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Man City didn't disappoint and ran Luton over with a 5-1 win. Despite the season slowly coming to an end, City looks really fresh and they seem to have fun from just playing football. They're currently leading the table, probably only till tomorrow, but who knows.

Oh yes, Manchester City are one of the most hard-working clubs in this year's football season. They have worked hard in all the leagues they found themselves, including their EPL and UCL, to keep the club going. And one must say kudos to the manager, none other than the well-known Guardiola, who is putting his own expertise together again.

But at the same time, Manchester City does not need to give up. They have to play every match as if it was their qualifier. And they have no choice than to celebrate whoever wins. Not to celebrate the possession, the offsides, or free-kicks. But we need to look into the psychiatric results that come on in our...
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If Manchester United do away with Ten Hag and choose Graham Potter over Ten Hag, that means the performance of Manchester United will be as plant with a stunted growth, you can cross check the time Graham Potter is the coach of Chelsea,
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It's a step backwards if Potter comes back, there are many coaches better than Potter. For example, Xavi who will leave after the end of the season, or Tuchel who has experience in the EPL or Zidane who is quite good and does not have a job at the moment. At the moment Man United players are amazing, but they don't have a good mentality. Ten Hag has been unable to change that since he arrived. Merke needs an experienced, smart, disciplined coach, and of course able to improve the mentality of competing players.
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Manchester United have been inconsistent this season, and their performance have been really poor, (...)

This season is already lost for Man United. Instead of getting their act together and pushing themselves hard to fight for 4th or at least 5th place, they just dropped to 7th and might even drop to 8th if Chelsea wins their outstanding 2 games.
Ten Hag is almost definitely on his way out unless United fails to find a suitable replacement.


Man City didn't disappoint and ran Luton over with a 5-1 win. Despite the season slowly coming to an end, City looks really fresh and they seem to have fun from just playing football. They're currently leading the table, probably only till tomorrow, but who knows.
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The only "crazy" result from today is Newcastle nuking Tottenham to Kickstart the Gameweek  Grin. I didn't see the game so I'd have to see the highlights. Brentford won at home like I expected; however, I didn't place any bets except City because it was a high conviction bet. Title race is on, City will win, I expect Liverpool and Arsenal to win tomorrow as well. If both Liverpool and Arsenal fail to win tomorrow, I think it's safe to say that it's another City title win.
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Starting from Newcastle vs Tottenham was a lash on Tottenham and the more they are getting beaten the more they are losing there self esteem, and one of the things that is affecting them because conceding 2 goals before first half they already know there is a bad shape. And manchester city game was an expected finish and Luton Town was not a match for Manchester City so we already know that Manchester City is going to win. I don't understand Manchester united till now. They will play draw and from what happened tonight Arsenal still have serious hope among them.
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I spoke with my friend about this game. I know Bournemouth will give Manchester United a tough time in the game just like the way Brighton always make it difficult for Chelsea.
Manchester United have been inconsistent this season, and their performance have been really poor, I don’t expect anything special from Manchester United whenever they are playing, actually before the match I expected the match to be a difficult one for Manchester United, but I was still thinking they will be able to win the match, maybe with slight goal difference, but as we can see the outcome of the match, all they could get is just a draw which is really a bad one, Bournemouth is not a club which is suppose to be giving Manchester United difficult moment.
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Even though there are still several coaches who are better than Graham Potter, why is Manchester United targeting coaches who don't have good experience when coaching English clubs, because Graham Potter has coached Brighton and Chelsea, but these two clubs also performed poorly when they coached him. Manchester United should not think about replacing the role of Erik Ten Hag with Graham potter as manager of Manchester United, it is possible that Manchester United's performance will decline further and will experience a fate similar to that of Chelsea before. Indeed, if have not tried Manchester United management will not know what will happen to club and will definitely be curious about What would Graham Potter do if he coached Manchester United to replace Erik Ten Hag.

It is true that the strategy used by Erik Ten Hag was not very effective at Manchester United, but in my opinion it is better to retain Erik Ten Hag before finding a coach who is suitable for Manchester United rather than making decisions too hastily which will cause Manchester United's performance to decline further, it would be very sad if Manchester United's performance is getting worse and they will be increasingly left behind by city rivals Manchester City who are performing well in the Premier League because they have a great coach and potential players.
Manchester United have been quite poor this season and I understand the thoughts of them wanting to do away with ETH because of him not being able to perform and bring the club’s glory days back. The main issue now is the replacement for ETH, being Graham Potter. I think this will be one very big mistake by the board if they’re to go on with this thought.

