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Quote from: Usasauki2004 on October 22, 2023, 11:23:06 AM

Quote from: jakdanyel on July 01, 2023, 04:17:05 AM

Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

I see no team better for Mbappe than Madrid. Madrid are team that don't rush to sign players but once they have set you as there target then it will be very hard for y not to be there player. I still blame PSG why you should keep player that has shown you clearly that he is not willing to stay anymore but rather you persuaded him to the extent of paying more than what he deserves.

The kind of contract pen down by Mbappe that PSG are paying now is very high and at the end he will still leave because his contract expires by 2024 and he's yet to sign another contract. Mbappe's dream is too big that if he remain in PSG he can't actualise it and the best place for young stars to actualise their dreams and be brought to more light is Madrid.

In Madrid getting UCL and Balloon d'Or will be much more easier for him. By 2024 he will be going to Madrid for free which is quite unfortunate, so PSG can't make a dime from his departure.

@jakdanyel Liverpool don’t have that kind of funds so this is a baseless rumour and they’ll need to strengthen in other departments too hence I don’t see this move happening. @Usasauki2004 yea for now Real Madrid is the only team seriously showing interest in him but I feel that Chelsea can also pay him crazy money and lastly he’s already worked under Poch hence Chelsea could be another destination for Mbappe.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 23, 2023, 12:14:55 AM

There should be no room for crying over past results brace yourself up and focus on what's ahead. Good, blames on Robert Sanchez since you can't sees Pochetino made some changes that couldn't help Chelsea win that game.
Seventy Minutes with the scores two goals to nil and Pochetino went ahead to bring in Madueke? He has defender's that can come up as midfielder's and same was Ugochukwu.

I also think Pochettino made a mistake by bolstering the defense when they were only leading by one goal. The team they had on the field at the time was doing well against Arsenal, and with a bit more luck, they could have scored more goals.

Quote from: Xcode7 on October 23, 2023, 12:57:04 AM

Consistency is often a problem for many teams, Aston Villa did appear very good at the start of this season but I have a little doubt that they will be able to be consistent until the end of the season because if we look at the quality of several other teams which are also above Aston Villa so I think it will still be difficult for them. Aston Villa to be able to compete at the top of the Premier League standings, especially to finish in the top 4 positions.

As for Aston Villa, I believe they can keep up their current performance and securing a top-four finish this season would be a great achievement for them. However, their squad depth might not be sufficient to aim for the championship.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 22, 2023, 01:42:29 PM

Aston Villa are still going on incredibly well. They have increased their unbeaten series to 5 games by this enormous win over West Ham by 4-1. Douglas Luiz really made difference.

Emery is such an amazing manager honestly. Wherever he goes he still continues to manage the teams in the same way. He is always managing to be successful. Aston Villa are only 2 points behind the leader now. This must be like a dream start for them. They will need to finish in top 5 or win the Europa Conference League title to have a ticket for a European competition again. The Premier League task seems more difficult to me but they still have an alternative to that.

In almost every season, the competition at the top of the Premier League is very tight, but not all of these teams are able to be consistent until the end of the season.
Consistency is often a problem for many teams, Aston Villa did appear very good at the start of this season but I have a little doubt that they will be able to be consistent until the end of the season because if we look at the quality of several other teams which are also above Aston Villa so I think it will still be difficult for them. Aston Villa to be able to compete at the top of the Premier League standings, especially to finish in the top 4 positions.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on October 22, 2023, 10:53:31 PM

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Emery is such an amazing manager honestly. Wherever he goes he still continues to manage the teams in the same way. He is always managing to be successful. Aston Villa are only 2 points behind the leader now. This must be like a dream start for them. They will need to finish in top 5 or win the Europa Conference League title to have a ticket for a European competition again. The Premier League task seems more difficult to me but they still have an alternative to that.

