Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 2390.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 24, 2023, 09:04:54 AM

It all started at the Manchester derby last month when the two had a difference of opinion and ended in a rift between the two. Reportedly, Raphael Varane is not happy that Erik ten Hag prefers Johny Evans over him and I am also a bit surprised why Raphael Varane is not starting again after recovering from injury. I think competition between players is quite natural, but throwing away Raphael Varane for Johny Evans or Harry Maguire in Manchester United's defense is a bit selfish. After Ronaldo, De Gea, Sancho, and now it's Raphael Varane's turn to be the target of this Dutch coach. Do you think Erik ten Hag's actions were correct? Or is he actually the source of chaos in the Red Devils squad?

You missed two players e.g. Sancho and Maguire.

I start to think these problems might be caused by Ten Hag's egoism, not always the players are wrong. Sooner or later it might be Bruno or Rashford because they're senior in this team or maybe every people in Manchester United is selfish.

Manchester United is like when Chelsea was still managed by Potter.

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These two games against Tottenham and Manchester City probably saved his ass Grin

These games in particular were the right results at the right time for him. If those were two more of those array of disappointments against some teams from the bottom table, I think Pochettino could have been fired by now. But with those two games he created a lot of hope for the team and also for the Chelsea owners. He now has the chance to take this streak against the top teams to the next stage with a win against Newcastle. That would be weird, beating the best teams and losing to the weakest teams.

I don't think Chelsea management will lose much faith in Pochettino before he finishes the season. Pochettino is starting to find a good formula for Chelsea's game and so far they are starting to get into good form. Everything seems to be starting to do as expected although I'm sure Pochettino really wants more, but at least Chelsea's game is starting to get better now.

The match against Newcastle will be good for Chelsea. Of course they hope to win at their opponent's home ground even though I'm sure Chelsea won't get it easily from Newcastle. I know Newcastle is still better than Chelsea, but Chelsea showed something great in the last two matches. They can handle the pressure against big teams like Liverpool and Manchester City, which means there is hope about a win against Newcastle.

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Everton knew how hard to achieve 10 points when we are entering at the middle of season. The chance for everton to be relegated became even bigger. this makes the club will be trying to defend its points.

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Everton are prepared to fight the Premier League over their recently imposed ten-point penalty and are confident that it will be drastically reduced or even rescinded, 90min understands.

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That has reminded me with what juventus did when it was receiving the first sanction. Juventus was also defending it then the club was able getting the points back again. Will it happen to the everton? We know that if everton has the right to defend itself but it has small chance for the club to rollback again its points. I hope everton will get back its points even thought the chance is quite small.

Let's see how it will be going on with everton.

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Erik Ten Hag and Raphael Varane's relationship has been damaged Sad

It all started at the Manchester derby last month when the two had a difference of opinion and ended in a rift between the two. Reportedly, Raphael Varane is not happy that Erik ten Hag prefers Johny Evans over him and I am also a bit surprised why Raphael Varane is not starting again after recovering from injury. I think competition between players is quite natural, but throwing away Raphael Varane for Johny Evans or Harry Maguire in Manchester United's defense is a bit selfish. After Ronaldo, De Gea, Sancho, and now it's Raphael Varane's turn to be the target of this Dutch coach. Do you think Erik ten Hag's actions were correct? Or is he actually the source of chaos in the Red Devils squad?

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 24, 2023, 07:33:02 AM

Chelsea go in to play Newcastle at St James Park and Newcastle is a team that has improved over the past two seasons and could hit on Chelsea with a good counter, I think Pochettino should try to hit those final nails on that defense building and then the attack and midfield will be able to steal all three points

Of course that's exactly what could happen because the match is going to look like Manchester City and Chelsea match that almost everyone was expecting Manchester City to win Chelsea but they ended up playing draw, so however these match Chelsea and Newcastle United will surprise everyone with the outcome of it because the two teams are in the same form, and however Chelsea are mostly good whenever they meet the bigger teams but when it comes to the club that are of the same performance with them they always finds it difficult to win.

So perhaps in as much as most persons are thinking Chelsea will win Newcastle United we should also consider that Newcastle United has made more winings than Chelsea and even on the premier League table they are far better than Chelsea.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 24, 2023, 07:55:03 AM

Pochettino is making good progress these days. Who would have thought they would collect 4 points in the Tottenham and Manchester City games recently? I would never expect such thing honestly but it happened. Besides Chelsea scored 4 goals in each one of these games which was even more surprising to see.

