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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 18, 2023, 05:54:21 AM

De Gea has been at Man Utd since he was a very young man. I think he joined when he was 19, that’s 12 long years. I don’t think many foreign players stay at one club that long. Maybe he needs a new challenge, perhaps he wants to go back to Spain. I think Man Utd fans should respect his service to the club and wish him well, whatever he decides to do. The decline of Man Utd since Fergie left has nothing to do with him.

Yes, you are right that De Gea's dedication while playing there must be respected by all Manchester United supporters because what I have seen in some media are many rumors regarding De Gea's future, whose contract will expire at the end of this month and so far there has been no agreement between Manchester United and the striker. goalkeeper. if De Gea moves to another club and leaves Manchester United, of course it will be a new experience for him.

What's more, he has been with Manchester United for quite a while, so he needs additional flying hours and new experience in other leagues in order to become an experienced goalkeeper, plus Manchester United are reported to be recruiting Andre Onana from Inter Milan as a replacement for De Gea, 12 years is not a short time together Manchester United and of course I applaud him for staying there for that long.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 18, 2023, 05:54:21 AM

De Gea has been at Man Utd since he was a very young man. I think he joined when he was 19, that’s 12 long years. I don’t think many foreign players stay at one club that long. Maybe he needs a new challenge, perhaps he wants to go back to Spain. I think Man Utd fans should respect his service to the club and wish him well, whatever he decides to do. The decline of Man Utd since Fergie left has nothing to do with him.

De Gea has been great for Manchester United, i think everyone can agree on the fact that he has served them well, though what i have noticed from most Manchester United fans i know is that they do not want de Gea to be at the club next season, they want him to leave, and i think it is because these days de Gea makes costly mistakes that leads to goals against his team. It is understandable from the section of Manchester United fans, but the good things de Gea has done is far greater than his mistakes, and those mistakes isn't the reason why Manchester United haven't been successful for many years now.

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on June 18, 2023, 03:36:09 AM

If Mauricio Pochettino manages to improve the squad that Chelsea has and make Chelsea even better in the new season. Then his reputation would definitely rise by leaps and bounds. And vice versa if he fails to improve Chelsea into a better shape in a short time. So actually Mauricio Pochettino's reputation will not be reduced and there will be no loss at all. because we would all take it for granted. because not even Ten Heg and Potter were able to fix Chelsea last season.

But I personally am quite optimistic that Mauricio Pochettino will be able to improve Chelsea, even if little by little. But the problem is whether Todd Boehly will be patient to see his club grow slowly or instead he wants a much faster development that will put Mauricio Pochettino under pressure and it could be that this will make Chelsea's performance fall again. I want Todd Boehly to be more patient and give the new Chelsea coach more time. because to get maximum results certainly will not be achieved in a short time.

I agree with you, I think with some of the new decisions Pochettino has made changes to Chelsea, at least progressing little by little. Everyone including the Blues fans will be very happy if he manages to lift the team for the better and of course his reputation will get better in the Premier League. It's like putting all his skills and experience as a trainer to the test. There is no short time to achieve success, it all takes time for a process. I hope Todd and the Chelsea fans can be patient as it took Pochettino a long time to make progress, I see now he has enough time at least to make some changes and progress ahead of next season's Premier League start.

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De Gea has been at Man Utd since he was a very young man. I think he joined when he was 19, that’s 12 long years. I don’t think many foreign players stay at one club that long. Maybe he needs a new challenge, perhaps he wants to go back to Spain. I think Man Utd fans should respect his service to the club and wish him well, whatever he decides to do. The decline of Man Utd since Fergie left has nothing to do with him.

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Quote from: nara1892 on June 18, 2023, 04:40:09 AM

I agree, saying that David de Gea failed as goalkeeper for Manchester United, in my opinion, is not quite right, but I prefer to say that in his last season he was not able to perform optimally and made several fatal mistakes which resulted in losses for the team. But overall, as long as he's been in a Manchester United shirt I can say he deserves a lot between the sticks and that's not a mistake.
After all, David de Gea managed to show the best that is in him, especially during bad times, as you said during Ole's coaching, how he struggled in the defense of Manchester United.

Everyone does mistakes and De Gea does too but I don't think his contribution towards the club can be easily forgotten. He has pulled off lot of saves and I don't know but I think there will be points when other clubs interested in him but he still choose to play for United saving them lot of costs going out and looking for new goalkeeper and let alone secure it. Yeah he did mistakes but I don't think he deserves the sticks at all despite the contribution he made.