Currently the competition in the Premier League is still very tight and even though there is only a difference of 2 points, Aston Villa is in fifth place and the competition in the top 5 is very fierce. I think Aston Villa can at least secure 4th or 5th place but as you said it will be more difficult to get a Champions League ticket in the League than in UEFA competitions. I believe Aston Villa is the favorite to win the UEFA competition.

Aston Villa started the season very well, they have managed to win 6 wins from 9 games in the EPL competition this season. The 19 points they have collected mean they are not too far from the top of the standings. Aston Villa has a very good chance of getting into the top four of the standings if they are able to maintain their best game as has been shown previously. However, the teams ranked in the top four are some of the best teams competing in the EPL, it will be very difficult for Aston Villa to be one of them.

The season is still very long, there will be big changes in the standings. Newcastle also has the same opportunity as Aston Villa, Manchester United is also improving in order to achieve the success they achieved last season. It's hard to imagine that teams like Aston Villa, Newcastle and Manchester United can join the elite teams in the top four, especially since Liverpool and Tottenham have performed so well this season. I dare to place a bet on Arsenal and Manchester City, these two teams will take two tickets to the UCL, while the other two tickets will be contested by other teams.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

There should be no room for crying over past results brace yourself up and focus on what's ahead. Good, blames on Robert Sanchez since you can't sees Pochetino made some changes that couldn't help Chelsea win that game.
Seventy Minutes with the scores two goals to nil and Pochetino went ahead to bring in Madueke? He has defender's that can come up as midfielder's and same was Ugochukwu.

I must say that Mudryk's goal was complete mistake, that goal is the clear definition of luck. It was lovely to see. Both goalkeepers made errors. Interesting game.
Chelsea attacks doing fine, now midfielder's and defender's have to work together to maintain balance.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

Sanchez is the reason why chelsea was getting comeback by arsenal yet pochettino should be blamed in this game as well. I meant let's try to take a look at what happened during the game. Sanchez has performed so badly by making unnecessary blunder but pochettino was also making it even worst by put jackson it and replace mudryk which was consistently contributing a lot. Murdryk was alwasy able in pressing its opponent. I saw that the left wing back of arsenal was facing difficulty in beating mudryk 1 on 1. It's caused by he has a very fast speed.
This is also the main reason why pochettino shall also be blamed by the fans as well. The contribution being made by mudryk is very big compared with jackson which was obviously contributed zero to the club during his game.
Pochettino was making arsenal feel confuses by putting sterling as a striker but this guy can also play as winger as well. Pochettino was also fucked the club too with his non sense decision.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 22, 2023, 01:42:29 PM

Emery is such an amazing manager honestly. Wherever he goes he still continues to manage the teams in the same way. He is always managing to be successful. Aston Villa are only 2 points behind the leader now. This must be like a dream start for them. They will need to finish in top 5 or win the Europa Conference League title to have a ticket for a European competition again. The Premier League task seems more difficult to me but they still have an alternative to that.

Currently the competition in the Premier League is still very tight and even though there is only a difference of 2 points, Aston Villa is in fifth place and the competition in the top 5 is very fierce. I think Aston Villa can at least secure 4th or 5th place but as you said it will be more difficult to get a Champions League ticket in the League than in UEFA competitions. I believe Aston Villa is the favorite to win the UEFA competition.

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Aston Villa are still going on incredibly well. They have increased their unbeaten series to 5 games by this enormous win over West Ham by 4-1. Douglas Luiz really made difference.

Emery is such an amazing manager honestly. Wherever he goes he still continues to manage the teams in the same way. He is always managing to be successful. Aston Villa are only 2 points behind the leader now. This must be like a dream start for them. They will need to finish in top 5 or win the Europa Conference League title to have a ticket for a European competition again. The Premier League task seems more difficult to me but they still have an alternative to that.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

Sanchez's mistake was so massive. It was also destroying the mentality owned by the club through his one mistake. I don't even know what sanchez think but his mistake was obviously unacceptable. He was passing to the teammate who has been pressed by arsenal's player.
It's very bad decision making by him. Sanchez needs to learn from this mistake but surprisingly chelsea was able leading the game against arsenal. I can't really tolerate sanchez's mistake. he was making the gameplay of chelsea dropped drastically.

Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

Im thinking like that too. Mudryk had been showing how skillful he was. I never expect that if he was aiming for such angle which is very difficult to be raised. It seems like that mudryk's hard work is really paying off.
Mudryk will always become the main starter of chelsea. he needs only to increase his skill to control his handling. He is fast but he can only run straight.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 01, 2023, 04:17:05 AM

Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

I see no team better for Mbappe than Madrid. Madrid are team that don't rush to sign players but once they have set you as there target then it will be very hard for y not to be there player. I still blame PSG why you should keep player that has shown you clearly that he is not willing to stay anymore but rather you persuaded him to the extent of paying more than what he deserves.

The kind of contract pen down by Mbappe that PSG are paying now is very high and at the end he will still leave because his contract expires by 2024 and he's yet to sign another contract. Mbappe's dream is too big that if he remain in PSG he can't actualise it and the best place for young stars to actualise their dreams and be brought to more light is Madrid.

In Madrid getting UCL and Balloon d'Or will be much more easier for him. By 2024 he will be going to Madrid for free which is quite unfortunate, so PSG can't make a dime from his departure.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

Mikel Arteta again tried to control the ball with pressing and off the ball movements, while Pochettino dominated Arteta with tactical formations and substitutions until the 75th minute of the match. With Sterling as a pseudo-striker and Palmer as a right wing-back, Arteta had a tough game ahead of him. During the match, we saw how the Arsenal wingers, who are not yet fully conditioned, were not yet ready for such a physical match, how the rainy weather caused great problems for the teams who wanted to play the ball, and how Chelsea's team formation matched the skills of the players. Jorginho and Zinchenko at the same time doesn't suit against such physical power-fed teams. This will lead to Declan Rice tiring more and getting injured faster. Still, it's a positive to see Arteta making more sensible changes during the game.

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Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

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Chelsea need this win even more than Arsenal these days. They started the season really terrible and they are desperate to improve their form. They can't get consistent goal contribution from their forward players unfortunately. Indeed they have been quite well for a couple of weeks.

But it is still early to trust Chelsea in my opinion. Moreover Arsenal have been dominant against Chelsea in their last 3 head-to-heads too. They won all of them.

There is a quite big performance gap between these teams this season. As long as Arteta make his players fully ready for the match I don't expect them to get a surprising result.

The game is a 50/50 game for both Arsenal and Chelsea. But without siding either if the clubs since I'm neutral, Arsenal should win. If they could run down Manchester City with a goal. It might seem lucky but still, they have the potentials of winning the game tommorow.
Chelsea needs the win but they will not get it against Arsenal only if important defender's gets Injured.

Winning Arsenal, a side better than they are should be a good idea so they could use that too boost them confidence.

No excuses would be entertained, it's either a wine from any sides of draw. Pochetino has experienced difficulty winning Arsenal as a manager of Tottenham Hotspur, he would still lose again as he faces Arsenal for the first time with Chelsea tommorow.

Chelsea will really have a big task ahead today because defeating Arsenal will be one big thing to do,I think it will really be a hard nut to crack because we all see how Arsenal have grown in the last couple of seasons ago,and looking at Statistics,it only shows that Arsenal have more advantage in this game than Chelsea because in their last three meetings at Standford Bridge, Arsenal have always be winning,and therefore I ask think history is still saying that Arsenal still have an edge over Chelsea in this game.
But what I'm Still surprised about is the odd they've given to Arsenal in this game which is about 2.15 odds,and the last time they gave them this kind of odd was against City which they won.Therefore we would see how this game would end.

The players did well, fought hard time win the match, the coach as well had some big errors that can't be avoided. Pochetino winning two goals ahead should have made better substute. That alone spoiled the game.
Though for a Chelsea side striving to the top they have done well against a side that won against Manchester City last two weeks in the Premier League.

