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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 03, 2023, 09:52:50 PM

Quote from: asriloni on November 03, 2023, 01:57:10 AM

These clubs will be absent from UCL caused by we were almost entering at the middle of season but chelsea and MU are still stuck int he same place at this moment. Losing 3-0 against newcastle is a shame for manchester united.

I think it's normal for United to lose to Newcastle. United is no longer the Manchester it used to be. So there is no shame if in the future United will lose to a mid-table club. Some of my friends who are United fans are also used to the defeats experienced by United. So basically saying Chelsea and United have no chance of qualifying for the UCL next season, I think that's exactly what a lot of people are thinking at the moment. And they were not surprised by the poor results experienced by both teams.

Manchester United's performance has been so poor that no matter how weak Manchester United's opponents are, we still have to wonder if Manchester United will drop points against their easy opponents. In the past we have seen Manchester United compete hard against the big clubs and they have performed well against the big clubs but now their performance is poor against the smaller teams. Newcastle have improved their performance last season and this season and they have been performing very well recently so it was no surprise that Manchester United lost against Newcastle. Newcastle gave a great performance against Manchester United so they deserved the win.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 03, 2023, 09:52:50 PM

Quote from: asriloni on November 03, 2023, 01:57:10 AM

These clubs will be absent from UCL caused by we were almost entering at the middle of season but chelsea and MU are still stuck int he same place at this moment. Losing 3-0 against newcastle is a shame for manchester united.

I think it's normal for United to lose to Newcastle. United is no longer the Manchester it used to be. So there is no shame if in the future United will lose to a mid-table club. Some of my friends who are United fans are also used to the defeats experienced by United. So basically saying Chelsea and United have no chance of qualifying for the UCL next season, I think that's exactly what a lot of people are thinking at the moment. And they were not surprised by the poor results experienced by both teams.

Among Chelsea and Manchester united,the team that I see that they will improve with time is Chelsea,United have alot of big boys who don't want to learn,they assume they know everything,and there is nothing the coach has to teach them again.United spent huge money on some players like Anthony,but they all turned out to be flops in the premier league.At this stage,they need a new coach that will transform the team and make them better than the way they are now.Ten Hag is a stubborn coach,and won't listen to what people tell him,If he was to listen to Man U legends,he would have changed his tactics and bench some players that he constantly uses.All he needs to do is to change pattern and tactics to be able to win games.

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There are many tough games coming up today, Fulham vs Arsenal which is going to be a tough game in the home of Fulham because Arsenal will not leave their home without going with victory that will make people to agree with Arsenal fans that this is no longer Arsenal they knew last two season where many teams where using Arsenal as an advantage to achieve victory like the way they are using Chelsea as an advantage to improve their points. There is no way this game will going to end up 1:1 because Arsenal is well organized to secure 2 goals in this game to drag first position from Tottenham Hotspur.

Newcastle vs Manchester united will be another tough game that will cut many people tickets today because, Manchester united will perform some miracle in this game that will give them the opportunity to secure 2 goals to beat Newcastle and to make some people to like Erik Ten Hag to continue his good work.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 02, 2023, 11:28:38 PM

There are many things that ask me why every striker at Chelsea has such a bad performance. I don't understand Nkunku because he has been injured for a long time. Currently, Chelsea has only scored 13 goals and none of their strikers are among the top scorers. Is this because of Chelsea's playing tactics or the difference in the level of competition in the English league? But apparently not. Is this purely the striker's fault for not having good finishing or is it the lack of forward ball distribution from Chelsea's current midfielders?

I can't just explain what is wrong with Nicolas Jackson because he has had such a poor season. He is a young striker that we expected much from and he has been given so many opportunities by coach Mauricio Pochettino but he has just managed to score five goals in all competition. Maybe Christopher Nkunku will be the solution to the attacking problems of the Blues. The French attacker might return to action before the the begining of 2024 and he could be the boast Chelsea needs. The club has created more chances and have been failing to utilize them, which shows that there is no effective goal scorer. An example is their last game against Blackburn Rovers when they had twenty two shots, seven were on target and it produced just two goals. What a waste!!!!

