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Quote from: bots1 on September 17, 2023, 07:52:44 AM

What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League. Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

Erik ten Hag has made many of the transfers he wanted but Manchester United are still not at the desired level. In fact, I think the chances of him being sacked are low at the moment, but they are in the same group in the Champions League with Bayern Munich, Galatasaray and Copenhagen. If Galatasaray pulls off a surprise and manages to beat Manchester United and finish second in the group, the danger bells will start ringing for Etik ten Hag. However, it is too early to talk about that. I think they are in a temporary period and in a few weeks they will start playing better. Once they solve their defensive problems I think they will start to get better results.

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Quote from: bots1 on September 18, 2023, 02:46:29 AM

If you look at Chelsea's game so far, it seems very difficult for Chelsea to get into the Champions League zone next season. Mauricio Pochettino has a very difficult task in building a team, especially since he is only in his first season at Chelsea and Chelsea has completely overhauled the team by bringing in and selling almost all of its players this season. It is not an easy task for a coach to take a team in transition and immediately perform well, especially like Chelsea.

Pochettino has not been able to give his best since he was entrusted as Chelsea coach, one win, two draws and two defeats is not a good achievement for a team that has spent large amounts of money to bring in players in the transfer market. A complete overhaul has not been able to help Chelsea enter the Champions League zone, due to losing many points in the last five matches, Chelsea is still stuck in 14th position with 5 points.

Pochettino's task became even more difficult after he was unable to get full points at Bournemouth headquarters. In the next match, Chelsea will face Aston Villa, who are stronger than Bournemouth. Pochettino doesn't have much time left to return Chelsea to its best form, if he fails in the next few matches, perhaps management will immediately take decisive action by sacking him immediately.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on September 17, 2023, 11:51:39 AM

The Chelsea vs Bournemouth match saw plenty of attacking play between the two teams but neither side managed to secure a win rather the match ended in a draw. Although today's match was at Bournemouth's home ground, they still couldn't mount a strong attack against Chelsea which resulted in a draw. In today's match both teams tried enough but they could not win the match with great effort. We know that every team is strong in their own ground but in this match Bournemouth drew a lot against a team that is in good form. Chelsea are 2 points ahead of Bournemouth in the new Premier League season, in table points, but it is difficult to say how well Chelsea will play this season and whether they can reach the top of the points table. However, if Chelsea can perform well, the players will definitely be in a good position.

If you look at Chelsea's game so far, it seems very difficult for Chelsea to get into the Champions League zone next season. Mauricio Pochettino has a very difficult task in building a team, especially since he is only in his first season at Chelsea and Chelsea has completely overhauled the team by bringing in and selling almost all of its players this season. It is not an easy task for a coach to take a team in transition and immediately perform well, especially like Chelsea.

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Quote from: klidex on September 17, 2023, 02:14:36 PM

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What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League. Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

It's very sad that Manchester United's current situation is because it has lost its performance, it's not like it used to be and I won't blame anyone here because previously I read other people's predictions saying Manchester United will lose this match when they host Brighton because United is in a bad condition when there are several problems that make performance unstable and we can't just blame coach Erik Ten Hag because as a coach he has certainly given his best to the club and his players but if that can't be accepted by his players then the coach can't do anything and if Ten Hag always being bullied and blamed when given a warning to be fired, it would be better to resign than to always be blamed when United's performance drops drastically.

Manchester United management has spent large transfer fees this season by bringing in players who match Erik Ten Hag's wishes but Ten Hag has been unable to develop the player's talent. Even Erik Ten Hag's style of play did not develop as expected when he first arrived at Man United. Even though the players brought in by Erik Ten Hag cost a lot of money, when playing at Man United Erik Ten Hag was unable to maximize the player's potential.

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Quote from: klidex on September 17, 2023, 02:14:36 PM

Quote from: bots1 on September 17, 2023, 07:52:44 AM

What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League. Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

It's very sad that Manchester United's current situation is because it has lost its performance, it's not like it used to be and I won't blame anyone here because previously I read other people's predictions saying Manchester United will lose this match when they host Brighton because United is in a bad condition when there are several problems that make performance unstable and we can't just blame coach Erik Ten Hag because as a coach he has certainly given his best to the club and his players but if that can't be accepted by his players then the coach can't do anything and if Ten Hag always being bullied and blamed when given a warning to be fired, it would be better to resign than to always be blamed when United's performance drops drastically.

