Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 6724.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 14, 2021, 07:19:33 AM

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Are you sure that star players will go to Newcastle now. I think not. Star players, in addition to money, need trophies and the opportunity to declare themselves. They think about money at the end of their careers. There are a lot of things to do now before you start buying players. You need a coach, a development program for the future.

Kylian Mbappe right now is in no mood of joining Newcastle, as his mother confirms that his talks for staying at PSG are underway (Kylian Mbappe opens contract talks over staying at PSG after Lionel Messi U-turn).
Its too early to say that whether such big names will join Newcastle after recent take over by Gulf businessman, the club need an overhauling process where they need good coaches and good performances that can attract big players to come and join the club.

I don't think any star player is interested in joining the Newcastle team now. Star players will definitely want more wages, at the same time, they will definitely want to play with the same good squad and will want to win the title. Newcastle will probably provide many wages. But they can't afford to fight for the Premier League title. And I don’t think it will happen next season either. They have to slowly sort out the team.

Without participant in champion league or Europe league I think not any player interested with Newcastle United but you should remember with salary giving by Newcastle United and they want to get player although higher value transfer, maybe you can remember with how many player left best club last few years and they try challenge with Chinese super league, they play on bad league in the world but left europe league and prefer play for chinese league because giving higher salary by club. I think will the same with Newcastle United right now and they can pay more than 3x salary from his previous club.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on October 13, 2021, 08:31:45 PM

It will be shocking to see Man-united lose that match.All the sites are predicting that they win,but I have not really seen what can make them win Leicester,Even if Leicester is in a poor form,when they meet with big teams they show they are strong enough to challenge them.

Only Ronaldo cannot make Man-u come out winning that match,I know they will be expecting to win,but I don't see that coming.

If MU players are too dependent on a Ronaldo, of course it is difficult for MU. However, in terms of players quality, I think MU is still better than Leicester, I bet a draw, because I think Leicester's position in the middle will makes motivation of the players better, especially against teams that are in the top 5 standings, Leicester certainly want to prove that they are not a weak team, and they are able to can get even 1 point.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 14, 2021, 07:19:33 AM

I don't think any star player is interested in joining the Newcastle team now. Star players will definitely want more wages, at the same time, they will definitely want to play with the same good squad and will want to win the title. Newcastle will probably provide many wages. But they can't afford to fight for the Premier League title. And I don’t think it will happen next season either. They have to slowly sort out the team.

It will take Newcastle 1 year at least to 3 years then they can attract best players to join them. Like Manchester City attracted Kun Aguero but in previous seasons, they have Robinho, Santa Cruz and a few more attacking players.

Newcatsle must improve their results gradually and the investment for transfer will be very costly. We see Chelsea, Manchester City and PSG spent huge transfer fund in a decade or more to become a top clubs in the world now.

The adventure of Newcatsle will be harder because now FIFA and EUFA have more restrictions than one or two decades ago. Rich clubs now can not overspend their money like in the past.

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Are you sure that star players will go to Newcastle now. I think not. Star players, in addition to money, need trophies and the opportunity to declare themselves. They think about money at the end of their careers. There are a lot of things to do now before you start buying players. You need a coach, a development program for the future.

Kylian Mbappe right now is in no mood of joining Newcastle, as his mother confirms that his talks for staying at PSG are underway (Kylian Mbappe opens contract talks over staying at PSG after Lionel Messi U-turn).
Its too early to say that whether such big names will join Newcastle after recent take over by Gulf businessman, the club need an overhauling process where they need good coaches and good performances that can attract big players to come and join the club.

I don't think any star player is interested in joining the Newcastle team now. Star players will definitely want more wages, at the same time, they will definitely want to play with the same good squad and will want to win the title. Newcastle will probably provide many wages. But they can't afford to fight for the Premier League title. And I don’t think it will happen next season either. They have to slowly sort out the team.

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Quote from: kassex on October 10, 2021, 07:57:05 AM

Are you sure that star players will go to Newcastle now. I think not. Star players, in addition to money, need trophies and the opportunity to declare themselves. They think about money at the end of their careers. There are a lot of things to do now before you start buying players. You need a coach, a development program for the future.

