Topic: power line (mains) noise (dirtly electricity) from Power Supplies HEALTH HAZARD - page 3. (Read 11340 times)

Well cell phones are not good for people under the age of 12 iirc but only because the skull has not thickened enough to block the waves the phone generates. So kids should be fine texting, but not talking on cell phones directly on their ears. ( I worked for Verizon for 5 years so I got lots of research coming across my desk. ) Beyond that not much is going to generate anything strong enough to hurt you or anyone else unless your going to go hug your mining rig for hours on end.

Boy,did get you catch me off guard or what  

Very well done sir !!!!!!!!

I needed that laugh dude,perfect timing 

You guys this isn't a freaking joke. This is serious. If he were to not use these filters, it's inevitable that he would turn completely black.

This isn't the first time this has happened either!

If you'll recall, there was a black guy that had this happen to him, started getting white spots.

Short time later, he's completely white.

Yes, Michael Jackson was the first for this to happen to, he was living in a house full of minors for years.

You really have no idea what EMR is, do you? Read up on Einstein's Wave Particle Duality before spewing more shit out of your mouth.

This isn't even electromagnetic radiation as your post refers to. These are frequencies in the 1 to 100 kilocycle range which is way below what are used for radio communications, except for some specialized things like the national time digital transmission (for those self setting clocks) and communications to submarines. Picking up these signals is done with magnetic detection since an antenna that is long enough is impractical because the length would be in the miles.

I am talking about voltage which comes in to your body through the capacitance in the air around you. It's like constantly touching two pieces of wire with a small but never ending high frequency voltage across them.

Cell phones and other microwave band digital transmissions are bad for you but that's a different story. Governments had to raise the safe exposure levels for certain microwave radiating devices to even be legal.

Look at the second picture on linked page below of the nose with the spot on it. Imagine something a bit smaller and possibly darker. Imagine them in fairly random places that are exposed to the sun, and also in places which are not exposed to the sun as much. At first a bunch appeared from sun exposure right after I first started mining, and then more kept appearing during the winter in random places. I never had such a thing happen like this and I've been out in the sun plenty of times. I continued to be in the sun this summer and it did not cause spots to appear more so in the sun exposed areas.
http://beauty-healthcare.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-to-remove-dark-spots-on-face-dark_26.html

That doesn't stop electrostatic force, which is how capacitors operate. The air and plastic between you and the wire creates a small capacitor. You would have to have metal shielding to actually ground out the electricity.

These are low frequencies which require much more inductance to block. The power supplies probably do have filters and those filters probably reduce the noise quite a bit but it is nowhere near enough. Those power strips are probably just a ferrite bead or choke with the wires wrapped around a couple times. It would help for something like 100MHz but it is nearly useless for this.

This noise sits right in the middle. With really low frequencies, it's so low that it's not harmful and the amount that comes through the capacitance in the air is very low. With high frequencies, small inductors and capacitors put in for EMI suppression easily block the noise. If you increase the frequency by 10, then 1/10th of the noise makes it through the EMI suppression inductors, and 10x as much is absorbed by the EMI suppression capacitors so you have 1/100th as much noise coming out.

You could spend your time pointing out real scams instead of helping suppress health information that would cause the mainstream medical system to lose money. Those people are the ones with the mult billion dollar scam going. The U.S. even went so far as to bribe officials in Ecuador to take a man who was selling herbs to cure cancer to the U.S. market on his website, and have him illegally extradited to the U.S. and put in jail.

Do you have a single transformer that hooks your house or a couple houses to the power lines or is there a split phase 240V line that goes down the street and hooks all the houses together on the secondary sides of the transformers? Having it shared might reduce the power line noise by sharing it with all your neighbors. This way is most common in residential areas.

Because most people probably find it mildly interesting and would not ignore it. Then there is a small group of people who are hellbent on being against what I am saying and you have to be able to see what I say to have a rebuttal.

