Topic: [PRE-ANN] [NILI] NILIcoins Art-coins - page 2. (Read 7772 times)

Google got it!!!

https://www.google.co.il/search?q=coca-cola+images&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=620&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=XRM1VLT8M4Te7AbPnIDYCg&ved=0CBoQsAQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=3T4BYqlIcw8HGM%253A%3B9N1VGTdc6U5-1M%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fip.bitcointalk.org%252F%253Fu%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fusfinancepost.com%25252Fwp-content%25252Fuploads%25252F2014%25252F06%25252Fcoca-cola-1.jpg%2526t%253D545%2526c%253DDywp6QvoemjGaQ%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fbitcointalk.org%252Findex.php%253Ftopic%253D798131.0%3B936%3B924

My other thread That of the Coca-Cola coin [ICOKE] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-icoke-coca-cola-coin-798131 actually reinforce everything that I say here by creating the real assets of the coin just like I have described here.
And this one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8937617 is a projection of the future, at the moment I have to develope further that Art-Coins t

This is the link to My Coca-Coin that is in the making [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-icoke-coca-cola-coin-798131

Your other thread makes this one even less credible. Are you that pressed for cash?

There is  the medium in which the art was made. You can not get the full understanding of an oil painting on a digitized image. The Image itself is only a part of the art work. But I have done something similar on TWITTER where I have done art using the platform as the art form.


To illustrate the conceptual end of my work I will introduce you the my work on Twitter. In 2009 I had a twitter account under the name @whatar. back then the question was "what are you doing" and my first profile picture was the first five letters of that question.
For 6 months I have tweeted a few thousand art tweets, making twitter into an art platform. At first very few people got it' but as time past it evolve into a very interesting real time interactive art form #twitterart was one outcome of the graphic ideas but there where many more interesting concepts that sprouted from the medium itself.
@whatar was deleted .
 Deleting it was part of the art concept. There are only a  few places some of the work can be seen like some twitpics in this link. for example this is "the golden tweet" which is a printed copy of the first graphic tweet. It is a printout that was treated with gold paint and became one of a few real objects which are left from the virtual project http://twitpic.com/lluc0   http://twitpic.com/llynf .
Another sample is this  http://twitpic.com/hsgtf  . which is a pic a tweet stating that "this tweet is an art piece" retweeted to make it real http://twitpic.com/hsnh4  then printed to take to a gallery in NYC.
And this work which is a tweet  using the word art which was than  RT by Robin http://twicsy.com/i/aYG6b which made it sound like a bird tweet and made the work.
And here is a picture of my art in a show in brooklyn twitted on the day of the event. there you can see one of my painting A portrait of Picasso http://twitpic.com/lxcqa. 

and that's why an artist can self evaluate their collection at an arbitary million dollars.

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perhaps you could digitise all your art, destroy the phsyical copies, and enter them all into the blockchain .. selling each peice as a seperate coin.

In did I was contemplating much the use of my art for the project. In the past year I tried to work directly with cryptcurrency presenting some of my ideas as platform to develop. But even in this community I had difficulties getting through with my views. Like how value is created and what can give real substance to a coin. When I try to explain people that they will be able to claim back their power by making the choice which coins to except as a reword on their work, they have a very hard time understanding. I realized that the best strategy would be to make my coin and follow with it all the stages of putting value into it. Also my plan is to make a model of all these platform, like the lending pool using the coins which I will create.   

But I think no any relation between art and virtual assets, unless you urgently need the money.

This is where Im heading. There will be a few very interesting stops on the way. 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8937617






IFCC is being develop on the premise of a free independent-currencies market in which currency suppliers and credit providers will have to cater to a decentralized competitive free market of currencies.


The coins mechanism of distribution as loans through the IFCC platform is such that it can guarantee value for lenders based on future demand for the coins. Since value is a product of demand, and fluctuation in demand are a product of projected figures and speculation on future figures, the IFCC system is designed in such way that there is always a predetermined figure for the lowest possible demand of coin supply and Thus a floor for the coins value relative to the entire market.

IFCC vision is to map out and take the steps required to move the economy from “debts based” economy to  “added value” economy.
The philosophy behind the “added-value” economy is such that value is “loaded” into  anything including financial instrument such as currency, based on users demand, thus the users are the ones that should benefit from the value acquired by the power of their trust. The IFCC platform is designed to reword borrowers on the increased value of the borrowed coins.
 
The IFCC network long term vision is to use the network power to offer and replace fiat-based debts with the IFCC network coins that are loaned interest free,
  

Well now, might I suggest you consider a few of these?

http://dogelet.com/buy/Waterfall-Iceland-V1-by-Atomicat
http://dogelet.com/buy/Waterfall-269-by-Atomicat

Stunning detail in this one.

http://dogelet.com/buy/Waterfall-372-by-Atomicat

Sorry, but you'll have to print and frame them yourself.  Personally I consider the art to be more important than the artist, but I can tell you that my work hangs in the provincial gallery of Manitoba.

I love this question! thank you for bringing it up.
 
" but if you create an art work which is a cryptocoin whose fundamental value component is its unauthorized use of the Coca-Cola brand, the owner of that brand will want a (very large, maybe 100%) piece of it"

As a visual artist I can quote the Coca-Cola brand image just like any pop artist before me.  As a conceptual artist  I can have the artistic freedom to use that brand's name in order to create the coin concept. If they had already created a cryptocoin  branded to the Coca-Cola company they could try to  say that I commit an act of counter-fitting, but there in no law regarding cryptocurrency  and their legal use as a company coin. Actually I would be delighted  when they will try to make a legal move against me. It will bring much awareness to  NILIcoins grand vision of creating a competitive market for coins and credit providers . It will also make my Coca-Cola coin limited addition a real collectors item and will benefit my investors instantly.

