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Topic: [PRE-ANN][HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast - page 53. (Read 140040 times)

full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100

so you are saying he won't refund you the money?
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I'm allowed to resell my positions. But I understand why they do not want to change the rules of the game halfway tru the IPO, to allow and help me resell my shares. I think its fair that no refund is allowed, at least from their perspective.
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Thanks.  Glad we are on the same page.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Yo, I spoke to the guys over at MintPal. They should have Heavycoin on the voting board sometime tonight. https://www.mintpal.com/voting

thanks!  send us a link when it's up.  (PM me and also post to the forum.)
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100

confirmed: the "whale" has surfaced.  (Needs air I suppose.)

Important: A note to anyone considering purchasing from the whale.  The whale's funds will only be available after the launch.   We will not be doing the bookwork (nor genesis block changes) for whale's reselling.  Also, we cannot be responsible for his actions (ie. whether he turns out to be honest or not).  We are not saying he is dishonest--- we don't know.  As always, proceed with caution!


keccak512 can I ask that you look into allowing a resale of 10 BTC of my share?

Current IPO pot is at 57.40086441 BTC. If you allow me to resell, this means that the next 10 BTC added, will still leave the pot at the same value.

This will be beneficial to ALL investors involved. Not allowing me to do this, will look greedy on your part, IMO. Please advice.

+1 anyone?

This is equivalent to us allowing someone else to buy 10 BTC of your investment and then refunding you 10 BTC.  We cannot do this, as refunds are not permitted.  It doesn't matter if it's 10 BTC or 0.01 BTC.  Everyone must play by the same rules, regardless of their investment size.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Bayern
How big of a problem will these botnets be?
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
  • Premine: 1-2%

I am calling this deliberately misleading at this point, after days of people pointing this out the Devs seem only interested in acknowledging the positive voices in the room. They continue to ignore the threat of botnets.  They continue to ignore potential increased revenue via escrow.  Now they seem to be refusing a partial refund for their #1 investor through inaction.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 501
I think devs should allow bakedrice a refund. It's not going to end profitable for us IPO investors otherwise. Sad
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 250
keccak512 can I ask that you look into allowing a resale of 10 BTC of my share?

Current IPO pot is at 57.40086441 BTC. If you allow me to resell, this means that the next 10 BTC added, will still leave the pot at the same value.

This will be beneficial to ALL investors involved. Not allowing me to do this, will look greedy on your part, IMO. Please advice.

+1 anyone?

bakedrice, if people decide that they trust you enough then you will find those who would like to buy a share of your stake. Excuse me, I wouldn't do it. I would just invest in the IPO instead which makes sure coins are received just after the IPO is finished directly from the developers -- just as every other stakeholder.  Why not ask keccak512 for a refund of that 10 BTC?

For all of  us stakeholders, it definitely plays in our favor to buy from bakedrice, and not increase the pot further: this is not complicated to understand, and we should appreciate the offer from him, as this help our stakes proportion wise. From a fundraising perspective, this doesn't help and it is completely fair from the dev if they don't offer that option, or try not to encourage it. Note that the dev has been reasonable since beginning so far, and that they did not provide any information on the 20BTC funding even though it was hurting them. I respect that very much.
Personally, if I would not have bought my stake yet, I would have bought from bakedrice, as to put myself and everyone else in a better situation. Surely everyone is free and smart enough to judge for themselves.

Thanks. New investors please consider buying through me instead of adding to and inflating the total IPO pot. We are currently at 59 BTC and counting. The higher it goes, the less profitable it will be for all investors.

Read here:

BUYING INTO THE IPO??? DON'T DILUTE THE POT FURTHER!!

I have a 20 BTC stake in this IPO, and would like to sell off 10 BTC.

The IPO total value is already almost 50 BTC. I would like to sell some of my IPO stake to reduce my risk. I believe it is still profitable up to a 75 BTC IPO Pool, and don't wish to see it increase by much more than 50 BTC.

If you're interested to buy a stake from me, please send BTC to 1DnqRRd5rB2pudB7kfo6yRxcUaqjEjwMcP.

Or PM me for more details. No additional charges.

Please PM me or Reply here with transaction details or proof after you have sent your BTCs.

Accepting up to 10 BTC. All additional BTC received will be refunded.

See updated list: https://blockchain.info/address/1DnqRRd5rB2pudB7kfo6yRxcUaqjEjwMcP

WHY am I doing this?