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 03, 2023, 09:52:50 PM

Quote from: asriloni on November 03, 2023, 01:57:10 AM

These clubs will be absent from UCL caused by we were almost entering at the middle of season but chelsea and MU are still stuck int he same place at this moment. Losing 3-0 against newcastle is a shame for manchester united.

I think it's normal for United to lose to Newcastle. United is no longer the Manchester it used to be. So there is no shame if in the future United will lose to a mid-table club. Some of my friends who are United fans are also used to the defeats experienced by United. So basically saying Chelsea and United have no chance of qualifying for the UCL next season, I think that's exactly what a lot of people are thinking at the moment. And they were not surprised by the poor results experienced by both teams.

If we look at the current performance of the two teams, it is indeed quite logical that many people predict that Man United and Chelsea will not be able to qualify for the UCL, but this season's journey is still very long so it is possible for Man United and Chelsea to develop and catch up.
And if you look at the player material that these two teams have, they are actually very good, they just need a process to get back up.

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Quote from: asriloni on November 03, 2023, 01:57:10 AM

These clubs will be absent from UCL caused by we were almost entering at the middle of season but chelsea and MU are still stuck int he same place at this moment. Losing 3-0 against newcastle is a shame for manchester united.

I think it's normal for United to lose to Newcastle. United is no longer the Manchester it used to be. So there is no shame if in the future United will lose to a mid-table club. Some of my friends who are United fans are also used to the defeats experienced by United. So basically saying Chelsea and United have no chance of qualifying for the UCL next season, I think that's exactly what a lot of people are thinking at the moment. And they were not surprised by the poor results experienced by both teams.

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Im feel that if manchester united and chelsea will be battling for the relegation zone. Manchester united had been suffering the same problem as chelsea. These clubs were facing crisis on their mentality to face another club. Manchester united has been suffering lose streaks which have become the worst achievement since a long time ago. Chelsea is also in the same situation at this moment. Im losing my hope for these clubs to enter into the top 5 this season. Manchester united and chelsea needs to work even harder than before to make sure everything is fine for the club till the end of season. The mentality crisis has been also impacting the fans from these clubs as well. They were yelling how disappointed the performance from their favorite clubs.

My first time to see manchester united and chelsea were doing shit at the same time. This could be a signal if manchester united and chelsea will not be playing in UCL next season.
These clubs will be absent from UCL caused by we were almost entering at the middle of season but chelsea and MU are still stuck int he same place at this moment. Losing 3-0 against newcastle is a shame for manchester united.

Antony was playing so garbage.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on November 02, 2023, 11:48:08 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 30, 2023, 02:15:56 PM

I really don't understand what is going on with Chelsea. Whoever they bring to the squad as a striker they just start playing much worse. It was the situation for Timo Werner considering his performance at Leipzig for example. Now it is the same for Nicolas Jackson. He was quite good and promising while he was playing for Villarreal.

But now this guy can't even finish absolute goal chances. Sad

I don't know how long this will go on. Hopefully it comes to an end by Nkunku's return.

If Chelsea manage to improve their finishing side with the help of Nkunku then I would be hopeful about them to get wins more often.

One fundamental mistake made by Chelsea and Abramovich is their habit of quickly changing coaches since 2003. Yes, I see this as a serious issue where every change adds to the instability we see at Chelsea today. In the past, Chelsea used to be able to compete against top teams despite frequent changes in coaching staff, but that's no longer the case. Up to now, since 2003 (20 years have passed), Chelsea has changed coaches a total of 17 times.

To me, this isn't a good practice for a top team. Changing coaches too frequently due to initial poor performance is a very bad choice. Abramovich's decisions consistently stir up both praise and criticism. It might work well in the short term, but it's detrimental in the long run.

No matter how good the striker is, if the overall team conditions are not good, it won't improve the performance.

