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legendary
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The Best Tipster on the Forum!!
Now all the JD investor going to PRC  Roll Eyes

its expected they need to invest somewhere

ln and pd dont have invest so its normal that they come here !
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
Now all the JD investor going to PRC  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
I lost the liqour money boys...
Current stats could do with an update. Profits took a beating last night!
newbie
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I registered here just to say that I'd highly recommend any potential players/investors to check this site out.

I've been a member for a while now and it's great to see how much it has progressed/grown.

The admin, Dean, is an absolute stellar guy and I've the greatest of respect for him.

/2c
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 18

SOLUTION
Such as here is how another casino deals with this  https://blockchain.info/address/153qjBg4A5jZhQoPv5J6dfwAjhgZppAjjs
As you can see the deposits belong to 1 player - who has deposited a total of 1.18 BTC
This wallet belongs solely to that user account and then the BTC is swept into the larger accounts of the house hot wallet and ultimately cold wallets.


So as noted above the solution needs implemented because KLYE is up BTC at PRCDice.eu but even with an account balance of 0 his deposit address remains ~1.85 BTC https://blockchain.info/address/18HxZfZve6FoCkKH3q1hccEHg1zpYbdKH9

This is an awful way of running the wallets.

Bitcoin address are no representation of site balances. Everyone knows that. Probably a difference is that many gambling sites uses hot deposit addresses while PRC uses cold addresses. IMO that is the reason why most gambling sites will remove the bitcoin right away to move them to a cold wallet. Using cold addresses as deposit addresses already, is -much- better IMO.

I just checked my nitrogensports depo address and it took them also 2 weeks to remove the btc from the address. I don't see the problem with it. It's just your depo address, my balance is on the site :\

+1.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1003
Designer - Developer
This has nothing to do with me having trickery on you.

I still have to go through my damn wallet dude to make sure all of those numbers match up with mine but I am thankful Dean pulled that info for me so I can look into it further. Thanks Dean for the info we will be in touch.

P.s Fuck you ricky, Even if I was starving you'd just laugh and claim yourself king.. Almost ruru esque. ,_,
hero member
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SOLUTION
Such as here is how another casino deals with this  https://blockchain.info/address/153qjBg4A5jZhQoPv5J6dfwAjhgZppAjjs
As you can see the deposits belong to 1 player - who has deposited a total of 1.18 BTC
This wallet belongs solely to that user account and then the BTC is swept into the larger accounts of the house hot wallet and ultimately cold wallets.


So as noted above the solution needs implemented because KLYE is up BTC at PRCDice.eu but even with an account balance of 0 his deposit address remains ~1.85 BTC https://blockchain.info/address/18HxZfZve6FoCkKH3q1hccEHg1zpYbdKH9

This is an awful way of running the wallets.

Bitcoin address are no representation of site balances. Everyone knows that. Probably a difference is that many gambling sites uses hot deposit addresses while PRC uses cold addresses. IMO that is the reason why most gambling sites will remove the bitcoin right away to move them to a cold wallet. Using cold addresses as deposit addresses already, is -much- better IMO.

I just checked my nitrogensports depo address and it took them also 2 weeks to remove the btc from the address. I don't see the problem with it. It's just your depo address, my balance is on the site :\

+1 to this
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
I lost the liqour money boys...
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Fuck off ricky.

I never gambled the .6 away you goof. I told you that so you could do the whole "I told you so" routine.
It was gambled up to .75 or something and used to pay rent.

Way to hide behind an alt you fuckin' coward.

So you lied to me about losing money just so I would give you money? I'm not hiding behind anything; it should be abundantly clear from my messages that you know who I am. You have just admitted to not being 100% honest with me right now, so what am I supposed to do? Take you at your word that you "forgot" about 1.8 BTC for a full week when you can barely afford to feed yourself? Get a grip, you handled this really badly. I love you man, but just email Dean and he will show you history of everything. Don't blame how Dean configures site wallets on you not being able to keep track of you financials.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner

SOLUTION
Such as here is how another casino deals with this  https://blockchain.info/address/153qjBg4A5jZhQoPv5J6dfwAjhgZppAjjs
As you can see the deposits belong to 1 player - who has deposited a total of 1.18 BTC
This wallet belongs solely to that user account and then the BTC is swept into the larger accounts of the house hot wallet and ultimately cold wallets.


