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Quote from: W Jr. on November 09, 2021, 06:12:46 AM

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I see an important match in the fixtures on 20 November. Leicester City v Manchester City match will be played. Manchester is my favourite, but Leicester might surprise us.

Leicester are still a club that has not been very consistent this season, it seems against Man. City will not give a surprise like they got against Manchester United. because, Man City are more better in defense and attack than MU, I think Leicester will find it difficult to score goals on this match. Maybe, if lucky, Leicester geting draw, it becomes a good result for them.

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Quote from: Jasad on November 09, 2021, 02:27:18 AM

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Quote from: Ratash on November 08, 2021, 02:56:26 PM

I think there is a difference between coaching man united and west ham because man united as a big club there is much pressure on their managers to win titles, that is why many managers failed because they are not given the appropriate time since many come with their own game strategy and sometimes they fail in adopting it but i think he is already succeeding in west ham like he succeded in everton he made a strong team out of them.

yes, Leading a big team definitely has its own challenges and pressures especially fans and management that was burned by the media.
making simply one mistake in a match already got them highlighted and become news headlines.
Managers' biggest enemy is the media, which always blame them when they try to be creative and advance the team
but ended up getting fired. this is modern football that must always be perfect.

the amount of pressure, and the burden that is put on the shoulders of the coach is definitely a very heavy task that is carried on the shoulders of the coach, plus their fans who always demand victory in every game, so whoever becomes the coach of manchester united I am sure will not be able to bring manchester united to the top of the standings, in a short time, everything takes time, to build a solid team, not as easy as turning the palm of the hand,,

Everyone who accepts the offer to be the coach of a big team, he should know that he will be under a lot of pressure if the team play badly and fail
to win trophies. Supporters of a big team like Man United definitely want good results in a short time, they don't want to wait for the coach to build
a solid team. Therefore, big teams will usually look for experienced coaches. In order to immediately make the big team play well and get
a trophy. As did Chelsea which sacked Lampard and replaced with Tuchel, Tuchel proved to immediately make Chelsea win the Champions League
trophy.

So Man United should have sacked Solskjaer and replaced with an experienced coach. Moreover, Solskjaer has been given the opportunity for
two seasons as Man United coach and has proven to have failed to make Man United win many trophies. Especially this season Man United's form
has been very bad, it is very reasonable that finally according to a report from Dailymail, several Man United star players want Solskjaer
to immediately step down as Man United coach, after Man United's poor result in week 11 which was beaten by Man City at Old Trafford.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 08, 2021, 11:05:10 AM

I think Ole doesn't give the players a good mentality so this tends to not have a good attitude so it will be very different from the past until now and nowadays it always relies on strategy and that's how it is from the coach himself, for me Ole still unable to give mental to his care.
Even if Ronaldo, Bruno, Pogba are talented players, if they are surrounded by mentally deficient people, it will follow him and not improve, but his performance will decrease even more.

As surprising as it get, it is now evident to all Manchester United that the board of directors are solidly behind ole to manage the poorly motivated Manchester United players. Come what may I believe with C. Ronaldo, Paul pogba and Bruno there's still a glimpse of hope for a turn around for the red devils after January transfer window to be amongst the top four at the end of the season.

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Liverpool were seen as the favourites, but West Ham United continue their successful chart. They managed to beat long-standing unbeaten Liverpool 3-2. Liverpool's two goals were also very good. I see an important match in the fixtures on 20 November. Leicester City v Manchester City match will be played. Manchester is my favourite, but Leicester might surprise us.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 09, 2021, 03:46:47 AM

No, it comes down to the quality of your team. Coach plays a role as well of course, but if you don't have a lot of rotating options and a strong bench, you simply cannot play well in all competitions. If you try, you will probably overload players - causing more injuries, fatigue and a drop in performance.

Arsenal's team is somewhere in between - I feel they would do well in Europa League. Not in CL though, they lack quality for that.

I disagree with you at this point.Everybody knows Arsenal were a regular team in the champions league for about 13 years or so under Arsene Wenger.Now this is Arteta's era,where he is trying to build something,a collection of young players who are willing to win games together and make the club grow big.
With the way Arsenal are currently playing,you cannot say they cannot play the champions league,the young boys are really up to something,and let's look at where their form will make them end on the table.

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No, it comes down to the quality of your team. Coach plays a role as well of course, but if you don't have a lot of rotating options and a strong bench, you simply cannot play well in all competitions. If you try, you will probably overload players - causing more injuries, fatigue and a drop in performance.

Arsenal's team is somewhere in between - I feel they would do well in Europa League. Not in CL though, they lack quality for that.

