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Quote from: punk.zink on October 31, 2024, 10:41:37 AM

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It is too early to measure the strength of Ruud van Nistelrooy and also Ruud van Nistelrooy does not have much experience so it is natural that Manchester United does not yet believe in showing Ruud van Nistelrooy as their permanent coach.
I do not think too much of Man United's victory over a team that is not on par with them and indeed the Man United team is a top Premier League team that they should be able to compete in the title race.
And the dismissal of Ten Hag is a step from management to advance or make changes in the Man United team, I welcome this step and hopefully Man United can rise.

Ruud van Nistelrooy also does not want to be a permanent coach and he said that he came to Man United with only one goal, which is to become an assistant. The point is not whether Nistelrooy is capable or not of becoming a Man United coach, but it was a valuable victory that Man United got because it is something they rarely get this season and it can be an encouragement so that they have hope again to rise from their slump.

We know Van Nistelrooy won't be permanent and he is going to give his place to Amorim however I think even if he stays coaches at Manchester United he can still have a better performance than Ten Hag because we saw an amazing performance from Manchester United when they didn't have Ten Hag working in this team. Maybe it's even worth it to bet on Nistelrooy's team and they will have more chances with Nistelrooy than they had with Ten Hag before.
I think Amorim should even start using Van Nistelrooy because of the knowledge he has about Manchester United.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on October 31, 2024, 07:45:08 AM

It is too early to measure the strength of Ruud van Nistelrooy and also Ruud van Nistelrooy does not have much experience so it is natural that Manchester United does not yet believe in showing Ruud van Nistelrooy as their permanent coach.
I do not think too much of Man United's victory over a team that is not on par with them and indeed the Man United team is a top Premier League team that they should be able to compete in the title race.
And the dismissal of Ten Hag is a step from management to advance or make changes in the Man United team, I welcome this step and hopefully Man United can rise.

Yes it is too early to decide about Ruud van Nistelrooy, and saying he lacks the experience to coach a team like Manchester United is just a flimsy excuse. Such talk seems more about discrediting him than fairly assessing his qualifications for the job on a permanent basis. Ruud van Nistelrooy is a household name at Manchester United, and I believe he has all the potential to succeed there. His first game in charge showed significant changes and gave a glimpse of what United fans have been longing to see even if it was against a relegation team. It's been a long time since United played in such a dominant manner. Most of the United faithful will be thrilled with a commanding victory, not only for the result but for the control over possession and the energy displayed on the pitch—something that’s been missing for quite some time.

I hope Manchester United has the confidence in Ruud van Nistelrooy to give him the job on a permanent basis.

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Quote from: MrEazyLife on November 01, 2024, 09:24:08 AM

The Manchester United game vs Chelsea. Goals is going to rain. Expect nothing less that 4 goals. But it’s still not certain who’s taking the 3 point home as they might end up with a draw. Even in United worst form they still go toe to toe with Chelsea and still win them. But then this involves two new different coaches with their tactics. So finger crossed while we wait for the game.

Definitely a dicey match between the two premier league clubs though Man Utd is on a poor run yet I don't expect the team to get thrashed by Chelsea I believe the team mid week EPL win against Leceister City would motivate Man Utd to up their game against Chelsea as well as playing at Old Trafford is another advantage thus I wouldn't underrate Man Utd on Sunday probably a surprise win against the blues is possible just to prove that their former manager was responsible for their poor runs, however a draw match is fair result for Man Utd while Chelsea would prefer to win the match.

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Quote from: MrEazyLife on November 01, 2024, 11:02:45 AM

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The Manchester United game vs Chelsea. Goals is going to rain. Expect nothing less that 4 goals. But it’s still not certain who’s taking the 3 point home as they might end up with a draw. Even in United worst form they still go toe to toe with Chelsea and still win them. But then this involves two new different coaches with their tactics. So finger crossed while we wait for the game.

