Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 6353.

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Quote from: Avirunes on January 27, 2022, 03:56:10 PM

Quote from: coderben on January 27, 2022, 12:26:34 PM

Newcastle are really in an interesting condition now. They are one of the richest clubs in the world now but they are in the relegation area in the league at the same time. They must really start showing a much better performance than now. Otherwise they are in danger of relegating from the league. And after that, I don't think that bigger names would be eager to come to a club which are in the second league of their country. A really tough future would wait for them then.

They are making some key signings and there are more to come soon. By the end of the transfer window I am sure they are gonna confirm one or two more, so now at least I think they are gonna perform better than what they showed us still now. I am still surprised about the Bruno Guimares moving to Newcastle and I am sure other players will also start to think Newcastle as a team to start their PL adventure.

Honestly it's quite a gamble for those players as well as team is in relegation.

Currently, Newcastle United is most talked topic in soccer community because they are richest and sadly now they are at 18th position in Premier League which is never been ideal for any team last but not least they have very difficult chance of surviving even spending good money because it's not all about money it needs some good strategy and off the field things as well right now they are going to face Everton in next match if they won and Norwich will also win then they will be on their place and in another match if Watford beat Burnley or Burnley beat Watford they are going to drop some more mean very tricky situation for all relegation zone teams with just Norwich's one win can create more interest now we have to wait for some good time about result who is going down and who is staying here for next season.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on January 27, 2022, 04:25:38 PM

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That's true. Man Utd problems goes beyond a poor defense or a non-performing frontline. It's an overall team inconsistencies - Man Utd's midfield isn't fluid too. We have fred and someone like Matic that keeps delivering poor performance every other day. What I do know that, a coach can have a positive influence on a team enough to get them to winning ways. You don't need the best players in the world to make a great team

If I remember correctly, Liverpool was in a similar place and we lost our best players at the time - Coutunh, Suarez and even sterling. Klopp came in and turned regular players like Arnold and Robertson to stars.

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Quote from: Altryist on January 27, 2022, 04:15:46 PM

Quote from: Rockstarguy on January 27, 2022, 03:48:13 PM

Rangnick is not the fault for Manchester United not performing well, the problem Manchester United is having right now could be no good defence from the players and lack of good strategy of players . I think coach is not the problem at all, the players needs to work harder in their defense.

The strategy in the team is completely dependent on the coach, the players cannot decide on their own what and how to do on the field. Why then would a coach be needed at all? Moreover, if the player does not comply with the coach's instructions for the game, then the coach will simply not let him on the field. And the problem of Manchester is just in the coach, because there are plenty of good players in the team, but they cannot play as a team, because there is no philosophy and team spirit, and the coach must fix all this in the team.

Totaly agree with you since the new coach came we didnt see much improvement in man united team but it is a bit soon to judge the coach since he might have some players who are not compatible with his play style i think man united need some new players because simply some of them are not on the level of such a big club.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on January 27, 2022, 03:48:13 PM

Rangnick is not the fault for Manchester United not performing well, the problem Manchester United is having right now could be no good defence from the players and lack of good strategy of players . I think coach is not the problem at all, the players needs to work harder in their defense.

Yes I know it's just that some people protested Rangnick performance considered failing to unite the team. I understand Man united defense is very bad even the worst among the top 4 conceding 30 goals in 22 matches is the worst record in scoring goals Man united is also low even though they have some great players means something is wrong on the front lines, is it the selfishness of every player or indeed haven't found a suitable teammate yet.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on January 27, 2022, 03:48:13 PM

Rangnick is not the fault for Manchester United not performing well, the problem Manchester United is having right now could be no good defence from the players and lack of good strategy of players . I think coach is not the problem at all, the players needs to work harder in their defense.

The strategy in the team is completely dependent on the coach, the players cannot decide on their own what and how to do on the field. Why then would a coach be needed at all? Moreover, if the player does not comply with the coach's instructions for the game, then the coach will simply not let him on the field. And the problem of Manchester is just in the coach, because there are plenty of good players in the team, but they cannot play as a team, because there is no philosophy and team spirit, and the coach must fix all this in the team.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 27, 2022, 07:07:29 AM

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Ole has been good at certain tasks and United's progress is evident from what you have shown, but this season United under Ole has failed completely. This is a fact that cannot be ignored. United have the second most valuable squad in the league and should at least be in contention for the title. But you see what's happening.

Yes I get that this season wasn't his best as a manager but I find the previous post saying he's "bad luck" as unfair.