So as noted above the solution needs implemented because KLYE is up BTC at PRCDice.eu but even with an account balance of 0 his deposit address remains ~1.85 BTC https://blockchain.info/address/18HxZfZve6FoCkKH3q1hccEHg1zpYbdKH9

This is an awful way of running the wallets.

Bitcoin address are no representation of site balances. Everyone knows that. Probably a difference is that many gambling sites uses hot deposit addresses while PRC uses cold addresses. IMO that is the reason why most gambling sites will remove the bitcoin right away to move them to a cold wallet. Using cold addresses as deposit addresses already, is -much- better IMO.

I just checked my nitrogensports depo address and it took them also 2 weeks to remove the btc from the address. I don't see the problem with it. It's just your depo address, my balance is on the site :\
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000

SOLUTION
Such as here is how another casino deals with this  https://blockchain.info/address/153qjBg4A5jZhQoPv5J6dfwAjhgZppAjjs
As you can see the deposits belong to 1 player - who has deposited a total of 1.18 BTC
This wallet belongs solely to that user account and then the BTC is swept into the larger accounts of the house hot wallet and ultimately cold wallets.


So as noted above the solution needs implemented because KLYE is up BTC at PRCDice.eu but even with an account balance of 0 his deposit address remains ~1.85 BTC https://blockchain.info/address/18HxZfZve6FoCkKH3q1hccEHg1zpYbdKH9

This is an awful way of running the wallets.


Why? The deposit addresses are just for depositing money in and having a history of deposits that you can verify.
These addresses are already cold wallet addresses so safe and secure, no need to instantly sweep them.
It's the same at SWC and other Bitcoin poker/casino sites I have played at.
It would be easy to do it the way you suggest but this is the first time this has ever been an issue in a year and 3-4 months.
legendary
Activity: 1358
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Designer - Developer
You told me you had ~0.6 in the last week, and needed 0.1 more for rent. This was after JD closed. When I told you I wasn't giving you the 0.1 BTC you said you gambled away the 0.6 you had trying to get it. Where did you gamble it? PrimeDice? PRCDice? Definitely not just-dice, that much is absolutely certain.

I remember distinctly because you said you needed $500 to do the transaction on localbitcoins.com, but you needed more to trade with whoever you are trading with since you only had ~$450. You either have a terrible memory or you are a filthy liar.

Why do all my numbers add up and not yours? You are the first person to have this apparent problem, and instead of talking to Dean about it in private you talk crap about him in PRC and just-dice chat.

What do your numbers say you should have? Do you even have any idea?

Fuck off ricky.

I never gambled the .6 away you goof. I told you that so you could do the whole "I told you so" routine.
It was gambled up to .75 or something and used to pay rent.

Way to hide behind an alt you fuckin' coward.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
I lost the liqour money boys...
You told me you had ~0.6 in the last week, and needed 0.1 more for rent. This was after JD closed. When I told you I wasn't giving you the 0.1 BTC you said you gambled away the 0.6 you had trying to get it. Where did you gamble it? PrimeDice? PRCDice? Definitely not just-dice, that much is absolutely certain.

I remember distinctly because you said you needed $500 to do the transaction on localbitcoins.com, but you needed more to trade with whoever you are trading with since you only had ~$450. You either have a terrible memory or you are a filthy liar.

Why do all my numbers add up and not yours? You are the first person to have this apparent problem, and instead of talking to Dean about it in private you talk crap about him in PRC and just-dice chat.

What do your numbers say you should have? Do you even have any idea?
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1003
Designer - Developer
KLYE, how about you explain why you were begging people for 0.1 BTC in chat only a few days ago because you needed it for rent, yet you wait two weeks to accuse Dean of robbing you?

I find it extremely hard to believe anything you're saying about this. Dean has just explained how it works, and everyone from just-dice.com and prcdice.eu knows full well you have not had that much BTC on site at any given time.

Many in this thread have used PRC for up to a year now with no issues, and while I'm only there 10 days myself, I haven't had one single issue.

KLYE said he lost .6 there just the other day? I suppose that's part of the magic 1.8 that he lost too? When Dean has comprehesive user stats and histories KLYE will see how much of a fool he's making himself out to be.

Love you KLYE, but cut the bullshit.

That .6 was lost on JD before it closed. I am not accusing Dean of robbing me. I just find that the numbers don't add up on my end and I need Dean's numbers to verify my own. I don't think the JD nor PRC folks can truly know how much BTC I have or do not have at any given time.

