Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 3311.

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Quote from: Iranus on January 29, 2023, 11:14:27 PM

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In the last meeting between these two clubs, Crsytal Palace escaped being beaten by Manchester United. This time around they may not escape it. Even though Crystal Palace will put up a good fight as usual. But Manchester United will be more resilient and formidable in the midfield against Palace.
But in England nothing is too sure, however the Erik Ten Hag guys are on a good form.

In the next match, when Crystal Palace meets Manchester United again in February, I'm sure it will be a very exciting match because both of them will definitely play with all their might to win, Manchester United currently has strengths that are not easy to beat by Crystal Palace.

Manchester United's performance is now better than it was at the start of the season. But are they strong enough? Manchester United shared the points against Crystal Palace. I would say they did not perform well enough to win this match. And if such a performance, Manchester United will not be able to win against Lord Crystal Palace in the next match. They need to improve their performance. Especially I would say it is important to bring changes in their match strategy.

The last time Manchester United played against Crystal Palace, Crystal Palace were lucky defeat from Manchester United but this time I doubt if it will be still possible for Crystal Palace to scale through from Manchester United. Manchester United are tasty for points , it's difficult for them to lose to opponent.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 30, 2023, 03:09:15 AM

Currently, Klopp's career at Liverpool is on the line and it is clear that they cannot relax in the current conditions because at the moment it can be said that their performance is still not going smoothly.

Liverpool has a lot of star players in their squad. Since they are not performing well despite having many experienced players, it can be assumed that it is the failure of the coach. Coach Klopp is unable to stabilize the team. And the important thing is that Liverpool's match strategy is not stable. The bond between the players is now weak due to lack of match strategy. In this case, if Klopp cannot stabilize the team and Liverpool's performance is not regular then Liverpool management may decide to sack Klopp.

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I don’t think the league is redeemable for Liverpool. Klopps men has really been awful this season and even if they started badly this season I have always never written them off, but right now I think the league has gone beyond them.
Liverpool are ninth on the English premier league standings, out of all available competitions apart from the Uefa champions league and they are facing the wrath of Real Madrid. I don’t even see them making top 4.

At the moment, the chances of Liverpool to get into the top 4 are estimated by the bookmakers as 3.25 (the top four teams are obviously the favorites). These are better chances than any other club below fourth place right now but I would argue that the odds of 3.25 don't reflect the hopelessness of Liverpool's position. I don't think they even make it into the top 5.

I do not understand when Liverpool is actually going to be able to perform better this season. Or even if they will actually be able to do it or not. Because right now it does not feel like Liverpool is going to be able to perform as well as they should have. It will be even hard for Liverpool to get toward the top four. Whatever Liverpool is trying right now does not feel like it is going to work. Actually, it is not working at all.

I hope Liverpool does not fire the coach. You know he has achieved a lot with Liverpool, so he should be given a little more time.

This is like a seasonal issue for some of the big 6 in the EPL, they lack form and also drop points drastically even when they play you ask yourself is this one of the big clubs in EPL? Liverpool are really finding it hard to even get hold of a win, just like they played against Brighton with the 0-1 lead they couldn't hold it till the end of first half and they end up losing the game.
Is like the smaller clubs have found out how to beat them and make them feel useless as in style of play, imagine having Mo Salah and other guys in the team and you think of how to stop them to even get a point as a coach but these days they just play poorly and is kind of frustrating for both players and coaching staff, Sometimes they ask themselves what are they not doing right.
Klopp is a good coach no doubt but I tell you for free that if it was other clubs he would have been sacked before now, with the time he has been given he should try and make some changes add more fresh legs in the midfield because some players are getting old, you can't play experience more than stamina and strength.

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Quote from: onecall123 on January 30, 2023, 02:02:22 AM

They were eliminated from the FA Cup, the Carabao Cup, and ranked 9th in the Premier League this season. Hope everything doesn't last forever, that it isn't the end of Liverpool FC, and that they will be back stronger than ever. The worst-case scenario is Liverpool could drop to 12-14th place. If a key player is lost, it cannot be easily repaired. The team needs to be rebuilt again by Klopp. Despite having a good core, he needs fresher players. There is no hope for Liverpool! There will certainly be a lot of money to be made from this, I am not sure though.