Kylian Mbappe right now is in no mood of joining Newcastle, as his mother confirms that his talks for staying at PSG are underway (Kylian Mbappe opens contract talks over staying at PSG after Lionel Messi U-turn).
Its too early to say that whether such big names will join Newcastle after recent take over by Gulf businessman, the club need an overhauling process where they need good coaches and good performances that can attract big players to come and join the club.

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There is no doubt that to make Newcastle a strong team and can compete in the title race also able to play in European competitions it will take time, for the relegation zone they must be able to past it, there are still dozens of games left where they can improve their position, if they are able to get an experienced coach, the new coach will definitely be able to determine what kind of players they will buy to start building a strong team.

First they need a good coach who will not only show results but will be able to attract good players to start with. And personally i would like to see a young English specialist namely Frankie Lampard or Steven Gerrard. Steven Gerrard has been at the helm of Rangers long enough and one day he will be at the helm of Liverpool but as long as Klopp is there the road is closed to him and to coach a club from the APL before Liverpool would be a great experience.

Newcastle reportedly will sack bruce before the game against tottenham and are ready to compensate bruce as much as 8 million pounds and it looks like apart from gerrard, lampard and lucien favre are the strongest candidates to be able to coach newcastle after bruce dismissal later, especially now that lampard is not currently coaching the club after being sacked by Chelsea in January, but to be honest, I personally have very doubts if lampard will be able to form newcastle into a title challenger team in the future.

Lampard is a good specialist but i think the same as you that he rather can not build a championship team. We have to understand that not many people will want to move to Newcastle in the winter. Lampard is able to lay a good foundation and attract better players than are now in the club and this is very important for them now.

For Lampard's class, Newcastle will be full of consideration because Lampard is still too early and doesn't have much experience because Newcastle at the moment are not like before after Bruce was sacked, they have to choose a suitable coach and a suitable new player. to prove the new Newcastle is very different.
I'm not saying Lampard is not good and I think everyone knows his footprint at Chelsea and we will see who is chosen to coach Newcastle, whoever he is is already the best choice for his team.

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Quote from: hahay on October 14, 2021, 03:52:35 AM

I don't understand why it seems like they are not happy with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer because in my view Ole is doing a good job so far, there shouldn't be a big problem that Ole should be sacked. With Manchester United still able to compete in the top four I think that is enough, but if they ask Manchester United to win the title I think Manchester United's capacity is still not enough for that. I'm personally quite happy with Ole's performance in rebuilding Manchester United as it is today, because after Alex Ferguson it seems new with the Ole era, Manchester United can again compete at the top of the standings. Regarding the match against Leicester, I personally believe Manchester United will win, so there is no fault of Ole for me so far.

Did you just say Ole is doing a good job?
Did you also say Ole is rebuilding Manchester United?
And you also said Manchester United being able to stay in top for is enough for?
Honestly you made a very selfish analysis here.
Do you remember than Manchester united is not Watford, Everton or Leicester. Do you realise Manchester United is bigger than Chelsea and ors.
Do you understand that Manchester United is a club that lifts EPL, UCL, FA Cup same season?
Oops! Do you know that apart from Manchester City, no other club in England has a better squad than Manchester United?

How on earth will you want Manchester United to be ok with only being in top4 with players like Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Bruno, Pogba, Shaw, Bissaka, Varane and Maguire. Man! You are not being fair to Manchester United.
You said Ole is good right?
That should be how you were saying that Lampard was good till Tuchel came and told you that Lampard was just wasting his time and the club's time.

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Quote from: hahay on October 14, 2021, 03:52:35 AM

I don't understand why it seems like they are not happy with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer because in my view Ole is doing a good job so far, there shouldn't be a big problem that Ole should be sacked. With Manchester United still able to compete in the top four I think that is enough, but if they ask Manchester United to win the title I think Manchester United's capacity is still not enough for that. I'm personally quite happy with Ole's performance in rebuilding Manchester United as it is today, because after Alex Ferguson it seems new with the Ole era, Manchester United can again compete at the top of the standings. Regarding the match against Leicester, I personally believe Manchester United will win, so there is no fault of Ole for me so far.

Let us be very practical about this. What is the difference between the Lampard's Chelsea side and Ole's Manchester united. Lampard managed to win some games but there was no direction in the team. Thomas Tuchel came in and helped improve the team's confidence. You can not have a good team overhanging with top players and have nothing to show. It can only take a good manager to bring in that wining mentality. Tuchel's side top the Premier League table after seven games this season with a one point lead over Liverpool, look at Manchester united, your Midfield have not been contributing for as long time, and you decided to go get a right winger and till now you have not been able to device a system to make him function effectively. We all know Ole will not survive this long in many clubs.

