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Quote from: Frankolala on September 16, 2024, 08:36:55 AM

It would have been wonderful if Manchester united can continue with the kind of performance that tgey displayed yesterday at all time whether playing against big clubs or small clubs. Southampton just came back from relegation and I don't expect anything much from them.

Manchester united winning them waa a norm and a bonus point to united. Arsenal needs to step up their midfield and improve their team performance for their next match because it should be an important win for them to stay close to their rivals.

I expected less from Manchester United against Southampton. Had it been they never won that match, I have a strong believe Erik is going to leave Manchester City because so far, Southampton hasn't win a single game since the beginning of this season neither has they draw any match, it's loss on loss even with Nottingham Forest and you expected less from Manchester united, it will be be a thing of shame not to win this match even though it's not a home match.

Also winning this match shouldn't be a signal for Manchester United comeback, there should be some improvement after two or more matches before one can think they are capable of winning future matches so you don't end up and bet on games and lose your money later.

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Quote from: naira on September 16, 2024, 09:46:00 AM

Arsenal every season tries to match Manchester City, and Arteta is indeed ambitious to beat Pep Guardiola before he leaves Manchester City. So when watching the London derby yesterday the motivation to not give Tottenham a chance was very big. When that one goal was scored, all Arsenal players felt that only that point had to be maintained until the end. And for Tottenham, even though they lost they have shown extraordinary competition, never stopping trying their best. Their failure to beat Arsenal does not mean that their players are bad in terms of quality. I admit, even though the result was a draw, it would be very worthy for both teams.

Arsenal are becoming stronger and a win against Tottenham shows their improvement of winning minimally against strong opponents in Premier League. If they can maintain it, they will drop less points than two previous seasons and this means they will race more closely with Manchester City. From the match between Arsenal and Tottenham, we can see that Arsenal still lack of a good striker like Haaland in Manchester City. They are trying to cover this weakness with combined efforts from other players but in long run, this weakness can damage their chance in a race with Manchester City.

Don't have a world class striker to convert good opportunities or half of opportunity to goals, is not good for any league title race. Manchester City can take advantage of this weakness from Arsenal and beat this competitor again.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 16, 2024, 08:20:20 AM

It was definitely a hard game for arsenal, they are not doing all that crazy all game long and they tried their best and won just with one goal so it wasn't really an easy game at all. They managed to get the three points that they needed at least and that's all that matters, at the end of the season nobody remembers how difficult the game was, they just remember the points and they got the win that they needed.

I still think that this year could be Arsenals year, they have done so well for so many seasons and they had trouble with City so far but I think City could finally have a season where they end up losing some points where they do not expect to lose, that could be very important situation. Arsenal has what it takes to win the title and they will definitely end up trying to do as well as possible, they should be considering that as something that will take a while and because of that I think it will be a great season for them.

Arsenal every season tries to match Manchester City, and Arteta is indeed ambitious to beat Pep Guardiola before he leaves Manchester City. So when watching the London derby yesterday the motivation to not give Tottenham a chance was very big. When that one goal was scored, all Arsenal players felt that only that point had to be maintained until the end. And for Tottenham, even though they lost they have shown extraordinary competition, never stopping trying their best. Their failure to beat Arsenal does not mean that their players are bad in terms of quality. I admit, even though the result was a draw, it would be very worthy for both teams.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 16, 2024, 03:35:38 AM

I can't say I was wrong about Tottenham despite the end result. I'm glad Arsenal won, but it was a lucky win, not a logical outcome. To my surprise, the City is still listed very weakly:

Manchester City - 1.91

Arsenal - 3.00

Liverpool - 9.00

Bookmakers are probably taking into account that at the end of the season City could receive a serious penalty in the form of points being deducted.

How can you even call that header from Gabriel a lucky one man?! How?who says such a thing? I can agree Tottenham Hotspur played more than them no arguments, but won't agree the goal was luckily ship into the goal post. I've known them to be this way since the time of Wenger. Tottenham had chances to score but they screwed things up.

