I really think that Arsenal would be able to carry out a good counter attack so they could turn things around. but it turned out they actually lost quite embarrassingly 0 - 2, without a goal in return, even though they were playing at home. This certainly surprised Arsenal themselves. However, last season was like that, sometimes their performance started to decline in the middle of the season and hopefully this is the only time this silliness happens. They should learn from last season so as not to lose their chance again to hold the EPL title.
The overhyped Arsenal didn't meet up the expectations, they settle for a loss and that's one of the pure weaknesses of Gunners this season. They don't know how to take chances, this was simply their chance to top the table but they relent and didn't grab any golden chance. Mikel Arteta will talk to his players after the game and they will prepared themselves for more incoming matches, this is a strength that need to be proven by the entire team, Gunners are ready for the EPL title race and they won't easily give up, there's always room for bounce back remember. 
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I'm not a gunner fan but you should see how I support them lately. ( my reasons could be biased though ) I don't want Pep Guardiola winning because he's been bragging enough recently and he has been talking like Jose Mourinho does to other coaches. I hope they win the Premier League because if he don't, it'll be another twenty years until they finally win the Premier League, it'll be difficult for them to win.
Arteta has things to do too much if he wants to win the Premier, pressing for new set of midfielder's. The Entire squad are tired and they need another setif players to arrest them.
Arteta has things to do too much if he wants to win the Premier, pressing for new set of midfielder's. The Entire squad are tired and they need another setif players to arrest them.
I didn't see that. Where is Pep talking like Mou? Honestly I prefer Arsenal to win the championship but if Manchester City play better then they should be the champion again. We can't tell them not to do it anymore just because they always become champions. If they can play better, of course it should be them. I don't expect Pep to be like Mou. He is humble, unlike Mou.
Arteta still has a lot to fix. One day, Arsenal is playing very well, the next thing you know, they are finishing the match after taking 30 shots and not even scoring a goal.
Arsenal is like a club that has been hit by a curse, at important moments Arteta squad often loses points. wasted opportunities, and overall I agree with you that Arsenal doesn't seem to have learned much from last season's mistakes. I think a player mentality also has a big influence in overcoming challenges, Arteta must emphasize this side to be able to continue competing for the EPL trophy.
Arsenal is such a big team right now, many people expect a lot from them that any time they lose their game it becomes a very big topic and people exaggerate it a lot to make it look like they have failed. I don't think it is abnormal for them to lose a few games especially when it is a against a very good opponent like West Ham who we know can be a turn on the flesh of bigger teams. If Arsenal had lost to the bottom three teams, I would see it as abig fail, but West Ham is not a bad team. Liverpool comfortably proceeed to next year as first on the league.I'm not a gunner fan but you should see how I support them lately. ( my reasons could be biased though ) I don't want Pep Guardiola winning because he's been bragging enough recently and he has been talking like Jose Mourinho does to other coaches. I hope they win the Premier League because if he don't, it'll be another twenty years until they finally win the Premier League, it'll be difficult for them to win.
Arteta has things to do too much if he wants to win the Premier, pressing for new set of midfielder's. The Entire squad are tired and they need another setif players to arrest them.
I have totally missed that but do you have some lines you can quote or a video you can provide a link to? Because usually Pep Guardiola is not the kind of guy who attacks other coaches except when he gets attacked. The only times I remember when he was willing to fire some bullets towards his fellow coaches was during his time when he was the manager of Barcelona and Mourinho of Real Madrid. But now, what was he bragging about and which coach has he been talking about in a bad tone?
Last season Arsenal were defeated 6 times and 6 drew while this season Arsenal have been defeated 3 times and this is the middle of the season so I consider Arsenal to be almost the same as last season with almost the same achievement including total goals. I agree with you, I hope Manchester City can compete in the top 3 certainly more interesting if we see these 3 strong teams competing with each other like last season, what is clear is that Arsenal should not repeat the same mistake because last season Arsenal lost the 36th and 37th match.
I really think that Arsenal would be able to carry out a good counter attack so they could turn things around. but it turned out they actually lost quite embarrassingly 0 - 2, without a goal in return, even though they were playing at home. This certainly surprised Arsenal themselves. However, last season was like that, sometimes their performance started to decline in the middle of the season and hopefully this is the only time this silliness happens. They should learn from last season so as not to lose their chance again to hold the EPL title. 
Arsenal is like a club that has been hit by a curse, at important moments Arteta squad often loses points. wasted opportunities, and overall I agree with you that Arsenal doesn't seem to have learned much from last season's mistakes. I think a player mentality also has a big influence in overcoming challenges, Arteta must emphasize this side to be able to continue competing for the EPL trophy.