@klidex while I don’t expect Ten Hag to be sacked just yet but I won’t be surprised if at some stage Manchester United get rid of him because of his ego we only target player’s he’s played with irrespective of the fact whether they’ll be a good fit or not classic example: Anthony.

Lastly he keeps on speaking of plan’s yet throws the player’s in the fire line instead of accepting the blame for poor tactics and wasn’t he the one who said Manchester United were wrong not to play Donny and look at what he did and while people say that Donny is a flop compare his preseason record vs Mount and you’ll see why Donny was way better yet to satisfy Ten Hag the club bought Mount.

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Quote from: bots1 on September 17, 2023, 07:52:44 AM

What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League. Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

It's very sad that Manchester United's current situation is because it has lost its performance, it's not like it used to be and I won't blame anyone here because previously I read other people's predictions saying Manchester United will lose this match when they host Brighton because United is in a bad condition when there are several problems that make performance unstable and we can't just blame coach Erik Ten Hag because as a coach he has certainly given his best to the club and his players but if that can't be accepted by his players then the coach can't do anything and if Ten Hag always being bullied and blamed when given a warning to be fired, it would be better to resign than to always be blamed when United's performance drops drastically.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on September 17, 2023, 11:51:39 AM

The Chelsea vs Bournemouth match saw plenty of attacking play between the two teams but neither side managed to secure a win rather the match ended in a draw. Although today's match was at Bournemouth's home ground, they still couldn't mount a strong attack against Chelsea which resulted in a draw. In today's match both teams tried enough but they could not win the match with great effort. We know that every team is strong in their own ground but in this match Bournemouth drew a lot against a team that is in good form. Chelsea are 2 points ahead of Bournemouth in the new Premier League season, in table points, but it is difficult to say how well Chelsea will play this season and whether they can reach the top of the points table. However, if Chelsea can perform well, the players will definitely be in a good position.

Lol, not all teams can play strongly and well even if they play at home, because only the factor of playing at home basically cannot be a complete guarantee for the team to be able to get good results. After all, if for example the away team has better quality and performance too, then in the end the away team will be able to get full points. But unfortunately, about Chelsea in this moment that does not have a good performance, then of course a draw result like this is also still a good result for them, because they share points to get 1 point in this match, at least not losing.

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Quote from: bots1 on September 17, 2023, 07:52:44 AM

What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League. Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

Erik ten Hag is really a bit of a failure at Manchester United but we have to accept that he doesn't have an easy task.

Honestly, I want him to stay in charge because as long as he is at Manchester United, Manchester City will become champions more easily. Hhaahh hahah joke joke, just a joke. In the old days clubs used to give more chances to managers. Ferguson didn't win a trophy in his first 5 seasons at Manchester United. Arsene Wenger didn't win trophies for years at Arsenal. We can increase these examples. I think Manchester United should stand behind him. There is no success where there is no stability.

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The Chelsea vs Bournemouth match saw plenty of attacking play between the two teams but neither side managed to secure a win rather the match ended in a draw. Although today's match was at Bournemouth's home ground, they still couldn't mount a strong attack against Chelsea which resulted in a draw. In today's match both teams tried enough but they could not win the match with great effort. We know that every team is strong in their own ground but in this match Bournemouth drew a lot against a team that is in good form. Chelsea are 2 points ahead of Bournemouth in the new Premier League season, in table points, but it is difficult to say how well Chelsea will play this season and whether they can reach the top of the points table. However, if Chelsea can perform well, the players will definitely be in a good position.

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Quote from: hyudien on September 17, 2023, 08:21:59 AM

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What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League.

Don't be surprised by this result, because Man United deserved this result. You must be aware of all the shortcomings and differences in quality between Man United and Brighton. Just look, since the first goal, the defense provided many gaps, then Rashford became a lazy striker, unable to be creative and having difficulty creating opportunities. Another mistake where Rasmus Hojlund was pulled out when he found a small gap in the opponent. With this defeat, it's quite difficult for me to see what it would be like to play in the UCL against Bayern Munich, even against Galatasaray and Copenhagen it looks like it will be difficult.

