Topic: [PRE-ANN] Ergo Platform is coming, the AAA class of blockchains - page 14. (Read 33840 times)

On Space-Scarce Economy by Dmitry Meshkov at CESC2017

https://twitter.com/ergoplatformorg/status/920674745011572737

Scorex 2.0.0-RC3 released on Github / Sonatype

https://twitter.com/chepurnoy/status/918853069810565120

Waves and Ergo to collaborate in “liquid democracy” applications

https://twitter.com/chepurnoy/status/918601357418029058

Dmitry Meshkov presents Scorex, the smallest Blockchain in Scala, and Ergo at @sfscala

https://twitter.com/ChiefScientist/status/915406465300439040

How to reuse space in the state of a blockchain by Dmitry Meshkov and Alex Chepurnoy #CESC2017

https://twitter.com/paddyncl/status/914987651362562048

A panel discussion on blockchain tech scalability at Genesis Moscow

Patrick McCorry, Alexander Chepurnoy, Dmitry Meshkov, Vlad Zamfir

https://twitter.com/WavesEvangelist/status/911510660302897152

Ergo Q&A, 21.09.2017

Hi Guys, thanks for hosting this Q&A. Will we be able to mine ERGO with the testnet full node?

In testnet0 we'll have scala implementation of the miner, that is already implemented but very inefficient. A bit later we're going implement support for high-performance GPU miners to test everything in more realistic conditions.

What uses will have ergo in the crypto world ? others then smart contracts.

The idea is to have more decentralized ecosystem by having a wider range of options to run a client. For example, there are no SPV mobile clients for Ethereum, ERGO will have efficient trustless mobile clients.

Have you considered making ergo dedicated miners in the future?

Ergo PoW is based on Equihash, so we will be able to take miners from ZCash. For sure they will require some modification to work with Ergo, so finally, we'll have dedicated miners for Ergo

So still no ICO planned?

Yes, still no ICO planned

Will mining have some kind of dev fee which would be used to fund further development of the project?

Yeah, we still consider such a model, that 10% of new coins will go to the foundation and will be used for further development of the project. In future, we're going to implement treasury system to allow our community to decide, how to use this coins in decentralized way.

After implementation of sigma state language for smart contracts, what would be the main direction as for anon functionality, towards Monero, Zcash or towards some own approach? In what extent do you collaborate with Waves on smart contracts? Ergo smart contracts will be Turing complete or non Turing complete ?

There's already very efficient mixing example in ERGO, discussing it with experts. More things in regards with anonymity will come I guess. Sigma-State will be not "turing complete", its idea is to be just more powerful than Bitcoin Script, and at the same time more friendly to analysis / ddos prevention, and also more friendly for offchain protocols. The bet here is to have the heaviest logic in off chain protocols.

You will do more airdrops to WCT? or the airdrop u did was the first and last one to waves community?

An airdrop should be not predictable, maybe another one will take place, who knows

Will the Aspen protocol be running in the Testnet1?

No, Aspen may be implemented in Testnet3 only (it's described in the announcement above)

Only working on the tech now, or do you guys have any plans yet for marketing and promotion to get mass adoption eventually? I am based in mainland China so interested whether or not you might have any plans yet to promote it in China and Asia?

We're working on tech only until testnet0 implementation, after that we'll start working on the legal structure for Ergo, promotion, etc. Our marketing strategy is still an open question, so I can't answer your question about China and Asia right now

Considering two blockchains being mentioned, one for money, another to be public bulletin board for protocols (voting, auctions etc) and data records (DNS etc), with atomic cross-chain swapping, is it possible that there will be one system where everything is combined through sidechains for example or there will be rather two separate systems cooperating in cross-chain style? I understood that you will have 2 blockchains (currency/smartcontract), do you progress on both simultaneously? will they be released at the same time?

Yes, it will be two mainnet blockchains, separation will be done in testnet2/3. Sidechaining is possible, but a lot of tricky questions to be resolved here. I'm aware of some bleeding-edge research in this area, not public atm.

Is there any plan for Hybrid POS?

No, Ergo will be PoW only

What about PoS chains there will be possible sidechains with waves for example?

Pure sidechaining is tricky for PoS blockchains, but atomic swaps should be possible as soon as both chains will have an ability to pay for hash preimage.

About connection with Waves, Sasha is going to invest some money, no more legal ties.

Will IOHK be the legal entity behind ERGO... or perhaps a new foundation? I guess that's what you're sorting out with your lawyers now.

No any connection with IOHK really, maybe Charles or the company will invest, no more. Maybe we'll be happy to buy some research from IOHK, but the company seems to be fully booked by Cardano atm.

Atomic swaps are preferable in a combination of POW-POS systems or they can be also realized between POW-POW systems?