Chelsea weren't this much productive at scoring goals before but now they are one of such teams. I hope it isn't a temporary process. I expect some consistency from them to recover from their bad situation in the league. There is another tough away game against Newcastle so they had better prepare well for it.

These two games against Tottenham and Manchester City probably saved his ass Grin

These games in particular were the right results at the right time for him. If those were two more of those array of disappointments against some teams from the bottom table, I think Pochettino could have been fired by now. But with those two games he created a lot of hope for the team and also for the Chelsea owners. He now has the chance to take this streak against the top teams to the next stage with a win against Newcastle. That would be weird, beating the best teams and losing to the weakest teams.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 24, 2023, 07:55:03 AM

Pochettino is making good progress these days. Who would have thought they would collect 4 points in the Tottenham and Manchester City games recently? I would never expect such thing honestly but it happened. Besides Chelsea scored 4 goals in each one of these games which was even more surprising to see.

Chelsea weren't this much productive at scoring goals before but now they are one of such teams. I hope it isn't a temporary process. I expect some consistency from them to recover from their bad situation in the league. There is another tough away game against Newcastle so they had better prepare well for it.

With the game against Tottenham Hotspur, I won't say it was luck, the best side should have been Tottenham Hotspur but they couldn't be that at the end of the game due to Injuries and double man sent off from the pitch, this is not the first time Chelsea has dropped Tottenham from the top though! Lol!

Against Manchester City, they deserved the win but Pep Guardiola's men squeezed out with a point from that game. I was impressed with Chelsea during that game for the won the midfied and controlled the game. Whoever control's the midfied controls the game, with that they made good use of the wings. Shout out to Raheem Sterling for making Kyle Walker his granny and props to Cucurellla for holding and gauging Phil Foden down. It was a fair game and Anthony Taylor did his job well that evening.

Impressive display with Arsenal, they should keep better focus against big clubs to be winners. Against Newcastle, they would win but with a small number of goals.

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 24, 2023, 07:33:02 AM

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There is enthusiasm burning in the Chelsea squad after they had the best momentum to beat Tottenham and force Manchester City to a draw. Pochettino managed to get points in these two matches even though it was actually luck. It doesn't matter about that because there is still hard work that deserves appreciation, but Pochettino should not be satisfied with what they have got in the last few matches.

Chelsea's defense has not been good and they are still very fragile. Confidence and good organization of play have helped them get into the shape they were expected to be in, but Newcastle have once again not been a weak team in the last two seasons. Newcastle are playing at home and they can take advantage of that to gain an advantage, while Chelsea will have to fight to stay in line with what has been planned. This match will be exciting and it would be great if both teams score, but the probabilities for both seem very even.

Chelsea has really showed improvement than their last season’s performance and you can see that in their matches with Top six clubs this season as amongst four they’ve managed to harness six points of possible twelve. Yes, we might say luck but we must commend their hardwork and Pochettino being able to build the confidence of these young players, that not withstanding, in all of these four fixtures, they’ve not kept a clean sheet yet, which means the team is still shaky.

I don't know about other users here, or what they think, but for me personally, I think and feel that for Chelsea, their good performances of late have gone past the stage we can simply attribute their success to luck alone, no no.
I think they have naturally improved in their game play overall, this is why they seem to be performing incredibly well even against top clubs that primarily, were suppose to easily beat them(Chelsea).

I am personally looking forward to seeing them climb to the top five or seven atleast, by the end of this season, but this is if they continue with their current good performance of course.

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Chelsea go in to play Newcastle at St James Park and Newcastle is a team that has improved over the past two seasons and could hit on Chelsea with a good counter, I think Pochettino should try to hit those final nails on that defense building and then the attack and midfield will be able to steal all three points

Well, you are completely right, and for me personally again, I believe that if they(Chelsea) could hold down Newcastle the same way they held down Manchester city In their last encounter, they(Chelsea) may likely walk away from that match celebrating as the winners, but again, I am not betting a dime on them, I am just gonna watch, Chelsea is still too frigile to trust with a bet.

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 24, 2023, 07:33:02 AM

Chelsea has really showed improvement than their last season’s performance and you can see that in their matches with Top 6 clubs this season as amongst 4 they’ve managed to harness 6 points of possible 12.

