Arteta is showing better management at Arsenal than last year. Manchester City could not achieve last year's dominance this year. From what I have observed, with the departure of İlkay Gündoğan, they are not as effective in the midfield as before, and when Kevin De Bruyne gets injured, the dynamics of the team are disrupted. They had problems in the last two matches. Arsenal are in a better situation now and they got a morale boost with the win over City.
At the start of last season, Arsenal also played very well and they even dominated the top of the standings until more than the middle of the season. It's just that they seemed to lose control in the middle of the season to the end, so they could be overtaken by Man City, which incidentally was very on fire at that time. Don't let this season be the same, this will be tough homework for Arteta and Arsenal as a whole. Meanwhile, Man City experienced a decline in performance during this season because they were losing their key players, especially De Bruyne. Furthermore, Rodri was also absent. So this really has a big influence on Man City's overall performance. However, if both of them return, they will definitely be even stronger. Although we cannot guarantee that De Bruyne will actually return to his normal performance or not. 
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Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
Arteta is showing better management at Arsenal than last year. Manchester City could not achieve last year's dominance this year. From what I have observed, with the departure of İlkay Gündoğan, they are not as effective in the midfield as before, and when Kevin De Bruyne gets injured, the dynamics of the team are disrupted. They had problems in the last two matches. Arsenal are in a better situation now and they got a morale boost with the win over City.
Manchester City still have the firepower even against Arsenal they displayed a lot of it. Arsenal where more defensive and containing the city side, while city where more aggressive in the attack. Of course I will give it to arteta for his brilliant performance, at least it was much better than last season. Also for city side, these guys have been on the winning side week in week out, i believe most of their players might as well suffer from fatigue, and it's natural in football because if Kevin De Bruyne had been on that midfield, trust me we will be having a different conversation here, because Arsenal where really on the lucky side of that game.
Losing a game against Arsenal can't prove anything for Manchester City and their players because even in the last season when Manchester City in the Premier League title, they didn't have a good performance in the first weeks compared the teams like Arsnal but time after time they got improved and in the end the won the title. Pep Guardiola is experienced enough to win this tournament again.
On paper Arsenal should be able to beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge, their relatively stable performance this season reached its peak when they managed to beat Man City. On the other hand, Chelsea is just showing signs of a revival in performance after experiencing ups and downs, they achieved positive results in the last two matches over Fulham and Burnley. Chelsea and Arsenal have almost equal squad depth, but the strength of the two clubs so far is very different, Arsenal sits in second place while Chelsea is ranked eleventh. In short, Arsenal has a better and bigger chance of getting three points, for Chelsea the most realistic target is to hold Arsenal to a draw.
On the other hand, this London derby match will only be held after the second period of the international break, Arteta and Pochettino have lots of time to prepare everything for their respective teams. It is possible that several injured Chelsea players will be available again, but of course it would be too risky if Pochettino immediately made them starters in the starting XI when facing Arsenal.
On the other hand, this London derby match will only be held after the second period of the international break, Arteta and Pochettino have lots of time to prepare everything for their respective teams. It is possible that several injured Chelsea players will be available again, but of course it would be too risky if Pochettino immediately made them starters in the starting XI when facing Arsenal.
Just because Chelsea has won their past two games does not mean that I would assume that they would be able to compete with Arsenal to even draw the game, regardless of what they could play or how good they are becoming with their performances. Although anything can happen in football, but it won't happen with a club like Chelsea, Because I wasn't expecting Arsenal to defeat Manchester City but they did so because Man City players were out, I can only guess that if Nkunku returns to Chelsea, Chelsea's performances might be stronger than they have been. However, even if he plays against Arsenal, it will still be difficult to predict whether Chelsea will win or draw. Pochettino have a big long way to go.
Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
As said, both of them are pillars of Man City, they are key players in Man City apart from Haaland. Man City has been weakened since De Bruyne was injured, and he was injured for a long time, even though we could say, he is the brain of Man City. And not only that, while De Bruyne hasn't recovered, they also have to play without their mainstay defensive midfielder, Rodri. This is a quite significant problem for Man City. Yes, even though they have a very strong Haaland up front, with the absence of these two key players, they still cannot be optimal. This is a challenge for Man City, especially since they have lost in a row, and the peak was in the match against their toughest rival club, Arsenal, they also had to submit even with just 1 goal. Pep Guardiola must think more carefully about anticipating this in the future without these two players, not only in the EPL but also in the UCL. Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
I think every player in that Manchester city team is important but they’re key players that makes the team better like Rodrigo and Kevin Debruyne. But Manchester city is a team with a many experienced players that can make things work in the absence of these key figures. It’s still surprising that they’ve lost all 3 games without Rodrigo and I don’t think their absence is the determining factor but their performance is declining and it’s not the same as of last season. Something isn’t right with the Manchester city team. 
I think this is still not seen because the beginning of the season until towards the end of the season last year Arsenal were also very good it's just that Arsenal's problem in the last few seasons has remained the same with them not really being able to make their consistency last for a season and last season was also like that.
The rise in their performance at the beginning of the season and mid-season was not accompanied by a good performance at the end of the season so it seems that the increase and decrease in their performance can happen quickly and no one can predict it.
If at the end of this season they are like that I think the management still hasn't changed but we still have to continue to wait whether something like this will happen or not.
The rise in their performance at the beginning of the season and mid-season was not accompanied by a good performance at the end of the season so it seems that the increase and decrease in their performance can happen quickly and no one can predict it.
If at the end of this season they are like that I think the management still hasn't changed but we still have to continue to wait whether something like this will happen or not.
Yes Arsenal had a very poor end to last season after starting well just like this season, many fans are still holding on to that excuse that they are not genuine contenders. I will also agree that we should wait till then but I will draw my conclusions from their performances so far. One thing Arteta needed to handle in the summer was to increase the squad with better players that can come in and change a game. Players like Rice and Timber were better signings to Cover in the midfield and defense. Last season this was what caused them the league, the Saliba injury and also Partey’s. This two accusations with that of Harvetz who is versatile will provide them much needed depth if the players are fit. Although they should have added a new striker too
I also noticed that Arsenal This season can actually defend a single goal lead to win a game. Last season they dropped points more when they were in winning position and that was what cost them the league. But this season I have seen them hold on to the win with just one goal deficit
Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
Arteta is showing better management at Arsenal than last year. Manchester City could not achieve last year's dominance this year. From what I have observed, with the departure of İlkay Gündoğan, they are not as effective in the midfield as before, and when Kevin De Bruyne gets injured, the dynamics of the team are disrupted. They had problems in the last two matches. Arsenal are in a better situation now and they got a morale boost with the win over City.
The rise in their performance at the beginning of the season and mid-season was not accompanied by a good performance at the end of the season so it seems that the increase and decrease in their performance can happen quickly and no one can predict it.
If at the end of this season they are like that I think the management still hasn't changed but we still have to continue to wait whether something like this will happen or not.
Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
Arteta is showing better management at Arsenal than last year. Manchester City could not achieve last year's dominance this year. From what I have observed, with the departure of İlkay Gündoğan, they are not as effective in the midfield as before, and when Kevin De Bruyne gets injured, the dynamics of the team are disrupted. They had problems in the last two matches. Arsenal are in a better situation now and they got a morale boost with the win over City.
Manchester City still have the firepower even against Arsenal they displayed a lot of it. Arsenal where more defensive and containing the city side, while city where more aggressive in the attack. Of course I will give it to arteta for his brilliant performance, at least it was much better than last season. Also for city side, these guys have been on the winning side week in week out, i believe most of their players might as well suffer from fatigue, and it's natural in football because if Kevin De Bruyne had been on that midfield, trust me we will be having a different conversation here, because Arsenal where really on the lucky side of that game.