Because when I first invested, I calculated that it'd be profitable as long as the pot remains under 75 to 100 Bitcoins. I personally believe that if the pot remains at 50 BTC, IPO holders have a chance to make 2x or more profits. If it reaches 75 BTC, we might see 1.5x profit. However, as we're now almost at 50, I want to reduce my risk by half, and hence selling 10 BTC worth of shares.

By doing so, another 10 BTC can be injected into the pool, and hence fairer distribution, without having to add more BTC value to the pot and diluting it further.
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
keccak512 can I ask that you look into allowing a resale of 10 BTC of my share?

Current IPO pot is at 57.40086441 BTC. If you allow me to resell, this means that the next 10 BTC added, will still leave the pot at the same value.

This will be beneficial to ALL investors involved. Not allowing me to do this, will look greedy on your part, IMO. Please advice.

+1 anyone?

bakedrice, if people decide that they trust you enough then you will find those who would like to buy a share of your stake. Excuse me, I wouldn't do it. I would just invest in the IPO instead which makes sure coins are received just after the IPO is finished directly from the developers -- just as every other stakeholder.  Why not ask keccak512 for a refund of that 10 BTC?

For all of  us stakeholders, it definitely plays in our favor to buy from bakedrice, and not increase the pot further: this is not complicated to understand, and we should appreciate the offer from him, as this help our stakes proportion wise. From a fundraising perspective, this doesn't help and it is completely fair from the dev if they don't offer that option, or try not to encourage it. Note that the dev has been reasonable since beginning so far, and that they did not provide any information on the 20BTC funding even though it was hurting them. I respect that very much.
Personally, if I would not have bought my stake yet, I would have bought from bakedrice, as to put myself and everyone else in a better situation. Surely everyone is free and smart enough to judge for themselves.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Bookmark one of the first HEAVYCOIN POOLS that will launch when the coin is available:

---> HeavycoinPOOL.com <---

Can't wait!
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Bayern

confirmed: the "whale" has surfaced.  (Needs air I suppose.)

Important: A note to anyone considering purchasing from the whale.  The whale's funds will only be available after the launch.   We will not be doing the bookwork (nor genesis block changes) for whale's reselling.  Also, we cannot be responsible for his actions (ie. whether he turns out to be honest or not).  We are not saying he is dishonest--- we don't know.  As always, proceed with caution!


keccak512 can I ask that you look into allowing a resale of 10 BTC of my share?

Current IPO pot is at 57.40086441 BTC. If you allow me to resell, this means that the next 10 BTC added, will still leave the pot at the same value.

This will be beneficial to ALL investors involved. Not allowing me to do this, will look greedy on your part, IMO. Please advice.

+1 anyone?

Why not just refund the 10 BTC?

That would be an option too. Devs?



I think that should be an option, it's not too hard to send 10 BTC to you yes?
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
Heavycoin Public Key:   0414cc5cbbd72cb37ff7a1d41b81fdd0e9414d143210c5d7e2c5940280f358e87d55277775c5aeb a39b0670a7d148f2d4bc0448c13133a000c54753a56da52332d
Bitcoin Transaction ID: 484200387c85bd3aded25fbe1dbc9ee30cd54d90c7ac9a2a9d60ba9228561c00
Amount sent 5 BTC

Confirmed.  Thanks for joining the IPO!
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
Heavycoin Public Key:   04b77e057b7bb7f905aa8501af55170645e4c96f26d1ca386d58a60d8b42b1db31237250e9b7ba5 ad3f191838aaf5aa21dd1aae0fd83813091d1d7867c7debc6f4
Bitcoin Transaction ID: 07a0c3bcefc74a4be86bb35ec1dfaa5467e2b53e1959590ecb5a337f18665e9c
Amount sent: 0.04 BTC

Confirmed. Thanks!
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
Hello,


Transaction ID :b28197ee7f317a7262e844fa63129ed18d0615ddb665e34cb3baa3c6de25865d
Amount Sent 4.0 BTC



Please confirm


Regards

Confirmed. Thank you for investing. We will PM you soon.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Heavycoin Public Key:   04b77e057b7bb7f905aa8501af55170645e4c96f26d1ca386d58a60d8b42b1db31237250e9b7ba5 ad3f191838aaf5aa21dd1aae0fd83813091d1d7867c7debc6f4
Bitcoin Transaction ID: 07a0c3bcefc74a4be86bb35ec1dfaa5467e2b53e1959590ecb5a337f18665e9c
Amount sent: 0.04 BTC
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 250

confirmed: the "whale" has surfaced.  (Needs air I suppose.)