Yes, we might say luck but we must commend their hardwork and Poch’s being able to build the confidence of these young players. That not withstanding, in all of these 4 fixtures; they’ve not kept a clean sheet yet, which means the team is still shaky

Chelsea go in to play Newcastle at St James Park and Newcastle is a team that has improved over the past 2 seasons and could hit on Chelsea with a good counter. I think Poch should try to hit those final nails on that defense building and then the attack and midfield will be able to steal all 3 points

Yeah based on statistics, Chelsea has improved from last season even though at the start of this season they played badly, slowly everything can be resolved I think this is positive progress. If Chelsea does it consistently so Chelsea has the potential to become a competitor for other top teams, apart from that this is the ideal time for the coach to evaluate the team because in a few months the transfer window will open, this means that Chelsea can bring in new players to complete the squad. I personally hope Chelsea will bring in players for the defense line.

Regarding Newcastle vs Chelsea, I just checked the betting markets it seems the bookie doesn't favor any of them the odds for both teams are the same @2.6 for Newcastle and @2.55 for Chelsea I will not choose one of them but for betting I will consider both teams to score @1.65 if we bet YES this is not a bad option right? Newcastle and Chelsea are both hunting for points, therefore I predict both teams will score each other, what do you think about Both teams to score?

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Pochettino is making good progress these days. Who would have thought they would collect 4 points in the Tottenham and Manchester City games recently? I would never expect such thing honestly but it happened. Besides Chelsea scored 4 goals in each one of these games which was even more surprising to see.

Chelsea weren't this much productive at scoring goals before but now they are one of such teams. I hope it isn't a temporary process. I expect some consistency from them to recover from their bad situation in the league. There is another tough away game against Newcastle so they had better prepare well for it.

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I agree with you that Newcastle United is not stable this season unlike the way they were last season, this is because they are playing in the Uefa Champions League, and they are not used to such a situation. I think if they don't qualify for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League they will be consistent in winning matches in the Premier League. Liverpool might be able to get a point from Manchester City at Etihad Stadium because Manchester City is not at their best form this season.

Yes Newcastle are not used to playing in the Champions League, and by playing in the Chmpions League, their schedule becomes much busier than usual. But it was good for them as a very valuable experience, because Necastle is currently a team that has the potential to return to the Champions League next season.
Their focus is divided, and in the Champions League itself I am very sure they will try their best to get a good experience as well. Even though they are now at the bottom of the standings, their chances are still open to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League.

Restarting their existence in the Champions League will certainly not be easy for Eddie Howe troops, but this will also make them more mature and start to get used to playing against strong clubs. So far, Newcastle performance should be appreciated. If they fail to qualify for the group phase, Newcastle can try again next season. Little by little, Newcastle is reintroducing itself to the Champions League. Regarding its performance in the Premier League last season Newcastle performed normally and was able to secure a ticket, but this season the competition in the top 4 of the Premier League is getting tighter after Liverpool's return, which has slightly changed the atmosphere of the weekend, getting hotter.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 24, 2023, 07:25:26 AM

Pochettino doesn't seem confused anymore and he will definitely have put together the right formation against Newcastle and will definitely try to steal full points.

IMO, the match against Newcastle will be the key for Chelsea ... will they truly make a comeback and be ready to shake up the top 4, or is it all just bullshit?

If Chelsea wins, at least by a margin of two goals against Newcastle, it strongly suggests that Chelsea is poised to return to the top 4 and compete with Man City, Liverpool, and Spurs. However, if they lose, it's worth reconsidering because that would confirm Chelsea as a truly unstable team.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on November 24, 2023, 06:05:11 AM

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I am worried about how the Newcastle team will play against Cheslea. The Chelsea team has shown great dominance in their last two matches. On the other hand it is Newcastle's home match. Newcastle at home will not want to drop points. And so it will be a tough task for Chelsea to get points in this match.

It looks like the bookies are starting to see Chelsea as a strong team and not underestimating them anymore, thanks to their performance in the early part of the season, which was pretty rough. The odds offered suggest that Chelsea is slightly favored over Newcastle, especially since the match is happening at St James Park. If it were at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea's odds could easily be around x1.8 or a maximum of x2.0.

It's caused by bookies were learning from the previous matches. Chelsea was always getting draw against almost all of big clubs in EPL and there's no club that was able beating it. Bookies are thinking that if chelsea is now being favored to win the game.
It's hard to pick but i will try to secure a safe bet by picking double chance. Over 2.5 is also making sense but it's too risky since i was taking the multi bet.

Quote from: bayu7adi on November 24, 2023, 06:05:11 AM

This match is really hard to predict... Chelsea still hasn't completely won me over, even though their performance is gradually getting better. The return of some players from injury might be the key to the top-notch performance Chelsea could display.