"If however you haven't considered the fact that you're putting your personal peace of mind and finances on the line, and potentially setting yourself up as a martyr for your art, please do so, as financial might makes legal right in the USA, and companies like Coca-Cola pre-hire an army of lawyers to protect their brand from unauthorized use like you would be doing."

All that I own is my art. and I always had my good hand and my good brains to provide for my needs. I can face off an army of lawyers with a smile. Im sure we will all have much fun with it. 




 

Reading your OP had me skeptical, but reading through your replies convinced me that you believe in what you're doing.

Because of the subjectivity component of art valuation, I may buy some $NILI during your initial offering, but more likely I'll purchase some on the open market.

I'm more interested in the shit-disturbance that a Coca-Cola "art piece" coin will cause. Nobody cares if you make art that derogates Coca-Cola and then sell that art piece... but if you create an art work which is a cryptocoin whose fundamental value component is its unauthorized use of the Coca-Cola brand, the owner of that brand will want a (very large, maybe 100%) piece of it. I guarantee that if one megalomanic douchebag like Kanye West can send lawyers after $COYE (COINYE), Coca-Cola will bring their lawyers knocking on your door. Thus far, it seems you have probably thought this through and have decided you're OK with risking legal retribution.

If however you haven't considered the fact that you're putting your personal peace of mind and finances on the line, and potentially setting yourself up as a martyr for your art, please do so, as financial might makes legal right in the USA, and companies like Coca-Cola pre-hire an army of lawyers to protect their brand from unauthorized use like you would be doing.

I and other investors will be hard for Coca-Cola's lawyers to track through the blockchain; you will be a much easier target for them.

Actually as an artist I am making money in the movie industry  working as a scenic artist. (and Im good at it) https://productionbeast.com/288775-nili-lerner  Also,  I could do better in the crypto world trading with other's coins. But after spending the last three years mostly fighting wall street power to make the world a better place, I figured out the best strategies by using my art to illustrate it.  I do believe that an interdependent cryptocurrencies economy will create a competitive credit market which will give back the power to  the 99%.
In did as I stated, I  hope to make some money from NILI coin's sell, but as I said, this money I raise in order to fund the development of a rode map for this project's grand vision:
 
 The grand vision of NILIcoins is to supply industries and communities with tools to capitalize directly on their commercial  power, and then utilize coin independence and versatility to initiate the construction of a competitive credit industry.
The first step is to provide customized and ready to use coin packages which are fitted with all necessary components to facilitate a seamless multi-coin clearance. Then to see through the creation of  a platform on which these coins can be lend as credit to the public. The NILIcoins project itself was conceived as a result of the need to illustrate this concept in real terms as well as to fund  the creation of a road map for the funding and development of these platforms.

 TRUST

I like to address the issue of trust here. from a few angles:
 
 REPUTATION: Before deciding to invest in NILI coin you need to find out what is the art which this coin  buy.
                      You also need to know that the art is in my possession and that Im real and honest person.
                      For this I will supply a few references  of shows in which I have participated and of people who know me and got my art.
                      I will also direct you to public information about myself as a person. and some people in the crypto community who know me in person.

MOTIVATION: When you consider the option of a scam or quick profit, you need to consider the bigger picture. As an artist I spent much of my work efforts and talent in doing my art which was               
                      more  important for me than making money. By offering the public a share in my art I give my art a better chance to be seen and be interesting to that public. After all as an artist my         
                      main goal is to expose my art to people and make them interested in it. Of cures I would love to make a living doing my art but not as a crook, my integrity is even more important for me
                      then my art.
                      In the long  run,creating the coin as scam, will defeat all my goals both as an artist and as an activist who spent a lot of time trying to make the world a better place.
         
In other words : IM NOT AFTER YOUR MONEY, IM AFTER YOUR ATTENTION AND IF YOU GIVE ME YOUR ATTENTION YOU WILL GET YOUR MONEY WORTH.                        

Yes you get a share of it in a the form of a coin. and you can also obtain an art piece if you wish to do so using your coins. nevertheless,  Since the coin holders community are the owner of this art collection any work that is done to promote the art like shows in galleries and museums will benefit the entire community. also as a coin owner you will be getting dividends  on future art projects and future coin projects.

ah i see. so you don't actually get the art. you just get a "share" of it.  very interesting

NILI coin will be issued on Counterwallet  as a digital coin https://www.counterparty.co/. This means that you don't mine it. instead you will obtain it on the market using your Counterwallet. Then  If you wish to buy my art you will use these coins to pay for it. The only way to buy my art will be by using the NILI coin . The coins give an opportunity for people who wish to invest in art to do so without actually buying it but rather have a a share in it.

I like art and collect it sometimes.  If I can obtain some of your art mining your coin I will consider it.  Is that the basic idea here?

As an artist I want to capitalize directly on my talent and work. I want you and other investor to benefit from my need to bring in "a medium of exchange" so that I can pay my rent. If I use the Dollar I give that power to the state and more so to the banks who take advantage of us all.  when I create my coin or use a coin of my choice I claim that power back. The whole point of that project is to illustrate this concept and make it real.
My future coins like TOYOTA coin or COCA-COLA coin are going to be made in a way which illustrate  how  these industries should employ an altcoin.Iit will also be offered for sell  as art  I will explain it in details when we get there. Coca-Cola coin will be first to come out after the NILI coin issue event  which will take place in the end of October.