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Man City's performance is indeed not in doubt. but we have to see that in the last two seasons, Man City's strongest competitor was Arsenal. it is not impossible that Arsenal will also be a strong competitor for Man City this season. especially since the points difference is not much.
in the match later Man City will definitely be more favored. but I still hope Arteta will give a surprise in the match later as a form that Arsenal is there for the Premier League trophy.
I'm not sure Arsenal will win, but I'm sure there will be resistance that makes the match interesting. Haaland is too scary for all teams in the Premier League.


Yeah I agree with you, from all sides Manchester City is clearly the favorite especially as they are the home team but as you said surprises can come at any time and Arsenal have the ability to do it. We know Manchester City have the ability to score goals and Arsenal have a good defense, even the best in the Premier League well, we can imagine how this match will be on September 22nd. If we check the betting market at Stake.com it is clear that the odds for Manchester City are better at 1.81 while for Arsenal it is 4.5 and on a draw bet 3.75
I think the probability of a draw is not small at all. This match can end in a draw and the odds are really great. I don't understand why they give these odds. Manchester City is very strong but the opponent is Arsenal and they are also strong. If it were me, I would bet on a draw for this match. They gave good odds.
Well in my own perspective, I don't think I the bookmarkers giving arsenal higher odds against Manchester city should be a surprise, because Manchester city are way more superior to arsenal in my own perspective, besides they are at home, which you rightfully said, so I really don't think arsenal can go toe too toe against Manchester city right now that most of their key players are out injured, so I believe that even though arsenal is a very good team they actually don't have what it takes to beat Manchester city in their own backyard, with the kind of form Manchester city is on right now, so on that note I believe that Manchester city will come out victorious in this upcoming encounter between them.

Lastly, I understand the fact that most of us don't know how the bookmarkers operate, we don't know how they fix the odds of most games, but I think I have a clear picture of how they comes about the odds they mostly give out to most teams, so we shouldn't be that surprise that much why Manchester city odd is way more smaller than arsenal odds,  because right now, arsenal team is not as complete right now as Manchester city team which is quite understandable to me.

Of course, there is also this perspective. Injuries can change the entire balance of the team. Arsenal has too many injuries. If we talk about Manchester City, there have not been many injuries and there is Haaland who has scored nine goals in four matches. When you think about it this way, it is a fact that Manchester City has the advantage on paper. However, the opposing team is Arsenal and their technical director is Arteta. He is a name that knows Pep Guardiola very well. If he makes the right analysis and can stop Haaland, I think Arsenal can leave the field with at least a draw. Apart from that, although Manchester City is the favorite, it is a fact that the match is open to any score.
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Manchester United managed to show a different dimension when facing Barnsley in the Carabao Cup match, they managed to shave their opponents with a big score after improving the quality of their game. This was a huge win in the Ten Hag era, It's been a long time since I saw MU score this many goals in one game.

The results are pretty good for the EFL, but remember Barnsley is an EFL League One team, the third tier of the United Kingdom football league system. Nicknamed "the Colliers". So this does not show how strong Man United is at the moment. They deserved those 7 goals.

I feel sure fans are looking forward to Man United's game like Sir Alex Ferguson. They miss the fast game and the determination of possession so that they become a club that is quite feared when competing.  Currently, Ten Hag has not been able to make Man United return to the Sir Alex Era.
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Man City's performance is indeed not in doubt. but we have to see that in the last two seasons, Man City's strongest competitor was Arsenal. it is not impossible that Arsenal will also be a strong competitor for Man City this season. especially since the points difference is not much.
in the match later Man City will definitely be more favored. but I still hope Arteta will give a surprise in the match later as a form that Arsenal is there for the Premier League trophy.
I'm not sure Arsenal will win, but I'm sure there will be resistance that makes the match interesting. Haaland is too scary for all teams in the Premier League.