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I think that the laws of financial fair play will not allow Newcastle to immediately create a top-level team with a roster consisting exclusively of top players.

True, I don't know how the progress of meeting by all premier English clubs before. Newcastle makes them frustrated, they have a sudden meeting, of course for discussing financial fair play also. I'm afraid of getting hit in the face because we all know, Chelsea and Manchester City, both are owned by billionaires also same as Newcastle did, this is the same as money war.

In my opinion, newcastle has the right to buy the players they want as long as they don't violate the financial pair rules that apply to all football clubs, but from some news that I've read, it seems that newcastle will be very safe in buying players in January because of finances Newcastle is now in good health and the old owners of newcastle have left no debt at all.

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I don't understand why it seems like they are not happy with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer because in my view Ole is doing a good job so far, there shouldn't be a big problem that Ole should be sacked. With Manchester United still able to compete in the top four I think that is enough, but if they ask Manchester United to win the title I think Manchester United's capacity is still not enough for that. I'm personally quite happy with Ole's performance in rebuilding Manchester United as it is today, because after Alex Ferguson it seems new with the Ole era, Manchester United can again compete at the top of the standings. Regarding the match against Leicester, I personally believe Manchester United will win, so there is no fault of Ole for me so far.

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There is no doubt that to make Newcastle a strong team and can compete in the title race also able to play in European competitions it will take time, for the relegation zone they must be able to past it, there are still dozens of games left where they can improve their position, if they are able to get an experienced coach, the new coach will definitely be able to determine what kind of players they will buy to start building a strong team.

First they need a good coach who will not only show results but will be able to attract good players to start with. And personally i would like to see a young English specialist namely Frankie Lampard or Steven Gerrard. Steven Gerrard has been at the helm of Rangers long enough and one day he will be at the helm of Liverpool but as long as Klopp is there the road is closed to him and to coach a club from the APL before Liverpool would be a great experience.

Newcastle reportedly will sack bruce before the game against tottenham and are ready to compensate bruce as much as 8 million pounds and it looks like apart from gerrard, lampard and lucien favre are the strongest candidates to be able to coach newcastle after bruce dismissal later, especially now that lampard is not currently coaching the club after being sacked by Chelsea in January, but to be honest, I personally have very doubts if lampard will be able to form newcastle into a title challenger team in the future.

Lampard is a good specialist but i think the same as you that he rather can not build a championship team. We have to understand that not many people will want to move to Newcastle in the winter. Lampard is able to lay a good foundation and attract better players than are now in the club and this is very important for them now.

1. A good coach
2. A coach that will attract players.
3. Lampard in the picture.
Having Lampard in the picture is OK as he is presently out of job. Then, will he be able to attract good players? Yes, he can do it, he still has loyalists in the field of play.
Then, is Lampard a good coach? Someone said that he is skeptical that he cannot take Newcastle to the expected height. If we cannot Trust Lampard with Newcastle and could also not trust him with big Chelsea, it therefore means he's not a good coach.

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There is no doubt that to make Newcastle a strong team and can compete in the title race also able to play in European competitions it will take time, for the relegation zone they must be able to past it, there are still dozens of games left where they can improve their position, if they are able to get an experienced coach, the new coach will definitely be able to determine what kind of players they will buy to start building a strong team.

First they need a good coach who will not only show results but will be able to attract good players to start with. And personally i would like to see a young English specialist namely Frankie Lampard or Steven Gerrard. Steven Gerrard has been at the helm of Rangers long enough and one day he will be at the helm of Liverpool but as long as Klopp is there the road is closed to him and to coach a club from the APL before Liverpool would be a great experience.

Newcastle reportedly will sack bruce before the game against tottenham and are ready to compensate bruce as much as 8 million pounds and it looks like apart from gerrard, lampard and lucien favre are the strongest candidates to be able to coach newcastle after bruce dismissal later, especially now that lampard is not currently coaching the club after being sacked by Chelsea in January, but to be honest, I personally have very doubts if lampard will be able to form newcastle into a title challenger team in the future.

