buying PPT accounts at -25% PM me now...
Selling my PPT for 115%ahh, the glass is half full is it?
Glad to hear it, I was actually joking around but since you commented on it , mind sharing why you are so optimistic?
Topic: PPT/Pirate Pass-Through OPs need our support now, more than ever - page 2. (Read 7698 times)
August 30, 2012, 10:43:31 PM
ahh, the glass is half full is it?
Glad to hear it, I was actually joking around but since you commented on it , mind sharing why you are so optimistic?
August 30, 2012, 10:12:04 PM
buying PPT accounts at -25% PM me now...
Selling my PPT for 115% August 30, 2012, 10:11:08 PM
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August 30, 2012, 10:00:36 PM
August 30, 2012, 09:47:17 PM
According to IRC, Pirate has paid 22/459.
Now imagine he takes over all the PPT accounts, a huge number that probably well under 100BTC in them. For a relatively minor sum, he could pay out 750/1500 or whatever the numbers end up being over the course of months. Progress is being made so people are not happy but not suing, and Pirate can wait until the attention dies off before just going away.
See everyone vs Bitcoinica Consultancy as a reference.
Now imagine he takes over all the PPT accounts, a huge number that probably well under 100BTC in them. For a relatively minor sum, he could pay out 750/1500 or whatever the numbers end up being over the course of months. Progress is being made so people are not happy but not suing, and Pirate can wait until the attention dies off before just going away.
See everyone vs Bitcoinica Consultancy as a reference.
August 30, 2012, 09:31:27 PM
no offence to zyk, but he can hardly string an english sentence together, so i doubt he wrote the above passage.
I lol'd August 30, 2012, 07:40:37 PM
Support hahaha
What I see happened is that pirate did warn that there were no guarantees and there were plenty of others warning of a scam that got ridiculed severely.
Now we have a bunch of greedy people who got screwed over by a scammer whining.
I have not heard any of these victims talk about how this has tarnished the Bitcoin name. Did anyone have any thought into how much time and effort the developers and honest business folk are putting into Bitcoin to make it a better option for humanity and thus all of us in now profiting, just to have a bunch of selfish people taking the limelight once again of which the detractors love to focus on.
There would be far more society uptake of Bitcoin without the got to have it all now greed.
Those who want their BTC value to increase will never know just how much they have missed out on because of all the constant rip offs holding back a much larger populace of users starting the BTC journey.
The only thing to kill Bitcoin will be greed.
What I see happened is that pirate did warn that there were no guarantees and there were plenty of others warning of a scam that got ridiculed severely.
Now we have a bunch of greedy people who got screwed over by a scammer whining.
I have not heard any of these victims talk about how this has tarnished the Bitcoin name. Did anyone have any thought into how much time and effort the developers and honest business folk are putting into Bitcoin to make it a better option for humanity and thus all of us in now profiting, just to have a bunch of selfish people taking the limelight once again of which the detractors love to focus on.
There would be far more society uptake of Bitcoin without the got to have it all now greed.
Those who want their BTC value to increase will never know just how much they have missed out on because of all the constant rip offs holding back a much larger populace of users starting the BTC journey.
The only thing to kill Bitcoin will be greed.
August 30, 2012, 07:11:24 PM
no offence to zyk, but he can hardly string an english sentence together, so i doubt he wrote the above passage.
hence, i still don't know who the author is.
It reads like it was written by someone whose first, second and third languages aren't English.
August 30, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
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It's now time to let your PPT OP 'down from his cross' and allow him/her/it to DEFEND the integrity of this community.
Thats how it should be defended by you and payb.tc :
As bitcoinmax always stated, your coins are lost !, as Trendon Shavers shaves us all.
In case the defaulted entity BCST is assuming its liabilities to bitcoinmax or pays out
any amount to bitcoinmax, all principal investments are payed back evenly up to the
amount deposited. The gained interest of all accounts is put in escrow until further notice.
If bitcoinmax liabilities to you are not fully covered by this proceedure and in case
BCST pays zilch, i payb.tc, will pact with bitlane to recover what is being able to recover
from Trendon Shavers.
The interest which i accrued during operation of bitcoinmax up to date is given back to recover
your principal investments.
As far as it stands, pirate has not option neither right to get your data or information
through my hands.
Seeing forward to provide further investment possibilities to you in the future.
Please comment
Yours sincerely..........
to be clear: i am not the author of the above text, and don't know who is.
I added some bolding because it gets lost, but basically, he was giving you your statement.
no offence to zyk, but he can hardly string an english sentence together, so i doubt he wrote the above passage.
hence, i still don't know who the author is.
August 30, 2012, 06:51:16 PM
Quote
It's now time to let your PPT OP 'down from his cross' and allow him/her/it to DEFEND the integrity of this community.
Thats how it should be defended by you and payb.tc :
As bitcoinmax always stated, your coins are lost !, as Trendon Shavers shaves us all.
In case the defaulted entity BCST is assuming its liabilities to bitcoinmax or pays out
any amount to bitcoinmax, all principal investments are payed back evenly up to the
amount deposited. The gained interest of all accounts is put in escrow until further notice.
If bitcoinmax liabilities to you are not fully covered by this proceedure and in case
BCST pays zilch, i payb.tc, will pact with bitlane to recover what is being able to recover
from Trendon Shavers.
The interest which i accrued during operation of bitcoinmax up to date is given back to recover
your principal investments.
As far as it stands, pirate has not option neither right to get your data or information
through my hands.
Seeing forward to provide further investment possibilities to you in the future.
Please comment
Yours sincerely..........
to be clear: i am not the author of the above text, and don't know who is.
I added some bolding because it gets lost, but basically, he was giving you your statement.