Yeah I agree with you, from all sides Manchester City is clearly the favorite especially as they are the home team but as you said surprises can come at any time and Arsenal have the ability to do it. We know Manchester City have the ability to score goals and Arsenal have a good defense, even the best in the Premier League well, we can imagine how this match will be on September 22nd. If we check the betting market at Stake.com it is clear that the odds for Manchester City are better at 1.81 while for Arsenal it is 4.5 and on a draw bet 3.75
I think the probability of a draw is not small at all. This match can end in a draw and the odds are really great. I don't understand why they give these odds. Manchester City is very strong but the opponent is Arsenal and they are also strong. If it were me, I would bet on a draw for this match. They gave good odds.
Well in my own perspective, I don't think I the bookmarkers giving arsenal higher odds against Manchester city should be a surprise, because Manchester city are way more superior to arsenal in my own perspective, besides they are at home, which you rightfully said, so I really don't think arsenal can go toe too toe against Manchester city right now that most of their key players are out injured, so I believe that even though arsenal is a very good team they actually don't have what it takes to beat Manchester city in their own backyard, with the kind of form Manchester city is on right now, so on that note I believe that Manchester city will come out victorious in this upcoming encounter between them.

Lastly, I understand the fact that most of us don't know how the bookmarkers operate, we don't know how they fix the odds of most games, but I think I have a clear picture of how they comes about the odds they mostly give out to most teams, so we shouldn't be that surprise that much why Manchester city odd is way more smaller than arsenal odds,  because right now, arsenal team is not as complete right now as Manchester city team which is quite understandable to me.
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Anyway, good movement and development from Man United today in the EFL Cup. Where they humiliated their opponent Barnsley with a score of 7-0 without reply.
Manchester United managed to show a different dimension when facing Barnsley in the Carabao Cup match, they managed to shave their opponents with a big score after improving the quality of their game. This was a huge win in the Ten Hag era, It's been a long time since I saw MU score this many goals in one game.

And what is interesting is the duet between Garnacho and Rashford, they both became very productive players this time. See this:
The duet of Garnacho and Rashford really made the difference in this game and Antony managed to score his first goal of the season. I hope Ten Hag can maintain his team's best performance in the EPL, a win is very much needed to improve their position in the standings after only being able to get two wins and two losses in their four matches in the EPL.
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Man City's performance is indeed not in doubt. but we have to see that in the last two seasons, Man City's strongest competitor was Arsenal. it is not impossible that Arsenal will also be a strong competitor for Man City this season. especially since the points difference is not much.
in the match later Man City will definitely be more favored. but I still hope Arteta will give a surprise in the match later as a form that Arsenal is there for the Premier League trophy.
I'm not sure Arsenal will win, but I'm sure there will be resistance that makes the match interesting. Haaland is too scary for all teams in the Premier League.


Yeah I agree with you, from all sides Manchester City is clearly the favorite especially as they are the home team but as you said surprises can come at any time and Arsenal have the ability to do it. We know Manchester City have the ability to score goals and Arsenal have a good defense, even the best in the Premier League well, we can imagine how this match will be on September 22nd. If we check the betting market at Stake.com it is clear that the odds for Manchester City are better at 1.81 while for Arsenal it is 4.5 and on a draw bet 3.75
I think the probability of a draw is not small at all. This match can end in a draw and the odds are really great. I don't understand why they give these odds. Manchester City is very strong but the opponent is Arsenal and they are also strong. If it were me, I would bet on a draw for this match. They gave good odds.
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Anyway, good movement and development from Man United today in the EFL Cup. Where they humiliated their opponent Barnsley with a score of 7-0 without reply.

And what is interesting is the duet between Garnacho and Rashford, they both became very productive players this time.


Yep. This was Manchester United's best performance since Erik Ten Hag took charge of United. I enjoy soccer and most importantly, big scores.
We know Barnsley is a weak side, but United need games like this for the players to build their confidence and also give the youngsters some much-needed time. And Casa needed this game as well.
We can see how confident Marcus is since his goal last week.
Let's pray and see how United does against Palace in the next game.
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I didn't expect Arsenal to win this match, they were doubted to be able to play well because they were in an impossible condition due to several players being injured, besides this was an away match for Arsenal.
But in the end Arsenal was able to have good defense and they were able to create 1 goal for the advantage until the match really ended, Tottenham had good game dominance they had more significant possession of the ball than Arsenal but Tottenham were unable to penetrate Arsenal goal guarded by David Raya.

For Newcastle themselves, they did get decent win because Wolves are not strong team, if Newcastle loses then it could be very embarrassing for them, it just that no one knows whether Newcastle will be able to have consistent performance or not in the future.
It's a massive three points for arsenal and I think it was really deserving, though it's actually true, just as you rightfully pointed out that most football fans including me never expected arsenal to win this game because most of their key players are injured, I expected it to end in a draw, since it's a very strong away game, so for arsenal to be able to get the desired three points, I believe that they have the resilient needed as a team to go all the way in their quest to win the English premier league.