This is not the end but on the other hand this does not cover the fact that their chances are getting tougher now.
With this condition they now have to try to choose which competition they should prioritize considering that at this time it would be very unwise if they were still looking at many competitions.
Currently, Klopp's career at Liverpool is on the line and it is clear that they cannot relax in the current conditions because at the moment it can be said that their performance is still not going smoothly.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 29, 2023, 04:46:50 PM

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I don’t think the league is redeemable for Liverpool. Klopps men has really been awful this season and even if they started badly this season I have always never written them off, but right now I think the league has gone beyond them.
Liverpool are ninth on the English premier league standings, out of all available competitions apart from the Uefa champions league and they are facing the wrath of Real Madrid. I don’t even see them making top 4.

At the moment, the chances of Liverpool to get into the top 4 are estimated by the bookmakers as 3.25 (the top four teams are obviously the favorites). These are better chances than any other club below fourth place right now but I would argue that the odds of 3.25 don't reflect the hopelessness of Liverpool's position. I don't think they even make it into the top 5.

I do not understand when Liverpool is actually going to be able to perform better this season. Or even if they will actually be able to do it or not. Because right now it does not feel like Liverpool is going to be able to perform as well as they should have. It will be even hard for Liverpool to get toward the top four. Whatever Liverpool is trying right now does not feel like it is going to work. Actually, it is not working at all.

I hope Liverpool does not fire the coach. You know he has achieved a lot with Liverpool, so he should be given a little more time.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on January 30, 2023, 02:09:54 AM

Mourinho has been criticized for his excessive defensive play but his Chelsea successes are still sought after. I think he might get another chance again. Because all the conditions seem to be preparing us for this process. However, if he returns to the team again, I don't know if he can use the players in the team efficiently. Because they transferred too many offensive players. And these transfers may not be very compatible with Mourinho's understanding of extreme defensive football. Apart from this handicap, Mourinho is not a bad option for them in my opinion.

Jose Mourinho is no bad Coach, on no account will I support such statements but then if you get to see him tactics, they're simply outdated. Football has really evolved from those over defending tactics, the last three Premier League won did you get to seethe tactics used ? All attacking, both defender's midfielder's and attackers.

Chelsea currently has recruited the right kind of players, but one two three players needs to come in midfied, Jorginho needs to go, Loftus Cheek and possibly Callagher.

This lads are too good to be managed by a very defensive minded coach, Thomas Tuchel would have done the job but so.sad he's currently not available. But what can I say if Jose Mourinho finally gets employed Toddy Boehly ? Top 4 seems difficult to achieve ( Both Chelsea and Liverpool )

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Quote from: TopT3ns on January 29, 2023, 07:33:51 PM

Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 29, 2023, 05:02:39 PM

In the last meeting between these two clubs, Crsytal Palace escaped being beaten by Manchester United. This time around they may not escape it. Even though Crystal Palace will put up a good fight as usual. But Manchester United will be more resilient and formidable in the midfield against Palace.
But in England nothing is too sure, however the Erik Ten Hag guys are on a good form.

In the next match, when Crystal Palace meets Manchester United again in February, I'm sure it will be a very exciting match because both of them will definitely play with all their might to win, Manchester United currently has strengths that are not easy to beat by Crystal Palace.

that could be an easy match for MU but the problem is seeing from the result of crystal palace from several matches and I would say that if crystal palace is in a very good situation right now. MU has very good squad to be able to win against crystal palace.
Crystal palace itself has been targeting right back from MU. it seems like that crystal palace will prevent united to get full points. Crystal palace have been getting two lose and two draws from last 5 matches in EPL which is very bad achievements.
This gonna be easy match and I'm all in MU. MU's odd looks good right now. 1.40 for MU is enough for me

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Quote from: Josefjix on January 29, 2023, 03:13:12 PM