Right now, if you ask me there are only few goalkeepers that have been that committed to a club for such a long time. So in my books, despite the mistakes De Gea made I still consider him as one of the legend of the club.

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and this is a big sign of potential troubles for Manchester United because if they make the mistake of signing the wrong goalkeeper,

The worst thing that will happen to Manchester united is signing a wrong goal keeper, De Gea made some silly mistakes in the season that ended which really affected Manchester united, if they didn't sign a experienced goal keeper, then they are going to end the season in the position which they don't expect.

Wait what? are you kidding here?
It's ridiculous to say Manncehster United made the wrong signing in goalkeeper now that Manchester United have tasted De Gea's ability even more than a decade lol.
This season he has indeed made many blunders but look at what happened last season where he always struggled under the sticks of Manchester United and made some good saves from opponent attacks and even from attacks by his own teammates which were occasionally seen during the Ole Era at that time.
Indeed, this season he has made some fatal mistakes, especially in important matches, but in this case I think saying they (Manchester United) made the wrong signing in goalkeeper is a mistake because it's true that after 12 years De Gea has always been the first choice, it's clear that it's ridiculous to say it's a failure.

I agree, saying that David de Gea failed as goalkeeper for Manchester United, in my opinion, is not quite right, but I prefer to say that in his last season he was not able to perform optimally and made several fatal mistakes which resulted in losses for the team. But overall, as long as he's been in a Manchester United shirt I can say he deserves a lot between the sticks and that's not a mistake.
After all, David de Gea managed to show the best that is in him, especially during bad times, as you said during Ole's coaching, how he struggled in the defense of Manchester United.

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Indeed there is a need of making the squad better in this summer. I have talked about a need of a striker only but it isn't the only problem in this team of course. Besides they have actually signed Nkunku for the attacking line which would be a really nice improvement. But I don't know if they are planning to make do with this about striker transfer.

Apart from that I hope another thing not to happen. You know they signed Werner as well from Leipzig but there was no impressive performance left in him after coming to the Premier League. He was a great scorer in the Bundesliga. I hope the situation with Nkunku doesn't become similar to that as well.

They have a lot of failed purchases and it's just a waste of money they do. Of the many players they have brought in this season, how many players can make a big contribution? I can even say that not a single player has contributed this season.
Like it or not, they have to reshuffle, unless their new coach can convince that the existing players he can rely on and give something he wants with the strategy he has. But would he be able to do that, if not much change? I wouldn't say I could and I wouldn't say I couldn't either.

For example Mudryk has been brought here for 70 million euros. He played in quite many games with Chelsea this season but couldn't make a big contribution. I don't know maybe he has had adaptation problems but we would see whether it was really the reason by the beginning of next season. I agree that they couldn't benefit from their transfers very much after all the money spent.

Pochettino's job isn't going to be easy while trying to find the right game plan for this team. He will need to do an extra effort to improve the morale of the players as well after having a nightmare season. I'm at least feeling confident about he can't be worse than Potter. Grin

I think they will be in top 4 race if they make a decent start and keep a good form for a while.

In fact it's over 70 million if you look at it as a whole lol
But indeed, his performance so far is still far below average and even looking at the current conditions apart from him, who did attack each other with his fans on social media some time ago, nothing can be seen from his performance, so he has been criticized a lot, even by his fans. Alone.
Regardless of what Poche is doing now it's clear that everything comes with a risk so right now it's also like gambling for him whether or not he can bring Chelsea to a better place if he can then he'll be praised but if not then things won't be much different from Potter .

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 17, 2023, 05:06:41 PM

I can't wait to see Pochettino's performance in Chelsea because he joined the team at a moment when they don't have a good situation and the players are mostly disappointed, while still according to transfermarkt Chelsea is one the most expensive team in the premier league which can give them a good potential for the next season which is what Pochettino can use to take better place for Chelsea in the next season.

However, because of the current atmosphere in Chelsea, he needs to rebuild the team and needs to hard work there.

If Mauricio Pochettino manages to improve the squad that Chelsea has and make Chelsea even better in the new season. Then his reputation would definitely rise by leaps and bounds. And vice versa if he fails to improve Chelsea into a better shape in a short time. So actually Mauricio Pochettino's reputation will not be reduced and there will be no loss at all. because we would all take it for granted. because not even Ten Heg and Potter were able to fix Chelsea last season.