 ⁠Graham Potter managerial record has been in no way close to that of ETH even with this poor form at Man United and now imagine Potter with this Man United team, I think things will rather get worse. Potter never did anything incredible at Chelsea or even Brighton and as such I wonder where the thoughts of the board signing him is coming from.

 At this point, the club is really lacking behind and need nothing short of a coach like Pep who will be able to build this falling United team to that standard of City. Man United are a big team in Engalnd and as such they need to be on top of the league or at least close to the top rather than struggling in mid table like they’re doing currently.

 The board needs to be cautious while trying to get a replacement for ETH because any bad replacement will still mean more woes for the fans and more bad name for the club in general. The club needs to get a coach who is tactically sound and better than ETH and not below ETH standard.
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The draw obtained by Manchester United is of course very detrimental to those who are competing to penetrate the Europa League zone this season, currently Manchester United ranking is still stuck in 7th position and even they are getting closer to being shifted by Westham who are ranked 8 at this time, I think Manchester United current position to be able to return to the top rank will be very difficult because they have to compete with Newcastle and Westham,  In addition, it is certainly not easy to chase a 10-point gap from Tottenham who are currently on the final limit of the Europa League zone.

Man United should have made good use of this match and brought 3 points to get ahead of Tottenham but that didn't happen. Sharing points is not enough because Man United has wasted many opportunities. Their poor form is becoming more apparent by the day and I hope United fans don't expect too much from this club. Bournemouth are better than Man United and in this match we can see that. The rhythm of the game does not reflect the Red Devils at all, Ten Hag's strategy is also monotonous, and the defense is full of loopholes. It would be a shame if results like this continued to be obtained. This season they are not worthy of securing Champions League tickets. Even the Europa League is not something they deserve. Man United is no longer a scary team for lower level teams.
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The second goal for Bournemouth's lead has just been scored. In my opinion, Kluivert's goal process lies in Dalot's negligence in guarding the Bournemouth players. If I were in charge like Erik, I wouldn't play Dalot because he's a defender but doesn't know how to defend. He was too busy helping attack so that when there was a counterattack, Dalot was left behind.

This means they are really bad in defense. If you don't believe it, please watch their ongoing match.
Hojlund was not given any wiggle room. The flow of the ball towards him was also quiet. A new coach also may not be able to change Manchester United if their game is still stiff.
UCL, to the European League is doubtful for them next season.
Regardless of who was at fault for the goal, but I think Manchester United's defense today was very bad, we can see how easily Bournemouth's attackers were able to get into the Manchester United penalty box, but fortunately Onana performance today was quite good because it could withstand some of Bournemouth's chances that actually had the potential to be goals in the game,  I think Onana, who usually performs quite badly, but today Manchester United fans deserve to say that he is Manchester United hero today.

The draw obtained by Manchester United is of course very detrimental to those who are competing to penetrate the Europa League zone this season, currently Manchester United ranking is still stuck in 7th position and even they are getting closer to being shifted by Westham who are ranked 8 at this time, I think Manchester United current position to be able to return to the top rank will be very difficult because they have to compete with Newcastle and Westham,  In addition, it is certainly not easy to chase a 10-point gap from Tottenham who are currently on the final limit of the Europa League zone.

I spoke with my friend about this game. I know Bournemouth will give Manchester United a tough time in the game just like the way Brighton always make it difficult for Chelsea. In my own opinion i see some set of clubs as nemesis to big clubs. Even if this big clubs found a way to win the game the match would be so hard for them. Actually, that's how football is supposed to be, one has to face his fear no matter what. That alone will help a team to be successful.

However, Manchester started the game with good momentum i wondered how they gave the possession to Bournemouth later on the game. For me, Ferndez has been the only serious person in the peach. Last match he scored their equalizing game and today he had played so well and scored for them. At least it all ended in a draw rather than losing at all.
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Have you seen the Newcastle - Tottenham game? Newcastle really demolished them by 4-0. Tottenham were so desperate. They were a little better in offense in the first half at least but this was also gone in the second half. Their defending was just too bad.  Sad  van de Ven couldn't defend the last man in the first two goals and Newcastle got ahead 2-0 very easy suddenly.
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That picture has full explained why totenham was losing with numerous goals aaginst totenham. Look at the defensive line, they are all going upfront and this is the main weakness of totenham. Many critics have been going toward ange but he does not even care to it. It was quite strange to see how totenham was playing so garbage in this match.
Ange needs to re think about use the same strategy for the upcoming game. It was a newcastle that can't be pressured like that. I think that many team fully understood about the main weakness from totenahm.
I will call ange as a dumb coach if he will implement the same strategy for the upcoming match.