This match will be played Old Trafford, Manchester and therefore i think Manchester United may have a better chance of winning this match. However, we cannot underestimate the Chelsea team here. They are one of the strongest teams who have won 5 matches while Manchester United hasn't been in good form lately. They have lost 4 matches.

Also if we compare the game of both teams, Manchester United have scored 8 times while Chelsea is far ahead of them as they have scored 19 goals in total. Manchester United lost their previous game against West Ham so they may want to register a win in this match. You will get 2.60 odds betting on any one of them and 3.75 odds for the draw.

It’s a home advantage here for Manchester United. And the interim coach might want to prove something here. For the very first time ugarte played along side Casemiro in the Leicester game. which saw Casemiro being free to move forward and return. Ten hag never tried this option. Just maybe the interim coach will do another magic against Chelsea

This match will really be a true test for Ruud van Nistelrooy because this time they have to play against one of the big teams that has improved quite significantly this season. Man United did win against Leicester in the EFL Cup but many people doubt that it is Man United who has become better because their opponent is just a mediocre team, and it might just be a lucky win.

If Ten Hag was still at Man United I would have no hesitation in saying that Chelsea would win the game, but now the conditions are completely different, and maybe Man United and Nistelrooy have a burning enthusiasm.

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Quote from: ndutndut on November 01, 2024, 01:36:00 AM

One side is true. Man United's recent slump is indeed Ten Hag's fault who could not maximize the skills of his players, he also sometimes applied the wrong formation and of course could not organize the dressing room. After Ten Hag was no longer a coach, Man United's game improved and the players were free to move freely so they could score many goals. Leicester City is indeed a weak opponent but this is a good start for Man United's revival.

Just look at Man United's game, organized and the attack is too strong, Man United has changed a lot. The next big task for the manager is to get rid of the toxic environment among the players. Strengthen togetherness, raise the mentality to the level of a fighter, and maximize the potential of the players.

So let's see if RVN can save the sinking ship, their next match will be against Chelsea. We know Chelsea is currently also in good form, Man United will also rise soon. So it is certain that this match will be tight, if you bet it might be better to bet on the number of goals.

I think the problem is much more complex than it might seem at first
and there are many who are to blame, first of all the coach
obviously mine is only an opinion as an outsider who has no absolute practicality with the Premier League, but as an outsider i warnn that all this mess caused finds many culprits

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Team	Point
Man. City	23
Liverpool	22
Arsenal	18
Aston Villa	18
Chelsea	17
Brighton	16
Nottingham Forest	16
Tottenham	13
Brentford	13
Fulham	12
Bournemouth	12
Newcastle	12
West Ham	11
Man. United	11
Leicester	9
Everton	9
Crystal Palace	6
Ipswich Town	4
Wolves	2
Southampton	1

is a really nice fight on the top
Arsenal a little further away, 4 points but we're there.

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Quote from: virasog on November 01, 2024, 10:30:05 AM

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The Manchester United game vs Chelsea. Goals is going to rain. Expect nothing less that 4 goals. But it’s still not certain who’s taking the 3 point home as they might end up with a draw. Even in United worst form they still go toe to toe with Chelsea and still win them. But then this involves two new different coaches with their tactics. So finger crossed while we wait for the game.

This match will be played Old Trafford, Manchester and therefore i think Manchester United may have a better chance of winning this match. However, we cannot underestimate the Chelsea team here. They are one of the strongest teams who have won 5 matches while Manchester United hasn't been in good form lately. They have lost 4 matches.

Also if we compare the game of both teams, Manchester United have scored 8 times while Chelsea is far ahead of them as they have scored 19 goals in total. Manchester United lost their previous game against West Ham so they may want to register a win in this match. You will get 2.60 odds betting on any one of them and 3.75 odds for the draw.