Arsenal is such a big team right now, many people expect a lot from them that any time they lose their game it becomes a very big topic and people exaggerate it a lot to make it look like they have failed. I don't think it is abnormal for them to lose a few games especially when it is a against a very good opponent like West Ham who we know can be a turn on the flesh of bigger teams. If Arsenal had lost to the bottom three teams, I would see it as abig fail, but West Ham is not a bad team. Liverpool comfortably proceeed to next year as first on the league.I'm not a gunner fan but you should see how I support them lately. ( my reasons could be biased though ) I don't want Pep Guardiola winning because he's been bragging enough recently and he has been talking like Jose Mourinho does to other coaches. I hope they win the Premier League because if he don't, it'll be another twenty years until they finally win the Premier League, it'll be difficult for them to win.
Arteta has things to do too much if he wants to win the Premier, pressing for new set of midfielder's. The Entire squad are tired and they need another setif players to arrest them.
We are going to watch another game week right away but technically we have left the first half of the season behind officially. After 19 games played Liverpool are the leader and Arsenal follow them by 2 points behind. If Arsenal didn't mess up against West Ham home it could have been the other way around in the standings now.
Manchester City were also one of the most profitable teams on that week. They might not be this lucky again this week in my opinion. Because I don't think Arsenal and Aston Villa would lose again. Liverpool have a tougher game against Newcastle at Anfield maybe but I expect them to win too.
Manchester City were also one of the most profitable teams on that week. They might not be this lucky again this week in my opinion. Because I don't think Arsenal and Aston Villa would lose again. Liverpool have a tougher game against Newcastle at Anfield maybe but I expect them to win too.
Arsenal this season, of course, They are stronger than the previous season, even the current point gap with Liverpool is 2 point. Which in my opinion is quite a close distance because I am sure they will be able to return to winning ways in the upcoming match. Arsenal have to learn a lot from last season about their failure to become champions so that this season they must be able to improve their quality to be able to lead the standings again in the upcoming matches. Apart from that, tomorrow Manchester City will face a team at the bottom of the standings and if Manchester City wins then we will see fiercer competition in the upcoming matches.
Last season Arsenal were defeated 6 times and 6 drew while this season Arsenal have been defeated 3 times and this is the middle of the season so I consider Arsenal to be almost the same as last season with almost the same achievement including total goals. I agree with you, I hope Manchester City can compete in the top 3 certainly more interesting if we see these 3 strong teams competing with each other like last season, what is clear is that Arsenal should not repeat the same mistake because last season Arsenal lost the 36th and 37th match even though it is one of the determinants.
Yes, that's right. As usual, Arsenal didn't learn from last season where they always lost control in the middle of the season or until the end of the season, why consistency is important and also rotating players to ensure players are in good form to compete, Arteta has a lot to learn. from previous failures where Arsenal always failed to win the title like last season because of unnecessary mistakes like this.
This happened to Arsenal last season where they failed to perform well in the middle or towards the end of the season. Arsenal needs to understand that this thing happened to them last season. They were supposed to do well throughout the season so that they would be the champions this season. However, Arsenal was doing very well at the start of the season; they were even topping the standings, which meant they would secure that spot this season and be the favourites. I wish their coach would take that failure since last season and avoid such problems this season, but it seems to me the same thing will happen to them this season again.
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Arsenal should have been able to take advantage of the moment to win at home but they failed, West Ham turned out to be performing better than Arsenal, again Manchester City will again compete with Liverpool at the top of the standings because Arsenal's defeat yesterday, including Tottenahm and Aston Villa, will benefit Manchester City again .
West Ham did better yesterday than Arsenal. Even though Arsenal played at home, they failed to win West Ham. However, I think Liverpool will continue to top the standings because their performances seem to be great for me. However, a team like West Ham doesn’t support winning Arsenal because Arsenal is a very good team. They did well all the start of the season , so I’m surprised at how their performance is declining now.
Arsenal and Tottenham lost their last respective matches, so this is an opportunity for Manchester City to get closer to Liverpool at the top of the standings. Manchester City have 1 match in hand which could possibly put them within 2 points of Liverpool, so it won't be easy for Liverpool to win the title this season without tight competition.