Then as for consistency, I wouldn't be that sure but it's still early days, but what I have seen so far in this arsenal team shows that they have all it takes to go all the way till the final day, but with time the picture will be much more clearer.

Then as for the 2- 1 victory of Newcastle united over wolves, it was actually a fascinating encounter between those two teams no doubt, but at the end of the day, it was Newcastle united that won, which is very promising compared to how they started the season last year.
All of these successes and victories are also inseparable from Mikel Arteta performance who was able to perfect the Arsenal squad which was in player crisis, Arteta was able to read Tottenham game and make his players able to balance their strengths and achieve victory.
This is really great, I remember in the previous seasons when Arsenal were able to win matches that were initially doubtful that they could win, but everything was different at the end of the season because during the previous two season Arsenal always made fatal mistakes at the end of the season.
Arsenal have lost the opportunity to win the title twice because of their own mistakes, at the beginning of the 2024/25 season they were able to play well, I curious about how it will continue, whether Arsenal will repeat some of the mistakes in the past or they can learn and really become strong team this season.
I sure there will be big surprise later that we can witness in the Premier League title competition, there are several team that look like they can challenge Manchester City and this is fiercer than last season between Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool.
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Manchester United must still work hard in order to turn into a force that can duel and excel in matches against big teams. Despite the fact they have been in a position to earn victories in games against other small teams, the outcome has not been good enough to build confidence and stand in the leagues. The next matches in September will be very important to determine whether or not they can change their ranking. Some people argue that the current manager has failed to provide positive changes as expected, hence the need to employ a manager capable of bringing profound changes to the team and meet the expectations of the fans.
Whether or not Manchester United have improved their performance can be seen on days when Manchester United do well against their equal or stronger teams. It is easy to win against the team that is at the bottom of the points table but it is definitely difficult for Manchester United to win against the teams that are on the same level. If their plan is to only win against the bottom of the points table then they won't be in a good position in the points table at all. They must win against their equal teams and also play against the bigger teams for at least one point. If Manchester United plan this way and if they are successful then we will assume they have changed their plan and they have improved their performance.
They are trying to set a structure that's as strong as Manchester City's and so far, there's a serious change from the board level to player, they now have extra good hands in different positions infact the introduction of Ugarte has made the midfield more solid, you can see that their new signings have contributed to the goals and assists they've had so far, so what they need is for Erik Ten Hag to implement a working strategy that would enable them play beautiful football like that of Manchester City, such that when they're not leading in a match you'll enjoy watching them play and it's a good strategy that would help them win against their equals. As for inferior teams, I think Manchester United's squad depth is now big enough to feature other players when they play against them, atleast they can now rest their key players and start their younger talents or substitute players sometimes. However a working strategy that would enable them win consistently is very important.
They have bought quality players with significant sums of money but those quality players are not doing much for their club. I think they should have recruited more capable defenders to their club this season. Every season I see a glaring weakness in their defense. This season they made a transfer and there they tried to strengthen their defense but that was not enough to fix their weaknesses. Manchester United need good quality finishers, have good quality strikers but they are not finishing well. As important as finishing is in every match, saving goals for your team is even more important. If Manchester United takes these two aspects seriously and organizes their team according to that plan, they can definitely return to consistent performance.
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This is literally a show of football intimidation and a big disgrace for Barnsley, Lolz.. Because though it looks funny, the way Manchester United just gave Barnsley a whooping 7 goals to Nill, a clear clean sheets, is obvious ever since Liverpool gave them 7 goals to Nill in their previous match played long time ago, they have been planning on who to revenge such number of goals to, of which it seems Barnsley happens to have been the lucky victim to have been publicly disgrace in such manner yesterday. However, big kodus to Rashford, Garnacho, Eriksen and Anthony for making Manchester United proud in yesterday's game against Barnsley.
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Congratulations to Manchester United because maybe this match is Manchester United's day which has won with a very satisfying score and I think the fans are happy with the results of their match which has been able to beat Barnsley. In addition, I appreciate this because it is one of the good achievements that they have done with their hard work. With their quite interesting front line players, because they played quite well and scored goals each.
Manchester United should not relax with this victory because they still have a long journey that they have to go through, besides I think they don't look ready to face other strong Premier League teams. They still have to work hard to improve their performance and ranking, because the victory they have achieved is not the end of their journey.