Anyway, so far things are going all right. The GS meter measures peak noise so plugging in 1 PSU verses having 4 plugged in doesn't change the GS meter reading much. It is 750 GS with 3 on and 800 GS with 4. There's still 400 GS on the filter input side and about 120 GS in the house. With some added capacitor filters it's down to 70 GS on those circuits. Everything seems to be working fine. I haven't gotten any new spots, but it's only been two weeks. Besides, I was going to add the filter anyway before I ever knew anything about spots. So either way I'm happy.

The spots are kind of weird. It's like there's this black stuff under my outer skin layer skin like a tattoo. I scratched off the outer layer of skin over a spot and I scratched this gummy dark stuff out. There was just a tiny bit of blood in that layer. Then it healed back to being normal with no spot. You guys are probably going to be all upset that I scratched my own skin without having a doctor involved and dared talk about it. Talk about a scam.

Hang on...

Did we just get trollied?

How is the OP's ignore button not highlighted yet?!  It should be dark orange with a big, flashing animated gif red warning lights or something by now, lol.

BFL has been announcing features out of thin air left and right, but if they could include one of the filters that Mad7Scientist is selling, I would quickly cancel all my other asic orders and load up on their Singles.

Which company can give me the fewest spots/Gigahash?

please, I hope no one believes this bullshit...

Hi, I run a mining rig myself in England. The hardware is as follows

8 x AMD 5870
8 x ASUS M4N68T-M LE v2
8 x Kingston 2GB DDR3 1066
8 x Corsair CX600 600W
8 x AMD Sempron 140

They are all out in the open with no cases or shielding of any type.

They are connected to belkin surgemaster power strips, and then straight into the wall socket.

Besides the bitcoin rig, we also have huge amounts of other computer equipment in the house, multiple laptops, computers, multiple quad screen setups, etc. Suffice to say we have a very heavy power draw in this house, and way more than OP.

I have been mining since May 2011.

I live in a 6 bedroom family / guest house. People are always coming and going, we have lodgers, lots of whom have stayed for more than 6 months, along with family who come to stay. We've had at least 10 people stay for >6 months in the same house as all this equipment.

None of my family, or any of the lodgers that have visited, have bumped into the issues you are speaking of, I have no black spots on my skin, and neither does anyone else.

Unless you can put forward some credible evidence that your black spots are caused by power issues (A letter from a doctor, perhaps?) I call this marketing FUD.

Brian Dunning, FTW!

Scam.

Fuck you.

Seriously, fuck you in your face.  People like you make me sick. You remind me of the guy trying to sell blue green algae to stimulate stem cell production to cure diseases.

"I've been mining for 12 months, and I've had black spots appear in the last 12 months.  Therefore, BTC GAVE ME CANCER!"

Sorry for the aggression, but seriously.  Flimflammers like you piss me off. Whether you're doing it on purpose to make money, or because of your lack of education and ignorance.

You should introduce yourself to Brian Dunning at http://www.skeptoid.com  And teach yourself some critical thinking skills.

Kinda breezed over the post but um, are we talking about .hack\\GU? lol.

Mad, yes.

Scientist, no.

this sounds like a joke.

Tripp Lite ISOBar.  But you can buy inline power supply filters from Mouser for a few bucks. 

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Schaffner/FN9233B-10-06/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsSuP4UBDzYOwl3D%252b%252bql6gQ4adt9tKgyqM%3d

Not sure if that would work as a retrofit in most powersupplies... probably not.

7BTC for an inline filter is some serious snakeoil.  Hit up mouser

You all missed the obvious hole in the whole story: most miners will be hooked up to low-pass filters anyway. The surge suppressor in most power-bars will block radio frequencies. This can be a problem if you want to do things like powerline networking.

Bubonic plague.

Isn't almost all of the wiring in a house insulated from the air by the plastic jacket surrounding the conductors?


Pics of spots plz.