It’s a home advantage here for Manchester United. And the interim coach might want to prove something here. For the very first time ugarte played along side Casemiro in the Leicester game. which saw Casemiro being free to move forward and return. Ten hag never tried this option. Just maybe the interim coach will do another magic against Chelsea

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Quote from: MrEazyLife on November 01, 2024, 09:24:08 AM

The Manchester United game vs Chelsea. Goals is going to rain. Expect nothing less that 4 goals. But it’s still not certain who’s taking the 3 point home as they might end up with a draw. Even in United worst form they still go toe to toe with Chelsea and still win them. But then this involves two new different coaches with their tactics. So finger crossed while we wait for the game.

It is possible that the result will be a draw, but I will also see how the tactics of the new Manchester United coach when hosting Chelsea this weekend because I see Chelsea this season have also started to improve in their game and performance so that Palmer is often able to score goals when there is a good chance and opportunity in the match. And for this weekend I also will not assume that Chelsea will have difficulty playing better at Manchester United's home because Chelsea's condition itself is still very good.

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Quote from: MrEazyLife on November 01, 2024, 09:24:08 AM

The Manchester United game vs Chelsea. Goals is going to rain. Expect nothing less that 4 goals. But it’s still not certain who’s taking the 3 point home as they might end up with a draw. Even in United worst form they still go toe to toe with Chelsea and still win them. But then this involves two new different coaches with their tactics. So finger crossed while we wait for the game.

This match will be played Old Trafford, Manchester and therefore i think Manchester United may have a better chance of winning this match. However, we cannot underestimate the Chelsea team here. They are one of the strongest teams who have won 5 matches while Manchester United hasn't been in good form lately. They have lost 4 matches.

Also if we compare the game of both teams, Manchester United have scored 8 times while Chelsea is far ahead of them as they have scored 19 goals in total. Manchester United lost their previous game against West Ham so they may want to register a win in this match. You will get 2.60 odds betting on any one of them and 3.75 odds for the draw.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 01, 2024, 09:09:46 AM

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No, I actually thinks otherwise bro, Enzo Fernandes is very much fundamental to this Chelsea team and he also brings creativity in the middle of the park, though Latvia is also a very good player, but Chelsea mostly struggle in creating chances when Enzo Fernandes is left out of the team because the burden of creativity will lies solely on the shoulder of cole palmer, so I believe that he add more value than Latvia in the starting line up.

It is very simple to know why Enzo Fernandez is not played by Maresca because for now he is not included in the strategic plan that Maresca needs in the main squad. We may know that the coach will implement a defensive or attacking strategy based on a concept that is adjusted to the individual player abilities. In this case Enzo Fernandez likes it or not, creative or not for Maresca as long as he has the criteria needed, then the chance of Enzo returning to the main squad will be very small. n essence this is not a question of doubting Enzo Fernandez abilities but more about the coach needs.

You are in the right track here. Sometimes we the fans and football lovers. We shouldn't look at things only the entertainment side we should try to be in the position of the manager then we would know who to start and who not to start in a game. I often say this to my friend that what goes on in the training is a lot different from what is going to happen on a match day. A player might be performing so well in training and when he has the opportunity to play he does not perform well. Every coach has a tactic and a strategy that makes them better than the others. And they only play the right players who can really do what they are ask to in the pitch. Enzo Fernandez is a good plater just like everyone has said. He may not be the right player to pull out Maresca's strategies.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 01, 2024, 08:51:12 AM

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Amorim will only be able to start working at Manchester United on November 12, because he still has three official games to work for Sporting. So van Nistelrooy will still have the opportunity to play as Manchester United head coach, it will be three games (two in the APL and one in the Europa League). And the next game will be at Old Trafford against Chelsea, a very important game considering the good form Chelsea are in, if Manchester can beat Chelsea like that, I will start to think that it really was about ten Hag.

Well, let's see what happens later when United faces Chelsea. if their interim coach manages to motivate the players and get good results in the match later, of course, all the harsh criticisms of Ten Hag are true.
United needs a lot of points to catch up at this time. Chelsea has performed better and if they can beat Chelsea, I'm sure the confidence of the players and also the fans will improve. a job that will not be easy but Nistelrooy should not have the pressure to make his players play better when they destroy Leicester.