Manchester City could win it again (5x in a row )

Arsenal ( I would love to see them winning it this season honestly, they've come so close to clinching it, could this be the lucky one for them? )

Liverpool ( They're not ready, they also do not have the squad to thrive until the end of the season.

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It is clear that due to fluctuations the results are different with the same statistics, but these statistics look more like a Tottenham win/draw than a deserved Arsenal win.

According to the news coming in, a points deduction is the least that is being discussed for City if they are found guilty. If there is any point in making outright bets, it seems to be on Arsenal/Liverpool only.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 16, 2024, 08:36:55 AM

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Sothampton is not a strong team. Currently, Southampton is in the relegation zone. I feel confident Man United will win and it happened. This condition does not describe Man United has improved. But the 3 points obtained made Man United move up the rankings.
I think Onana was the hero in this match. Onana was able to thwart Cameron Archer's penalty. It makes the mentality of the United players better. Furthermore, there is a gap of about 10 days, they will compete in the Europa League. They will fight Twente.

It would have been wonderful if Manchester united can continue with the kind of performance that tgey displayed yesterday at all time whether playing against big clubs or small clubs. Southampton just came back from relegation and I don't expect anything much from them.

Manchester united winning them waa a norm and a bonus point to united. Arsenal needs to step up their midfield and improve their team performance for their next match because it should be an important win for them to stay close to their rivals.

Although Ten Hag is still missing Tyrell Malacia, Leny Yoro, Luke Shaw, Daniel Gore and Mason Mount, I think Manchester United has the potential to maintain consistency. Because in the next 3 matches, the Red Devils will face relatively easy opponents, namely Barnsley, Crystal Palace and Twente. So they should be able to create good momentum, besides a number of injured players will be available again later. If the 3 matches are successfully overcome perfectly, then the journey to face tough opponents like Porto and Tottenham will feel easier. The victory over Southampton has made the players confidence better, and made the manager breathe a sigh of relief. There is no other way for Ten Hag to maintain his position, other than leading his team to victory in every competition. Tickets to the Champions League and the Europa League trophy sound realistic to achieve if he continues to perform consistently.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 14, 2024, 11:38:49 AM

Football is full of surprises and this is what makes gamblers to lose their bet because who on earth will believe that Liverpool will lose to Nottingham in Anfield. It was a shock to me because I lost my bet, personally I think the players were tired from the way they played or due to fatigue from the break.

Nottingham will be so happy to have full three point from a big club like Liverpool. Arne Slot should be prepared to win his next match to close the point gap. Only City have not lost any of their match.

This weekend is full of unexpected outcomes, I don't think any gambler will win money during the weekend games. On Saturday, Liverpool played Nottingham Forest at home. Although I didn't watch the match, I saw the score at the end and saw that Liverpool lost even though they dominated the match. I thought maybe a red card was given to one of the Liverpool players, but it is clear that Liverpool played the entire minute with all of their players and still lost. Many people will lose their bets since we do not expect Liverpool's first defeat of the season against Nottingham Forest.

It was Arne Slot's first defeat of the season as Liverpool manager. Of course, Nottingham Forest will be happy with the victory because they have not defeated Liverpool at Anfield in a very long time. Arne Slot's team must improve to win the next home games against weak clubs to avoid disappointing their fans, as they did against Nottingham Forest.

Of course, a lot og people lost their bet on that match because everyone believed that it will be an easy win for Liverpool but it was ghe other way. I think that Arne Slot is trying to focus more on Liverpool match against Milan in UCL and that's why henever prepared his men mindset on winning Nottingham.

Whatever the case may be Slot should just do whatever he feels will work for him as he is on charge
His concern should be how Liverpool wil win the league or finish on top four on tje table.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 16, 2024, 03:35:38 AM

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After Liverpool's defeat yesterday I am pessimistic and expect Arsenal to lose points too, it will probably be a dull season where City will dominate again (and Haaland will score 70 goals haha). I won't bet but I think Tottenham double chance at 1.50 is the right choice as Tottenham are underrated and Arsenal are overrated.
No matter how Arsenal play today, I expect that after this round City's odds for the title will rise to 1.4-1.5.