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Manchester United's victory over Barnsley deserves our appreciation, because being able to win with a score of 7-0 is quite a good achievement. So hopefully Manchester United can play well like this when facing teams in the English league. Because in essence it could be said that it is quite natural that Manchester United could win a landslide victory over Barnsley, because the levels of Manchester United and Barnsley are clearly very far apart. So basically it can be said that it is natural that Manchester United can win by a landslide in this match against Barnsley. Because the league castes played by Manchester United and Barnsley are clearly different.

But even so, hopefully Manchester United can play compactly like this when competing in the English league. Because so far I also see that Manchester United's competitiveness in the English league is still quite bad. Especially when you meet big teams like Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City, you can be sure that Manchester will most likely always lose. So in essence, Manchester United may be satisfied with the results of this victory. But they shouldn't forget that in the English league they are having difficulties. Because the proof is that Manchester United is currently in 10th position in the English league.
And in the coming week Manchester United will face Crystal Palace. I was a little hesitant to bet on this match, but it looks like doing BTTS in this match would be very appropriate. because I'm sure these two teams will both score goals.
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I'm looking forward to this match, because I think this match is quite tough where Manchester City will face two strong teams besides that I still think they can win but maybe there will be difficulties that will occur. The pressure that they will definitely give to their opponents will also occur and I don't doubt they can win.

Arsenal who have a good defense will certainly make it difficult for Manchester City to score goals, but anyway I think they can find a gap to score goals against Arsenal. In addition, Arsenal can also be said to be a team that has strong performance so they are one of the teams that will block Manchester City's development. We'll just have to see how the match goes to see who will win this match.

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Congratulations to Manchester United because maybe this match is Manchester United's day which has won with a very satisfying score and I think the fans are happy with the results of their match which has been able to beat Barnsley. In addition, I appreciate this because it is one of the good achievements that they have done with their hard work. With their quite interesting front line players, because they played quite well and scored goals each.
Manchester United should not relax with this victory because they still have a long journey that they have to go through, besides I think they don't look ready to face other strong Premier League teams. They still have to work hard to improve their performance and ranking, because the victory they have achieved is not the end of their journey.

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Tottenham football team did not play bad but they could not win this match due to lack of defense system. They should defend any ball that is coming towards goal, Gabriel got a chance to do goal and he got benefit and he did important goal for his team. Arsenal team is best team in this tournament but in this match ,they could not perform well but they won this match luckily.  Arsenal players shots were only 7 in the comparison of 15 shots of Tottenham team . The possession percentage of Tottenham team was good and that was 66 percent and their passes were also more in number  and that was 494 but result was not in the favour of them .
Tottenham played well but their defense made costly mistake. Arsenal Gabriel scored  winning goal because of this error. Arsenal is usually the better team but they did not play their best. They were lucky to win. Here I will say Tottenham defense needs work. And Arsenal won because they used their chances well not because they dominated. And Tottenham controlled the game 66% possession 494 passes but couldn't score. So they need more practice.
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I don't think the win was entirely down to luck. Even though Arsenal faced considerable pressure from Tottenham but they indeed have a solid defense. Arteta knows they cannot afford to play an open and offensive game because, without Odegaard and Declan Rice, their rhythm would not have developed optimally. Therefore, they tend to play defensive football and wait for a good opportunity to counter-attack. That patience paid off, when Tottenham was so frustrated in chasing goals, it was Arsenal who broke the deadlock.

Arsenal was lucky because it was struggle down to when they were able to score only one goal Tottenham can be a tough club and that is why people are thinking even with the absence of Odegaard should affect them but they still managed to win and the pattern of football that arsenal wants to play now won't favour them because they always go for defense, and arsenal does not even have attackers now so this is going to be less issue, and since we are going to. we are meeting with arsenal next and I love the fact that we are going to be using arsenal advantage because we are going to open them up from their defensive game they playing. The game between us will give a lot meaning and they will know their place because arsenal are already feeling as if they have a chance against but when we we meet we going to know, the last man standing, despite the fact that arsenal have been unable to win they should stay low.
Tottenham football team did not play bad but they could not win this match due to lack of defense system. They should defend any ball that is coming towards goal, Gabriel got a chance to do goal and he got benefit and he did important goal for his team. Arsenal team is best team in this tournament but in this match ,they could not perform well but they won this match luckily.  Arsenal players shots were only 7 in the comparison of 15 shots of Tottenham team . The possession percentage of Tottenham team was good and that was 66 percent and their passes were also more in number  and that was 494 but result was not in the favour of them .
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Great players seemed unable to show their maximum performance when they were at Manchester United. But as soon as they went to another club and played for another club, we immediately saw that the Man United players were able to display their maximum performance. And actually it's not just Sancho but that also happens to several other players.
It is undeniable that most of the players from Man United are able to show their best performance when they have left the club. And most of them can really fit in and be optimal with their new club.