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Quote from: coderben on January 27, 2022, 12:26:34 PM

Newcastle are really in an interesting condition now. They are one of the richest clubs in the world now but they are in the relegation area in the league at the same time. They must really start showing a much better performance than now. Otherwise they are in danger of relegating from the league. And after that, I don't think that bigger names would be eager to come to a club which are in the second league of their country. A really tough future would wait for them then.

They are making some key signings and there are more to come soon. By the end of the transfer window I am sure they are gonna confirm one or two more, so now at least I think they are gonna perform better than what they showed us still now. I am still surprised about the Bruno Guimares moving to Newcastle and I am sure other players will also start to think Newcastle as a team to start their PL adventure.

Honestly it's quite a gamble for those players as well as team is in relegation.

coderben, new money won't do much for now. We will probably see the effects of the changes two or three years from now. It's possible they will be relegated this season but they will be back for sure.

Avirunes, who are these other new or potential signings?

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Quote from: coderben on January 27, 2022, 12:26:34 PM

Newcastle are really in an interesting condition now. They are one of the richest clubs in the world now but they are in the relegation area in the league at the same time. They must really start showing a much better performance than now. Otherwise they are in danger of relegating from the league. And after that, I don't think that bigger names would be eager to come to a club which are in the second league of their country. A really tough future would wait for them then.

They are making some key signings and there are more to come soon. By the end of the transfer window I am sure they are gonna confirm one or two more, so now at least I think they are gonna perform better than what they showed us still now. I am still surprised about the Bruno Guimares moving to Newcastle and I am sure other players will also start to think Newcastle as a team to start their PL adventure.

Honestly it's quite a gamble for those players as well as team is in relegation.

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Quote from: kro55 on January 27, 2022, 11:29:06 AM

Manchester United need a coach who can blend in well with the players. To build a friendly relationship with the players, the players need to find out the problems. Every Manchester United player is talented enough. We have seen a lot of good performances from them in the past. But now their team performance is not good. Because the mutual bond between the players is not good.
Zidane is a very experienced coach. The team will be stronger if he coaches Manchester United. Because they already have a strong squad. Zidane will only work to build bonding between the players. And I believe he can do this very well.

Even though it's like that, we also can't blame the current coach because Rangnick is still in the adaptation phase now. we can see ole few seasons can say that he is not very suitable after seeing the performance in the previous season which was quite good. And now rangnick has only played a few games with Manchester United and we want to think that is really bad? I think it's still too early

Yes, we don't know how long we keep blaming the coach same thing happened to the previous coach will it continue to the next coach? we need to find another reason
Maybe adaptation is still needed there and waiting for the transfer window to open the coach knows exactly what kind of players he needs. I'm guessing Rangnick will have a longer place at Man United maybe more than Solskjær.

Rangnick is not the fault for Manchester United not performing well, the problem Manchester United is having right now could be no good defence from the players and lack of good strategy of players . I think coach is not the problem at all, the players needs to work harder in their defense.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on January 27, 2022, 02:55:51 PM

Quote from: kro55 on January 27, 2022, 11:29:06 AM

Manchester United need a coach who can blend in well with the players. To build a friendly relationship with the players, the players need to find out the problems. Every Manchester United player is talented enough. We have seen a lot of good performances from them in the past. But now their team performance is not good. Because the mutual bond between the players is not good.
Zidane is a very experienced coach. The team will be stronger if he coaches Manchester United. Because they already have a strong squad. Zidane will only work to build bonding between the players. And I believe he can do this very well.

Even though it's like that, we also can't blame the current coach because Rangnick is still in the adaptation phase now. we can see ole few seasons can say that he is not very suitable after seeing the performance in the previous season which was quite good. And now rangnick has only played a few games with Manchester United and we want to think that is really bad? I think it's still too early

Yes, we don't know how long we keep blaming the coach same thing happened to the previous coach will it continue to the next coach? we need to find another reason
Maybe adaptation is still needed there and waiting for the transfer window to open the coach knows exactly what kind of players he needs. I'm guessing Rangnick will have a longer place at Man United maybe more than Solskjær.

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Quote from: kro55 on January 27, 2022, 11:29:06 AM

Manchester United need a coach who can blend in well with the players. To build a friendly relationship with the players, the players need to find out the problems. Every Manchester United player is talented enough. We have seen a lot of good performances from them in the past. But now their team performance is not good. Because the mutual bond between the players is not good.
Zidane is a very experienced coach. The team will be stronger if he coaches Manchester United. Because they already have a strong squad. Zidane will only work to build bonding between the players. And I believe he can do this very well.