Brighton kick Liverpool out of the FA cup with a 2-1 victory in the game. Jurgen klopp didn't see that coming as his team conceded a goal in the 91th minutes of extra time. Brighton Albion are really improving in their performance against big teams, that's how Trossard who's currently in arsenal scored an hattrick with the reds which levelled the score sheets 3-3 in the premier league. Liverpool are passing through a worst phase of the deform squad. Last season, the reds almost won an unprecedented quadruple titles and this season, they're out of the FA cup, Carabao cup and they're facing real Madrid in the champions league which is one of their pre-eminent rival in the UEFEA, Liverpool are ranked 9th on the table, how time flies for the reds.

i think the red devils are going away from liverpool LOL. whether in the premier league or in the FA cup, liverpool appeared to disappoint

next month liverpool will face wolves, if they keep playing like when they faced brighton in the FA cup then we can be sure that liverpool's ranking will continue to fall

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Quote from: crunck on January 30, 2023, 12:53:35 AM

I don't expect Liverpool to finish in the top 6 of the points table. Liverpool's performance is erratic. Another reason is that teams like Brighton and Brentford are performing quite well. And consistently these teams are able to play well. And so even if Liverpool can perform well, it is very difficult for them to get into the 6th of the points table. And less likely. Despite having so many star players, it is difficult to accept Liverpool's performance.

It seems that Liverpool and Chelsea cannot much expect this season. Even though many people had high hopes with these two clubs before the season started. but after the season started and until now in the second half of the season it turns out that Liverpool or Chelsea have not shown any significant signs of improvement. in fact Brighton and Brentford have surprised us all this season. especially Brentford.

but we are still in the middle of the season and there are still a lot of games left in the season. so there is still hope for Liverpool and Chelsea to get back to their best performance. I'm still trying to put my hope in these two clubs. although it's a little difficult.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on January 29, 2023, 07:47:41 PM

not really, Arsenal did not play with their full squad against Man city so that mach could mean nothing to try predict whats going to happen next in the Premier League or their plan in the upcoming matches.

maybe Arsenal is wanting to focus on hunting for the English league this season compared to the FA cup which they often get, but still in yesterday's match Manchester City already knew how to play Arsenal so maybe the second meeting in the English league will determine the results of both in February.

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Quote from: izsara on January 29, 2023, 07:31:21 PM

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Well .. chelsea rebuilding the empire for one more time since 2005 and it has a cost , lacking of goals due the attacking line problem is just one of the cost that chelsea might be aware about already , but with some striker signings like datro fofana .. who have not get his first minute of the game yet.

Also nkunku who will join chelsea next summer. The rebuilding should be completed by then.

The difference is when they are in the Abramovich empire after spending a lot of money they get instant results but right now they still don't accept those conditions and maybe even seem like a real waste of money considering the current state of affairs for Chelsea with some outrageous purchases and players which is not very useful.

Mourinho has been criticized for his excessive defensive play but his Chelsea successes are still sought after. I think he might get another chance again. Because all the conditions seem to be preparing us for this process. However, if he returns to the team again, I don't know if he can use the players in the team efficiently. Because they transferred too many offensive players. And these transfers may not be very compatible with Mourinho's understanding of extreme defensive football. Apart from this handicap, Mourinho is not a bad option for them in my opinion.

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Quote from: Despairo on January 30, 2023, 01:15:54 AM

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I don't expect Liverpool to finish in the top 6 of the points table. Liverpool's performance is erratic. Another reason is that teams like Brighton and Brentford are performing quite well. And consistently these teams are able to play well. And so even if Liverpool can perform well, it is very difficult for them to get into the 6th of the points table. And less likely. Despite having so many star players, it is difficult to accept Liverpool's performance.

Firmino, Arthur and Diogo Jota will fully comeback on the late February, but before that there are 3 matches Liverpool need to face, it's against Wolves, Everton and Newcastle. I will say Liverpool will have bad result in those 3 matches because they will play without 3 players which I mentioned above, Liverpool can drop to 12-14th position at the worst case. But after then they will start to recover and may likely become top 6 clubs since there are still many match to go.

For bettors, you need to use this chance to make a lot money. I think it's not wrong to bet Wolves, Everton and Newcastle on draw no bet option, so you wouldn't lose your money if the match end in draw.