Yes, that's right. As usual, Arsenal didn't learn from last season where they always lost control in the middle of the season or until the end of the season, why consistency is important and also rotating players to ensure players are in good form to compete, Arteta has a lot to learn. from previous failures where Arsenal always failed to win the title like last season because of unnecessary mistakes like this.Arsenal should have been able to take advantage of the moment to win at home but they failed, West Ham turned out to be performing better than Arsenal, again Manchester City will again compete with Liverpool at the top of the standings because Arsenal's defeat yesterday, including Tottenahm and Aston Villa, will benefit Manchester City again .
Arsenal this season, of course, They are stronger than the previous season, even the current point gap with Liverpool is 2 point. Which in my opinion is quite a close distance because I am sure they will be able to return to winning ways in the upcoming match. Arsenal have to learn a lot from last season about their failure to become champions so that this season they must be able to improve their quality to be able to lead the standings again in the upcoming matches. Apart from that, tomorrow Manchester City will face a team at the bottom of the standings and if Manchester City wins then we will see fiercer competition in the upcoming matches.
Arsenal is such a big team right now, many people expect a lot from them that any time they lose their game it becomes a very big topic and people exaggerate it a lot to make it look like they have failed. I don't think it is abnormal for them to lose a few games especially when it is a against a very good opponent like West Ham who we know can be a turn on the flesh of bigger teams. If Arsenal had lost to the bottom three teams, I would see it as abig fail, but West Ham is not a bad team. Liverpool comfortably proceeed to next year as first on the league.
Competition in the Premier League is so tight that any team can be beaten but this time it looked strange because Arsenal as one of the strongest teams was defeated at home even though previously we knew that Arsenal were very difficult to beat when playing at home. This defeat certainly concerns us all because we don't want Liverpool to be without competitors we want to see competition like last season every club struggled until the last season. If Arsenal have been beaten this week then let's wait to see if Liverpool also get a defeat in the next match, usually both teams do the same pattern we don't know if it's a coincidence. Now Liverpool is quite safe with a difference of 2 points.
Regardless of the recent dominance of Manchester City in the English Premier League, the competition has always been like this that's why most people see the Epl as one of the most difficult and unpredictable league because the team you least expected to win a match can rise of to beat teams that are on top of the league thst has been seen several times. The defeat of Arsenal should not be over emphasize because they aren't new to the league and they know too well that they are to expect any thing from any team and they shouldn't underestimate the performance of any team regardless of the past performance of the team. Arsenal losing to West Ham has created more room for a better competition in the league hopefully they can learn from their defeat and get back to their feet in their next match.
Changes in strategy and having aggressive approach bring Liverpool to this level, and they have good chance for the win with still it's very long way to go because we have good improvement in few other teams which can steal the show near the end of this season as we have history in Premier League nothing is sure until last match played Arsenal is also improved from their last year's performance, and they can also jump again after having few bad weeks with Manchester City is also at their best and back in business which is giving them still one of the hot favourite tag.
Aston Villa and Tottenham are also fairly in as they are giving good performance even they are having not enough quality like top three but Liverpool and Manchester City could be at the another level, and we can't give any better prediction about winner with still we have 20 rounds to go which is really enough time for having too many changes.
It's just that in this case there are still a number of things that must be improved by Klopp and Liverpool whatever the way because seeing their attack power is actually very good, it's just that for finishing sometimes this is not very good because apart from Salah who is very good there are still several players who in my opinion are still very lacking in terms of improving one of them is Nunez. He could have become a burden if it was always like this. Many opportunities that Nunez always gets but in the end the opportunity is always wasted just because of poor finishing so I think there must be some special treatment actually to overcome this.
Arsenal is like a club that has been hit by a curse, at important moments Arteta squad often loses points. wasted opportunities, and overall I agree with you that Arsenal doesn't seem to have learned much from last season's mistakes. I think a player mentality also has a big influence in overcoming challenges, Arteta must emphasize this side to be able to continue competing for the EPL trophy.
Liverpool is a more consistent team at the moment than any other team, but Jurgen Klopp squad must be careful in the current competition, because Manchester City have shown signs of their revival. The narrow difference in points means the risk of being overtaken is greater, and we know that Pep and his troops still have one match postponed, Arsenal and Aston Villa positions could be automatically ousted if Manchester City gets an additional 3 points.
Liverpool is a more consistent team at the moment than any other team, but Jurgen Klopp squad must be careful in the current competition, because Manchester City have shown signs of their revival. The narrow difference in points means the risk of being overtaken is greater, and we know that Pep and his troops still have one match postponed, Arsenal and Aston Villa positions could be automatically ousted if Manchester City gets an additional 3 points.