Those changes were beneficial for the fans and for thr club finally. The worst seasons for Abrahimovich is better than worst of Todd Boehly who has struggled to keep the club going smoothly.
And Chelsea struggling in a season like this after not qualifying for the Champions league .
Fhelseneeds good striker's and not the players who are with the club..
It will take some time to see Chelsea dangerous like they was seasons back. If this was talked about Potter he deserves to be sacked.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on November 02, 2023, 11:48:08 PM

One fundamental mistake made by Chelsea and Abramovich is their habit of quickly changing coaches since 2003. Yes, I see this as a serious issue where every change adds to the instability we see at Chelsea today. In the past, Chelsea used to be able to compete against top teams despite frequent changes in coaching staff, but that's no longer the case. Up to now, since 2003 (20 years have passed), Chelsea has changed coaches a total of 17 times.

To me, this isn't a good practice for a top team. Changing coaches too frequently due to initial poor performance is a very bad choice. Abramovich's decisions consistently stir up both praise and criticism. It might work well in the short term, but it's detrimental in the long run.

No matter how good the striker is, if the overall team conditions are not good, it won't improve the performance.

Chelsea's former owner, Roman Abramovich, was one of the most stern figures at Stamford Bridge, never compromising in executing his duties and ensuring his squad is harmonious and ready to meet the ambitious targets set for each campaign. Abramovich understood what was at stake and wanted to avoid jeopardizing his investment, which is why he fired and immediately appointed new managers to replace the old ones. However, in today's trend, these new owners refrain from rushing into action, but rather allow a predetermined amount of time to a manager who is producing terrible results for the team before dismissing. Another reason we're witnessing the Blues' performance decline in today's games.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 30, 2023, 02:15:56 PM

I really don't understand what is going on with Chelsea. Whoever they bring to the squad as a striker they just start playing much worse. It was the situation for Timo Werner considering his performance at Leipzig for example. Now it is the same for Nicolas Jackson. He was quite good and promising while he was playing for Villarreal.

But now this guy can't even finish absolute goal chances. Sad

I don't know how long this will go on. Hopefully it comes to an end by Nkunku's return.

If Chelsea manage to improve their finishing side with the help of Nkunku then I would be hopeful about them to get wins more often.

One fundamental mistake made by Chelsea and Abramovich is their habit of quickly changing coaches since 2003. Yes, I see this as a serious issue where every change adds to the instability we see at Chelsea today. In the past, Chelsea used to be able to compete against top teams despite frequent changes in coaching staff, but that's no longer the case. Up to now, since 2003 (20 years have passed), Chelsea has changed coaches a total of 17 times.

To me, this isn't a good practice for a top team. Changing coaches too frequently due to initial poor performance is a very bad choice. Abramovich's decisions consistently stir up both praise and criticism. It might work well in the short term, but it's detrimental in the long run.

No matter how good the striker is, if the overall team conditions are not good, it won't improve the performance.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 30, 2023, 02:15:56 PM

I really don't understand what is going on with Chelsea. Whoever they bring to the squad as a striker they just start playing much worse. It was the situation for Timo Werner considering his performance at Leipzig for example. Now it is the same for Nicolas Jackson. He was quite good and promising while he was playing for Villarreal.

There are many things that ask me why every striker at Chelsea has such a bad performance. I don't understand Nkunku because he has been injured for a long time. Currently, Chelsea has only scored 13 goals and none of their strikers are among the top scorers. Is this because of Chelsea's playing tactics or the difference in the level of competition in the English league? But apparently not. Is this purely the striker's fault for not having good finishing or is it the lack of forward ball distribution from Chelsea's current midfielders?

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I really don't understand what is going on with Chelsea. Whoever they bring to the squad as a striker they just start playing much worse. It was the situation for Timo Werner considering his performance at Leipzig for example. Now it is the same for Nicolas Jackson. He was quite good and promising while he was playing for Villarreal.

But now this guy can't even finish absolute goal chances. Sad

I don't know how long this will go on. Hopefully it comes to an end by Nkunku's return.