They were eliminated from the FA Cup, the Carabao Cup, and ranked 9th in the Premier League this season. Hope everything doesn't last forever, that it isn't the end of Liverpool FC, and that they will be back stronger than ever. The worst-case scenario is Liverpool could drop to 12-14th place. If a key player is lost, it cannot be easily repaired. The team needs to be rebuilt again by Klopp. Despite having a good core, he needs fresher players. There is no hope for Liverpool! There will certainly be a lot of money to be made from this, I am not sure though.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on January 29, 2023, 07:47:41 PM

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Yeah, more attention is shifted to the FA cup this period since most clubs in the premier league are the same playing the FA cup, but we may still base our analyses of the clubs on performance at the FA cup because their performances in the future will be influenced by what their play in the FA cup.
-Liverpool for example may have a tough time in the other league after the FA cup break since most of the clubs they're going to face already know their weak point from their performance in the FA cup and even some premier league matches.

not really, Arsenal did not play with their full squad against Man city so that mach could mean nothing to try predict whats going to happen next in the Premier League or their plan in the upcoming matches.

I think it's impossible for Arsenal not to prioritize the FA Cup. Throughout the club's history, Arsenal have won the FA Cup trophy 14 times and are listed as the most successful team in the FA Cup. After being eliminated in the FA Cup, Arsenal can focus more on the Premier League, Arsenal have collected 50 points from 19 matches, Arteta must strategize well ahead of the next match to stay away from the threat of Manchester City who are below him by five points.
Meanwhile, in the Europa League competition, Arsenal are still in the ranks of the seeded teams in the competition. The impressive results that have always been inscribed in the Premier League have made Arsenal have the opportunity to step into the final round which is very open.

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Quote from: crunck on January 30, 2023, 12:53:35 AM

I don't expect Liverpool to finish in the top 6 of the points table. Liverpool's performance is erratic. Another reason is that teams like Brighton and Brentford are performing quite well. And consistently these teams are able to play well. And so even if Liverpool can perform well, it is very difficult for them to get into the 6th of the points table. And less likely. Despite having so many star players, it is difficult to accept Liverpool's performance.

Firmino, Arthur and Diogo Jota will fully comeback on the late February, but before that there are 3 matches Liverpool need to face, it's against Wolves, Everton and Newcastle. I will say Liverpool will have bad result in those 3 matches because they will play without 3 players which I mentioned above, Liverpool can drop to 12-14th position at the worst case. But after then they will start to recover and may likely become top 6 clubs since there are still many match to go.

For bettors, you need to use this chance to make a lot money. I think it's not wrong to bet Wolves, Everton and Newcastle on draw no bet option, so you wouldn't lose your money if the match end in draw.

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Meanwhile, there is a team called Liverpool that used also to be a top one, but this season it shows a nightmarish results, they even got kicked from FA Cup by Brighton.
Could they guarantee any European competitions spot for the next season seriously?

As a fan of LFC I can say that it is very difficult and it might even be a season that will not see Liverpool playing in any European competition, their only hope is to win the UCL but this is even more difficult than fighting for a spot in another European competition. Seeing how they lost to Brighton twice in a row is really unexpected and how their 3 strikers after the change didn't work at all is disappointing.

I don't expect Liverpool to finish in the top 6 of the points table. Liverpool's performance is erratic. Another reason is that teams like Brighton and Brentford are performing quite well. And consistently these teams are able to play well. And so even if Liverpool can perform well, it is very difficult for them to get into the 6th of the points table. And less likely. Despite having so many star players, it is difficult to accept Liverpool's performance.

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Quote from: snipie on January 29, 2023, 08:20:35 PM

Meanwhile, there is a team called Liverpool that used also to be a top one, but this season it shows a nightmarish results, they even got kicked from FA Cup by Brighton.
Could they guarantee any European competitions spot for the next season seriously?

As a fan of LFC I can say that it is very difficult and it might even be a season that will not see Liverpool playing in any European competition, their only hope is to win the UCL but this is even more difficult than fighting for a spot in another European competition. Seeing how they lost to Brighton twice in a row is really unexpected and how their 3 strikers after the change didn't work at all is disappointing.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on January 29, 2023, 07:33:51 PM

Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 29, 2023, 05:02:39 PM

In the last meeting between these two clubs, Crsytal Palace escaped being beaten by Manchester United. This time around they may not escape it. Even though Crystal Palace will put up a good fight as usual. But Manchester United will be more resilient and formidable in the midfield against Palace.
But in England nothing is too sure, however the Erik Ten Hag guys are on a good form.