But I personally am quite optimistic that Mauricio Pochettino will be able to improve Chelsea, even if little by little. But the problem is whether Todd Boehly will be patient to see his club grow slowly or instead he wants a much faster development that will put Mauricio Pochettino under pressure and it could be that this will make Chelsea's performance fall again. I want Todd Boehly to be more patient and give the new Chelsea coach more time. because to get maximum results certainly will not be achieved in a short time.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 17, 2023, 03:26:28 AM

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Indeed there is a need of making the squad better in this summer. I have talked about a need of a striker only but it isn't the only problem in this team of course. Besides they have actually signed Nkunku for the attacking line which would be a really nice improvement. But I don't know if they are planning to make do with this about striker transfer.

Apart from that I hope another thing not to happen. You know they signed Werner as well from Leipzig but there was no impressive performance left in him after coming to the Premier League. He was a great scorer in the Bundesliga. I hope the situation with Nkunku doesn't become similar to that as well.

They have a lot of failed purchases and it's just a waste of money they do. Of the many players they have brought in this season, how many players can make a big contribution? I can even say that not a single player has contributed this season.
Like it or not, they have to reshuffle, unless their new coach can convince that the existing players he can rely on and give something he wants with the strategy he has. But would he be able to do that, if not much change? I wouldn't say I could and I wouldn't say I couldn't either.

For example Mudryk has been brought here for 70 million euros. He played in quite many games with Chelsea this season but couldn't make a big contribution. I don't know maybe he has had adaptation problems but we would see whether it was really the reason by the beginning of next season. I agree that they couldn't benefit from their transfers very much after all the money spent.

Pochettino's job isn't going to be easy while trying to find the right game plan for this team. He will need to do an extra effort to improve the morale of the players as well after having a nightmare season. I'm at least feeling confident about he can't be worse than Potter. Grin

I think they will be in top 4 race if they make a decent start and keep a good form for a while.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 17, 2023, 05:06:41 PM

I can't wait to see Pochettino's performance in Chelsea because he joined the team at a moment when they don't have a good situation and the players are mostly disappointed, while still according to transfermarkt Chelsea is one the most expensive team in the premier league which can give them a good potential for the next season which is what Pochettino can use to take better place for Chelsea in the next season.

However, because of the current atmosphere in Chelsea, he needs to rebuild the team and needs to hard work there.

I think the first major task or assignment of Pochettino is to trim Chelsea squad and rebuild the team starting with many young stars but few old players while allowing the redundant players to leave now that the likes of Kante, Koulibaly, Havertz, Abumeyang etc would not be in his future plan Pochettino has a lot of work in the rebuilding process of the club, however Chelsea fans shouldn't expect an instant impact it will definitely that some time before the team begin to become formidable and compete with other top team it also an advantage for the club not playing in European competitions it will allow Pochettino to remain focus on way fixing the team.

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Quote from: Josefjix on June 18, 2023, 01:16:20 AM

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At the very least, the season has been completed, and Chelsea will have more time to map out the areas in which they failed to develop. They began releasing players from the club. Todd Boehly's time is essentially non-existent; he's desperate for good results; he has to settle down and provide more time to the newly hired coach. Pochettino may not make a good impression in his first game as manager, but he is eager to rebuild the team after meeting it in low shape. Mauricio Pochettino is the new manager, and we anticipate new and solid projects from him. Chelsea is in disarray this season and will most likely return to winning form next season.

for me actually chelsea doesn't need to change coaches because chelsea has changed coaches several times but in fact there is no change like Lampard has also given the best strategy for chelsea but hasn't given any performance. from what I see Chelsea need new players who can make a strong contribution at Chelsea.
and yesterday Lampard didn't need to be replaced and focused more on new players to be active in the transfer market and looking for the best players to strengthen Chelsea's defence.

I'm still not sure about Chelsea in the summer even though the coach has changed but the Chelsea players need to adapt to the new coach.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 17, 2023, 10:53:46 PM

It will definitely be quite tough for Pochettino to be able to handle Chelsea as a new coach and his challenge is to change everything that was bad during the last season to make next season a better one. We know very well that this is not easy, especially even though Pochettino who is the coach will still need a lot of time. I also can't wait to see Pochettino's performance next season and hope he can win in his initial debut with Chelsea. Maybe we will also wait for some important updates regarding the players who will be included in the list.

At the very least, the season has been completed, and Chelsea will have more time to map out the areas in which they failed to develop. They began releasing players from the club. Todd Boehly's time is essentially non-existent; he's desperate for good results; he has to settle down and provide more time to the newly hired coach. Pochettino may not make a good impression in his first game as manager, but he is eager to rebuild the team after meeting it in low shape. Mauricio Pochettino is the new manager, and we anticipate new and solid projects from him. Chelsea is in disarray this season and will most likely return to winning form next season.