We couldn't see a recovering Tottenham later on. While they are in critical weeks they shouldn't play this horrible. They are fighing for a Champions League spot against Aston Villa. They will hope for Arsenal to beat them tomorrow. Tottenham still have a missing game though but it is in their hands to make it an advantage for themselves.
Totenham is just getting even worse since ange was always using the same strategy anytime. He can't even force his club to follow his order caused by it was also risking totenham's position right now. Losing against newcastle is a bad result.
Well, the simple thing is that they had all their lines advanced, perhaps the strategies they had Planned would be to go and play with everything they had, it was to look for everything or do nothing, so in this order of ideas perhaps you will defend them. They didn't know how to do the offside strategy very well, of course what Tottenham lost is Something very difficult, because it was a rout, we must also give credit to Newcastle because they did very well because Tottenham can do many Bad things , but if the other team is not good and would not have taken advantage of doing things that way , then in this order of things it could be said that Newcastle took Advantage of the bad moment, and that can be seen as a good thing.

Newcastle have a top youngster who shone against Spurs alongside Anthony Gordon



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However, Newcastle will now surely fancy their chances of making a late charge for a Europa League berth after hammering Spurs.

The Magpies opened the scoring on 30 minutes through Alexander Isak, who latched on to Anthony Gordon’s pass, cut inside and fired low into the Tottenham net.

Source: https://tbrfootball.com/newcastle-have-a-top-youngster-who-shone-against-spurs-alongside-anthony-gordon/

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Even if Manchester United has plans of sacking him, they can't introduce a failed manager like Graham Potter as replacement for Erik Ten Hag. That would be ridiculous!

It actually would be ridiculous if Man United decides to do away with Ten Hag and goes ahead and selects Graham Potter to be his replacement. I wouldn’t exactly call him a failed manager although his time at Chelsea haven’t been rosy either.
He definitely wouldn’t be a good pick in my opinion. He would probably be more clueless and probably struggle a great deal more than Ten Hag has. His services as a manager would not be able to give Man United a much needed face lift.
If Manchester United do away with Ten Hag and choose Graham Potter over Ten Hag, that means the performance of Manchester United will be as plant with a stunted growth, you can cross check the time Graham Potter is the coach of Chelsea, was it be able to change the situation of Chelsea, the answer is no, for me Gram Potter needs more training towards coaching institute because all the time he stays in Chelsea their was nothing positive in that particular club, so if Manchester United want to be going low in every of their matches they should go ahead and choose Graham Potter over Ten Hag
Sometimes I wonder how news or rumours fly. Was there link to the claim that Manchester United is interested in Graham Potter? Someone might just wake up and in the quest to complete their post count will arise one baseless claim and people will begin to debate about it.

Every coach has their silly days and in those days you will even understand that ordinary you can make better decisions than the coach. If Manchester United management provides ETH with quality players, he will be able to improve the overall club performance. But if they want to fire him, Potter shouldn't be an option for replacement.

What are you even saying? If you've been very active you wouldn't be typing all of these BS here. Are you also too lazy to utilize your search engines and google lol
Before the Fa Cup Competition against Liverpool Erik Ten Hag was heavily blamed for the woes of Manchester United team, that which I'd never agree with. It led to club legends like Roy Keane, Gary Neville and Owen all saying crazy stuff's about the Manchester United Team. Even Sky sports carried news like this and you're here blabbing.

Both Gareth Southgate and Graham Potter as we saw are the names mentioned to replace Erik Ten Hag but we had some levels of confusion and doubts.
These names mentioned are not capable to handle a big club like Manchester United.
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The second goal for Bournemouth's lead has just been scored. In my opinion, Kluivert's goal process lies in Dalot's negligence in guarding the Bournemouth players. If I were in charge like Erik, I wouldn't play Dalot because he's a defender but doesn't know how to defend. He was too busy helping attack so that when there was a counterattack, Dalot was left behind.

