Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 5340.

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Quote from: AakZaki on August 14, 2022, 04:29:45 AM

Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 14, 2022, 02:51:49 AM

Does Manchester United deserve to be dubbed the team of clowns now? After the humiliating defeat they suffered in the second match of the English Premier League.
It's unbelievable what they did in this match. Actually I'm not too surprised if they lose. But what surprised me and couldn't believe their game in the first half, was beyond expectations.

the match with Brentford became hell for manchester united,. This is also tainted by the less commendable behavior carried out by Ronaldo, he is not willing to apologize to the supporters and even Erik Ten Hag has forced him. Ronaldo chose to go to the dressing room instead of apologizing. I don't know what happened with Manchester United, they were no longer compact and Ronaldo was getting more aggressive. This makes Manchester United plunge below the standings with 0 points.

Ronaldo is unwilling to adapt himself to Manchester United's players. He is performing against his will with Manchester United. And so even though Brenford's defence was weak, Manchester United could not score any goals. On the other hand, we knew Manchester United's defence was weak. But the performance of their defenders was so bad it was beyond our expectations. However, unless such strange gameplay changes and the understanding between the players improves, United's performance will continue to deteriorate.

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nice simpsons meme depicting yesterday's results and the upcoming one from manchester united.
of course the next game is not played yet, but if the red devils perform like they did at brentford, the defeat will be just as significant

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 14, 2022, 02:51:49 AM

Does Manchester United deserve to be dubbed the team of clowns now? After the humiliating defeat they suffered in the second match of the English Premier League.
It's unbelievable what they did in this match. Actually I'm not too surprised if they lose. But what surprised me and couldn't believe their game in the first half, was beyond expectations.

the match with Brentford became hell for manchester united,. This is also tainted by the less commendable behavior carried out by Ronaldo, he is not willing to apologize to the supporters and even Erik Ten Hag has forced him. Ronaldo chose to go to the dressing room instead of apologizing. I don't know what happened with Manchester United, they were no longer compact and Ronaldo was getting more aggressive. This makes Manchester United plunge below the standings with 0 points.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 14, 2022, 02:51:49 AM

Does Manchester United deserve to be dubbed the team of clowns now? After the humiliating defeat they suffered in the second match of the English Premier League.
It's unbelievable what they did in this match. Actually I'm not too surprised if they lose. But what surprised me and couldn't believe their game in the first half, was beyond expectations.

They conceded 4 goals in 35 minutes. I hadn't heard in a long time that Manchester United couldn't score points in the first two weeks. It seems that Manchester United will draw a very bad graphic this year as well. I would be very surprised if he finishes the season in the top 6. Erik ten Hag's tactics did not help Manchester United recover either.

From my own point of view David DeGea was culpable in yesterday defeat against Man Utd, he made some mistakes that allows cheap goals in the first half, though he had been very brilliant in the last three seasons winning player of the season for the club, it is his duty to make goal bound saves and avoid conceding cheap goals, no doubt the other players are very horrible too, infact Man Utd attack was very poor likewise their midfield and defence, even with the exit of Pogba, Matic and Lingard from the team the club is still underperforming it's almost the same usual problem with club no noticeable changes in their player's performances.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on August 14, 2022, 03:35:19 AM

Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 14, 2022, 02:51:49 AM

Does Manchester United deserve to be dubbed the team of clowns now? After the humiliating defeat they suffered in the second match of the English Premier League.
It's unbelievable what they did in this match. Actually I'm not too surprised if they lose. But what surprised me and couldn't believe their game in the first half, was beyond expectations.

They conceded 4 goals in 35 minutes. I hadn't heard in a long time that Manchester United couldn't score points in the first two weeks. It seems that Manchester United will draw a very bad graphic this year as well. I would be very surprised if he finishes the season in the top 6. Erik ten Hag's tactics did not help Manchester United recover either.

Dominating ball possession by more than 65%, but made so many mistakes in defensive line which made them defeated by 4 goals. I can even say that Manchester United now is the worst compared to last few seasons with the other several different coaches. What would Ten Haag do for the next game? Can he make a big change to gain his first point(s) of he will get his 3 consecutive defeat? In fact they have to host Liverpool in the next game, logically Liverpool is a better team than Brighton and Bentford. I think they will get their 3rd lose next round.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 14, 2022, 02:51:49 AM

Does Manchester United deserve to be dubbed the team of clowns now? After the humiliating defeat they suffered in the second match of the English Premier League.
It's unbelievable what they did in this match. Actually I'm not too surprised if they lose. But what surprised me and couldn't believe their game in the first half, was beyond expectations.