Many people did not believe the home team could create a surprise if Ten Hag was still in charge. However, things were different when Van Nistelrooy temporarily took charge. MU players transformed in the match against Leicester City. Therefore, Chelsea needs to be very careful even though Enzo Maresca and his team are in quite stable form. Van Nistelrooy's weakness is that he has never led a team in a big match, but Maresca is only slightly better than his colleague. Therefore, the opportunity is equal for both sides in this match.
If MU defeats Chelsea, it will be no different than a slap in the face to coach Erik ten Hag. Of course, facing Chelsea is a big challenge. The most important thing is that Ruud van Nistelrooy must maximize the ability of the current MU players. This is a big challenge for Ruud van Nistelrooy.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on November 01, 2024, 08:43:18 AM

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Ruud van Nistelrooy did not waste the opportunity to coach Manchester United to replace Erik Ten Hag even though it was only temporary and the results were quite satisfying even though this was only an EFL match but still this victory was very important for Manchester United who have recently experienced a series of bad results. I think Ruud van Nistelrooy could coach Man United longer but who would have thought Man United moved quickly in finding a new coach, even though I actually wanted to see Nistelrooy's abilities more at this club if it gives positive results Man United does not need to recruit a new coach but we need to respect the team's decision in recruiting Ruben Amorim.

Amorim will only be able to start working at Manchester United on November 12, because he still has three official games to work for Sporting. So van Nistelrooy will still have the opportunity to play as Manchester United head coach, it will be three games (two in the APL and one in the Europa League). And the next game will be at Old Trafford against Chelsea, a very important game considering the good form Chelsea are in, if Manchester can beat Chelsea like that, I will start to think that it really was about ten Hag.

Man United scored a goal party against Leicester City in their first match without Ten Hag, the victory being the first time they have managed to score 5 goals against a fellow Premier League team since August 2021. I think Van Nistelrooy will use his position as interim coach to show his ability as a coach who deserves a chance at least until the end of the season. The match vs Chelsea is very crucial, he will try to use the Old atmosphere to get three points. It is indeed quite difficult for Man United to beat Chelsea who are going through a transition period with Van Nistelrooy, but the results achieved in the EFL Cup have increased the enthusiasm and confidence of the players to improve their position in the standings.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on November 01, 2024, 09:28:07 AM

R.V.Nistelrooy and his team are currently preparing for the match against Chelsea. They don't have time to joke around in their pursuit of the top 4 in the English Premier League standings. I agree with you. However, if that really happens, then the one to blame is their previous coach, Ten Hag, who caused so many problems in the last few seasons. However, Manchester United must forget their past to continue to focus on their important matches because their journey is still so long and there are still many opportunities to achieve it all.

Ruud van Nistelrooy is one step to become one of the best thing to happen to Manchester United after the dismissed of Erik Ten Hag. He's prominent and have proven himself worthy of the managerial position, thrashing Leicester City 5-2 in EFL Cup was actually something good to the ears of the Red Devils board and supporters. Perhaps his work is not finish yet, having the main test in few days coming. Manchester United vs Chelsea this weekend, one of the big games to watch this season. I'm definitely pausing all my weekend activities inother to create more time to relaxed my nerves for the game.

Who's placing a wager this weekend when it comes to weekend games? I'm sticking to the easier games that are easy to predict and not the big games that are complex. Manchester United ranked 14th position and Chelsea are 5th position, both elite sides, dignify and fighting to bounce back to epic form this season. This a game that Chelsea ought not to underestimate Manchester United because any slight chance given to the Red Devils, they will take it with much more confidence, it will be easy for Enzo Maresca to fight for three solid points against Ruud van Nistelrooy?