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Quote from: kro55 on November 09, 2021, 01:45:00 AM

Quote from: Luzin on November 09, 2021, 12:52:07 AM

Quote from: jostorres on November 08, 2021, 03:38:04 PM

Recently few concerns already rising from many sides about work load in English Premier League which is hurting teams very badly, but they are not listening if they are able to have some less work load than surely these teams can do much better in local and European Leagues.

They have the advantage of not playing in Europe. They're starting to improve this season. But last season I didn't consider them to be the EPL's top 5 candidates. Although I didn't read much about their transfer activities at the start of the season it seems that Arteta managed to take advantage of opportunities with available players. There didn't seem to be many stars present. They slowly start to improve, their mentality starts to improve. Because I know that there are still some great players at Arsenal at the moment.

Arsenal have done so well this season because they have only focused on the Premier League. But other teams' Champions League and Europa League matches also have to be taken seriously. The players get no rest. However, Arsenal have plenty of time to rest, adjust their match strategy and improve their performance. This is the only reason their performance is improving, at the same time Arteta is doing well .

This is just bias and inexcusable. They are other clubs in the Uefa champions league and Europa league and other domestic cup competitions that are performing great. For example, West ham United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea, Napoli, Inter Milan, Real Sociedad and Real Madrid, are they not playing in these Uefa competitions? Why are they replicating their form in the domestic competitions? It all boils down to the quality of your Coach. Is he the right man for the job? Arteta lost his first three games of the season and had to change things and tried something new, now it is clicking and they now have the confidence to play any team and grind out some results. It is very obvious that you are a look a Manchester United fan.

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Quote from: Apes on November 08, 2021, 11:07:38 PM

Quote from: Ratash on November 08, 2021, 02:56:26 PM

I think there is a difference between coaching man united and west ham because man united as a big club there is much pressure on their managers to win titles, that is why many managers failed because they are not given the appropriate time since many come with their own game strategy and sometimes they fail in adopting it but i think he is already succeeding in west ham like he succeded in everton he made a strong team out of them.

yes, Leading a big team definitely has its own challenges and pressures especially fans and management that was burned by the media.
making simply one mistake in a match already got them highlighted and become news headlines.
Managers' biggest enemy is the media, which always blame them when they try to be creative and advance the team
but ended up getting fired. this is modern football that must always be perfect.

the amount of pressure, and the burden that is put on the shoulders of the coach is definitely a very heavy task that is carried on the shoulders of the coach, plus their fans who always demand victory in every game, so whoever becomes the coach of manchester united I am sure will not be able to bring manchester united to the top of the standings, in a short time, everything takes time, to build a solid team, not as easy as turning the palm of the hand,,

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Quote from: mrongoz_imut on November 09, 2021, 02:07:51 AM

Quote from: Barcode_ on November 08, 2021, 07:20:16 AM

Atletico Madrid have already lost to Liverpool twice recently despite having so many star players in their squad, and it was surely not an easy task for West Ham to beat Liverpool with the limited number of star players in their squad. I wonder how did David Moyes messed up as the manager of Manchester United in the past when he had so many star players under his lead. I guess it will be interesting to see if David Moyes could lead West Ham to gain a spot as one of the top four teams on the table in the English Premier League at the end of this season.

according to my prediction, even though west ham was able to beat liferpol and is now in third place on the standings, but i'm not sure moyes can get a ticket to the champions league, because they don't have a winning mentality, the competition is still very long, it's not easy to get all of that,, according to my prediction, only 4 teams will qualify for the champions league, as usual, chelsea, liferpol, manchester city, and arsenal or manchester united.

Nothing is impossible, if Moyes can really make West Ham more consistent, then that means West Ham have a great chance to end the season in the top four and get a ticket to the UCL. Other big teams such as Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham have great pressure from many parties, this is what makes them likely to experience difficulties in being able to enter and maintain their position in the top four. So in this case, for the 4th position it is still very likely to be contested until the end of the season, because the top 3 teams like Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool certainly have the ability to stay in the top four.

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So, Eddie Howe is confirmed at Newcastle, contract until 2024. I think that nobody expects him to fulfill it, he might get another year if he does really well in current season. A tough job, especially because he'll be replaced with a bigger name eventually even if he does everything correctly.