I can't say I was wrong about Tottenham despite the end result. I'm glad Arsenal won, but it was a lucky win, not a logical outcome. To my surprise, the City is still listed very weakly:

Manchester City - 1.91

Arsenal - 3.00

Liverpool - 9.00

Bookmakers are probably taking into account that at the end of the season City could receive a serious penalty in the form of points being deducted.

Arsenal is getting stronger and stronger all the way. I did not expected a win but I hoped for a victory for the Gunners and Tottenham didn’t make it easy for Arsenal yesterday.

What makes everyone so confident that Manchester City is going to be found guilty of the 115 charges? The City case is taking longer than Everton’s which means the premier league cannot make the charges stick. It didn’t take long before the other clubs were fined and punished. Which is why I believe Manchester City may not be found guilty of breaking the FFP rules.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 14, 2024, 11:38:49 AM

Football is full of surprises and this is what makes gamblers to lose their bet because who on earth will believe that Liverpool will lose to Nottingham in Anfield. It was a shock to me because I lost my bet, personally I think the players were tired from the way they played or due to fatigue from the break.

Nottingham will be so happy to have full three point from a big club like Liverpool. Arne Slot should be prepared to win his next match to close the point gap. Only City have not lost any of their match.

This weekend is full of unexpected outcomes, I don't think any gambler will win money during the weekend games. On Saturday, Liverpool played Nottingham Forest at home. Although I didn't watch the match, I saw the score at the end and saw that Liverpool lost even though they dominated the match. I thought maybe a red card was given to one of the Liverpool players, but it is clear that Liverpool played the entire minute with all of their players and still lost. Many people will lose their bets since we do not expect Liverpool's first defeat of the season against Nottingham Forest.

It was Arne Slot's first defeat of the season as Liverpool manager. Of course, Nottingham Forest will be happy with the victory because they have not defeated Liverpool at Anfield in a very long time. Arne Slot's team must improve to win the next home games against weak clubs to avoid disappointing their fans, as they did against Nottingham Forest.

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I swear if Liverpool loses a 1.29 after a 1.22 this would be one hell of an event!

Quote from: asriloni on September 16, 2024, 04:24:06 AM

Well, that's the point. It's risky to bet on the city. They could face a sanction. Betting on them means if we're also betting City to win the legal action against PL. It all depends on the court's decision. However, their odds are slightly down since they beat Brentford. It has gone from 2.05 to below 2.

Then pretty simple, bet on them and put an insurance bet on them being relegated, cause with 115 points deduction you have these odds for relegation

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Stakes offers even better odds for that, 13:1

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 16, 2024, 08:02:49 AM

As I have said in previous posts, Odegaard's role is very important for Arsenal. Moreover, Rice is also absent due to a red card sanction. When these two players are absent, Arsenal find it difficult to dominate the match. Although Arsenal eventually won, the results they got were less than satisfactory. As we often discuss in many other posts, Arsenal really needs a pure striker when they have difficulty scoring goals. It doesn't mean that Harvertz, G. Jesus, Trossard are not competent, but they need a striker who can really be a Target Man in this case. For example, City, they can rely on Halaand in terms of scoring goals. In addition, other players can also score goals if they have the opportunity. Even so, I'm quite happy that Arsenal is back on the winning track. Thus, only two points away from the current leader of the standings occupied by Manchester City. And hopefully, Odegaard will recover soon and so will some of the newcomers, hopefully they will be fit to play their matches.