For atomic swaps, only pay-to-hash-preimage and timelock conditions are enough. ZCash guys recently did show CATS demo, ZCash <-> Bitcoin swap. So swaps will be possible for any of Bitcoin and its descendants, ZCash, Ethereum, Nxt, Ergo, and Waves if Sigma.

Are you looking for other “early investors” or Charles and Sasha will bring enough money?

We're looking for more, especially from people with similar vision.

The goal of light full nodes is that they will be able to do verification on any device?

Yes, and also very fast verification, without losing basically anything in security

Is mining additionally ever possible with light full nodes?

No, we assume that miners should have enough resources to keep full state. However will be able to prune old blocks to prevent blockchain boat.

Announcement from Q&A, questions and answers will be published soon


kushti

Hi guys!
12:01

We have basic components tested in isolation. Now we are going to combine them into a working p2p network node implementation. There will be multiple modes of operation  possible for a node (Bitcoin-like full node, fullnodes like fast mode in geth Ethereum client, light full nodes, utlra-light SPV nodes etc), so everyone will be able to run a client with desirable tradeoff in security assumptions / altruism / resources consumption. Hard to say precise day, but we think about few weeks.

The testnet will be called testnet0. After initial release we will be split. Catena, Tolsi and some new guys will work on monitoring / improving networking, resources consumption, better mining software and other issues with the client.

I will switch to finish Sigma-State language which is conceptually done mostly, but a lot of details still to be handled carefully. I hope a paper on the language will be released before mid-Nov. Testnet1 will include Sigma language. ETA is early 2018.

Testnet2 will be about economic parameters, space-scarce economy, soft-forkability (I think it is possible to have minimal number of hard-forks in Ergo, or avoid them at all). If complexity of the system would be still totally undesrtandeable, it could be another testnet, Testnet3, with NG(like Bitcoin-NG)/Aspen support. Or we can go directly to the release, lets' see.

So release will be about second half of 2018. We're planning to do some promos of features we have (lighter SPV, light full nodes etc), in form of blogposts and also short catchy videos.There are four devs at the moment. We will increase tech team slowly, with really technically strong people.We're still talking with lawyers about legal structure etc. Nothing to announce here though.

Hey! I recently launched thread about  ΣRGO in Russian forum section if somebody want join to discussion in Russian https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pow-sigma-rgo-2170754

A lot of news will be announced during the Q&A session, September 21, 10 AM UTC

https://twitter.com/ergoplatformorg/status/910540962119782400

Will there be a bounty campaign to this coin dev？

glad to see this project, this is very interesting, I will continue to see the progress of this project and will join soon, I am very excited, hopefully run smoothly and good luck

Next Q&A on September 21, 1 PM Moscow time, 10 AM UTC #ergo channel in Waves slack

https://twitter.com/ergoplatformorg/status/910172767873576965

I do not think it's better. But, it takes time to check.

Another AMA will be on Thu, 10 AM UTC / 1PM Moscow time. Do you guys think that Reddit is better than Slack?

Links to Q&As:

https://ergoplatform.org/qa_2017_05_29.html

https://ergoplatform.org/qa_2017_06_09.html

Equihash PoW implementation merged, Testnet Update

https://twitter.com/ergoplatformorg/status/906630703923843072

How to join in free giveaway to waves communty?  Interesting to take part in free giveaway.
This ergo want to use token from waves and when ergo will be launch?

Please beware of scams! And dont' trust even single official channel (website, Twitter, slack), it could be compromised. Trust only if all the channels are providing the same information.

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Testnet0 will be on Equihash Proof-or-Work function. Implementation of this PoW is just merged.

Can't say delivery date of Testnet0. Even very initial version of Ergo will be very ambitious:

- light-SPV mode with utterly compact chain bootstrapping data
- lightweight fullnodes with very limited storage consumption
- additional hybrid mode of operations
- memory-hard Equihash PoW

We made a lot of improvements, tests and benchmarks in our own underlying libraries. We are writing a lot tests for Ergo as well (93 tests atm). I think quality should be the highest priority.

We need to start to work on documentation and parametrization of light-spv mechanism and Equihash.


We are ready to show some demos, so we're looking for some guys capable to deliver stunning video effects.

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Recently foundation account sold EFYT tokens for 0.6 BTC via DEX to pay a dev. Maybe we will continue to do that (selling less than 1 BTC / month) in coming weeks.

On marketing / volunteers, we're focusing on technical things now (and overbusy even with them). We do need for some community manager.

Are there any native english speakers on your team? This would help lend the coin a professional look if it were to take off..

the idea is unique, I like your concept, but I'm not sure to join this project, besides, there is no promotion program yet, so I will see the progress of this project, good luck