Norwich have approached Lampard for the manager position, while Gerrard is a strong candidate for the Aston Villa bench. Would be great to have them back in the PL.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on November 08, 2021, 07:20:16 AM

Atletico Madrid have already lost to Liverpool twice recently despite having so many star players in their squad, and it was surely not an easy task for West Ham to beat Liverpool with the limited number of star players in their squad. I wonder how did David Moyes messed up as the manager of Manchester United in the past when he had so many star players under his lead. I guess it will be interesting to see if David Moyes could lead West Ham to gain a spot as one of the top four teams on the table in the English Premier League at the end of this season.

according to my prediction, even though west ham was able to beat liferpol and is now in third place on the standings, but i'm not sure moyes can get a ticket to the champions league, because they don't have a winning mentality, the competition is still very long, it's not easy to get all of that,, according to my prediction, only 4 teams will qualify for the champions league, as usual, chelsea, liferpol, manchester city, and arsenal or manchester united.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 08, 2021, 04:18:52 AM

Arsenal's huge rise on the last weeks is very noticeable these days. They were on the brink of having one of their worst seasons considering the first weeks. People talked about the possibility of the manager Mikel Arteta's getting sacked immediately after getting very poor results. But somehow, Arsenal still managed to be reborn with Arteta and started getting very satisfactory results. They got 6 wins and 2 draws in their last 8 EPL games which is a really huge success for them. Now we are seeing them at the 5th position being only 2 points behind Liverpool and 6 points behind the leader, Chelsea.

a very good achievement shown by arsenal, now their fans are very satisfied, because they managed to return to their best performance, hopefully arsenal will remain consistent until the end of the season, and can get back one ticket to the champions league, because in my opinion that This is what their fans really hope for, myself included.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 09, 2021, 12:52:07 AM

Quote from: jostorres on November 08, 2021, 03:38:04 PM

Recently few concerns already rising from many sides about work load in English Premier League which is hurting teams very badly, but they are not listening if they are able to have some less work load than surely these teams can do much better in local and European Leagues.

They have the advantage of not playing in Europe. They're starting to improve this season. But last season I didn't consider them to be the EPL's top 5 candidates. Although I didn't read much about their transfer activities at the start of the season it seems that Arteta managed to take advantage of opportunities with available players. There didn't seem to be many stars present. They slowly start to improve, their mentality starts to improve. Because I know that there are still some great players at Arsenal at the moment.

Arsenal have done so well this season because they have only focused on the Premier League. But other teams' Champions League and Europa League matches also have to be taken seriously. The players get no rest. However, Arsenal have plenty of time to rest, adjust their match strategy and improve their performance. This is the only reason their performance is improving, at the same time Arteta is doing well .

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Quote from: Woodie on November 07, 2021, 10:30:41 AM

Arsenal finally broke Watford thanks to a Emile Smith Rowe goal, this lad keeps finding the back of the net every time i watch him play...his definitely a player to keep...as Arsenal adds another win to their record.

In other other games Everton and Tottenham are currently playing out to a goalless draw unless the result changes between now and the 90th minute whistle, i dont see any goal coming here.

And as for the game between Leicester and Leeds, the game is still tied at 1-1....Ademola Lookman goal just got denied after a VAR review which means this game could mean a possibility of sharing the points.

Arsenal since getting thrash by Man city 5-0, they have managed to:
10 games unbeaten run across all competitions
Kept seven clean sheets in those 10 games
Fifth place in the premier league table heading into the last International break of the year.
Great football. Confidence on the ball, tracking back… good performance. The better team on the pitch.
I think Arteta has Arsenal clicking it seems they are still not done yet, they may not be contenders but don't be surprised, just 6 points behind the leaders speaks volumes, watch Arsenal growing steadily. If they beat Liverpool I'll be so happy great performance I'm seeing more consistency they just need to beat the bigger teams now.

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Quote from: jostorres on November 08, 2021, 03:38:04 PM

Recently few concerns already rising from many sides about work load in English Premier League which is hurting teams very badly, but they are not listening if they are able to have some less work load than surely these teams can do much better in local and European Leagues.

They have the advantage of not playing in Europe. They're starting to improve this season. But last season I didn't consider them to be the EPL's top 5 candidates. Although I didn't read much about their transfer activities at the start of the season it seems that Arteta managed to take advantage of opportunities with available players. There didn't seem to be many stars present. They slowly start to improve, their mentality starts to improve. Because I know that there are still some great players at Arsenal at the moment.

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Quote from: Ratash on November 08, 2021, 02:56:26 PM

I think there is a difference between coaching man united and west ham because man united as a big club there is much pressure on their managers to win titles, that is why many managers failed because they are not given the appropriate time since many come with their own game strategy and sometimes they fail in adopting it but i think he is already succeeding in west ham like he succeded in everton he made a strong team out of them.

yes, Leading a big team definitely has its own challenges and pressures especially fans and management that was burned by the media.
making simply one mistake in a match already got them highlighted and become news headlines.
Managers' biggest enemy is the media, which always blame them when they try to be creative and advance the team
but ended up getting fired. this is modern football that must always be perfect.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 08, 2021, 10:20:46 PM

Quote from: Desmong on November 08, 2021, 05:02:41 PM

David Moyes is a good coach, we've gotten to see that,how consistent they can be for the past three seasons.
Coaches suit big clubs,some coaches doesn't,and David Moyes are one of those that doesn't suit's a big team but the under-dogs.
The hammer's are just perfect for him to handle.