Lampard is a good specialist but i think the same as you that he rather can not build a championship team. We have to understand that not many people will want to move to Newcastle in the winter. Lampard is able to lay a good foundation and attract better players than are now in the club and this is very important for them now.

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Looks like Ole will have to go to Sir Alex Ferguson's house to learn how to handle a lot of star players. I just feel sorry for a lot of potential players not playing. It was the same as slowly killing play ability. Ole should have priorities, and be able to divide his time among his players. Just look at Ole's many purchases that look useless, I even saw Van de Beek's face it felt like he wanted to cry when, Fred entered the substitution, then if I'm not mistaken he also wanted to leave Man United immediately.

Ole doesn't need to go to Sir Alex Ferguson's House as he is mostly available at Stadium, so he can learn from him, but I am feeling he is not good learner because he is spending funds and bringing players but completely fail to settle combination which is very important for team and win. He is not good strategist already have some good number of world-class players but unable to handle this all and having very poor results now it's time for bringing some good results but still team is doing very poor against team like Aston Villa and Injury hit Everton.

There have been few signings under him which went great like Wan Bissaka, Bruno Fernandes, now Ronaldo, Cavani. I think there will always be risk when you buy a player but they have made mistakes when buying players with big tags. I think Jadon Sancho is still adjusting and it will take a time for him. Give him a year at minimum to adjust and make space into team. He is decent but not that special strategist IMO to manage Manchester United.

Next game is very crucial for them as they face Leicester City who have been somewhat a title contender in the PL race for quite some years now. It should be an interesting contest.

If someone is not a good strategist, he should be a good learner or a good listener. Ole at first is always not willing to try new things, and when he does, he'll do it in odd ways. I think why he is still eased is that there is no sign of threat from the management. Manchester United currently has bunches of good players but poor management.
I don't think Sancho who is an England national team player needs such a long time as 1yr to blend to an Epl team. With the way Manchester United is now, it looks asive no player has blended with the pattern of play. It's not player problems, it is a coaching problem. This crop of players can restore Manchester United glory only if the coach will agree.

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I bet ole will either lose or draw for the upcoming matches. But Manchester United board will still let him continue to manage the club. Ole will give excuses like his best players are injured so he can't do anything about it. And you will hear him saying 'we will bounce back' almost all the time. I hope this should not be any excuse because both clubs have injury concerns too. Because Leicester city Kelechi Iheanacho was taken off at half-time during Nigeria’s shock 1-0 home defeat in their World Cup qualifier. Also Leicester are already without his fellow country man Wilfred Ndidi with a hamstring injury that is likely to sideline him into next month. Wesley Fofana, Jonny Evans and James Justin have all been absent through injury. So having team Captain and Rapheal Varane sidelined should even be a motivation for the team to win. Ole should not come with with any limpsy excuse.

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Quote from: AakZaki on October 13, 2021, 04:19:36 PM

Looks like Ole will have to go to Sir Alex Ferguson's house to learn how to handle a lot of star players. I just feel sorry for a lot of potential players not playing. It was the same as slowly killing play ability. Ole should have priorities, and be able to divide his time among his players. Just look at Ole's many purchases that look useless, I even saw Van de Beek's face it felt like he wanted to cry when, Fred entered the substitution, then if I'm not mistaken he also wanted to leave Man United immediately.

Ole doesn't need to go to Sir Alex Ferguson's House as he is mostly available at Stadium, so he can learn from him, but I am feeling he is not good learner because he is spending funds and bringing players but completely fail to settle combination which is very important for team and win. He is not good strategist already have some good number of world-class players but unable to handle this all and having very poor results now it's time for bringing some good results but still team is doing very poor against team like Aston Villa and Injury hit Everton.

There have been few signings under him which went great like Wan Bissaka, Bruno Fernandes, now Ronaldo, Cavani. I think there will always be risk when you buy a player but they have made mistakes when buying players with big tags. I think Jadon Sancho is still adjusting and it will take a time for him. Give him a year at minimum to adjust and make space into team. He is decent but not that special strategist IMO to manage Manchester United.

Next game is very crucial for them as they face Leicester City who have been somewhat a title contender in the PL race for quite some years now. It should be an interesting contest.