In the next match week, three matches catch my eye. These are City vs Brighton, Chelsea vs Arsenal and Aston Villa vs West Ham. I think these matches are more important than the other matches and I think they can be more quality matches in terms of viewing pleasure. Although Chelsea is out of form and trying to recover, I expect that they will show resistance against a championship candidate team. On the other hand, I hope that we will see plenty of goals in the other 2 matches I mentioned except the Chelsea-Arsenal match.
Every Club will have to prepare very well since they'll have some players present not called for international duties.
I'm more concerned about the London derby game between Chelsea and Arsenal. Chelsea football club have been seen thriving of late, with three successful wins across the last five games they have played, they have taken a bold step forward finding a good form. Same winnings, draw ans lose for Arsenal too. It's obvious that they would get to share the points together.
Arsenal will not get the better of this game when they eventually meet.
Manchester City would be at home but I would love a positive response after three lose in the last four games, it's been a rough one for Pep Guardiola. Manchester United away facing Sheffield United tough but United wins.
There will also be another derby, ( Liverpool against Everton ) Liverpool has always had more wins, bet would be on Toffees to win!
With Pep noticing the importance of these players and how their absence can seriously affect the teams performance, he is a smart man and will not want to remain limited to them, so that if there is another time like this this season in all the competitions they play were they have to be without Rodri, that their team will still be able to maintain their high performance. This two losses in the premier league does not mean that they cannot still go on to win the premier league again, it just shows that they are not very strong this season.
Manchester City are in the race to win EPL this season, they have declined in performance but all hope are not lost because the club is built on strong foundation by Pep Guardiola. He's dependent on these crucial players, scouting for backup replacement for them for the future purposes. Pep is not relenting as he's making good efforts to make things better for his team, targeting ultimate priorities for the citizens. Unfortunately the team is about to crumbled due to the absence of key players on the pitch, Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodrigo Hernández Cascante are important for the team, perhaps sooner they will return back to the squad and make positive impact. 
Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
I don't agree with this idea fully although there is some level of accuracy but then it's usually a team work, we still have the likes of haland who does the finishing after all said and done by de bruyne and rodri at the front lines, they are very valued players in Manchester city but the team cannot be said to be over hyped without them as the team tries their best even in their absence.As in the case of Arsenal vs Manchester city, I don't think their absence was the main reason Manchester city lost that game, tho its effect was seen but then Manchester tried their possible best to balance the game throughout, as seen in the first half of the game where haland was seen trying to make way to get a goal but then arsenal was at alert enough not to allow them get a goal and arsenal is at their peak currently and playing from home.
All this were advantage they had which couldn't be underestimated as compared to Manchester city who was playing in the absence of two of their best but they were able to hold Arsenal down enough not to get more than a goal and Arsenal had leaser goal chances as did Manchester city so that game shouldn't be used to judge the strength of Manchester city and attaching it to the absence of those two players as Manchester city remains good with or without bruyne and rodri as proven in other games.
Arsenal achievements this season in the EPL as a whole are phenomenal, Arteta managed to make Arsenal recover and forget about the defeat to Lens by beating the defending EPL and UCL champions namely Man City. A victory that had been waiting for quite a long time, and it was natural for their fans to celebrate as if they were already champions. Arsenal efforts to win the EPL trophy last season failed, this season Arteta squad is considered stronger with better squad depth. Their new recruits such as Declan Rice and Harvertz have had an instant impact on improving Arsenal performance and stability, it would not be wrong to position Arsenal as a contender for the EPL championship this season.
What Arsenal need to try is to maintain focus when the season is almost over, so as not to lose points in the match that determines the championship trophy as was felt last season. However, the Man City squad will certainly try to get back up to defend the trophy, Pep is certainly not happy with the two consecutive defeats.
What Arsenal need to try is to maintain focus when the season is almost over, so as not to lose points in the match that determines the championship trophy as was felt last season. However, the Man City squad will certainly try to get back up to defend the trophy, Pep is certainly not happy with the two consecutive defeats.