Important: A note to anyone considering purchasing from the whale.  The whale's funds will only be available after the launch.   We will not be doing the bookwork (nor genesis block changes) for whale's reselling.  Also, we cannot be responsible for his actions (ie. whether he turns out to be honest or not).  We are not saying he is dishonest--- we don't know.  As always, proceed with caution!


keccak512 can I ask that you look into allowing a resale of 10 BTC of my share?

Current IPO pot is at 57.40086441 BTC. If you allow me to resell, this means that the next 10 BTC added, will still leave the pot at the same value.

This will be beneficial to ALL investors involved. Not allowing me to do this, will look greedy on your part, IMO. Please advice.

+1 anyone?

Why not just refund the 10 BTC?

That would be an option too. Devs?
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1014

confirmed: the "whale" has surfaced.  (Needs air I suppose.)

Important: A note to anyone considering purchasing from the whale.  The whale's funds will only be available after the launch.   We will not be doing the bookwork (nor genesis block changes) for whale's reselling.  Also, we cannot be responsible for his actions (ie. whether he turns out to be honest or not).  We are not saying he is dishonest--- we don't know.  As always, proceed with caution!


keccak512 can I ask that you look into allowing a resale of 10 BTC of my share?

Current IPO pot is at 57.40086441 BTC. If you allow me to resell, this means that the next 10 BTC added, will still leave the pot at the same value.

This will be beneficial to ALL investors involved. Not allowing me to do this, will look greedy on your part, IMO. Please advice.

+1 anyone?

Why not just refund the 10 BTC?
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Heavycoin Public Key: 04dfec09f1bec174a646e8782e52eb2a044f881023013ea4f25ad1f7c186a1a4c316be432488cff 230e565fcd3747173d62f680b29299a3c3bf62540a87e8fd785
Bitcoin Transaction ID: 1777c16886aa4e7f5a2a0d3aacbbc722a25d99de0cbd6aac794cb92d4e014a29
Amount sent: 0.1 BTC
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 568
BUYING INTO THE IPO??? DON'T DILUTE THE POT FURTHER!!

I have a 20 BTC stake in this IPO, and would like to sell off 10 BTC.

The IPO total value is already almost 50 BTC. I would like to sell some of my IPO stake to reduce my risk. I believe it is still profitable up to a 75 BTC IPO Pool, and don't wish to see it increase by much more than 50 BTC.

If you're interested to buy a stake from me, please send BTC to 1DnqRRd5rB2pudB7kfo6yRxcUaqjEjwMcP.

Or PM me for more details. No additional charges.

Please PM me or Reply here with transaction details or proof after you have sent your BTCs.

Accepting up to 10 BTC. All additional BTC received will be refunded.

See updated list: https://blockchain.info/address/1DnqRRd5rB2pudB7kfo6yRxcUaqjEjwMcP

WHY am I doing this?

Because when I first invested, I calculated that it'd be profitable as long as the pot remains under 75 to 100 Bitcoins. I personally believe that if the pot remains at 50 BTC, IPO holders have a chance to make 2x or more profits. If it reaches 75 BTC, we might see 1.5x profit. However, as we're now almost at 50, I want to reduce my risk by half, and hence selling 10 BTC worth of shares.

By doing so, another 10 BTC can be injected into the pool, and hence fairer distribution, without having to add more BTC value to the pot and diluting it further.

20BTC!   You are rich man and want to make yourself richer. Good luck.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Hello!

This coin sounds really cool and innovative Smiley

I would like to potentially claim the bounty for the Heavycoin's First Dedicated Forum I started. (I also run forum.max-coin.net and would really like to build a nice new Heavycoin community on the web, as I've done for Maxcoin).


My Public Key:
Code:
04e4bde7970181cf2369493c556d95869e1df4ad43e4fb3d369cc11d4a18a6db35a7a664e68e672bb3b8015a13cb8f427319e4ddbd8c7e25102fcf0f0e4de6925b

My Heavycoin Address:
Code:
HNYyVabzyH9GnL55CSUUzaS6sNX4z33QJt

Also - is there any info on how to set up a mining pool yet?
Considering I run pool.max-coin.net - I'd definitely like to jump start the HeavycoinPool.com as well Smiley

THANKS and Good Luck!
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