Why Arsenal? Yes they failed yesterday but they aren't the only one they shame this season. The same Wolves that beat Arsenal beat Manchester united 2 goals to nothing, they also beat Chelsea 2 goals to nothing. So what is the shame in losing when there win matches is far far greater than the matches they have lost. If Arsenal are very useless, then Manchester City should feel shame and never come to the public and make the world feel they are the best in Premier League.
Although, I will admit that I was not feeling the vibe of Arsenal yesterday, they didn't played to their full potential but I know they will so better by next half of the season because do the maths. They have played 19th matches for 19 weeks and only lose 2 and draw 1 match, you think that's a fallacy? They might not be the best yet but this Arsenal of today is 30 times better than the Arsenal of last 10 years and the fact that Manchester United, Manchester City, and Chelsea are falling out every time on the table shows that Arsenal is the new peaky blinders in town.
Arsenal defeat against West Ham did not put Arsenal out of the title race this season, I am sure Arteta has learned from last season's failure. Arsenal is only two points behind Liverpool, there is still a big possibility for Arsenal to return to the top of the standings because there are still so many matches that have not been completed. A defeat like this is very normal and can happen to any team, it is very difficult to finish the entire match without losing, sometimes results like this are needed so that the coach can continue to learn from the defeats his team experiences.
If measured in terms of points scored, Arsenal's performance is better than Manchester City. The defeat against West Ham was very painful for Arsenal because they failed to return to the top of the standings, but this defeat was not the end for Arsenal because they could make up for their mistake by winning in the next match.
Arsenal’s defeat didn’t put them off the title race rather opened up the race for the likes of City and the top 4 slot for Spurs and Man United to get in the race. Yes the defeat was needed and I think it came in at the best time, so that the coach can see his flaws and know how to tract the best out of this team, and I hope he discovers that quickly so as to avoid more losses that would make them drop down the table. If measured in terms of points scored, Arsenal's performance is better than Manchester City. The defeat against West Ham was very painful for Arsenal because they failed to return to the top of the standings, but this defeat was not the end for Arsenal because they could make up for their mistake by winning in the next match.
This is key especially as opposition teams will be getting most of their injured players back from injury. This will make the chase for the title open and interesting. Bringing more views for the fans, clubs and the league as a whole.There’s sure a huge time to make up for the defeat but while on the bid to makeup, they would have to try to avoid a repetition of this defeat else it’ll spell doom for their title chase this season.
Very pathetic outcome, and I quite agree with all that you said, and like someone else did mention here previously, Arsenal need to be careful and conscious to make sure they do not end with that same mistake they made Last season which cost them the title, losing more games from here might be too risky for them, this is why I agree with you, they will need to sit up and make sure they every game going forward from now on.
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Both Kevin De Bruyne and Erling Haaland are back running on the pitch and grass but Pep Guardiola has decided not to rush them back into the squad immediately.
I read and saw them return during that game before the finals they won. I think he's doing the right thing since they're both two important players for him and for the squad.
Let's see if he can go back on top since all clubs have decided to fumble when it mattered most. Arsenal in particular, I don't have much to say about them.
I am quite sure that Guardiola knows how much he needs De Bruyne and Haaland in the best condition possible for all the games that are to be played in the near future. I guess he didn't want them on the pitch during the boxing days and immediately make them go at full pace. He will take his time with them as he knows the titles are not to be won these days.
But De Bruyne isn't an easy case as he has had a complicated injury that can potentially break out again as it has before. But now they are used to playing without De Bruyne already, although I think it was impossible to overlook that De Bruyne was the missing piece of the puzzle in their game. It's quite a huge disadvantage if they have to play without him.
Yesterday results made Liverpool to sit comfortable in the first position because, Arsenal lose to their opponent in their home that gave Liverpool opportunity to be in the eye of people the team that will win this trophy this season if Arsenal miss it again.
How is Liverpool sitting comfortably in first position when they are just ahead of Arsenal, which is in second position with just two points? Any slight mistake by Liverpool will drop them from their current first position, so I won't say they are sitting confidently in first position. Let's see how they perform in their coming matches.
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Arsenal is like a club that has been hit by a curse, at important moments Arteta squad often loses points. wasted opportunities, and overall I agree with you that Arsenal doesn't seem to have learned much from last season's mistakes. I think a player mentality also has a big influence in overcoming challenges, Arteta must emphasize this side to be able to continue competing for the EPL trophy.So I don't fully agree when someone describes Arsenal as too bad in terms of their game. In my opinion, Arsenal was just unlucky, just like when Manchester City were forced to draw against Crystal Palace some time ago.
