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Management fully trusted with Ole although four year without any trophies and I think need revolution for Manchester United how to bring back Sir Alex Ferguson era. I think they need new coach where manage all player and make consistent on every match, now Manchester United faced problem on primer league with not consistent and many time loss chance with getting three points.

I would say that getting SAF back would be a bad idea, even if he comes back that is not a long term deal, it would help them for a few years at the most but then it would hurt them later on. I assume that the best case for them would be to sack OLE and then get someone who is under 50 years old hopefully (max 55) and then hope that he would be the next SAF.
Even if that person doesn't manage for 20+ years, at least a 5-10 range would be a lot better. I am not sure if they could find that person, it is not easy to handle the pressure that United brings, but it definitely doesn't cause any problems to test neither. By the looks of it Ole will not give them what they want, so why they are waiting for this long is beyond me.

Actually, several years of coaching are already becoming the norm in big clubs. That is, as long as the head coach brings results, he continues to work at the club, but as soon as he ceases to bring results, he is dismissed without any pity. As they say, when the team is not playing, it is easier to change the coach than to try to change the team.

But in Manchester United's situation, they have the players that can achieve a lot, players that can score or give an assist at anytime of the match and from dead spaces, this definitely makes their coach the number one reason they are not getting better results, and it probably is.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 14, 2021, 04:46:56 PM

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I can see the points people are trying to make here, but out of the last 5 games Manchester won, lost 3, and 1 draw. All that while rank 1 lost none, rank 2 lost 1, rank 3 lost 1, rank 4 lost 1, rank 5 lost 1 and then comes Manchester. All these teams ahead of Manchester need to perform worse while Manchester needs to perform better, much better! Erm, yeah...

Next game is against Watford and then Chelsea. If Manchester wins both of them, I will change my mind a little bit! Wink

Perhaps with a win against Watford and a loss to Chelsea, Manchester United can still hold on with little hope of covering the end of the year in the league with wasted opportunities. The big question is can Manchester United bounce back despite the lack of coaches they have? Believe it or not this is an opportunity for Manchester United that they should not let go of. Beating Watford and Chelsea is a must.

I exactly get what you are saying. If they want to turn the momentum around for this season and really wake up and start dreaming big with a sense of reality, beating Watford and Chelsea is a must. It would be an absolute wakeup call if they could manage to pull that off, especially against Chelsea.

Very interesting weeks ahead until Christmas for Manchester.

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Management fully trusted with Ole although four year without any trophies and I think need revolution for Manchester United how to bring back Sir Alex Ferguson era. I think they need new coach where manage all player and make consistent on every match, now Manchester United faced problem on primer league with not consistent and many time loss chance with getting three points.

I would say that getting SAF back would be a bad idea, even if he comes back that is not a long term deal, it would help them for a few years at the most but then it would hurt them later on. I assume that the best case for them would be to sack OLE and then get someone who is under 50 years old hopefully (max 55) and then hope that he would be the next SAF.
Even if that person doesn't manage for 20+ years, at least a 5-10 range would be a lot better. I am not sure if they could find that person, it is not easy to handle the pressure that United brings, but it definitely doesn't cause any problems to test neither. By the looks of it Ole will not give them what they want, so why they are waiting for this long is beyond me.

Actually, several years of coaching are already becoming the norm in big clubs. That is, as long as the head coach brings results, he continues to work at the club, but as soon as he ceases to bring results, he is dismissed without any pity. As they say, when the team is not playing, it is easier to change the coach than to try to change the team. Therefore, no head coach who trains a high-level team can safely count on a long job at the club for 5-10 years and should be ready for his dismissal at any moment. Fans and the press are already accustomed to this and at the slightest series of failures they already demand blood and a change of coach. That is why top coaches are trying to put large amounts of penalties into the contract in order to reduce the temptation of club management to take hasty actions.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 14, 2021, 04:54:16 AM

Management fully trusted with Ole although four year without any trophies and I think need revolution for Manchester United how to bring back Sir Alex Ferguson era.