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Quote from: Despairo on June 17, 2023, 10:37:27 PM

Pochettino is a real coach while Lampard is just a retired senior player who only want to make money Cheesy

Pochettino might be a better manager than Lampard, but you are wrong to say that Lampard became a manager only to make money, what i think is that Lampard has not learnt enough to be a top-flight manager, he still has quite a lot to learn, and imo he would be better off moving to a lower league and see if he can make his way up again.

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Lampard and Zidane are same, but Zidane is lucky because he managed Real Madrid during Real Madrid's prime, without a coach Real Madrid can still become a champion. I'm not really sure what Pochettino will do to the current Chelsea squad, it's not easy to pick the best eleven players when they have a lot players.

Zidane's success at Real Madrid wasn't down to luck, he managed the team pretty well and that's why he won all that he did in his short spells at the club, it is not as easy as you think to win with Real Madrid, especially winning the CL three times consecutively, which is what Zidane did. Pochettino would prolly never set a record like that, he was given the opportunity at PSG, but he was eliminated from the CL in the RO16.

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and this is a big sign of potential troubles for Manchester United because if they make the mistake of signing the wrong goalkeeper,

The worst thing that will happen to Manchester united is signing a wrong goal keeper, De Gea made some silly mistakes in the season that ended which really affected Manchester united, if they didn't sign a experienced goal keeper, then they are going to end the season in the position which they don't expect.

Wait what? are you kidding here?
It's ridiculous to say Manncehster United made the wrong signing in goalkeeper now that Manchester United have tasted De Gea's ability even more than a decade lol.
This season he has indeed made many blunders but look at what happened last season where he always struggled under the sticks of Manchester United and made some good saves from opponent attacks and even from attacks by his own teammates which were occasionally seen during the Ole Era at that time.
Indeed, this season he has made some fatal mistakes, especially in important matches, but in this case I think saying they (Manchester United) made the wrong signing in goalkeeper is a mistake because it's true that after 12 years De Gea has always been the first choice, it's clear that it's ridiculous to say it's a failure.

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I can't wait to see Pochettino's performance in Chelsea because he joined the team at a moment when they don't have a good situation and the players are mostly disappointed, while still according to transfermarkt Chelsea is one the most expensive team in the premier league which can give them a good potential for the next season which is what Pochettino can use to take better place for Chelsea in the next season.

However, because of the current atmosphere in Chelsea, he needs to rebuild the team and needs to hard work there.

Yes, as I see there is a very advanced development in Manchester United acquisition of the Glazers family with Sheikh Jassim. Thus the Glazers family seems reluctant to spend a lot of money in this season's transfer window and it has been seen from Manchester United's efforts to choose to withdraw to get Osimhen because the price is too expensive. Maybe that's what can be concluded if the Glazers didn't give Erik a lot of money to bring in a lot of players this season. This acquisition should have gone smoothly and completely so that Manchester United new management can get a large injection of funds to buy players. In other cases, they really have to make a big transition if they want to compete more strongly in the Champions League.

With the change of management now things looking interesting here in Manchester United because from top four clubs we have three in hands of Arabs which are having hobby of spreading huge funds for their required players and won the trophy which create too much mess-up in soccer specially in European clubs because now mostly wants to win trophies with money instead of doing anything good for the improvement of quality and performance Glazers were also doing good because now after long time we have Manchester Untied in better shape and better results were also coming from different competitions as well.

How Sheikh Jasim will handle this all is interesting because first Manchester City then we have Newcastle Untied and now Manchester United all gone for the oil money, and it's going to be another level into the Premier League.

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I saw on the news that Manchester United doesn't have enough money to hire good goalkeepers and that's why David De Gea is the best option for Manchester United.
David Raya is also another player Ten Hag wants to hire him from Brentford. but I don't think they have enough money for it.

Oh yes, I've also read the news about this. Because previously, Ten Hag was certainly required to strengthen his squad this season. However, Man United has limited funds to strengthen each of its lines. Therefore, there are several players or positions where Ten Hag needs to continue to keep, sell, or loan the players. And indeed at this time, Man United really needs a forward and midfielder who is stronger than before. so, Man United may be more focused on finding new players for both positions. So, they might continue to keep De Gea in the goalkeeper position. In addition, de Gea's performance in the previous season was also quite good and satisfying, that's why they still continue to maintain and use de Gea.