Honestly speaking the both players (Rice and Odegaard) are very important and there absence made the Arsenal side to be weak even if they got a win. And is really bad to see that whenever a key player is serving a ban or out due to injury it shows, which is not good for other teams to know their weakness, so Arsenal only prove that they can't play good football without some of these key players.
Other players can score goals but like you said Arsenal need a natural number 9, that position is extremely vacant, let's forget the fact that Kai Havertz is running that position and getting goals, no he's not a complete striker to me, no doubt he's trying but Arteta and Edu need to get someone to help the team.
Even if Odegaard takes like 2 more weeks to recover from his injury I still think Arteta need a plan B to get the business done because relying on a particular player isn't healthy if you want to win the league title and we know how Manchester City operate, when they need something they go all out for it, so I think Arteta need to reshuffle the team in case any sort of injuries or suspension comes up.

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This match was quite competitive, but it cannot be denied that Manchester United was superior in every way compared to the Southampton players. The reason is that in that match Manchester United managed to score 3 goals against Southampton and Southampton were unable to score a single goal in that match. Apart from that, even though Manchester United managed to win this match, this was not able to bring Manchester United further up the rankings. The reason is that after this victory Manchester United only ranked 10th in the Premier League with 6 points. So Manchester United needs more wins to continue to climb the rankings in the Premier League. Apart from that, this victory over Southampton cannot be used as a benchmark that Manchester United's performance has improved. Because it takes a fairly balanced opponent to judge how well Manchester United is currently performing.

But even so, Ten Hag and the Manchester United players should celebrate this victory. Because after all, Ten Hag and the Manchester United players achieved this victory with great difficulty. But Ten Hag and the Manchester United players also cannot be satisfied with just winning this match. Because there are still many other matches and also stronger opponents waiting for Manchester United.

Southampton are not ready for the premier league imo. They had the game under control in the first 30minutes but they failed to take the lead and then Manchester United took advantage few minutes after as De ligt converted from a cross to give Manchester United the lead. United were able to get three goals at the back of the net to seal all three points. Good game for the red devils. Let’s see if they can build on from this result going forward to get more positive results.

Yes, I also agree with your opinion, Southampton doesn't seem completely ready to compete in the Premier League. Because this can be seen from the 4 matches that Southampton has played so far and the results have all ended in defeat. Maybe Southampton actually needs more experienced players and coaches to be able to compete better in the English league. Because the English league is not a place for ordinary teams, but the English league contains teams that are truly very strong. So, if for example a team does not have thorough preparation, it will definitely end up being relegated from the English league again. Likewise with Southampton, I think this season, if you look at their current performance, they will most likely be relegated again. But for now, let's just see how far Southampton can compete in the English league. And yes, hopefully Manchester United's victory in this match can motivate their players even more so they can continue to produce better results in the matches they face in the coming week.

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Quote from: Luzin on September 16, 2024, 04:13:34 AM

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Perhaps Ten Hag realized his mistake. However, ten Hag could not find a suitable replacement for Hojlund. I think Hojlund's return to the squad will bring more stability to Manchester United's performance.

Sothampton is not a strong team. Currently, Southampton is in the relegation zone. I feel confident Man United will win and it happened. This condition does not describe Man United has improved. But the 3 points obtained made Man United move up the rankings.
I think Onana was the hero in this match. Onana was able to thwart Cameron Archer's penalty. It makes the mentality of the United players better. Furthermore, there is a gap of about 10 days, they will compete in the Europa League. They will fight Twente.

It would have been wonderful if Manchester united can continue with the kind of performance that tgey displayed yesterday at all time whether playing against big clubs or small clubs. Southampton just came back from relegation and I don't expect anything much from them.

Manchester united winning them waa a norm and a bonus point to united. Arsenal needs to step up their midfield and improve their team performance for their next match because it should be an important win for them to stay close to their rivals.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 16, 2024, 08:20:20 AM

It was definitely a hard game for arsenal, they are not doing all that crazy all game long and they tried their best and won just with one goal so it wasn't really an easy game at all. They managed to get the three points that they needed at least and that's all that matters, at the end of the season nobody remembers how difficult the game was, they just remember the points and they got the win that they needed.