Quote from: bots1 on September 17, 2023, 07:52:44 AM

Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

Being fired doesn't mean Man United will be better, apart from Erik Ten Hag, which coach will fix the mess that Erik Ten Hag started? so it's better for the coach to finish what he started. However, at this time it is useless to replace it because it is just a waste of time. Erik Ten Hag just needs to make peace with himself, and also have to get closer personally to the players, return to their respective points of consciousness and try to build a sense of family within the Man United camp.

Erik Ten Hag deserves the blame as the coach he will be responsible for this result. In last night's match, Erik Ten Hag had very little strategy in developing the game, especially when he withdrew Casemiro, which was the wrong decision because Casemiro's role was very central as a defensive midfielder. This can be seen when Casemiro was pulled out. Man United's midfield was very fragile, making Brighton's players dominant in controlling the midfield, making it easier for Brighton's players to plan attacks. Erik Ten Hag must immediately improve and must also find the right strategy because the next match is against Bayern Munich in the Champions League, which incidentally is a strong opponent. If things don't improve immediately, it is not impossible that Man United will be slaughtered again by Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: bots1 on September 17, 2023, 07:52:44 AM

Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

Not yet but he’s heading that way if they don’t start getting positive results, fast.

Ten Hag has spent close to £400,000,000 since being there and they look further than ever away from competing for the PL and CL.

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Quote from: bots1 on September 17, 2023, 07:52:44 AM

What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League.

Don't be surprised by this result, because Man United deserved this result. You must be aware of all the shortcomings and differences in quality between Man United and Brighton. Just look, since the first goal, the defense provided many gaps, then Rashford became a lazy striker, unable to be creative and having difficulty creating opportunities. Another mistake where Rasmus Hojlund was pulled out when he found a small gap in the opponent. With this defeat, it's quite difficult for me to see what it would be like to play in the UCL against Bayern Munich, even against Galatasaray and Copenhagen it looks like it will be difficult.

Quote from: bots1 on September 17, 2023, 07:52:44 AM

Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

Being fired doesn't mean Man United will be better, apart from Erik Ten Hag, which coach will fix the mess that Erik Ten Hag started? so it's better for the coach to finish what he started. However, at this time it is useless to replace it because it is just a waste of time. Erik Ten Hag just needs to make peace with himself, and also have to get closer personally to the players, return to their respective points of consciousness and try to build a sense of family within the Man United camp.

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What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League. Is it appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?

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What do you think about this match? I did bet on City but I didn't expect West Ham to score the first goal in the 36th minute by James Ward. I almost couldn't believe what I was seeing. However, luckily City managed to win the match and my betting money was saved. Grin

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 29, 2023, 11:08:05 PM

We have the big match Arsenal vs. MU this week, What you though?

This is a classic match the Premier League has. Both teams have equal statistics in head-to-head. In the last 5 matches, Arsenal and MU has 2 wins, and 1 draw, but MU is not good at the beginning, they lost when away to Tottenham. This situation going to be homework for the squad because Arsenal so far is still on fire like the previous session. If my guess, MU is most likely to lose, or draw without any goal if the team playing defensively.

maybe its too late to discuss this match which has already passed but I just want to comment that MU performance is still failing in every match, the performance is not like last season and Arsenal is still the favorite until now and it is Ten Hag responsibility to improve their performance MU is really worrying at the moment and if it continues to decline I think Ten Hag is ready to be fired. final result Arsenal vs MU 3-1

on the one hand, as long as Arsenal still has Declan Rice and Odegaard who are reliable players, Arsenal performance will be more stable in the long term and in the upcoming match against Spurs and I will have no hesitation in placing a bet on Arsenal.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 13, 2023, 08:47:44 AM

@jakdanyel though this saga finally ended Kane’s wait for a trophy didn’t end because Bayern surprisingly lost yesterday but hopefully he can win something by the end of the season. Also coming back to the league matches I was impressed by Newcastle and it looks like that they’ll be seriously challenging City and Arsenal for the league title and who knows they may even cause an upset by winning it so what are your thoughts on their title challenge?

Seriously, looking at how Newcastle is now, I think it will be the same as City when it was acquired by Sheikh Mansour, where in the following few years City became a title contender and even became champions in 2011-2012. I think Newcastle's story will be a bit the same as City's but unfortunately this is an era where so much money is being poured out due to crazy increases in player transfer market prices.

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We have the big match Arsenal vs. MU this week, What you though?