Yep. Ideally, they need a new coach to change the situation but we don't know what Man United management plans to keep Ole. They may want to let him the chance till the season is over. However, it is not a good idea, how if Man United cannot finish in the top 5 on the table? They won't join any international competition in the next season. I agree with the idea to sign a new coach and fire Ole as soon as possible. It is enough to rely on him, seems no change at all. Regarding bringing the SAF era, I assume it will be never the same again. Each coach has his style and his own history, I don't think we can compare their era. Each era has its special moment that cannot be comparable with the others.

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I heard Antonio is planning to change the 3-4-3 formation to 3-4-1-2 that way he is going to play and attacking midfielder behind the two strikers which are Harry Kane and Son,and that midfield position is between Ndombele and Geovanni Locelso to challenge for it, but if Deli Alli is serious about his career he can put his self into contention too.but I would love to see how Ndombele react to prove the coach he wants the play for,when Conte was at inter that he can play in his team.

I just cant wait to see a clash against chelsea , he is one of many chelsea managers that loved really much by the fans included me , i missed him , unfortunately he has to leave in difficult reasons to say. tuchels vs antonio ... must be entertained as there will be a lot of players in the midfield lol could be around 10 players!

wonder who will become his first signing? cant really hear the transfer rumor about that though.

You're giving too much exaggeration to it. Chelsea might equally lose to Tottenham and that's not gonna reverse for the fact that you're a fan of chelsea Cheesy

I'm not a fan of the opps though but Antonio's new formation isn't gonna favor them,not at all that's what i see.
I mean how would he play 2 stickers and 4 attacking midfielders with a club like Chelsea? Of which if the midfield is broken,that ends the match for them except he has a formidable midfield but who are we talking bout here? DELE ALLI who Doesn't tackle? he is making it an attacking game though .

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 14, 2021, 01:25:12 PM

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This is football, and anything can happen; Norwich is mathematically not relegated yet, and if the right mindset and good players are brought in in January, it's very possible that they will turn things around.

The small chance is still there of course but do they have the money to make small of big changes to the team on January? The "good players" often sign up with bigger clubs so that could mean Norwich settling for available players from below mid-table or those from top clubs but bench warmers on loan.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 14, 2021, 05:03:51 PM

I heard Antonio is planning to change the 3-4-3 formation to 3-4-1-2 that way he is going to play and attacking midfielder behind the two strikers which are Harry Kane and Son,and that midfield position is between Ndombele and Geovanni Locelso to challenge for it, but if Deli Alli is serious about his career he can put his self into contention too.but I would love to see how Ndombele react to prove the coach he wants the play for,when Conte was at inter that he can play in his team.

I just cant wait to see a clash against chelsea , he is one of many chelsea managers that loved really much by the fans included me , i missed him , unfortunately he has to leave in difficult reasons to say. tuchels vs antonio ... must be entertained as there will be a lot of players in the midfield lol could be around 10 players!

wonder who will become his first signing? cant really hear the transfer rumor about that though.

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I heard Antonio is planning to change the 3-4-3 formation to 3-4-1-2 that way he is going to play and attacking midfielder behind the two strikers which are Harry Kane and Son,and that midfield position is between Ndombele and Geovanni Locelso to challenge for it, but if Deli Alli is serious about his career he can put his self into contention too.but I would love to see how Ndombele react to prove the coach he wants the play for,when Conte was at inter that he can play in his team.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 14, 2021, 03:56:45 PM

I can see the points people are trying to make here, but out of the last 5 games Manchester won, lost 3, and 1 draw. All that while rank 1 lost none, rank 2 lost 1, rank 3 lost 1, rank 4 lost 1, rank 5 lost 1 and then comes Manchester. All these teams ahead of Manchester need to perform worse while Manchester needs to perform better, much better! Erm, yeah...

Next game is against Watford and then Chelsea. If Manchester wins both of them, I will change my mind a little bit! Wink

Perhaps with a win against Watford and a loss to Chelsea, Manchester United can still hold on with little hope of covering the end of the year in the league with wasted opportunities. The big question is can Manchester United bounce back despite the lack of coaches they have? Believe it or not this is an opportunity for Manchester United that they should not let go of. Beating Watford and Chelsea is a must.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 14, 2021, 04:54:16 AM

Management fully trusted with Ole although four year without any trophies and I think need revolution for Manchester United how to bring back Sir Alex Ferguson era. I think they need new coach where manage all player and make consistent on every match, now Manchester United faced problem on primer league with not consistent and many time loss chance with getting three points.