This means they are really bad in defense. If you don't believe it, please watch their ongoing match.
Hojlund was not given any wiggle room. The flow of the ball towards him was also quiet. A new coach also may not be able to change Manchester United if their game is still stiff.
UCL, to the European League is doubtful for them next season.
Regardless of who was at fault for the goal, but I think Manchester United's defense today was very bad, we can see how easily Bournemouth's attackers were able to get into the Manchester United penalty box, but fortunately Onana performance today was quite good because it could withstand some of Bournemouth's chances that actually had the potential to be goals in the game,  I think Onana, who usually performs quite badly, but today Manchester United fans deserve to say that he is Manchester United hero today.

The draw obtained by Manchester United is of course very detrimental to those who are competing to penetrate the Europa League zone this season, currently Manchester United ranking is still stuck in 7th position and even they are getting closer to being shifted by Westham who are ranked 8 at this time, I think Manchester United current position to be able to return to the top rank will be very difficult because they have to compete with Newcastle and Westham,  In addition, it is certainly not easy to chase a 10-point gap from Tottenham who are currently on the final limit of the Europa League zone.
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Tottenham are just lost you know... They have lost their way even though they made a great start with Ange Postecoglou to the season first. They just can't keep a consistent season for years in fact.

This isn't about Harry Kane's departure or something like that. Kane was doing his best for them by scoring so many goals. The main issue is that they haven't been able to learn to play as a team consistently.

There is a big hole in their defense this season also and you can't defend a dangerous team like Newcastle in this way.  Sad  I think Emery has more chance to get 4th place with Aston Villa at the end of the season. I definitely like Aston Villa's game more than Tottenham generally.
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Premier League referees with their selfish interest will find a way to abuse it because we have seen so many cases where the premier league referees do make errors while playing in the game and apologize after the match , but the technology works for the betterment of officiating the premier league matches.

Yes, these have even been errors that changed the direction of many matches. A goal that wasn't given to Luis Diaz vs Tottenham, a very obvious penalty which wasn't given to Liverpool vs Manchester City and many more...

I assume we are going to start AI taking over in matches instead of human referees at a point. It is difficult to predict when but I believe that it will happen. For now we have technology in football just for aiding referees. But in the future AI can decrease the error probability to even 0. If we come back to the main topic I hope that the semi-automated offside technology can really decrease the number of errors much more.  Roll Eyes
The introduction of so many technologies in the game of football to ease the job of the referees and as well reduce the obvious errors in the game of football is without doubt a very good development. However, I think it's affected the excitement of the game because before their introduction, football was more dramatic and was filled with so many controversial moments. If they continue to introduce more technological measures in the game, we'll get to a point whereby the referees will not have much power to make vital decisions during games. The technological innovations are truly helpful but it's killing the fun of the game of football
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Have you seen the Newcastle - Tottenham game? Newcastle really demolished them by 4-0. Tottenham were so desperate. They were a little better in offense in the first half at least but this was also gone in the second half. Their defending was just too bad.  Sad  van de Ven couldn't defend the last man in the first two goals and Newcastle got ahead 2-0 very easy suddenly.
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That picture has full explained why totenham was losing with numerous goals aaginst totenham. Look at the defensive line, they are all going upfront and this is the main weakness of totenham. Many critics have been going toward ange but he does not even care to it. It was quite strange to see how totenham was playing so garbage in this match.
Ange needs to re think about use the same strategy for the upcoming game. It was a newcastle that can't be pressured like that. I think that many team fully understood about the main weakness from totenahm.
I will call ange as a dumb coach if he will implement the same strategy for the upcoming match.

We couldn't see a recovering Tottenham later on. While they are in critical weeks they shouldn't play this horrible. They are fighing for a Champions League spot against Aston Villa. They will hope for Arsenal to beat them tomorrow. Tottenham still have a missing game though but it is in their hands to make it an advantage for themselves.
Totenham is just getting even worse since ange was always using the same strategy anytime. He can't even force his club to follow his order caused by it was also risking totenham's position right now. Losing against newcastle is a bad result.
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I believe that Arsenal still looks strong so maybe it won't be like other years, maybe they won't start to get worse. Doesn't mean that they are going to win everything, they could still end up with a loss, we should just consider that Arsenal has stayed longer than last time and seems to be going strong, didn't lose any games in a while as well.

I think this could very well be their season. Of course they could fail too, there is no shame in that, they have two very big competition and both Liverpool and City will do their best to win it as well, doesn't mean that whoever loses ends up being bad. People do not remember the second place, or how you got the champions title, they remember who won it, so only thing matters is the end.
Well, if you check out now you will see that Man City is topping the premier league table with 2 points, I think by this time tomorrow if arsenal or Liverpool win their match is going to be one of them on top of premier league table, but arsenal against Aston villa is going to be a though one why Liverpool against crystal palace is also going to be a though game but I strongly believe that at end, Liverpool is going to won crystal palace.
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I believe that Arsenal still looks strong so maybe it won't be like other years, maybe they won't start to get worse. Doesn't mean that they are going to win everything, they could still end up with a loss, we should just consider that Arsenal has stayed longer than last time and seems to be going strong, didn't lose any games in a while as well.