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 01, 2024, 08:51:12 AM

Quote from: Lannakosa on November 01, 2024, 08:43:18 AM

Amorim will only be able to start working at Manchester United on November 12, because he still has three official games to work for Sporting. So van Nistelrooy will still have the opportunity to play as Manchester United head coach, it will be three games (two in the APL and one in the Europa League). And the next game will be at Old Trafford against Chelsea, a very important game considering the good form Chelsea are in, if Manchester can beat Chelsea like that, I will start to think that it really was about ten Hag.

Well, let's see what happens later when United faces Chelsea. if their interim coach manages to motivate the players and get good results in the match later, of course, all the harsh criticisms of Ten Hag are true.
United needs a lot of points to catch up at this time. Chelsea has performed better and if they can beat Chelsea, I'm sure the confidence of the players and also the fans will improve. a job that will not be easy but Nistelrooy should not have the pressure to make his players play better when they destroy Leicester.

Chelsea are doing well currently; we all know that, and if we should follow how Manchester United performance was going before sacking Erik Ten Hag, then I would say we should be expecting Chelsea to beat Manchester United for sure. But since they have a new manager now, we don’t know what type of strategy he will come with,

so we can’t conclude for now till then. But you are right with what you said; if they later fail to do as expected, the criticism on Erik Ten Hag will be in their head again. But let's wait and see what will happen when they meet with Chelsea, but United have a lot of hard work to do to meet up the points.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 01, 2024, 06:44:52 AM

Manchester United was convincing with their performances in the game against Leicester City no doubt and in as much as I totally agree with you opinions that it was because of the tactical approach Ruud Van Nisterooy adopted which was clearly different from what we were seeing when Erik ten Hag was still in charge, I suggest we wait for when the team under the interim manager will face a stronger team like Chelsea who they face this weekend in the English Premier League Chelsea before we can ascertain the effectiveness of Van Nisterooy's effectiveness.
A 5:2 win against Leicester City is a good result but winning with such amount of goal margin against Chelsea will be a great result.

If you keep the match of these two separate and emphasize the performance of Manchester United, then it is not such a special record. But in this match, Manchester United has scored 5 goals and won by 3 goals. The match between Chelsea and Manchester United will be tough but I see the victory of Chelsea because Manchester United played this match well but Chelsea is a strong and standing top team. That why I don't think Manchester United can win but they can draw the match.Chelsea are a strong team and have the power to score so many goals themselves. In which Manchester will find it difficult to score more goals. But their players manage to score first by applying pressure. So these matches as much goal as they can otherwise Chelsea will win the match by scoring more goals.
In this match, Manchester United has shown strength and speed along with good performance but the real performance will be known in the match against Chelsea.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on November 01, 2024, 08:43:18 AM

Quote from: tusandii on November 01, 2024, 04:07:02 AM

Ruud van Nistelrooy did not waste the opportunity to coach Manchester United to replace Erik Ten Hag even though it was only temporary and the results were quite satisfying even though this was only an EFL match but still this victory was very important for Manchester United who have recently experienced a series of bad results. I think Ruud van Nistelrooy could coach Man United longer but who would have thought Man United moved quickly in finding a new coach, even though I actually wanted to see Nistelrooy's abilities more at this club if it gives positive results Man United does not need to recruit a new coach but we need to respect the team's decision in recruiting Ruben Amorim.

Amorim will only be able to start working at Manchester United on November 12, because he still has three official games to work for Sporting. So van Nistelrooy will still have the opportunity to play as Manchester United head coach, it will be three games (two in the APL and one in the Europa League). And the next game will be at Old Trafford against Chelsea, a very important game considering the good form Chelsea are in, if Manchester can beat Chelsea like that, I will start to think that it really was about ten Hag.

