years so I got lots of research coming across my desk. ) Beyond that not much is going to generate anything strong enough to hurt you or anyone else unless your going to go hug your mining rig for hours on end.

Don't know what kind of research you were doing, but if you can come up with these kind of statements, I hope they didn't invest much in you.  Your skull thickness has no effect on blocking the cell phone radio waves.
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