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Quote from: AakZaki on October 13, 2021, 04:19:36 PM

Looks like Ole will have to go to Sir Alex Ferguson's house to learn how to handle a lot of star players. I just feel sorry for a lot of potential players not playing. It was the same as slowly killing play ability. Ole should have priorities, and be able to divide his time among his players. Just look at Ole's many purchases that look useless, I even saw Van de Beek's face it felt like he wanted to cry when, Fred entered the substitution, then if I'm not mistaken he also wanted to leave Man United immediately.

Ole doesn't need to go to Sir Alex Ferguson's House as he is mostly available at Stadium, so he can learn from him, but I am feeling he is not good learner because he is spending funds and bringing players but completely fail to settle combination which is very important for team and win. He is not good strategist already have some good number of world-class players but unable to handle this all and having very poor results now it's time for bringing some good results but still team is doing very poor against team like Aston Villa and Injury hit Everton.

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Quote from: AndySt on October 13, 2021, 06:41:54 PM

I think that the laws of financial fair play will not allow Newcastle to immediately create a top-level team with a roster consisting exclusively of top players.

True, I don't know how the progress of meeting by all premier English clubs before. Newcastle makes them frustrated, they have a sudden meeting, of course for discussing financial fair play also. I'm afraid of getting hit in the face because we all know, Chelsea and Manchester City, both are owned by billionaires also same as Newcastle did, this is the same as money war.

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Quote from: masulum on October 13, 2021, 01:32:54 PM

Leicester have to work hard against Manchester. They didn't look like last season, there have been a lot of weaknesses in the last few games. The hectic schedule makes Leicester feel like they are experiencing fatigue, thus making players less able to play optimally. Even though leicester are not at their best, I will bet on a draw results, because they will also be more focused on chasing points so they can get back into the top 5 soon. It's a bit difficult, almost all betting platforms predict MU. Because they have Ronaldo, it will probably win easily.

It will be shocking to see Man-united lose that match.All the sites are predicting that they win,but I have not really seen what can make them win Leicester,Even if Leicester is in a poor form,when they meet with big teams they show they are strong enough to challenge them.

Only Ronaldo cannot make Man-u come out winning that match,I know they will be expecting to win,but I don't see that coming.

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Let's wait 1.5 or so seasons more to see what Newcastle will be like. People forget that money can't buy every player in the world, hell PSG has so much money but they are having trouble convincing Mbappe to stay, and they are a great team as well, not like they are building the team from scratch.

Well, money can't buy every player but, money surely helps a lot in football you know. Look at a team like Manchester City, we hardly heard anything if them 4-5 seasons ago but now, its the number one or one of the most fierced team in the EPL and even the UCL. All these they acquired with money, getting the right squad and a good manager too.
Kylan Mbappe wanting to live PSG is because, he has don so much for that club, spent quite a number of years of his career and wants to test new shores admist, being the star man for an elite team and earn the admiration of management and fans alike. That's how I like to think of it but, PSG isn't a bad team too, not at all.

I think that the laws of financial fair play will not allow Newcastle to immediately create a top-level team with a roster consisting exclusively of top players. It is also known that the new management has big questions about the current club infrastructure and the same big plans for its modernization. In any case, this is a process of more than one year and the club will also need to gain the prestige and trust of top players so that they prefer to continue their career in Newcastle, and not in other more famous clubs. By the way, it is the previous successes and the rich club history with a certain unique aura that is the most important reason why Mbappe aspired to Real Madrid.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on October 13, 2021, 03:11:49 PM

Ronaldo should focus and use his best skill in upcoming match. Martial was at his best in the last game scoring 2 goals in the 1st half but Ronaldo did not provide anything from his side. He tried to goal up, but did not work out. Ole should have come up with few best strategy to face Leicester. Hope Man Utd focuses on the matches rather than making money out of selling jerseys.

I do not think any coach tells Ronaldo how to play, I think he just turn up to the occasion whenever he is in the mood. Ole can not manage C Ronaldo too instead Ronaldo will be managing him. He is far above ole's league. When you hear of a player been above the manger, here is a perfect example.

@Vera, you are technically wrong here. No player is above to be managed by a coach. There are basically two types of management; individual and team management.
Individually, Ole may teach Martial how to position in the 18 box in order to get a goal. But, Ole cannot teach that to Ronaldo because he is a king of positioning.
But this does not imply that Ole cannot tell Ronaldo to play from right instead of middle in a particular match. You can see that a player no matter your status must take instructions from the head coach. A player cannot manage a coach. Unless you are being sarcastic.

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