Even though it's like that, we also can't blame the current coach because Rangnick is still in the adaptation phase now. we can see ole few seasons can say that he is not very suitable after seeing the performance in the previous season which was quite good. And now rangnick has only played a few games with Manchester United and we want to think that is really bad? I think it's still too early

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Quote from: coderben on January 27, 2022, 12:26:34 PM

Newcastle are really in an interesting condition now. They are one of the richest clubs in the world now but they are in the relegation area in the league at the same time. They must really start showing a much better performance than now. Otherwise they are in danger of relegating from the league. And after that, I don't think that bigger names would be eager to come to a club which are in the second league of their country. A really tough future would wait for them then.

They have to survive this season indeed but regarding the actual position, well it requires a lot of efforts..
They are in the 18th spot right now but they are 1-3 matches in advance comparing to Burnley and Watford and they will be 19th for sure after Burnley and Watford game in the next week. Nevertheless, the remaining games for Newcastle aren't that hard except the top 5 which means they could survive indeed if they keep avoiding defeats at least..

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Quote from: tyz on January 27, 2022, 11:30:24 AM

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Manchester United needs a manager who will be as stellar as the players he is trying to manage, maybe that will give a good result. Ole and Carrick are nothing like those coaches. If the players do not understand the subordination, then the discipline in the team suffers and all plans fall apart. Maybe Zidane would be a good option for Manchester - he knows how to connect with the players and he is a star both as a player and as a manager.

Zidane already didn't work properly at Real, although he knew the club and some players well from his active days. He never played in England and therefore doesn't know the mentality there well. This is very different from Spain or Italy. And I don't know of any example where a top player successfully coached a top club a few years after he quit as a player. Such experiments have mostly gone wrong in the past. In my opinion, the problem at ManU is the composition of the players and not the coach itself. ManU's management needs to clean up the squad before success can return.

All those who understands football do just as you've said, Pep Guardiola did the same thing at Manchester City when he arrived, and giving every single player competition.
What I mean by competition is not relying on Raheem Sterling or Mahrez, he's got back up plans when his first team not doing good.
Without winning the Premier league for some time now, I think vthats the major trophy they're out for, with a good understanding of the English premier league Pochetino will be better for me.
He is best suitable coach for the job.

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Quote from: kro55 on January 27, 2022, 11:29:06 AM

Zidane is a very experienced coach. The team will be stronger if he coaches Manchester United. Because they already have a strong squad. Zidane will only work to build bonding between the players. And I believe he can do this very well.

In case if you missed this, Zidane has stated that he had no interest in coaching Manchester United. He stated this before United decided on Rangnick as interim manager but I doubt that he will change his mind on Summer. There is alot of speculation that it is going to be Pochettino that take over in the summer and Zidane will replace him on PSG

Zidane is not the type that will risk his career trying to get back United to its prime. He is the pretty much the same type as Pep, they come then coach a stable team that has the quality to win the league

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Newcastle are really in an interesting condition now. They are one of the richest clubs in the world now but they are in the relegation area in the league at the same time. They must really start showing a much better performance than now. Otherwise they are in danger of relegating from the league. And after that, I don't think that bigger names would be eager to come to a club which are in the second league of their country. A really tough future would wait for them then.

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If Newcastle can't get out of the relegation zone, then this pumping of money will not affect the EPL in any way (at least next year) Grin

It will be funny if this really happens, but still I am sure that Newcastle will be able to avoid this scenario and starting next season will already successfully solve serious problems, and not the "interim" in the form of a return to the EPL.

This position makes it difficult for them to get the best players. If they want they also have to spend more money. The reason is they are in the relegation zone, that's what I think makes players reluctant to join together. They have to maximize some of the players who just arrived, their points difference is also not much. I think they should be able to get out of the relegation zone.

Typically, such issues are regulated by the contract - for example, if a club relegates from the EPL at the end of the season, then the player who has concluded a contract with the club has the right to terminate it without penalty. This is a fair and convenient condition for both parties. I also think that Newcastle will be able to solve the problem of getting out of the relegation zone this season, but it is never superfluous to speculate about different theoretical options.