At least we can predict it through using the potential line up. Chelsea has no important players who have been suffering injury while newcaslte as too many players were injured and it's even more than 10 players which are very bad for newcastle.
I think that chelsea may be making a slight change toward the line up. It seems like that mudryk will be fully playing against newcastle along with sterling and palmer. I can't predict which line up is going to be used by newcastle.

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 24, 2023, 03:44:42 AM

There is enthusiasm burning in the Chelsea squad after they had the best momentum to beat Tottenham and force Manchester City to a draw. Pochettino managed to get points in these two matches even though it was actually luck. It doesn't matter about that because there is still hard work that deserves appreciation, but Pochettino should not be satisfied with what they have got in the last few matches.

Chelsea's defense has not been good and they are still very fragile. Confidence and good organization of play have helped them get into the shape they were expected to be in, but Newcastle have once again not been a weak team in the last two seasons. Newcastle are playing at home and they can take advantage of that to gain an advantage, while Chelsea will have to fight to stay in line with what has been planned. This match will be exciting and it would be great if both teams score, but the probabilities for both seem very even.

Chelsea has really showed improvement than their last season’s performance and you can see that in their matches with Top six clubs this season as amongst four they’ve managed to harness six points of possible twelve. Yes, we might say luck but we must commend their hardwork and Pochettino being able to build the confidence of these young players, that not withstanding, in all of these four fixtures, they’ve not kept a clean sheet yet, which means the team is still shaky.

Chelsea go in to play Newcastle at St James Park and Newcastle is a team that has improved over the past two seasons and could hit on Chelsea with a good counter, I think Pochettino should try to hit those final nails on that defense building and then the attack and midfield will be able to steal all three points

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Quote from: Tony116 on November 24, 2023, 05:28:37 AM

Newcastle have a very busy schedule this season. And Newcastle players are not used to playing so many matches. It is very difficult to perform consistently well in the Champions League and Premier League at the same time. However, Newcastle's players continued to try. Although their performance is somewhat erratic, their performance is not weak.

I am worried about how the Newcastle team will play against Cheslea. The Chelsea team has shown great dominance in their last two matches. On the other hand it is Newcastle's home match. Newcastle at home will not want to drop points. And so it will be a tough task for Chelsea to get points in this match.

The bookies may also not favor Newcastle in the match against Chelsea tomorrow. Because actually Newcastle's squad is not at full strength at the moment. Because as far as I know, there are around 8 injured players in the Newcastle squad, such as;
- Harvey Barnes (Foot injury)
- Sven Botman (knee injury)
- Alexander Isak (groin injury)
- Jacob Murphy (Shoulder Injury)
- Elliot Anderson (Back Injury)
- Matt Targett (Hamstring Injury)
- And Burn (Back injury)
- Callum Wilson (Hamstring injury).

And there are also several players who have been banned from playing. But what is most widely known is that Tonali is suspended. So this condition has really caused Newcastle to experience a slight decline in performance in their last few matches. So I wouldn't be surprised if Newcastle will have a little difficulty facing Chelsea in this match.

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This match is really hard to predict... Chelsea still hasn't completely won me over, even though their performance is gradually getting better. The return of some players from injury might be the key to the top-notch performance Chelsea could display.

If the performance shown against Manchester City can be maintained, then there is a big chance that Chelsea can beat Newcastle in the match played at St James Park. Moreover, several players have returned from injury so there is no reason for Mauricio Pochettino not to be able to beat Newcastle if Chelsea wants to move up to the top 4 of the Premier League standings.

However, Chelsea's performance when holding Manchester City with a big score was a very good result and it can increase the players' confidence ahead of the match against Newcastle later. It seems that away matches are not a problem for Chelsea as long as they can provide the same resistance against Manchester City and indeed the return of Chelsea players who have recovered from injuries will make them even stronger. Pochettino doesn't seem confused anymore and he will definitely have put together the right formation against Newcastle and will definitely try to steal full points.

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I remember the game of Liverpool against Newcastle when they were playing away and they were even with 10 men yet they managed to equalize from 2-0 to 2-2 at that game where Newcastle was at top performance at that time.Based on this no matter that Liverpool is playing against Manchester City I would not write them off from a big,huge surprise if they are able to win at Etihad stadium,statistics are good to be shown but I don't think we should rely to much on them because the teams are not the same as they were years before.I think a draw would be the most likely result during this game.