R.V.Nistelrooy and his team are currently preparing for the match against Chelsea. They don't have time to joke around in their pursuit of the top 4 in the English Premier League standings. I agree with you. However, if that really happens, then the one to blame is their previous coach, Ten Hag, who caused so many problems in the last few seasons. However, Manchester United must forget their past to continue to focus on their important matches because their journey is still so long and there are still many opportunities to achieve it all.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 01, 2024, 08:51:12 AM

Quote from: Lannakosa on November 01, 2024, 08:43:18 AM

Amorim will only be able to start working at Manchester United on November 12, because he still has three official games to work for Sporting. So van Nistelrooy will still have the opportunity to play as Manchester United head coach, it will be three games (two in the APL and one in the Europa League). And the next game will be at Old Trafford against Chelsea, a very important game considering the good form Chelsea are in, if Manchester can beat Chelsea like that, I will start to think that it really was about ten Hag.

Well, let's see what happens later when United faces Chelsea. if their interim coach manages to motivate the players and get good results in the match later, of course, all the harsh criticisms of Ten Hag are true.
United needs a lot of points to catch up at this time. Chelsea has performed better and if they can beat Chelsea, I'm sure the confidence of the players and also the fans will improve. a job that will not be easy but Nistelrooy should not have the pressure to make his players play better when they destroy Leicester.

Manchester United have won a big win over Leicester City but I think that the victory has not proven that Manchester United has improved at the moment, so the match against Chelsea will indeed be a big challenge for van Nistelrooy later, we must to admit that at the moment Manchester United is not in good form although they have sacked ten Hag and wim the Carabao Cup match previously,So the interim coach should be able to motivate the team and win again from Chelsea to prove that they have risen at the moment, although his status as an interim coach but I think Van Nistelrooy job at the moment is very difficult to improve their position in the standings before Amorim takes over the team later, Chelsea are in better form and I think Manchester United no hope of winning the game Later.

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The Manchester United game vs Chelsea. Goals is going to rain. Expect nothing less that 4 goals. But it’s still not certain who’s taking the 3 point home as they might end up with a draw. Even in United worst form they still go toe to toe with Chelsea and still win them. But then this involves two new different coaches with their tactics. So finger crossed while we wait for the game.

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Quote from: Barikui1 on November 01, 2024, 01:31:42 AM

No, I actually thinks otherwise bro, Enzo Fernandes is very much fundamental to this Chelsea team and he also brings creativity in the middle of the park, though Latvia is also a very good player, but Chelsea mostly struggle in creating chances when Enzo Fernandes is left out of the team because the burden of creativity will lies solely on the shoulder of cole palmer, so I believe that he add more value than Latvia in the starting line up.

It is very simple to know why Enzo Fernandez is not played by Maresca because for now he is not included in the strategic plan that Maresca needs in the main squad. We may know that the coach will implement a defensive or attacking strategy based on a concept that is adjusted to the individual player abilities. In this case Enzo Fernandez likes it or not, creative or not for Maresca as long as he has the criteria needed, then the chance of Enzo returning to the main squad will be very small. n essence this is not a question of doubting Enzo Fernandez abilities but more about the coach needs.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on October 31, 2024, 10:23:13 PM

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on October 31, 2024, 05:39:38 PM

I came across this information on the media (although I haven't been able to find a direct link to a similar observation) I feel it's true in some kinda ways..
In yesterday's match, Enzo was a total disaster and I could literally see him struggle to be gain possession of the game/make accurate passes in a row. At some point, he became an easy target for Newcastle attackers.

As for Alex disasi, I'm wondering what triggered his transfer to the team... His wing was the easiest runway for anyone that felt like launching an attack... Cucurella didn't disappoint as a standard left back either!

Enzo Fenandez come into light after their victory in the World Cup where Argentina gave an outstanding performance. An exposure that brought him to Chelsea's attention and at same time raised his market value out of hype beyond what he's worth. Enzo has not really been active within his position as a midfielder compared to the likes of Covacic and Ngolo Kante in their time at Chelsea. One would have said he needs more time to improve but I think two years is sufficient to have seen him made great progress in the Chelsea addition to his leadership position as captain of the team.

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