In the next match, when Crystal Palace meets Manchester United again in February, I'm sure it will be a very exciting match because both of them will definitely play with all their might to win, Manchester United currently has strengths that are not easy to beat by Crystal Palace.

Manchester United's performance is now better than it was at the start of the season. But are they strong enough? Manchester United shared the points against Crystal Palace. I would say they did not perform well enough to win this match. And if such a performance, Manchester United will not be able to win against Lord Crystal Palace in the next match. They need to improve their performance. Especially I would say it is important to bring changes in their match strategy.

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Quote from: izsara on January 29, 2023, 07:31:21 PM

The difference is when they are in the Abramovich empire after spending a lot of money they get instant results but right now they still don't accept those conditions and maybe even seem like a real waste of money considering the current state of affairs for Chelsea with some outrageous purchases and players which is not very useful.

The era of Abramovich was golden for Chelsea and things got worse and worse since his departure which was humiliating by politicians in reality. Although the new owners have money but they fail to pick the right coach and subsequently the right players to boost the team results. It was like a sinking boat with the departure of top players and the administration..
Meanwhile, there is a team called Liverpool that used also to be a top one, but this season it shows a nightmarish results, they even got kicked from FA Cup by Brighton.
Could they guarantee any European competitions spot for the next season seriously?

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 29, 2023, 04:48:09 PM

It looks like there was no play at all in the English league today. The reason is of course that the matches in the FA Cup also had to take place this week. A nice tournament, but the return really should be abolished. Why not just extend and then penalties? Because now teams have to play against each other again in the event of a draw and if there is no winner, an extension must still be played and subsequent penalty kicks. Then it is more convenient to do that right at the first match. Man City, of course, are the favorites in this tournament, but United would also like to win this award, having won it last time under Van Gaal's management.

Yeah, more attention is shifted to the FA cup this period since most clubs in the premier league are the same playing the FA cup, but we may still base our analyses of the clubs on performance at the FA cup because their performances in the future will be influenced by what their play in the FA cup.
-Liverpool for example may have a tough time in the other league after the FA cup break since most of the clubs they're going to face already know their weak point from their performance in the FA cup and even some premier league matches.

not really, Arsenal did not play with their full squad against Man city so that mach could mean nothing to try predict whats going to happen next in the Premier League or their plan in the upcoming matches.

But then why will their not play their full squad even though there not playing the premier league FA cup is also as important as every other league, I don't know why most clubs don't take the FA cup seriously despite it importance in the outcome of the clubs in the premier league and champion league e.g.
-Arsenal has been in a high spirit this season and there have topped the premiere league table, followed by Manchester City retaining the second position.
-But with Asernal's last match result against man city in the FA cup was Asernal was defeated, that result may affect the club's future performance since their motivation level will decrease due to the defeat.
So I don't see any reason why a club that has everything to fight for will not put their best foot forward in a crucial time like this.

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Quote from: Wiwo on January 29, 2023, 06:56:18 PM

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 29, 2023, 04:48:09 PM

It looks like there was no play at all in the English league today. The reason is of course that the matches in the FA Cup also had to take place this week. A nice tournament, but the return really should be abolished. Why not just extend and then penalties? Because now teams have to play against each other again in the event of a draw and if there is no winner, an extension must still be played and subsequent penalty kicks. Then it is more convenient to do that right at the first match. Man City, of course, are the favorites in this tournament, but United would also like to win this award, having won it last time under Van Gaal's management.

Yeah, more attention is shifted to the FA cup this period since most clubs in the premier league are the same playing the FA cup, but we may still base our analyses of the clubs on performance at the FA cup because their performances in the future will be influenced by what their play in the FA cup.
-Liverpool for example may have a tough time in the other league after the FA cup break since most of the clubs they're going to face already know their weak point from their performance in the FA cup and even some premier league matches.

not really, Arsenal did not play with their full squad against Man city so that mach could mean nothing to try predict whats going to happen next in the Premier League or their plan in the upcoming matches.

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