I by no means mean this as a personal attack against the site or the credibility of Dean.. I'd just like to know how the hell these numbers make any sense and why I am out 1.8BTC because of it. :/
legendary
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Ok.

Please explain to me how much profit I am up on the site..?
And why I Deposited 2+ BTC and withdrew only .70 something


Pretty sure I am + profit on this site. Actually I know I am..

This is fishy as hell Dean, I thought your site to be more trustworthy than this. :/


Actually yeah, it would be interesting to see

1) KLye's deposit confirmations to his account
2) KLYE investments (+/-) if there is one
3) Klyes gambling (+/-)
4) KLYEs withdrawls

As you can see from the deposit address KLYE has deposited 2.01974877 BTC

Total investment: 0.73283400 BTC
Total divested: 0.73276700 BTC

Total Dice profit: 0.47907823 BTC

Total Withdrawan: 2.49876000.

Here's a list of withdrawals:
Amount   Date   Address
0.17204300       2014-06-23 22:28:59.723   1DegenNfysnV9nisUnMQ5rB8yRkUFmqWwB
0.33000000       2014-06-24 20:17:48.807   1Kx4eFYWEXgfWybeuZapJugLDxvJ4eRtUo
0.10000000       2014-06-24 21:24:58.443   1Kx4eFYWEXgfWybeuZapJugLDxvJ4eRtUo
0.30100000       2014-06-24 22:58:09.860   1DegenNfysnV9nisUnMQ5rB8yRkUFmqWwB
0.05010000       2014-06-25 01:09:56.207   1DegenNfysnV9nisUnMQ5rB8yRkUFmqWwB
0.50100000       2014-06-25 02:56:21.693   1DegenNfysnV9nisUnMQ5rB8yRkUFmqWwB
0.10073700       2014-06-25 03:33:43.063   1DegenNfysnV9nisUnMQ5rB8yRkUFmqWwB
0.10000000       2014-06-25 12:56:12.260   1Kx4eFYWEXgfWybeuZapJugLDxvJ4eRtUo
0.72368000       2014-06-25 22:24:23.220   1Kx4eFYWEXgfWybeuZapJugLDxvJ4eRtUo
0.05010000       2014-06-26 01:15:20.400   1Kx4eFYWEXgfWybeuZapJugLDxvJ4eRtUo
0.07010000       2014-06-26 22:03:10.813   1Kx4eFYWEXgfWybeuZapJugLDxvJ4eRtUo

Note that withdrawals are manual and so the date above will be some time before the amount was sent to the address.
sr. member
Activity: 266
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I lost the liqour money boys...
KLYE, how about you explain why you were begging people for 0.1 BTC in chat only a few days ago because you needed it for rent, yet you wait two weeks to accuse Dean of robbing you?

I find it extremely hard to believe anything you're saying about this. Dean has just explained how it works, and everyone from just-dice.com and prcdice.eu knows full well you have not had that much BTC on site at any given time.

Many in this thread have used PRC for up to a year now with no issues, and while I'm only there 10 days myself, I haven't had one single issue.

KLYE said he lost .6 there just the other day? I suppose that's part of the magic 1.8 that he lost too? When Dean has comprehesive user stats and histories KLYE will see how much of a fool he's making himself out to be.

Love you KLYE, but cut the bullshit.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1003
Designer - Developer
Kyle. To me it seems you need a good sleep.

I barely know you, but this week you seemed to care about every satoshi you have, because obviously you don't have that much. You do not really think you just lost 1.8 btc out of no where from some deposits 1 WEEK ago, right? You think you wouldn't notice if your deposits of 1.8 btc weren't credited in the whole damn week?

According your chat, you are drunk right now and barely slept. Could it be that you are overlooking something or panicking because you would hoped you had more?

Sleep some. Let Dean mail you your depo/wd history + gambling profit and check it later. I agree there should be pages for that, and Dean knows that and will make that if he has time.


uvwvj, I think your message is def overreacting too. Dean holds 500+ coins, most of this in: https://blockchain.info/address/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd He has been nothing but an honest guy in the 1+ year that I have spent on his website.

I am NOT drunk right now. Chat is full of KLYE hate. I have had little sleep in the past 24 hours, But I will not sleep until this shitstorm is sorted out. uvwvj has a very valid point. Nico, I run an absolutely unhuman sleep schedule. Often staying up a few days at a time and sleeping entire 18-24 hours at a time. It is very likely for me to have deposited and fallen asleep at any point in time.
I want the information requested above as by uvwvj immediately.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner
Kyle. To me it seems you need a good sleep.