They conceded 4 goals in 35 minutes. I hadn't heard in a long time that Manchester United couldn't score points in the first two weeks. It seems that Manchester United will draw a very bad graphic this year as well. I would be very surprised if he finishes the season in the top 6. Erik ten Hag's tactics did not help Manchester United recover either.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 14, 2022, 02:51:49 AM

It's unbelievable what they did in this match. Actually I'm not too surprised if they lose. But what surprised me and couldn't believe their game in the first half, was beyond expectations.

On the other hand, I am a little surprised, I think their impressive performance in pre-season matches is the basis for them to be better when the premier league competition starts. But what happened was really disappointing, even that was obtained from a club that was outside the top 10 of the premier league last season. Even Cristiano was played in the first half but still the inevitable defeat to Manchester United.

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Brentford has really managed to embarrass Manchester United so the statement of the Brighton coach yesterday is true, regarding his insinuation and his desire to be able to play against Manchester United every week. Lol! Maybe at first they didn't accept because it was part of a mocking statement or something like that, but the fact is Manchester United in the second week lost 4-0 and it was completely destroyed. This result is very different from what has been obtained by Manchester City because they actually won 4-0, in the next match Manchester United will play against Liverpool which of course Liverpool will not provide relief for Manchester United. When a mediocre team can beat Manchester United with a big score, then Liverpool will certainly do the same and so I'm not sure Erik ten Hag's career will last long here.

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Does Manchester United deserve to be dubbed the team of clowns now? After the humiliating defeat they suffered in the second match of the English Premier League.
It's unbelievable what they did in this match. Actually I'm not too surprised if they lose. But what surprised me and couldn't believe their game in the first half, was beyond expectations.

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For today match Chelsea vs Tottenham and according to statistics records between both of teams Chelsea can win in the last 5 matches from Tottenham and they also always be clean sheet from those matches but this time i think Tottenham performance seems very promising especially after win 4-1 from Southampton in the first week and probably Tottenham can break their bad records from Chelsea and for bet options i was think to bet draw from this match because in my opinion Tottenham will be difficult to defeated by Chelsea

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I saw the man united squad experiencing a crisis of confidence, de gea's performance was really hard to believe, the first and second goals were purely de gea's fault, he made a blunder. as well as for the man united defense which is very weak, in my opinion the crisis of confidence makes the performance of man united very bad and after all ronaldo can not help much to create goals until the end of the game.
If Man United don't quickly improve, I think the next match will be even more worrying, especially Man United will host Liverpool. and of course i have to give appreciation to brentford, their game is really beyond expectation.

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This is why we can't take pre-season games so seriously.
This was truly a massacre for them and indeed their game today was even worse when compared to their first match.
They don't anticipate counter-attacks well and this really doesn't make sense for those who do have some expensive players in defence.

Manchester United fans make us laughing because they are really confidence with pre season match achievement, we know when first pre season match success defeated Liverpool and all of United fans claimed have different with Erik tan Hag, but now what happen with them? never take serious with pre season result, what ever win or loss is not important. Right now Manchester United become terrible with twice loss on Primer League, actually Manchester United have been conceded 6 goals on two Primer League match, losing from Brighton Albion 1-2 and tonight Brentford become bad dreaming for Manchester United with losing bigger score 4-0.

Maybe they wanted to follow in Arsenal's footsteps at the start of last season lol
De Gea's performance in this match especially in the first half did not go well and there were a lot of mistakes there which made them concede goals again and again.
Their 2 matches didn't go well and next week they will have a Big Match with Liverpool which indirectly makes them more likely to suffer.

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Quote from: Davian144 on August 11, 2022, 12:43:44 AM

Ferguson's era for Manchester United has become a great history that cannot be forgotten, but Manchester United fans must also support Erik Ten Hag at this time so that Manchester United players can be even more enthusiastic and Manchester United's performance can also increase because it is for the sake of proving that Erik Ten Hag can also be able to bring Manchester United at its best.

Ferguson's shadow must be left immediately, Manchester United need to make some improvements in the squad, the two games that have been played are really disappointing, where they are not able to play consistently, even though the club they are facing is not so strong in the English league

Quote from: Furious 7 on August 11, 2022, 01:21:33 AM

We can't go back to that time now, although we really want it but at this moment United are really far from expectations.
As for Ten Hag, there are actually many MU fans who do support him and that can be seen from the enthusiasm that was given to Ten Hag when he arrived.
But there's still a lot of work for the Ten Hag to do at the moment and the one game at the start with Brighton is likely to have a big impact.

The fact that there have been two matches that have been played by Manchester United is really beyond expectation, the player looks quite ridiculous by making a very big mistake, Ten Hak has been given the trust of fans and club owners. But unexpectedly, the expectations that happened were very disappointing.