If Chelsea manage to improve their finishing side with the help of Nkunku then I would be hopeful about them to get wins more often.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 29, 2023, 05:05:51 AM

I don't want to blame all of that on Robert Sanchez but he has also been just quite bad so far. Sad

I remember only a couple of matches in which he was really good. He was terrible against Arsenal and I can't say anything good for the match against Brentford either. I wish Chelsea spent some amount of money on a better goalkeeper instead of bringing Jackson and Sanchez.

Jackson has already a permanent striker of chelsea. Chelsea has other striker in the club like broja but i don't even understand why this shitty coach was keeping using garbage jackson. I would even prefer to see sterling as a striker instead of him. Chelsea has been planned to get maignan from acmilan while there is also a rumor said that if chelsea has been putting some names in the list of strikers to be bought by the club. I hope that chelsea will not even try to get shitty young striker again with no experience like jackson?
Next drogba? that's bullshit man. This guy was obviously crap as a striker.

Quote from: Distraction on October 29, 2023, 05:05:51 AM

Kepa is playing for Real Madrid on loan and Mendy has also left. I hope they focus on that situation too in January if possible. While they aren't comfortable with scoring goals they should at least be able to keep a clean sheet as much as possible.

Madrid has been also trying to make kepa as its permanent goal keeper. I think that chelsea will get an offer from real madrid during the winter transfer season. I expect kepa to stay in the real madrid much longer instead of going back again to the chelsea.
Kepa's dream to play in real madrid has become a reality. Madrid is always taking chelsea's goal keeper. This is the reason why kepa will not back again.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on October 25, 2023, 04:46:57 AM

Quote from: makishart on October 24, 2023, 05:32:23 AM

I must be honest if emery is far better than pochettino in this case. He was able building a great club with limited budget unlike chelsea's coach which has spent billions for nothing.

I am also disappointed with the results obtained by Chelsea. Maybe the Chelsea scouting team thought that Pocchettino had experience coaching big clubs and that was what made them trust him. This is the fault of the Chelsea scouting team because I think they don't really do their job well.

I believe almost everyone will be disappointed with the outcome of Chelsea's outcome in yesterday's match especially their fans. Although I wasn't chance to watch the match but I believe Chelsea should win Brentford no matter what. It's just like a dream when I saw that Chelsea was even unable to score a goal.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 28, 2023, 04:53:15 AM

Pochettino defended him and considered a player's mistake to be a collective mistake, not an individual one, and that is quite understandable because he will definitely try to maintain the mentality of his players, especially as Sanchez is his choice and is currently Chelsea's main goalkeeper. Chelsea just needs consistency to maintain a performance like the previous 3 matches which raised the hopes of their fans that they are indeed starting to improve.

In Chelsea match against Brentford, in my opinion, only Palmer played really well. He even created many whistles but unfortunately they couldn't be put to good use. Seeing the defeat they experienced made Chelsea hopes buried because after several matches played, many thought that the Blues had found their ideal game. Pochettino must think again about ways to gain public trust, especially Chelsea fans. The long journey in the Premier League will drain the players' energy, while in terms of quality Pochettino does not have many options to choose from.

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I don't want to blame all of that on Robert Sanchez but he has also been just quite bad so far. Sad

I remember only a couple of matches in which he was really good. He was terrible against Arsenal and I can't say anything good for the match against Brentford either. I wish Chelsea spent some amount of money on a better goalkeeper instead of bringing Jackson and Sanchez.

Kepa is playing for Real Madrid on loan and Mendy has also left. I hope they focus on that situation too in January if possible. While they aren't comfortable with scoring goals they should at least be able to keep a clean sheet as much as possible.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 25, 2023, 01:56:10 PM

To tell the truth I started to get my hopes higher than before when it comes to Chelsea's future in the season. Because I have been really satisfied with what I watched in the previous a few matches. They got 2 decent wins first and they were almost beating Arsenal in Stamford Bridge right after that. If it weren't for especially Robert Sanchez's individual mistakes Chelsea could have absolutely won that match.