I barely know you, but this week you seemed to care about every satoshi you have, because obviously you don't have that much. You do not really think you just lost 1.8 btc out of no where from some deposits 1 WEEK ago, right? You think you wouldn't notice if your deposits of 1.8 btc weren't credited in the whole damn week?

According your chat, you are drunk right now and barely slept. Could it be that you are overlooking something or panicking because you would hoped you had more?

Sleep some. Let Dean mail you your depo/wd history + gambling profit and check it later. I agree there should be pages for that, and Dean knows that and will make that if he has time.


uvwvj, I think your message is def overreacting too. Dean holds 500+ coins, most of this in: https://blockchain.info/address/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd He has been nothing but an honest guy in the 1+ year that I have spent on his website.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1003
Designer - Developer
Ok.

Please explain to me how much profit I am up on the site..?
And why I Deposited 2+ BTC and withdrew only .70 something


Pretty sure I am + profit on this site. Actually I know I am..

This is fishy as hell Dean, I thought your site to be more trustworthy than this. :/
legendary
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*** FIRST I AM THE LAST PERSON TO DEFEND KYLE ***

But he has brought up a very good point in the wallet coding abilities of the PRCDice site imo -

Kyles wallet has been proven to be - https://blockchain.info/address/1DegenNfysnV9nisUnMQ5rB8yRkUFmqWwB
He has made deposits that have been confirmed by Dean to this address https://blockchain.info/address/18HxZfZve6FoCkKH3q1hccEHg1zpYbdKH9 to credit his account at PRC, so who else deposited a total of over ~2BTC to the account?

Issue imo is clearly how can one person defend his/her deposits if the depositing address is not addresses per each individual user, and thus is something happened could you prove your deposits reached the target correctly.

SOLUTION
Such as here is how another casino deals with this  https://blockchain.info/address/153qjBg4A5jZhQoPv5J6dfwAjhgZppAjjs
As you can see the deposits belong to 1 player - who has deposited a total of 1.18 BTC
This wallet belongs solely to that user account and then the BTC is swept into the larger accounts of the house hot wallet and ultimately cold wallets.

So did Kyle lie after I brought this to his attention and ask about his 1.8 BTC, more than likely yes, but what if someone like me sent coins to Kyle straight to this address and did not get credited to his account, how would/could I prove it?

Invest here with caution!


Well first off, all those deposits to that address were from KLYE, he said himself that he made several deposits from JD and other places into that address. All of them have been credited to his PRC account.

All deposit addresses ARE unique to one user.

What KLYE failed to understand is the deposit address final balance shown on blockchain.info does not represent the total balcance of his PRC account since all bets are off the blockchain.

All deposit addresses are stored in a cold wallet so I don't do instant sweeps as there's no real need.

Say you deposit 1BTC to your PRC deposit address. Play a bit and lose 1BTC. That deposit address may still show 1BTC final balance as it hasn't been moved to investors cold wallet or used to cash anyone out.

If someone invested 1BTC, their deposit address final balance may show 0BTC as the 1BTC may have been moved to the investors cold wallet. They still definitely have 1BTC in their PRC account though.

This is quite standard on all sites I've played at that have bets off the blockchain.



legendary
Activity: 1358
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Designer - Developer
First off, My initial (and most) deposits have come from my 1DegenNfysnV9nisUnMQ5rB8yRkUFmqWwB  address.

The multiple address inputs into 18HxZfZve6FoCkKH3q1hccEHg1zpYbdKH9 were from JD.
They have not been credited to me and I am waiting for Dean from PRC to right this wrong.

Initially he claimed "The address was used before" but you can clearly see here that my 1Degen address first accessed the 18HxZfZ addy.
 https://blockchain.info/address/18HxZfZve6FoCkKH3q1hccEHg1zpYbdKH9

1Degen is the first address to use this deposit address..
I deposited from many other places but was not credited for them... :/

I hope Dean rights this.. As he so far has been nothing but stand up.

Dean if you are indeed reading this post please just return my non-credited to 1DegenNfysnV9nisUnMQ5rB8yRkUFmqWwB


Please sort this out.. I trust you will.

Cheers,

KLYE
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