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Honestly had the board of Man Utd allowed Micheal Carrick to continue as their interim manager till the end of this season Man Utd would have in a better position on the league, probably competing with Chelsea and Liverpool, unfortunately he step aside for the appointment of Rangnick, what improvement did Rangnick had on the team? he did nothing special to the team despite all the claims that he is an experience manager, he deployed 4-2-2-2 formation which has not yielded any positive result,Man Utd results so far had not been inconsistent though they are presently 4th on the table which is not guaranteed at the end of the season

This is what I have said few times previously that Ragnick is not even better than Carrick or Ole. Carrick did his job as interim manager in few matches very well, not sure why United decided to get Ragnick. Ragnick might be a manager with more experience than Carrick, but I'm sure Carrick know the whole situation in the squad and the whole situation in the Premier League better than Ragnick. It was bad decision from Man United not to keep Carrick till the end of the season at least.

Rangnick really only follows the path of his players who have a little extra initiative in carrying out attacks. If I'm not mistaken, we can see that on the sidelines Rangnick is at all difficult to show his aggressiveness in directing the players. Unlike Carrick, who is dominant in giving instructions. Now being in 4th place for Manchester United is still like a dream, because Rangnick has never made many changes.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on January 27, 2022, 10:51:21 AM

Manchester United needs a manager who will be as stellar as the players he is trying to manage, maybe that will give a good result. Ole and Carrick are nothing like those coaches. If the players do not understand the subordination, then the discipline in the team suffers and all plans fall apart. Maybe Zidane would be a good option for Manchester - he knows how to connect with the players and he is a star both as a player and as a manager.

Zidane already didn't work properly at Real, although he knew the club and some players well from his active days. He never played in England and therefore doesn't know the mentality there well. This is very different from Spain or Italy. And I don't know of any example where a top player successfully coached a top club a few years after he quit as a player. Such experiments have mostly gone wrong in the past. In my opinion, the problem at ManU is the composition of the players and not the coach itself. ManU's management needs to clean up the squad before success can return.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on January 27, 2022, 10:51:21 AM

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Such an experiment will still not be easy and of course it will take longer to build a team, while at the same time they want to bounce back quickly. So far Manchester United keep changing coaches and it at least makes it difficult to implement better gameplay in every match, I just hope Manchester United get the exact coach and not about star players who continue to be hunted.

Manchester United needs a manager who will be as stellar as the players he is trying to manage, maybe that will give a good result. Ole and Carrick are nothing like those coaches. If the players do not understand the subordination, then the discipline in the team suffers and all plans fall apart. Maybe Zidane would be a good option for Manchester - he knows how to connect with the players and he is a star both as a player and as a manager.

Manchester United need a coach who can blend in well with the players. To build a friendly relationship with the players, the players need to find out the problems. Every Manchester United player is talented enough. We have seen a lot of good performances from them in the past. But now their team performance is not good. Because the mutual bond between the players is not good.
Zidane is a very experienced coach. The team will be stronger if he coaches Manchester United. Because they already have a strong squad. Zidane will only work to build bonding between the players. And I believe he can do this very well.

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Manchester United has yet to announce who will be the new coach next season considering that Ralf Rangnick has only been in charge until the end of the season. Currently, there are 4 candidates who are believed to be strong enough to become Manchester United coach next season.
Erik ten Hag is a candidate as Manchester United manager next season and he is still under contract with Ajax Amsterdam, in addition there are Mauricio Pochettino, Luis Enrique and Julen Lopetegui who are very likely to take charge of Manchester United for next season but the choice is certain with the approval of Sir Alex Ferguson.

Manchester United appointed Ralf Rangnick as temporary coach to replace Solskjaer and after the season ends Rangnick will get another job at Manchester, namely as a team consultant, I think Luis Enrique and Pochettino are suitable coaches to become the next Manchester coach, Enrique has been known as a cold-handed coach who is able to bring Barcelona to bring many titles and of course Enrique has quite a lot of experience in European competitions, other than Enrique, of course Pochettino can also be a good alternative for Manchester considering his pretty good performance during at coaching Tottenham.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 26, 2022, 10:32:07 AM

If Newcastle can't get out of the relegation zone, then this pumping of money will not affect the EPL in any way (at least next year) Grin

It will be funny if this really happens, but still I am sure that Newcastle will be able to avoid this scenario and starting next season will already successfully solve serious problems, and not the "interim" in the form of a return to the EPL.

This position makes it difficult for them to get the best players. If they want they also have to spend more money. The reason is they are in the relegation zone, that's what I think makes players reluctant to join together. They have to maximize some of the players who just arrived, their points difference is also not much. I think they should be able to get out of the relegation zone.

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