This is a classic match the Premier League has. Both teams have equal statistics in head-to-head. In the last 5 matches, Arsenal and MU has 2 wins, and 1 draw, but MU is not good at the beginning, they lost when away to Tottenham. This situation going to be homework for the squad because Arsenal so far is still on fire like the previous session. If my guess, MU is most likely to lose, or draw without any goal if the team playing defensively.

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Quote from: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on August 23, 2023, 10:24:38 AM

Crystal Palace vs Arsenal Yesterday match between these two teams, Arsenal team won the match by scoring 1 goal. I think Arsenal team did not perform well in this match because Arsenal team played very well. Player M. Ødegaard scored 1 goal in 54 minutes.T. Tomiyasu got 1 red cards in 67 minutes. If Crystal Palace could have played better then this match would have been a draw. But Crystal Palace could not win the match due to a little weakness of the team.

About the red card, the officials didn't come to play this season. Six red cards have been shown so far this season and over 89 yellow cards (in omly 2 game weeks). So players need to be extra careful this season.

In the two EPL games played so far, Arsenal has struggled greatly to win those games. It has been hard-fought battles and these battles have been against teams that are thought to be the underdogs this season. They need to step up and improve their performance because it gets more difficult which every passing game week.

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Crystal Palace vs Arsenal Yesterday match between these two teams, Arsenal team won the match by scoring 1 goal. I think Arsenal team did not perform well in this match because Arsenal team played very well. Player M. Ødegaard scored 1 goal in 54 minutes.T. Tomiyasu got 1 red cards in 67 minutes. If Crystal Palace could have played better then this match would have been a draw. But Crystal Palace could not win the match due to a little weakness of the team.

It was a hard-fought victory for the Gunners. Arsenal showed class because they dominated the match, and created more chances but their strikers, especially Nkatiah were wasteful. He wasted a clear one-on-one chance with the goalkeeper only to loop the ball higher than the post. But he paid back for his miss by winning a penalty. I saw the attacking prowess of the host after Takehiro Tomiyasu's red card. The home team kept on pressuring the host till the final whistle was blown. The sound of the final whistle was a great relief to the Arsenal team and Mikel Arteta. I saw the young Gunners coach celebrate after the win with his management team. Crystal Palace failed to utilize the opportunity to win after the red card. But I won't blame them that much because Arsenal was good defensively.

I was surprised to see Martin Odegaard taking the penalty while Bukayo Saka was on the pitch. I have never seen him take the penalty in the team, Gabriel Jesus and Gabriel Martinelli are all familiar penalty-takers. Maybe the captain is now skillful in penalties. It was a deserved three points for the Arsenal team.

@Fiatless Arsenal finally didn’t choke and this mentality could be a big difference as they head into this new season because last season they chocked and ended up losing the title to City. Also Rice is shaping up to be a top class player and I totally regret that Manchester United failed to get him because he would have totally transformed Manchester United into genuine title contender’s.

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Quote from: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on August 23, 2023, 10:24:38 AM

Crystal Palace vs Arsenal Yesterday match between these two teams, Arsenal team won the match by scoring 1 goal. I think Arsenal team did not perform well in this match because Arsenal team played very well. Player M. Ødegaard scored 1 goal in 54 minutes.T. Tomiyasu got 1 red cards in 67 minutes. If Crystal Palace could have played better then this match would have been a draw. But Crystal Palace could not win the match due to a little weakness of the team.

It was a hard-fought victory for the Gunners. Arsenal showed class because they dominated the match, and created more chances but their strikers, especially Nkatiah were wasteful. He wasted a clear one-on-one chance with the goalkeeper only to loop the ball higher than the post. But he paid back for his miss by winning a penalty. I saw the attacking prowess of the host after Takehiro Tomiyasu's red card. The home team kept on pressuring the host till the final whistle was blown. The sound of the final whistle was a great relief to the Arsenal team and Mikel Arteta. I saw the young Gunners coach celebrate after the win with his management team. Crystal Palace failed to utilize the opportunity to win after the red card. But I won't blame them that much because Arsenal was good defensively.

I was surprised to see Martin Odegaard taking the penalty while Bukayo Saka was on the pitch. I have never seen him take the penalty in the team, Gabriel Jesus and Gabriel Martinelli are all familiar penalty-takers. Maybe the captain is now skillful in penalties. It was a deserved three points for the Arsenal team.

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