It's a derby, one point home from Arsenal is a good way to go about it. Arsenal now will have to focus on winning Sevilla in the Champions League. But that will be difficult. Chelsea do not have the qualities to do so

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I think that win by Arsenal over Manchester City in Emirates could be an indicator of a thing for this season. I mean Arsenal might maintain the title competition until the final week this time. You know how they fought for it last season for a long time. However they started a really bad streak on the final weeks which eased Manchester City's job a lot.

This time Arsenal seem even more dedicated at least for now. Winning against Manchester City in a big game isn't easy normally.

I completely agree with you because that was what Arsenal failed to do last season and it cost them to lose
the Premier League trophy to Manchester City. But to see Arsenal win over Manchester City at home indicates that Arsenal might win the league if Manchester City continues with their current form. Arsenal should keep on winning their games to have a very big point different from Manchester City before Kevin De Bruyne comes back from injury.

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On the other hand Tottenham are also likely to join this duo in the title competition if they go on like this. Ange Postecoglou has made a lot of progress so far.

I don't believe Tottenham has what it takes to win the Premier League trophy even with their current form. Tottenham is a club that always has a good start in EPL but as time proceeds they start struggling to win games.

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Chelsea not completely improved this season and is not much different from last season, but we also cannot confirm whether Chelsea will be able to recover and improve its performance little by little because this season is still long and in terms of appearance, Arsenal is much better when compared to Chelsea in the last two final season.

Even though Chelsea is playing as the home team, this will still be quite a tough match for Chelsea because they are facing a club that has not lost this season and looking at their record of 5 meetings, Arsenal dominates the victory against Chelsea so Arsenal will be the bookies favorite to bet on some money on the Arsenal club and I will also bet on Arsenal in that match.

This will indeed be a tough match for Chelsea because even when facing teams below Arsenal they face difficulties in winning, especially against Arsenal, and the two consecutive wins they managed to get cannot yet show that Chelsea has recovered, because the two teams they lost were teams which is quite weak, especially Burnley.
However, what is interesting is that even though Arsenal are the favorites to win this match, they have quite big odds in my opinion @ 2.23 and Chelsea @ 3.20, and a draw @ 3.15 on the betting market. If you are quite sure that Arsenal will win then immediately betting on the money line will be quite profitable, but I think a draw is still possible because of course, Chelsea don't want to disappoint their fans again at Stamford Bridge where this season they have lost twice at home and that is very painful for Chelsea who is struggling to recover from last season's downturn.

looking at Arsenal's odds which @ 2.23 are big enough odds so many will favor Arsenal in this match. Indeed, we can't predict whether Arsenal will be able to beat Chelsea in an away match, but I'm sure Arsenal will do it seriously to be able to get points and be able to win. is in first place, especially since Arsenal is in their best performance this season, but it is possible that Chelsea will give a surprise in this match, even though it is impossible, it could happen because there are always surprises in every match. Taking points from Arsenal is very important for Chelsea at this time to improve their position.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 20, 2023, 06:43:26 PM

Quote from: Distraction on October 20, 2023, 03:01:17 PM

Chelsea need this win even more than Arsenal these days. They started the season really terrible and they are desperate to improve their form. They can't get consistent goal contribution from their forward players unfortunately. Indeed they have been quite well for a couple of weeks.

But it is still early to trust Chelsea in my opinion. Moreover Arsenal have been dominant against Chelsea in their last 3 head-to-heads too. They won all of them.

There is a quite big performance gap between these teams this season. As long as Arteta make his players fully ready for the match I don't expect them to get a surprising result.

The game is a 50/50 game for both Arsenal and Chelsea. But without siding either if the clubs since I'm neutral, Arsenal should win. If they could run down Manchester City with a goal. It might seem lucky but still, they have the potentials of winning the game tommorow.
Chelsea needs the win but they will not get it against Arsenal only if important defender's gets Injured.

Winning Arsenal, a side better than they are should be a good idea so they could use that too boost them confidence.