It is not surprising that Arsenal is Manchester City's main competitor in the race for the title because last season both teams did it too it's just that Arsenal wasted that opportunity when there were only a few games left in the season, this season Arsenal still have a chance but we don't know if they will make the same mistake at the end of the season. Regarding Manchester City we cannot speculate because the Premier League has only had 8 matches and there are still 30 games remaining I mean anything can happen even something we never thought about.
Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
It cannot be denied that Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri play an important role in the Man City squad, Pep does not have a suitable cover for the two of them in the current squad, ultimately causing them to suffer two consecutive defeats in the EPL. On the other hand, Arsenal is indeed in top form and has not been defeated in the EPL, their positive trend gives them confidence when facing Man City, and they get full support from fans because they play at the Emirates.Arteta is showing better management at Arsenal than last year. Manchester City could not achieve last year's dominance this year. From what I have observed, with the departure of İlkay Gündoğan, they are not as effective in the midfield as before, and when Kevin De Bruyne gets injured, the dynamics of the team are disrupted. They had problems in the last two matches. Arsenal are in a better situation now and they got a morale boost with the win over City.
Considering that the EPL is very competitive, several players who have experienced a decline in performance due to increasing age, such as Gundogan, must be released, apart from streamlining the squad, the aim is also to regenerate younger players. I think Man City current situation is not as bad as Man United and Chelsea, which are both elite clubs, after the international break I think Pep can bring Man City back to winning ways. What an incredible story for Arsenal, they finally beat Manchester City in the premier league after so many years and also Arteta finally beating the master tactician Pep in the premier league. Arsenal supporters celebrated this win like they have finally won the league, it just showed how much the win meant to them. It was an interesting game and equally interesting result.
Arsenal achievements this season in the EPL as a whole are phenomenal, Arteta managed to make Arsenal recover and forget about the defeat to Lens by beating the defending EPL and UCL champions namely Man City. A victory that had been waiting for quite a long time, and it was natural for their fans to celebrate as if they were already champions. Arsenal efforts to win the EPL trophy last season failed, this season Arteta squad is considered stronger with better squad depth. Their new recruits such as Declan Rice and Harvertz have had an instant impact on improving Arsenal performance and stability, it would not be wrong to position Arsenal as a contender for the EPL championship this season.What Arsenal need to try is to maintain focus when the season is almost over, so as not to lose points in the match that determines the championship trophy as was felt last season. However, the Man City squad will certainly try to get back up to defend the trophy, Pep is certainly not happy with the two consecutive defeats.
Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded.
With Pep noticing the importance of these players and how their absence can seriously affect the teams performance, he is a smart man and will not want to remain limited to them, so that if there is another time like this this season in all the competitions they play were they have to be without Rodri, that their team will still be able to maintain their high performance. This two losses in the premier league does not mean that they cannot still go on to win the premier league again, it just shows that they are not very strong this season. 
Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
Arteta is showing better management at Arsenal than last year. Manchester City could not achieve last year's dominance this year. From what I have observed, with the departure of İlkay Gündoğan, they are not as effective in the midfield as before, and when Kevin De Bruyne gets injured, the dynamics of the team are disrupted. They had problems in the last two matches. Arsenal are in a better situation now and they got a morale boost with the win over City.
Of course, Arsenal will not be happy with this break because the whole team has found unity. They were in harmony and won the victory by playing more ambitiously against Manchester City, who took the league cup from them last year. Pep's student Arteta once again showed that he did not waste his self-confidence with this victory. As a good week leaves behind in the Premier League, this defeat of Manchester City will remain in our minds.
The break cannot in anywhere affect their unity. If they are as good as they proved to us when they defeated Manchester City, they should have no problems with their playing style even after the break. I was overjoyed for Arsenal, and they deserved to win. This game was one of many deciders for the Premier League title this season. If they can maintain this level of performance to the end, their opponents will be unable to compete with them in the season's final games.
United has absolutely no way that they could fight for the top four, I believe that it will not be anywhere near that level and they should not be considering that as an option neither. I think it's clear that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit different and should be something that will look a bit differently. I hope that people could approach this subject clearly because United has shown everyone how terrible they are and because of that if you still have hopes about them then you are going to be pretty upset about it by the end of the season as well.