I would say that getting SAF back would be a bad idea, even if he comes back that is not a long term deal, it would help them for a few years at the most but then it would hurt them later on. I assume that the best case for them would be to sack OLE and then get someone who is under 50 years old hopefully (max 55) and then hope that he would be the next SAF.

Even if that person doesn't manage for 20+ years, at least a 5-10 range would be a lot better. I am not sure if they could find that person, it is not easy to handle the pressure that United brings, but it definitely doesn't cause any problems to test neither. By the looks of it Ole will not give them what they want, so why they are waiting for this long is beyond me.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 14, 2021, 04:01:33 PM

if norwich beats manchester united it will be the end of manchester united this season if they don't change coach, although i still think manchester united's board should have fired the coach a long time ago while there was still time to get better results. the way things are going wrong and time is ticking, when manchester united management decides to change coaches it will be a little late

Norwich class also want to beat Manchester United and that could be a big possibility for destruction. But can Manchester United just give up this time's game against Norwich to end Ole without even thinking about leaving? As long as Ole with his style doesn't want to develop a strategy I believe Norwich can beat him with a score of 2: 1.

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if norwich beats manchester united it will be the end of manchester united this season if they don't change coach, although i still think manchester united's board should have fired the coach a long time ago while there was still time to get better results. the way things are going wrong and time is ticking, when manchester united management decides to change coaches it will be a little late

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Quote from: Avirunes on November 14, 2021, 08:56:41 AM

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There is no doubt you are correct about that, but for that to happen it doesn't only need a VERY strong Manchester United, but also a weak Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool. That is where I think it is not very likely. Chelsea will play a good season, I am very sure about that. And Manchester City is just such a strong team that I don't think MU will end the season in front of them. Of course, there is no guarantee and MU could theoretically make it, but everyone would be surprised if that actually happens.

Yeah it is very unlikely to happen now that you have pointed that out. Guess United closing in with them is the best thing that could happen but seriously United to improve a lot. Even with Bruno Fernandes who proved to be saviour of the team when team was having tough time last season is not performing very well and so are others as well. United have an easy fixture coming up and will hope not to drop points there too.

I can see the points people are trying to make here, but out of the last 5 games Manchester won, lost 3, and 1 draw. All that while rank 1 lost none, rank 2 lost 1, rank 3 lost 1, rank 4 lost 1, rank 5 lost 1 and then comes Manchester. All these teams ahead of Manchester need to perform worse while Manchester needs to perform better, much better! Erm, yeah...

Next game is against Watford and then Chelsea. If Manchester wins both of them, I will change my mind a little bit! Wink

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 14, 2021, 02:12:13 PM

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Regardless of the player's mistakes for me Ole is still Ole who is not qualified at all and remains an unsuitable coach.

Pretty sure that he is qualified to do the job. In case you dont know, Manchester United was 2nd last season. Yeah they didnt win the EPL but it was 2nd and it was good enough and he had almost the same players as last season. Maguire was pretty bad even in last season but the reason why Ole kept playing him is probably because he is the captain

As for Fred, he is decent but the whole EPL league is just keep on getting tougher each season so some improvement need to be made including subbing Fred with another player that might fit in with the new play style

For sure, Ole tried last season to get Man Utd in top spot (#2) despite the fact that they didn't start well. I remember they improved halfway through the season and even were top of the table at some point. This season, Ole has seen a couple faults in his team but has done very little to resolve this issues? Liverpool exposed most of these issues in the open and he didn't fix them and Man city exploited them once again last week. If Fred is bringing team backwards, best thing to do is to replace him. Good players like Van de beek available for selection are chilling on the bench.

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Dean Smith managing Norwich wouldn't change anything in my opinion. Still yeah he can do better than their previous manager Daniel Farke and right now board will be happy if they get someone who can get Norwich out of relegation zone and keep it safe till the end. However next season it will be different and likely that Dean Smith will be out again then.