August 30, 2012, 06:07:27 PM
Quote
It's now time to let your PPT OP 'down from his cross' and allow him/her/it to DEFEND the integrity of this community.
Thats how it should be defended by you and payb.tc :
As bitcoinmax always stated, your coins are lost !, as Trendon Shavers shaves us all.
In case the defaulted entity BCST is assuming its liabilities to bitcoinmax or pays out
any amount to bitcoinmax, all principal investments are payed back evenly up to the
amount deposited. The gained interest of all accounts is put in escrow until further notice.
If bitcoinmax liabilities to you are not fully covered by this proceedure and in case
BCST pays zilch, i payb.tc, will pact with bitlane to recover what is being able to recover
from Trendon Shavers.
The interest which i accrued during operation of bitcoinmax up to date is given back to recover
your principal investments.
As far as it stands, pirate has not option neither right to get your data or information
through my hands.
Seeing forward to provide further investment possibilities to you in the future.
Please comment
Yours sincerely..........
to be clear: i am not the author of the above text, and don't know who is.
August 30, 2012, 05:52:20 PM
the bargaining is good for the legal position of anybody not bargaining as the bargain is an admission of liability by the bargainer.
Its called settlement and it occurs all the time without admission of guilt. There are times where its better to settle than it is to have everything get blown up and the lawyers take an even bigger cut.
I would happily pay double just to see Trendon's ass in jail, after his performance over the past 2 weeks.
August 30, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
Can someone please tell me why Pirate now needs these details???
Assuming that his aim is to cover his ass to the maximum legal extent possible and that he is actually planning on making some kind of payment and not just stalling, his lawyer would be advising him to make payment directly to the people who are actually owed the money. Pirate cannot pretend that the PPT operators are the people who are owed the money - there's far too much evidence of him knowing that the PPT operators were investing other people's funds. Returning the funds directly bypasses the risk of the funds not being returned to the actual investors.
My guess is that he's expecting this to end up in court at some point and doing everything possible to minimise the chances that any kind of conspiracy between him and the PPT operators could be established. A court would almost certainly order that he return funds to the investors rather than the PPT operators so it's likely his lawyers are advising him to do just that. Whether the PPT operators who don't forward the requested information will get thrown under a bus is something we'll have to wait to find out.
I'd be extremely cautious if he's unwilling to disclose the name and contact details of his lawyer, though. Private information is best sent to someone who is legally obligated to use it only for a specific purpose.
August 30, 2012, 05:02:49 PM
the bargaining is good for the legal position of anybody not bargaining as the bargain is an admission of liability by the bargainer.
Its called settlement and it occurs all the time without admission of guilt. There are times where its better to settle than it is to have everything get blown up and the lawyers take an even bigger cut.
August 30, 2012, 04:43:47 PM
Can someone please tell me why Pirate now needs these details???
.....just send him all the details, so he dosen't have another excuse to say that all did not comply.
^ The statement above is in contradiction to one of (pirateat40's) Trendon's ORIGINAL RULES WHEN MANY OF OUR ACCOUNTS WERE SETUP.
Loosely quoted (as PIRATE has since deleted all traces of it....)
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...if you borrow or invest other user's money into my program, I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR ACCOUNT...I ONLY DEAL WITH DIRECT ACCOUNT HOLDERS !
Withholding such information at this point CLEARLY suits the rules and regulations Trendon initially set our accounts up with and the forum administration could very well reach back into page revisions and pull THAT statement out of this were to ever become a legal issue, or his so-called 'grounds' for REFUSING TO RE-PAY LENDERS.
bitlate do you have original post/link?
This might be a reason, but may as well be a bit far fetcheted, but makes for an interesting thought.
August 30, 2012, 04:42:59 PM
Can someone please tell me why Pirate now needs these details???
A list of marks is a handy thing to have for a scammer. Or when they refuse then he'll say "Oh well I tried...". He never needed this information to run the business, not sure why he needs it to close down the business.
Or maybe he's a govt man sent to take down bitcoin, and they want some names to add to their database.
Probably has some fucked up agreement with the IRS to screw a lot of people...
August 30, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
Can someone please tell me why Pirate now needs these details???
A list of marks is a handy thing to have for a scammer. Or when they refuse then he'll say "Oh well I tried...". He never needed this information to run the business, not sure why he needs it to close down the business.
Or maybe he's a Man in Black sent to take down bitcoin, and they want some names to add to their database. [/tinfoil]
August 30, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
Can someone please tell me why Pirate now needs these details???
August 30, 2012, 04:25:11 PM
GPUMAX owing BTC to Miners - 500 BTC / 3-4 days
BTCST owing to Lenders - 500,000 BTC / 2 weeks
...so it stands to reason why GPUMAX had a payment update from Pirate today in IRC, while the rest of us suckers are still out in the cold.
It's all about priorities, details and responsibility !
Go Pirate Go !
BTCST owing to Lenders - 500,000 BTC / 2 weeks
...so it stands to reason why GPUMAX had a payment update from Pirate today in IRC, while the rest of us suckers are still out in the cold.
It's all about priorities, details and responsibility !
Go Pirate Go !
August 30, 2012, 02:14:09 PM
I will be complying. My PPT only ran for ~2 weeks, shortly after the trust account announcement as a way to get/keep 7% on the bit I had invested. My 'subs' were all internal transfers, so releasing the 'who' isn't damaging in any regard because the information is actually already well known to pirate. The only thing that changed is some mining income for one or two of my 'subs' which is actually fairly small in the grand scheme of things. I've spoken with most of my subs already, them having reached out to me, and they've all been ok with my forwarding of information.
Well, I hope it all works out in that case, as I really DO see a 'bargaining' about to commence.....for repay as well as legal freedom
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