Liverpool is a more consistent team at the moment than any other team, but Jurgen Klopp squad must be careful in the current competition, because Manchester City have shown signs of their revival. The narrow difference in points means the risk of being overtaken is greater, and we know that Pep and his troops still have one match postponed, Arsenal and Aston Villa positions could be automatically ousted if Manchester City gets an additional 3 points.
Yes, Liverpool have been consistent so far and look like a convincing team to win the title this season. But wait, they have an important game at January 2, against Newcastle, so wait and see if they really deserve to lead the standings and are able to maintain their consistency. Arsenal defeat against West Ham did not put Arsenal out of the title race this season, I am sure Arteta has learned from last season's failure. Arsenal is only two points behind Liverpool, there is still a big possibility for Arsenal to return to the top of the standings because there are still so many matches that have not been completed. A defeat like this is very normal and can happen to any team, it is very difficult to finish the entire match without losing, sometimes results like this are needed so that the coach can continue to learn from the defeats his team experiences.
If measured in terms of points scored, Arsenal's performance is better than Manchester City. The defeat against West Ham was very painful for Arsenal because they failed to return to the top of the standings, but this defeat was not the end for Arsenal because they could make up for their mistake by winning in the next match.
Arsenal’s defeat didn’t put them off the title race rather opened up the race for the likes of City and the top 4 slot for Spurs and Man United to get in the race. Yes the defeat was needed and I think it came in at the best time, so that the coach can see his flaws and know how to tract the best out of this team, and I hope he discovers that quickly so as to avoid more losses that would make them drop down the table. If measured in terms of points scored, Arsenal's performance is better than Manchester City. The defeat against West Ham was very painful for Arsenal because they failed to return to the top of the standings, but this defeat was not the end for Arsenal because they could make up for their mistake by winning in the next match.
This is key especially as opposition teams will be getting most of their injured players back from injury. This will make the chase for the title open and interesting. Bringing more views for the fans, clubs and the league as a whole.There’s sure a huge time to make up for the defeat but while on the bid to makeup, they would have to try to avoid a repetition of this defeat else it’ll spell doom for their title chase this season.
Arsenal is such a big team right now, many people expect a lot from them that any time they lose their game it becomes a very big topic and people exaggerate it a lot to make it look like they have failed. I don't think it is abnormal for them to lose a few games especially when it is a against a very good opponent like West Ham who we know can be a turn on the flesh of bigger teams. If Arsenal had lost to the bottom three teams, I would see it as abig fail, but West Ham is not a bad team. Liverpool comfortably proceeed to next year as first on the league.
Competition in the Premier League is so tight that any team can be beaten but this time it looked strange because Arsenal as one of the strongest teams was defeated at home even though previously we knew that Arsenal were very difficult to beat when playing at home. This defeat certainly concerns us all because we don't want Liverpool to be without competitors we want to see competition like last season every club struggled until the last season. If Arsenal have been beaten this week then let's wait to see if Liverpool also get a defeat in the next match, usually both teams do the same pattern we don't know if it's a coincidence. Now Liverpool is quite safe with a difference of 2 points.
Yesterday results made Liverpool to sit comfortable in the first position because, Arsenal lose to their opponent in their home that gave Liverpool opportunity to be in the eye of people the team that will win this trophy this season if Arsenal miss it again.
How is Liverpool sitting comfortably in first position when they are just ahead of Arsenal, which is in second position with just two points? Any slight mistake by Liverpool will drop them from their current first position, so I won't say they are sitting confidently in first position. Let's see how they perform in their coming matches.
Liverpool is definitely in the title race, what i like most about their title charge this season is how they have gone about it with little to no noise, at the start of the season everyone was looking at City and Arsenal only, and too many people were not giving Liverpool a chance at the title, maybe because of how bad they were last season. Having said that, Liverpool have proved that they can still challenge for the title, and yes they can win it, though imo City are my favorites to win the title and Liverpool would come second.
Liverpool in the tittle race position right now behind lead top standings position two points left from Arsenal but need consistency until the end of matches how possibility Liverpool can stop Manchester City dominance winning Premier League tittle last several years. Until matchday 19 have many teams in tittle race not only Liverpool but also have Arsenal, Aston Villa, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur with not many points left from each teams. But depend which one have stable performance and keep consistency in the winning trend get chance for winning premier league tittle in this season with usually Manchester City always win on many crucial match exactly last season success defeated Arsenal manager top standings more longer time.
Aston Villa and Tottenham are also fairly in as they are giving good performance even they are having not enough quality like top three but Liverpool and Manchester City could be at the another level, and we can't give any better prediction about winner with still we have 20 rounds to go which is really enough time for having too many changes.
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