I think as long as Norwich can improve and the manager can change this it can definitely be done considering there is still a long time to the end of this season it will still be difficult in the EPL to struggle with other teams.

The league is wide open, and the relegation battle has yet to begin, but Norwich must try to avoid what happened to Sheffield United last season, when they were relegated in mid-January after losing their first 20 games. However, looking at the Norwich side, the story is different; they've won a couple of games, and Smith can still turn things around.

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Quote from: dataispower on November 14, 2021, 03:06:40 PM

Too bad his management skills isn't effectively carried out as planned.
Quiet resignation will be embarrassing for a club legend like him,he feels he is still the right man for the job.
The board will be taken decisions soon.

Just because he's a legend then it's as if the game is still the same as he was when he played? Implementing the main and conventional center games which are currently no longer effective. That's why Ole management continues to be bad match after match. After all, there is nothing else that can be changed for Manchester United, let it be until the next transfer window pulls Ole out of Manchester United.

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Manchester City are going to play a home game against Everton. And Everton are in one of their worst shapes ever in the recent times. They had two draws and lost three times considering their last five league games. Everton actually had a decent start to this season but things have changed for them in a short time. There is an obvious decrease in their performance. And Manchester City should be able to benefit from the weakness of their opponent easily. In Etihad, I expect an easy victory for Manchester City. They should be winning by two goals at least.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on November 14, 2021, 03:00:47 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on November 14, 2021, 02:12:13 PM

Quote from: Sterbens on November 14, 2021, 02:00:49 PM

Regardless of the player's mistakes for me Ole is still Ole who is not qualified at all and remains an unsuitable coach.

Pretty sure that he is qualified to do the job. In case you dont know, Manchester United was 2nd last season. Yeah they didnt win the EPL but it was 2nd and it was good enough and he had almost the same players as last season. Maguire was pretty bad even in last season but the reason why Ole kept playing him is probably because he is the captain

As for Fred, he is decent but the whole EPL league is just keep on getting tougher each season so some improvement need to be made including subbing Fred with another player that might fit in with the new play style

Ole has a nice management skill but currently he is confused on what lineup to use and what formation to play with his current squad I just feel the present Manchester united squad is too complex for ole to analyze so he can choose a perfect game plan. What is best Is his quiet resignation

Too bad his management skills isn't effectively carried out as planned.
Quiet resignation will be embarrassing for a club legend like him,he feels he is still the right man for the job.
The board will be taken decisions soon.

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 14, 2021, 02:12:13 PM

Quote from: Sterbens on November 14, 2021, 02:00:49 PM

Regardless of the player's mistakes for me Ole is still Ole who is not qualified at all and remains an unsuitable coach.

Pretty sure that he is qualified to do the job. In case you dont know, Manchester United was 2nd last season. Yeah they didnt win the EPL but it was 2nd and it was good enough and he had almost the same players as last season. Maguire was pretty bad even in last season but the reason why Ole kept playing him is probably because he is the captain

As for Fred, he is decent but the whole EPL league is just keep on getting tougher each season so some improvement need to be made including subbing Fred with another player that might fit in with the new play style

Ole has a nice management skill but currently he is confused on what lineup to use and what formation to play with his current squad I just feel the present Manchester united squad is too complex for ole to analyze so he can choose a perfect game plan. What is best Is his quiet resignation

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 14, 2021, 02:12:13 PM

Quote from: Sterbens on November 14, 2021, 02:00:49 PM

Regardless of the player's mistakes for me Ole is still Ole who is not qualified at all and remains an unsuitable coach.

Pretty sure that he is qualified to do the job. In case you dont know, Manchester United was 2nd last season. Yeah they didnt win the EPL but it was 2nd and it was good enough and he had almost the same players as last season. Maguire was pretty bad even in last season but the reason why Ole kept playing him is probably because he is the captain

As for Fred, he is decent but the whole EPL league is just keep on getting tougher each season so some improvement need to be made including subbing Fred with another player that might fit in with the new play style

So keep Ole hoping in reference to last season? and finally the Manchester United manager didn't live up to their expectations at all but kept their hopes up for last season?

Biak let's see if this season can reach second place until the end of this year? Otherwise, it's clear that Ole is already incompetent.

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