Newcastle this season is not the best example, because their game is not as stable as it was before and perhaps you are confusing something, because in the match with Newcastle Van Dijk get red card, and Liverpool was able to win this match 1-2 despite the fact that they I had to play most of the match with ten men.

It will be difficult for Liverpool at the Etihad, perhaps more difficult than any other team, but they have a chance to take points from City. Liverpool is a team of mood, you need to watch how they start the match.

I agree with you that Newcastle United is not stable this season unlike the way they were last season, this is because they are playing in the Uefa Champions League, and they are not used to such a situation. I think if they don't qualify for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League they will be consistent in winning matches in the Premier League. Liverpool might be able to get a point from Manchester City at Etihad Stadium because Manchester City is not at their best form this season.

Newcastle have a very busy schedule this season. And Newcastle players are not used to playing so many matches. It is very difficult to perform consistently well in the Champions League and Premier League at the same time. However, Newcastle's players continued to try. Although their performance is somewhat erratic, their performance is not weak.

I am worried about how the Newcastle team will play against Cheslea. The Chelsea team has shown great dominance in their last two matches. On the other hand it is Newcastle's home match. Newcastle at home will not want to drop points. And so it will be a tough task for Chelsea to get points in this match.

It's the first time for Newcastle they played in the Champions League and this team is as inexperienced in playing for different tournaments as they are right now and that's why there is the possibility for Newcastle to have a bad performance in Premier League, also, since they have super-rich owners I was expecting to see their owners spending too much money for this team and give them more players because of the hard games they are going to have but they didn't do that.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on November 24, 2023, 06:05:11 AM

Quote from: Tony116 on November 24, 2023, 05:28:37 AM

I am worried about how the Newcastle team will play against Cheslea. The Chelsea team has shown great dominance in their last two matches. On the other hand it is Newcastle's home match. Newcastle at home will not want to drop points. And so it will be a tough task for Chelsea to get points in this match.

It looks like the bookies are starting to see Chelsea as a strong team and not underestimating them anymore, thanks to their performance in the early part of the season, which was pretty rough. The odds offered suggest that Chelsea is slightly favored over Newcastle, especially since the match is happening at St James Park. If it were at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea's odds could easily be around x1.8 or a maximum of x2.0.

This match is really hard to predict... Chelsea still hasn't completely won me over, even though their performance is gradually getting better. The return of some players from injury might be the key to the top-notch performance Chelsea could display.

I didn't check the bookies to see whether they made some adjustments to the odds for this game, but good you share this one because that is highly interesting. In the past months it was sometimes worth a bet against Chelsea when they played against some of the weak teams in the Premier League. It wasn't necessarily to bet on a loss, but to bet on Chelsea not winning the game and it turned out quite profitable sometimes. But the bookies sticked to their calculations and often gave Chelsea the favorite role. Since they now do the same against Newcastle, I wonder how deeply they went into the details to come up with these odds and favor Chelsea over Newcastle in Newcastle Roll Eyes

I know that it is numerically only, but still there is this 1% of an edge that they see Chelsea being ahead.

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With the kind of display Chelsea had against Manchester city before the international break, there's not supposed to be doubts if Chelsea can win Newcastle United. It is just because Chelsea has been on the lane of inconsistency for 2 seasons now, there's no need to trust them because of a week wonder.

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This match is really hard to predict... Chelsea still hasn't completely won me over, even though their performance is gradually getting better. The return of some players from injury might be the key to the top-notch performance Chelsea could display.

If the performance shown against Manchester City can be maintained, then there is a big chance that Chelsea can beat Newcastle in the match played at St James Park. Moreover, several players have returned from injury so there is no reason for Mauricio Pochettino not to be able to beat Newcastle if Chelsea wants to move up to the top 4 of the Premier League standings.

Considering that Chelsea injured players are returning to play and also considering that Newcastle more players are being injured, Chelsea stands a good chance of winning the match between them and Newcastle United.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on November 24, 2023, 06:05:11 AM

This match is really hard to predict... Chelsea still hasn't completely won me over, even though their performance is gradually getting better. The return of some players from injury might be the key to the top-notch performance Chelsea could display.

If the performance shown against Manchester City can be maintained, then there is a big chance that Chelsea can beat Newcastle in the match played at St James Park. Moreover, several players have returned from injury so there is no reason for Mauricio Pochettino not to be able to beat Newcastle if Chelsea wants to move up to the top 4 of the Premier League standings.

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