I think this could very well be their season. Of course they could fail too, there is no shame in that, they have two very big competition and both Liverpool and City will do their best to win it as well, doesn't mean that whoever loses ends up being bad. People do not remember the second place, or how you got the champions title, they remember who won it, so only thing matters is the end.

Arsenal's performance this season is indeed very extraordinary and even they can be a strong candidate to win the Premier League this season, but still I doubt their consistency can last until the end of the season, because I see last season consistency make the cause of Arsenal failing to win is because their consistency began to be disrupted towards the end of the season and as a result they could only win the runner up position last season,  It's not just last season but consistency is actually Arsenal's disease, even if we look back of course we can see how Arsenal continue to fail due to their performance ups and downs, and hopefully this season we won't see Arsenal's illness recur this season and make them extend the title drought.

What you are saying is very true, for now Arsenal can be top of the table but the question now is whether they can last long?
Tomorrow's game will be a test for Arsenal, because currently Aston Villa has a pretty good performance, so it might be a stumbling block for Arsenal in maintaining the top of the table this week.
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I believe that Arsenal still looks strong so maybe it won't be like other years, maybe they won't start to get worse. Doesn't mean that they are going to win everything, they could still end up with a loss, we should just consider that Arsenal has stayed longer than last time and seems to be going strong, didn't lose any games in a while as well.

I think this could very well be their season. Of course they could fail too, there is no shame in that, they have two very big competition and both Liverpool and City will do their best to win it as well, doesn't mean that whoever loses ends up being bad. People do not remember the second place, or how you got the champions title, they remember who won it, so only thing matters is the end.
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I don't think the present crops of players Manchester United has are that bad that there should be a need for an overhaul of the current squad. What they need is just a little re-enforcement at the back and a proven striker upfront to compete with Hojllund, United should be firing on full cylinder. Also, they need a new coach, even if United makes some re-enforcement next season, I don't think ETH can make a difference. His job is currently hanging on the balance and not giving United CL football may cost him his job.
The second goal for Bournemouth's lead has just been scored. In my opinion, Kluivert's goal process lies in Dalot's negligence in guarding the Bournemouth players. If I were in charge like Erik, I wouldn't play Dalot because he's a defender but doesn't know how to defend. He was too busy helping attack so that when there was a counterattack, Dalot was left behind.

This means they are really bad in defense. If you don't believe it, please watch their ongoing match.
Hojlund was not given any wiggle room. The flow of the ball towards him was also quiet. A new coach also may not be able to change Manchester United if their game is still stiff.
UCL, to the European League is doubtful for them next season.
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Even if Manchester United has plans of sacking him, they can't introduce a failed manager like Graham Potter as replacement for Erik Ten Hag. That would be ridiculous!

It actually would be ridiculous if Man United decides to do away with Ten Hag and goes ahead and selects Graham Potter to be his replacement. I wouldn’t exactly call him a failed manager although his time at Chelsea haven’t been rosy either.
He definitely wouldn’t be a good pick in my opinion. He would probably be more clueless and probably struggle a great deal more than Ten Hag has. His services as a manager would not be able to give Man United a much needed face lift.
If Manchester United do away with Ten Hag and choose Graham Potter over Ten Hag, that means the performance of Manchester United will be as plant with a stunted growth, you can cross check the time Graham Potter is the coach of Chelsea, was it be able to change the situation of Chelsea, the answer is no, for me Gram Potter needs more training towards coaching institute because all the time he stays in Chelsea their was nothing positive in that particular club, so if Manchester United want to be going low in every of their matches they should go ahead and choose Graham Potter over Ten Hag
Sometimes I wonder how news or rumours fly. Was there link to the claim that Manchester United is interested in Graham Potter? Someone might just wake up and in the quest to complete their post count will arise one baseless claim and people will begin to debate about it.

Every coach has their silly days and in those days you will even understand that ordinary you can make better decisions than the coach. If Manchester United management provides ETH with quality players, he will be able to improve the overall club performance. But if they want to fire him, Potter shouldn't be an option for replacement.
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