No excuses would be entertained, it's either a wine from any sides of draw. Pochetino has experienced difficulty winning Arsenal as a manager of Tottenham Hotspur, he would still lose again as he faces Arsenal for the first time with Chelsea tommorow.

Chelsea will really have a big task ahead today because defeating Arsenal will be one big thing to do,I think it will really be a hard nut to crack because we all see how Arsenal have grown in the last couple of seasons ago,and looking at Statistics,it only shows that Arsenal have more advantage in this game than Chelsea because in their last three meetings at Standford Bridge, Arsenal have always be winning,and therefore I ask think history is still saying that Arsenal still have an edge over Chelsea in this game.
But what I'm Still surprised about is the odd they've given to Arsenal in this game which is about 2.15 odds,and the last time they gave them this kind of odd was against City which they won.Therefore we would see how this game would end.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 20, 2023, 03:01:17 PM

Chelsea need this win even more than Arsenal these days. They started the season really terrible and they are desperate to improve their form. They can't get consistent goal contribution from their forward players unfortunately. Indeed they have been quite well for a couple of weeks.

But it is still early to trust Chelsea in my opinion. Moreover Arsenal have been dominant against Chelsea in their last 3 head-to-heads too. They won all of them.

There is a quite big performance gap between these teams this season. As long as Arteta make his players fully ready for the match I don't expect them to get a surprising result.

The game is a 50/50 game for both Arsenal and Chelsea. But without siding either if the clubs since I'm neutral, Arsenal should win. If they could run down Manchester City with a goal. It might seem lucky but still, they have the potentials of winning the game tommorow.
Chelsea needs the win but they will not get it against Arsenal only if important defender's gets Injured.

Winning Arsenal, a side better than they are should be a good idea so they could use that too boost them confidence.

No excuses would be entertained, it's either a wine from any sides of draw. Pochetino has experienced difficulty winning Arsenal as a manager of Tottenham Hotspur, he would still lose again as he faces Arsenal for the first time with Chelsea tommorow.

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Chelsea need this win even more than Arsenal these days. They started the season really terrible and they are desperate to improve their form. They can't get consistent goal contribution from their forward players unfortunately. Indeed they have been quite well for a couple of weeks.

But it is still early to trust Chelsea in my opinion. Moreover Arsenal have been dominant against Chelsea in their last 3 head-to-heads too. They won all of them.

There is a quite big performance gap between these teams this season. As long as Arteta make his players fully ready for the match I don't expect them to get a surprising result.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on October 20, 2023, 02:42:46 PM

The mistakes started with firing Tuchel, they shouldn't have done that to begin with and I believe that we are going to end up with something that would be a little over the top and shouldn't really worry about it at all. I think it is going to end up with anything good for them in this game.

I think so. Big teams these days seem to be in a hurry to find faults in their clubs and are too quick to take steps to dismiss someone in order to fix the slump. However, adjusting playing styles and adapting to the league takes time. I'm starting to feel that big teams don't truly value the process of finding a club's best form. Giving individuals a chance isn't wrong, as everyone might need time, including Thomas Tuchel.

We know that not everyone can kick off their careers on the right foot, but the key is that once they've had ample time to adapt, they have a good opportunity to find the right team composition.

But Chelsea seems to be turning things around recently, as evidenced by their consecutive victories in the last three matches, particularly against Fulham, which had a strong start to this season.

While in the process of performance recovery, for now, it appears that Chelsea isn't capable of defeating Arsenal in the London derby.

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Honestly Arsenal has to win this game if they want to win the title, there is nothing that is looking good about Chelsea these days and I feel like it wouldn't really be anything that would make them lose in this game. Chelsea is just way too bad and they do not have a way out neither, with too many managers and too many transfers, they still couldn't figure out what's wrong with the team and they are going to end up being worse.

The mistakes started with firing Tuchel, they shouldn't have done that to begin with and I believe that we are going to end up with something that would be a little over the top and shouldn't really worry about it at all. I think it is going to end up with anything good for them in this game.

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