The next match will be the evaluation point, otherwise Ten Hak will find it difficult to last a season at oltrafod

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Quote from: _act_ on August 13, 2022, 02:47:22 PM

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I just can't get it. What's wrong with Manchester United? Is it really related to being unlucky or is it much more than that? As far as I can see they are not in a good place as for being lucky but I don't think that's all about them. Whoever comes to manage and save the team he just fails. There must be something inside this team that is messing up all the things for them. They had better figure it out soon because it can't go on like this. A 4-0 loss in a game like this is unacceptable.

Manchester United have started their trash right from last season, the club continues the trash this season, even with Cristiano Ronaldo, Brentford won very easily with Manchester United having the ball possession but Brentford was able to penetrate and score with more shots on goal. Best not to just go for Manchester United for now, they have a lot to change about the club. Congrats to Brentford.

The humiliating result against Brentford made Ronaldo even more reluctant to stay at Manchester United, and after the game he showed feelings of disappointment and frustration.
Ronaldo refused to interact with everyone after the humiliating defeat, including the fans. Despite disrespecting Erik ten Hag, the Manchester United manager by not shaking Ten Hag's hand after the match, Ronaldo rushed into the dressing room instead.
I'm sure if in the next game he loses again Ronaldo will leave because the club he has always stayed at is not as bad as Manchester United.

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Manchester United played so badly, mistakes were made, so they conceded 4-0, the first goal was a mistake by Goalkeeper De Gea and the second was done by Eriksen, what we saw last night was totally unexpected, that Manchester United were beaten by opponent, this is an important note for Ten Hak in the next match, that the defender is very problematic and cannot be relied on, if this change is not immediately made by Ten Hak, then it is very likely that he will not last a season as Manchester United training

Manchester United is made a joke by people today, where their first two matches lost heavily in the competition, even though their opponents are not so calculated in England, then what if Manchester United face Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea?

An important note for Ten Hak is their back line, where almost 80 percent of the mistakes made are quite fatal even the occurrence of goals comes from their mistakes, Ronaldo doesn't seem suitable anymore to be at Manchester United, because Ten Hak's coaching style does not rely on one player, meaning Ronaldo must pick up and process the ball to create goals.

Even though Ronaldo's style of play accepts passes and scores goals, especially now that Ronaldo is not as sharp as he used to be?

Swallowing defeat in the early Premier League match was really a disgrace for Manchester United, poor results (0) points in two games this season made Erik ten Hag anxious. Two defeats to Brighton and Brentford made Ten Hag the first Manchester United manager to lose back-to-back Premier League starts in 20 years.
Manchester United fans still doubt that their team will be able to win in their third match, because the opponents facing Manchester United are stronger than Brighton and Brentford. Manchester United will host Liverpool at Old Trafford in the next match, Liverpool will add to the suffering of Manchester United as well as give Ten Hag their third defeat and make Manchester United increasingly sinking at the bottom of the standings.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on August 13, 2022, 11:38:57 PM

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But in fact Ten Hak has not been able to change the game scheme, where they actually lost more than before, Manchester United really looked bad, they were not able to keep up with the promotion team, it was even very difficult to create scoring opportunities, not to mention talking about defenders who are so Bad and unable to secure his own penalty area, David De Gea made a big mistake in the first goal, so the tension of Manchester United's game was getting lower and very bad.

In the second half the United coach introduced several substitutes, so Manchester United's game was getting better, but unfortunately they were not able to score a goal to equalize.

yaps...Indeed, in fact, Erik Ten Hag really has not been able to improve MU's current situation. even worse now. even though seeing his ten hag career when he was still at Ajax it was very good. I don't know what the problem is behind the MU team. so it looks like the mentality and harmonization of their game is a bit chaotic. I hope Ten Hag can improve this team. because his reputation would be at stake here. because it's still early in the season. so there are still many opportunities for MU to rise. because if MU gets worse. can not be avoided then of course Ten Hag will get criticism from MU supporters.

The team has lost two consecutive games. Yes, that is not the start we wanted, but it's not the end we wanted either. An underwhelming performance. I pray for other matches in the future, and we pray that things will improve. Apart from the board's lack of understanding, the coach's team selection was brutal and not sincere. Liverpool will attack their miserable defense once again next weekend with another barrage of goals.

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Quote from: lizarder on August 13, 2022, 10:17:52 PM

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You are Manchester United but you are even being demolished by a team like Brentford 4-0. This is really terrible for a big team of this league. They are still no different than last season which is the worst thing a fan would imagine about their team. There must be still some management issues to be solved. We can't show this like it is all Erik ten Hag's fault. There is something bigger behind this I believe.