The acquisition of Manchester United still not finished yet so they currently don't have any money to bought new players and this is big alert because Manchester United very required fresh funds to buy new players and to strengthen their squad and regarding De Gea this player have been met Manchester United representative several times and seems the agreement is still deadlocked between them and some sources has been mentioned De Gea will not extended his contract and will leave after his contract expired

Apparently David Raya is more likely to choose Tottenham instead of Manchester United this because he aren't sure Manchester United will have enough money to bought him considering the acquisition still have some problems but other goalkeeper seems into Manchester United watchlist and the latest is Everton goalkeeper Jordan Pickford has linked to them and it say Manchester United will attempts to bid 45 millions for Pickford

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 17, 2023, 05:06:41 PM

I can't wait to see Pochettino's performance in Chelsea because he joined the team at a moment when they don't have a good situation and the players are mostly disappointed, while still according to transfermarkt Chelsea is one the most expensive team in the premier league which can give them a good potential for the next season which is what Pochettino can use to take better place for Chelsea in the next season.

However, because of the current atmosphere in Chelsea, he needs to rebuild the team and needs to hard work there.

It will definitely be quite tough for Pochettino to be able to handle Chelsea as a new coach and his challenge is to change everything that was bad during the last season to make next season a better one. We know very well that this is not easy, especially even though Pochettino who is the coach will still need a lot of time. I also can't wait to see Pochettino's performance next season and hope he can win in his initial debut with Chelsea. Maybe we will also wait for some important updates regarding the players who will be included in the list.

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Quote from: OcTradism on June 17, 2023, 10:20:01 PM

Pochettino is a better coach than Lampard and it is clear through their coach career. Lampard's highest achievement in his coach career is only top four with Chelsea. Pochettino has better achievement with Tottenham, a Champions League final match and Ligue 1 title with PSG.

Pochettino is a real coach while Lampard is just a retired senior player who only want to make money Cheesy

Lampard and Zidane are same, but Zidane is lucky because he managed Real Madrid during Real Madrid's prime, without a coach Real Madrid can still become a champion. I'm not really sure what Pochettino will do to the current Chelsea squad, it's not easy to pick the best eleven players when they have a lot players.

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Quote from: snipie on June 17, 2023, 06:48:57 PM

Pochetino will have a lot of work to do as said by Lampard. When you look to the team in a financial way, you have the feeling that they are the best but in fact, the team is in a fragile situation and needs to renew its players.

Pochettino is a better coach than Lampard and it is clear through their coach career. Lampard's highest achievement in his coach career is only top four with Chelsea. Pochettino has better achievement with Tottenham, a Champions League final match and Ligue 1 title with PSG.

Pochettino is a friendly coach and he does not have harsh words toward his coach colleagues so I think he will not say anything bad against Lampard advice even it is not correct in Pochettino's opinion. Lampard actually is correct that Chelsea have many problems in their squad, from player quality to motivation to contribute best for the club.

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Yes, as I see there is a very advanced development in Manchester United acquisition of the Glazers family with Sheikh Jassim. Thus the Glazers family seems reluctant to spend a lot of money in this season's transfer window and it has been seen from Manchester United's efforts to choose to withdraw to get Osimhen because the price is too expensive.

Glazers family did not get warm welcome from Manchester United fans since the day they bought the club many years ago. After many years, they decided to leave Manchester United and it's not a bad decision from Glazers family.

Success of Manchester City and Newcastle United with owners from Middle East and the appearance of Sheikh Jassim in Old Trafford will bring more hope to Manchester United fans that their club will become stronger in future. In fact, Manchester United spent big money for transfers since retirement of Sir. Alex Ferguson but their transfer strategy is bad. They did not lack of money for transfers with Glazers family.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 17, 2023, 05:06:41 PM

I can't wait to see Pochettino's performance in Chelsea because he joined the team at a moment when they don't have a good situation and the players are mostly disappointed, while still according to transfermarkt Chelsea is one the most expensive team in the premier league which can give them a good potential for the next season which is what Pochettino can use to take better place for Chelsea in the next season.

However, because of the current atmosphere in Chelsea, he needs to rebuild the team and needs to hard work there.

Pochetino will have a lot of work to do as said by Lampard. When you look to the team in a financial way, you have the feeling that they are the best but in fact, the team is in a fragile situation and needs to renew its players.
There is many rumours of people joining Chelsea like Rabiot, Thuram, Kune, Jackson and so on but there is nothing clear when the manager will start rebuilding the team.

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