Both teams played well and created many opportunities but Arsenal played a little better and deserved this win. It is a disappointed defeat with Tottenham as they wasted some opportunities to have goals including a distant shot of Kulusevski in injury time of the second half. Tottenham shown their strength and good ability to switch from defense to counter attack as well as in proactive attacks but they had to pay high cost with not too good ability of finishing in this match.

Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 16, 2024, 08:02:49 AM

As I have said in previous posts, Odegaard's role is very important for Arsenal. Moreover, Rice is also absent due to a red card sanction. When these two players are absent, Arsenal find it difficult to dominate the match.

Both midfielders are very important with Arsenal. Odegaard is helpful for Arsenal with ball possession and key passes as well as assists and goals. Rice is super important with Arsenal's defense system as he can provide a second layer of defense in the midfield and can help to block counter attacks of opponents early to reduce attacking pressure on his defender team mates.

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It was definitely a hard game for arsenal, they are not doing all that crazy all game long and they tried their best and won just with one goal so it wasn't really an easy game at all. They managed to get the three points that they needed at least and that's all that matters, at the end of the season nobody remembers how difficult the game was, they just remember the points and they got the win that they needed.

I still think that this year could be Arsenals year, they have done so well for so many seasons and they had trouble with City so far but I think City could finally have a season where they end up losing some points where they do not expect to lose, that could be very important situation. Arsenal has what it takes to win the title and they will definitely end up trying to do as well as possible, they should be considering that as something that will take a while and because of that I think it will be a great season for them.

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Quote from: Accardo on September 16, 2024, 04:41:41 AM

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However, Arsenal players were still confident enough to be able to win the match by taking advantage of the opportunities available because it would be useless if a team was able to control the ball more but could not score a single goal which ultimately made them lose to the visiting team. Currently there are six Arsenal players who are still injured, but I am still quite sure that Arsenal can still perform well with a squad that is still fit at this time.

That's the reason Arsenal is respected, they have the synergy of utilizing their chances or opportunities. Even when all odds was against them in the Tottenham match, the gunners were able to display their opportunistic skill.

As I have said in previous posts, Odegaard's role is very important for Arsenal. Moreover, Rice is also absent due to a red card sanction. When these two players are absent, Arsenal find it difficult to dominate the match. Although Arsenal eventually won, the results they got were less than satisfactory. As we often discuss in many other posts, Arsenal really needs a pure striker when they have difficulty scoring goals. It doesn't mean that Harvertz, G. Jesus, Trossard are not competent, but they need a striker who can really be a Target Man in this case. For example, City, they can rely on Halaand in terms of scoring goals. In addition, other players can also score goals if they have the opportunity. Even so, I'm quite happy that Arsenal is back on the winning track. Thus, only two points away from the current leader of the standings occupied by Manchester City. And hopefully, Odegaard will recover soon and so will some of the newcomers, hopefully they will be fit to play their matches.

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Quote from: Akbarkoe on September 16, 2024, 04:07:24 AM

Arsenal were really in control of Tottenham in this match, they did play the ball a little more than Tottenham, it looked sad in my opinion, the only goal that Gabriel got from a corner kick in the 64th minute marked Arsenal's victory, Raya fought very hard, he blocked the ball that came to his goal, he was quite great in this match, but I think Arteta needs to improve how Arsenal must be consistent in playing the ball so that the opponent's chances are not too many to build a dangerous attack.

That's true, Arteta is a graduate of Pep Guardiola school of football after all and he cares about having the control of the ball and they passed like crazy, they are not really dealing with the situation all that much, we should remember that we are seeing something changing because he also likes to attack from the middle a lot as well, so they really do deal with the ball as much as they want to and that's a very important deal.