Maybe because no pressure makes him work to be relaxed. When he works in a big club, he will get under pressure from Official, must get the win, and play well every match, the club has the target which makes the full job in the heads. In west ham, seems he is not so many targets just getting the wins and playing like his instruction, he also has enough experience in the premier league which not another coach hasn't.

Right and also, we can't make quick decisions or judgments just because of getting one win against a top team. Due to the fact, Moyes had previously managed big teams like Manchester United in the 2013/2014 season and in fact Moyes couldn't do much there, from 38 matches played Moyes could only give 19 wins, 7 draws and 12 loses. That is a very bad record for a big team, so in this case for me the victory over Liverpool cannot be said that Moyes is the best because what is difficult is to maintain consistency and that has not been fully done by Moyes.

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Quote from: Desmong on November 08, 2021, 05:02:41 PM

David Moyes is a good coach, we've gotten to see that,how consistent they can be for the past three seasons.
Coaches suit big clubs,some coaches doesn't,and David Moyes are one of those that doesn't suit's a big team but the under-dogs.
The hammer's are just perfect for him to handle.

Maybe because no pressure makes him work to be relaxed. When he works in a big club, he will get under pressure from Official, must get the win, and play well every match, the club has the target which makes the full job in the heads. In west ham, seems he is not so many targets just getting the wins and playing like his instruction, he also has enough experience in the premier league which not another coach hasn't.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 08, 2021, 01:53:15 PM

I doubt that he will be dismissed, from what I see the Manchester players lack discipline and lack of commitment, the part that the coach makes mistakes Is that when he wins a game without conceding a goal he doesn't keep the same formation and the same players, he changes everything in the game safely and does it constantly and that makes the team not stable

Exactly this but I've had some conversations with some friends lately about this and this is kinda like a different POV. Fans tend to blame Ole for this but some other POV would be that signing Ronaldo is the reason on why Manchester United failed to impress so far.
Its not that I dont like Ronaldo coming back to Old Trafford but Ole and his squad was 2nd last season. Ole had his desired squad from last season + Varane and Sancho, he basically had everything planned out then boom Manchester United sign Ronaldo. He had to change everything to suit Ronaldo's playstyle because of this then he failed to do so and I personally think this is a quite exciting POV though

In any case, the fans and the management of the team can no longer be satisfied with even the good results that the team showed last season. The team has to make a qualitative breakthrough and for the sake of this, the strengthening of the team was carried out, including Ronaldo was signed. Therefore, Solskjaer in any case had to make changes to the model of his team's game, regardless of whether Ronaldo would have returned to Manchester United or these tasks would have had to be solved without his participation. I think that for any normal coach of an above-average level, the problem of how to fit a player of Ronaldo's level is a pleasant headache, and I would not reduce all the current game problems solely to the difficulty of fitting the Portuguese into the squad. The club really does not have a great game discipline and a honed tactical game, and there is a large share of the coach's fault in this. Another question is whether the club management has at least some confidence that Ole Gunnar will still be able to fix it. Apparently, there is still such confidence, or at least hope for it.

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Quote from: bekti3 on November 08, 2021, 03:56:32 PM

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Quote from: Barcode_ on November 08, 2021, 07:20:16 AM

Atletico Madrid have already lost to Liverpool twice recently despite having so many star players in their squad, and it was surely not an easy task for West Ham to beat Liverpool with the limited number of star players in their squad. I wonder how did David Moyes messed up as the manager of Manchester United in the past when he had so many star players under his lead. I guess it will be interesting to see if David Moyes could lead West Ham to gain a spot as one of the top four teams on the table in the English Premier League at the end of this season.

I think there is a difference between coaching man united and west ham because man united as a big club there is much pressure on their managers to win titles, that is why many managers failed because they are not given the appropriate time since many come with their own game strategy and sometimes they fail in adopting it but i think he is already succeeding in west ham like he succeded in everton he made a strong team out of them.

As you said, being the coach of a team that has a great history and pursuing the goal of winning is very difficult, especially in terms of mentality and performance.
because like it or not they have to really rack their brains for the purpose they want to carry out.
maybe Moyes is very good at coaching West Ham, but that doesn't mean Moyes will play well at Manchester United.
The club level is also very different so we can't generalize about it.

Morinho is the only coach that had a good (not bad) results with Manchester United since fergeson depart, im really sad with what happen to Manchester United especially after the return of ronaldo, many people expected a good season for the man u but unfortunately nothing changed

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