You should see what the yare showing you, and how terrible they are and then accept the fact that they are not going to do well at all. They will end u with a position that would be better than this for sure, but not much better, I am guessing a sixth place would be more than what they bargain for so far and I think would be the best thing they could do at this point as well.
You should see what the yare showing you, and how terrible they are and then accept the fact that they are not going to do well at all. They will end u with a position that would be better than this for sure, but not much better, I am guessing a sixth place would be more than what they bargain for so far and I think would be the best thing they could do at this point as well.
You make an excellent point, but we can't base our decisions on what we currently observe for this team. Since football is unpredictable, their league performance should be evaluated over time. There is still time for this team to improve, and I am sure they are working on it. It is quite unusual for a team to start poorly and finish poorly; there is usually a turnaround in the performance they put into the game at some point along the way, and I'm sure Manchester United's situation will be no exception. With their recent performance, they could finish up in sixth place, as you suggested, but if they perform better, they will end up in a higher position.
Manchester City without Kelvin De Bruyne and Rodri is an overhyped team. The absence of both players have had a negative impact on the team’s performance in the last three games including defeat to Arsenal this weekend which is the most recent lose they have conceded. Gabriel Martinelli’s goal was enough to give Arsenal a win. Arsenal will treasure this win, the team have worked hard to come this far, good work to Mikel Arteta, trusting the process is finally paying off.
What an incredible story for Arsenal, they finally beat Manchester City in the premier league after so many years and also Arteta finally beating the master tactician Pep in the premier league. Arsenal supporters celebrated this win like they have finally won the league, it just showed how much the win meant to them. It was an interesting game and equally interesting result.
It was something of a joy to Arsenal fans on Sunday because they have been suffering defeats from Manchester City since December 2015. Manchester City has been winning against Arsenal both home and away, which is why they are happy with yesterday’s win at Emirate Stadium. Manchester City were not happy with the result because they think Arsenal players will make the errors they are used to making while playing against them.
The match was boring from the beginning due to the respect both teams have for others, and none of them wanted to concede a goal first, but at the end, Mikel Argeta’s bench substitutes provided the difference in the match. This has shown that Arsenal's bench is strong, and Arsenal can now have confidence to face any team in the world.
We'll see that when Manchester City face Brighton. It's not an easy match either and when Pep still can't anticipate losing Rodri and KDB in midfield then it could be a big problem just like before.
Manchester City have players who have above-average skills and no one doubts that but when they lose a good initiator and organizer of attacks from midfield then indeed their good players are a little covered because the rhythm they are tryng to build is not going well.
Haaland will have to try harder in the match against Brighton because the opposing players know that when Haaland is released, it will be dangerous for them so full guard will definitely happen again for this player.
Guardiola admitting that one of the caused why Manchester City lose from Arsenal last week is because the absense of Rodri and besides that with the injured of De Bruyne also make Haaland performance a bit decrease which make he was looks difficult to scores in the last few matches and this also had affected to the performance of Manchester City because we all know for front lines Manchester City was too rely on Halland to scores goals so often and about their upcoming match against Brighton actually Brighton condition is similar to them even worst because after lose with big scores from Aston Villa then Brighton seems feel difficult to bounce back and after seeing these conditions i think Manchester City will be able return to winning ways and beat BrightonManchester City have players who have above-average skills and no one doubts that but when they lose a good initiator and organizer of attacks from midfield then indeed their good players are a little covered because the rhythm they are tryng to build is not going well.
Haaland will have to try harder in the match against Brighton because the opposing players know that when Haaland is released, it will be dangerous for them so full guard will definitely happen again for this player.
Since they have suffered two defeats in the last two league matches, they will definitely go into the match to win against Brighton. I think the favorite of the match is definitely Manchester City. Of course, it is not right to talk before the match is played, but since they have been defeated in the last 2 league matches, it is clear that they will try to make us forget this. It could be a match to help Haaland get fit.
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