After all the things I have seen in those matches I decided to give Chelsea a chance against Brentford in my parlay. I'm planning to add their win @1.63. I hope I don't get regretful for this. Roll Eyes

Pochettino defended him and considered a player's mistake to be a collective mistake, not an individual one, and that is quite understandable because he will definitely try to maintain the mentality of his players, especially as Sanchez is his choice and is currently Chelsea's main goalkeeper. Chelsea just needs consistency to maintain a performance like the previous 3 matches which raised the hopes of their fans that they are indeed starting to improve.
However, including Chelsea's match against Brentford later in the parlay still doesn't seem to be the right choice, because of what Chelsea has shown just in the last 3 matches, I think that until the middle of the season Chelsea continues to appear impressive it will be the right choice to choose to bet on their match, including it in the parlay.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 27, 2023, 11:26:11 AM

From statistical data from past matches, Tottenham has a bigger advantage to be able to beat Crystal Palace, while Tottenham current performance is really in a very strong condition to maintain its current position even though everyone says it will be very difficult, but Tottenham could make new history.
But what makes me confused is that some people say that Crystal Palace match with Tottenham will end in a draw, whereas in terms of player performance, Tottenham is superior and I still can't be sure where I will bet.

In the end Tottenham managed to beat Crystal Palace with a score of 2:1 and Tottenham was 2 goals ahead in the first and second half, I thought the scored would end 2:0 without reply but it turned out that Crystal Palace was able to score 1 goals in the final minutes before the matchs was over.

Tottenham are still unbeaten this season and their defense is even much stronger than before. In my opinion, a strong rival to wins the premier league this season is Tottenham because they only focus on matches in the premier league. I thinks Tottenham still has enough extra energy to continue competing in won the title this season because Tottenham current competitors (Arsenal and Manchester City) are trying hard to appear strong in 2 big matches.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 26, 2023, 06:56:53 PM

Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

I am surprised no one is blaming Enzo for contributing some percentage that gifted Rice the goal. It is clear and understandable that the flaw was from Sanchez for given wrong pass and I also blame Enzo for not contesting the ball at all, knowing too well that the ball was going to the direction of his goal post. If you watch the replay again, you will discover that Enzo actually doged the ball. Was he trying to avoid a deflection or what?

I wasn't really happy how Chelsea didn't win that match and on the second thought I wasn't much bothered because Arsenal doesn't need to drop much points if they are to chase Manchester city in this season.

If given the opportunity, I would like to openly express my dissatisfaction with Enzo's performance, particularly in regards to his ability to execute long or accurate shots. While he excels in controlling the midfield, Enzo lacks the instinct required to properly execute a shot. So many times he has got good chance but he was always missing it. The first goal by arsenal was caused by enzo's fault too caused by his response was too slow. Chelsea needs to fix these problems. Enzo needs also to take a serious training for the long shoots.
It seems like that this guy neved has a good long shoot. Chelsea doesn't ahve someone who can shooting from long range properly like when lampard was in chelsea. That's the main problam faced by chelsea.
The long range shooters will always give opportunity scoring goals even when the player was from out of the box. Enzo needs also to be even more careful when there was its opponent try to intercept him.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 27, 2023, 05:18:24 AM

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How has Eze been important? This is funny for a player that has just scored one goal this season. That goal must be very important then.
From defenders to midfielder's and attackers, Tottenham Hotspur deserves all of this win.

Eze's performance was quite impressive at the beginning of the season. Now I believe he is playing average. Even if he doesn't score many goals he can contribute nicely in other ways and I guess Crystal Palace would also be contented with that. Eze is normally an attacking midfielder so his priority should be to prepare nice goal chances to his teammates rather than playing individually. I know there is a Bellingham situation but he is playing quite extra. Grin

When it comes to the match tonight I expect Tottenham to maintain their good look. Son and Maddison have been playing incredible. If they maintain the same ambition they can win easier.

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