Manchester United played so badly, mistakes were made, so they conceded 4-0, the first goal was a mistake by Goalkeeper De Gea and the second was done by Eriksen, what we saw last night was totally unexpected, that Manchester United were beaten by opponent, this is an important note for Ten Hak in the next match, that the defender is very problematic and cannot be relied on, if this change is not immediately made by Ten Hak, then it is very likely that he will not last a season as Manchester United training

Manchester United is made a joke by people today, where their first two matches lost heavily in the competition, even though their opponents are not so calculated in England, then what if Manchester United face Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea?

An important note for Ten Hak is their back line, where almost 80 percent of the mistakes made are quite fatal even the occurrence of goals comes from their mistakes, Ronaldo doesn't seem suitable anymore to be at Manchester United, because Ten Hak's coaching style does not rely on one player, meaning Ronaldo must pick up and process the ball to create goals.

Even though Ronaldo's style of play accepts passes and scores goals, especially now that Ronaldo is not as sharp as he used to be?

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Quote from: Ahli38 on August 13, 2022, 11:38:57 PM

yaps...Indeed, in fact, Erik Ten Hag really has not been able to improve MU's current situation. even worse now. even though seeing his ten hag career when he was still at Ajax it was very good. I don't know what the problem is behind the MU team. so it looks like the mentality and harmonization of their game is a bit chaotic. I hope Ten Hag can improve this team. because his reputation would be at stake here. because it's still early in the season. so there are still many opportunities for MU to rise. because if MU gets worse. can not be avoided then of course Ten Hag will get criticism from MU supporters.

He did great things in friendly matches but when official matches come, the performance of Manchester United is bad. However, don't blame all on Ten Hag. He has his responsibility but not only him, players are responsible too.

They just under perform seriously and they should ask themselves why they played too bad and made many personal mistakes in first two matches of Premier League.

Give Ten Hag more time but many players should leave the club and find average clubs to play. They are not deserved to be at Manchester United.

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Quote from: Lantind on August 13, 2022, 11:17:18 PM

Quote from: Ahli38 on August 08, 2022, 11:19:45 PM

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But in fact Ten Hak has not been able to change the game scheme, where they actually lost more than before, Manchester United really looked bad, they were not able to keep up with the promotion team, it was even very difficult to create scoring opportunities, not to mention talking about defenders who are so Bad and unable to secure his own penalty area, David De Gea made a big mistake in the first goal, so the tension of Manchester United's game was getting lower and very bad.

In the second half the United coach introduced several substitutes, so Manchester United's game was getting better, but unfortunately they were not able to score a goal to equalize.

yaps...Indeed, in fact, Erik Ten Hag really has not been able to improve MU's current situation. even worse now. even though seeing his ten hag career when he was still at Ajax it was very good. I don't know what the problem is behind the MU team. so it looks like the mentality and harmonization of their game is a bit chaotic. I hope Ten Hag can improve this team. because his reputation would be at stake here. because it's still early in the season. so there are still many opportunities for MU to rise. because if MU gets worse. can not be avoided then of course Ten Hag will get criticism from MU supporters.

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Quote from: Lantind on August 13, 2022, 11:17:18 PM

Quote from: Ahli38 on August 08, 2022, 11:19:45 PM

correctly. and I hope in the next game MU can be better. and of course this is a tough task for Erik ten hag. because there are so many things that need to be fixed there. look at the long career of Erik ten hag. I believe Erik Ten Hag can fix it. but of course this takes time. maybe United also need to buy some players. and apart from that is how to make the players more confident. because in yesterday's match it was very clear that the players were involved so the gap was opened and we saw that the players lacked confidence. such as the lack of harmonious relations between players in the team. but still, this is where the manager's job is to make a solution and fix it.

But in fact Ten Hak has not been able to change the game scheme, where they actually lost more than before, Manchester United really looked bad, they were not able to keep up with the promotion team, it was even very difficult to create scoring opportunities, not to mention talking about defenders who are so Bad and unable to secure his own penalty area, David De Gea made a big mistake in the first goal, so the tension of Manchester United's game was getting lower and very bad.

In the second half the United coach introduced several substitutes, so Manchester United's game was getting better, but unfortunately they were not able to score a goal to equalize.

I don’t think that Erik can walk away from the blame, because he got a clear advice from the previous coach to change the squad he chose to ignore it and made sure he was forced to leave.

Furthermore everyone saw how bad McFred were last season but he yet decided to stick with them, and wasted the entire summer chasing a player who didn’t want to come, and the only player who actually knows his system Van De Beek is warming the bench so for me he should take the full blame, and few more matches like these and the supporters will turn on him.

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