I think we need to remember that Arsenal is playing very close to Manchester City in tactic and I believe that we are going to see these two teams change the whole premier league because they are getting the wins like this and dominate the opponents they play against and we are seeing them do so much fine, which makes everyone else see that is the way to play as well. I believe that's going to be quite sacred from now on and everyone will start to play the same type of football or at least try to keep the ball more often.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on September 15, 2024, 09:24:05 PM

Arsenal won by just one goal at home to Tottenham although it was a hard fought win. There was no shortage of tension between the two teams, with Tottenham attacking Arsenal a lot but in the 64th minute Arsenal scored a goal to equalise. Despite a lot of attacks, Tottenham could not get the ball out of Arsenal's goal, due to which they lost at home. However, Arsenal is currently in the second position of the points table in the EPL, Manchester City is still the strongest this season, to compete against them, Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle teams need to play better. If Arsenal can improve their performance, they can certainly compete against Manchester City.

The loss of several important pillars was really felt in last night's match, what else can Arsenal do? Arsenal must focus more on maintaining the depth of their defense and it was very successful, Tottenham who had many opportunities and controlled the midfield could not penetrate the defense built by Arsenal, especially I was amazed by Raya in the first half he made many important saves and kept a clean sheet in last night's match.
In the second half Gabriel Magalhase changed the score to 1-0, Arsenal really deserved to win last night's match.
And Arsenal's real test is in week 5 they will visit Man City's headquarters, I am curious about the tactics that Arteta will use in the match considering the injuries suffered by the main players.

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Quote from: Accardo on September 16, 2024, 04:41:41 AM

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However, Arsenal players were still confident enough to be able to win the match by taking advantage of the opportunities available because it would be useless if a team was able to control the ball more but could not score a single goal which ultimately made them lose to the visiting team. Currently there are six Arsenal players who are still injured, but I am still quite sure that Arsenal can still perform well with a squad that is still fit at this time.

That's the reason Arsenal is respected, they have the synergy of utilizing their chances or opportunities. Even when all odds was against them in the Tottenham match, the gunners were able to display their opportunistic skill.

I agree with you, looking at the goals the Gunners got that earned then the victory, it will become clear that creating opportunities for their selves is something they take upon their self and further follow it up to the point where they got the victory, all through the first half they had almost no opportunity to create a chance for a goal and the second half was almost coming with same pattern until the corner kick where Gabriel who was supposed a defender came to give a header after making a brilliant move that channeled attention to other players and he got to save the day for Arsenal, top notch brilliance was all I saw been displayed at that point.

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Quote from: tusandii on September 16, 2024, 04:03:20 AM

Erling Haaland will continue to be the best player that Man City has as long as he does not get injured then the club will continue to appear strong in the last 3 seasons no Premier League player has been able to match the score he has produced.

Haaland began this season very amazing with 9 goals so far and a second scorer in the list of best scorers in Premier League 2024 - 2025 season is from Liverpool, Diaz with only 3 goals. After early matches, the goal gap created by Haaland is already 6 goals and in a Premier League without Harry Kane, Haaland has very good opportunity to win the league best scorer award again. This award, if he achieves it, will be a third consecutive personal award as a best league scorer for Haaland.

This beast striker left Dortmund and Bundesliga to join Manchester City and Premier League to make new records in the league. He is going to break many more records and if he stays in the league like next 10 seasons, who know what will be his limit?

Now Haaland is at 64th rank with 72 goals but remember that he has only two completed seasons there.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 16, 2024, 03:35:38 AM

I can't say I was wrong about Tottenham despite the end result. I'm glad Arsenal won, but it was a lucky win, not a logical outcome. To my surprise, the City is still listed very weakly:

Manchester City - 1.91

Arsenal - 3.00

Liverpool - 9.00

Bookmakers are probably taking into account that at the end of the season City could receive a serious penalty in the form of points being deducted.

How can you even call that header from Gabriel a lucky one man?! How?who says such a thing? I can agree Tottenham Hotspur played more than them no arguments, but won't agree the goal was luckily ship into the goal post. I've known them to be this way since the time of Wenger. Tottenham had chances to score but they screwed things up.

Manchester City could win it again (5x in a row )

Arsenal ( I would love to see them winning it this season honestly, they've come so close to clinching it, could this be the lucky one for them? )

Liverpool ( They're not ready, they also do not have the squad to thrive until the end of the season.

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