Anyway, good movement and development from Man United today in the EFL Cup. Where they humiliated their opponent Barnsley with a score of 7-0 without reply.

And what is interesting is the duet between Garnacho and Rashford, they both became very productive players this time. See this:


Source: Man United duo on fire tonight vs Barnsley in League Cup
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Both the fans of Everton and Nottingham Forest must be having mixed reactions about their teams this season. Nottingham Forest barely made it to secure survival in the English Premier League last season but they have not lost a single game after 4 matches played and they even managed to beat Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield. On the other hand, Everton secured survival from relegation comfortably last season but they had already lost 4 games played this season and I think Everton are in deep trouble if the manager are still unable to fix their poor defense with a good solution.
In the end the situation remains the same where although they can always surprise and even win with the big clubs but in the end consistency for small clubs is always a difficult problem to solve.

We know that in the end financial capabilities and resources ultimately affect performance so for some clubs like Nottingham Forrest even though on several occasions they can always surprise by winning or holding a draw with a bigger club, their condition will never change.
They will still be very troubled to try to stay in the main league competition because after all it will be very difficult so they must continue to feel grateful even though they are at the bottom of the table because in the end not to be relegated even for a club that is actually still very short in terms of player material and finance it is a very good thing for them.

However, it has been seen that when Nottingham Forest or many other clubs play against small clubs then they face a big problem in the way of maintaining form. Indeed, they can occasionally produce the upset against the major teams, but the major issue is how they can overcome teams they are supposed to be capable of beating. Continuity is probably the biggest issue that can’t be easily addressed, and it typically has links to inadequate monetary support and the talent pool in a team. On the other end of the scale, merely having the ability to remain in the top flight is a major accomplishment for them. Not getting relegated is a victory in itself for a team that has no fortunes to invest in their team. Even where they always push for better score, staying within the elite competition is something to be thankful for. It demonstrates that clubs such as Nottingham Forest are still trying as much as they can despite all the constraints.
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Man City's performance is indeed not in doubt. but we have to see that in the last two seasons, Man City's strongest competitor was Arsenal. it is not impossible that Arsenal will also be a strong competitor for Man City this season. especially since the points difference is not much.
in the match later Man City will definitely be more favored. but I still hope Arteta will give a surprise in the match later as a form that Arsenal is there for the Premier League trophy.
I'm not sure Arsenal will win, but I'm sure there will be resistance that makes the match interesting. Haaland is too scary for all teams in the Premier League.


Yeah I agree with you, from all sides Manchester City is clearly the favorite especially as they are the home team but as you said surprises can come at any time and Arsenal have the ability to do it. We know Manchester City have the ability to score goals and Arsenal have a good defense, even the best in the Premier League well, we can imagine how this match will be on September 22nd. If we check the betting market at Stake.com it is clear that the odds for Manchester City are better at 1.81 while for Arsenal it is 4.5 and on a draw bet 3.75
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Both the fans of Everton and Nottingham Forest must be having mixed reactions about their teams this season. Nottingham Forest barely made it to secure survival in the English Premier League last season but they have not lost a single game after 4 matches played and they even managed to beat Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield. On the other hand, Everton secured survival from relegation comfortably last season but they had already lost 4 games played this season and I think Everton are in deep trouble if the manager are still unable to fix their poor defense with a good solution.
In the end the situation remains the same where although they can always surprise and even win with the big clubs but in the end consistency for small clubs is always a difficult problem to solve.

We know that in the end financial capabilities and resources ultimately affect performance so for some clubs like Nottingham Forrest even though on several occasions they can always surprise by winning or holding a draw with a bigger club, their condition will never change.
They will still be very troubled to try to stay in the main league competition because after all it will be very difficult so they must continue to feel grateful even though they are at the bottom of the table because in the end not to be relegated even for a club that is actually still very short in terms of player material and finance it is a very good thing for them.
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Chelsea has still not improved in anywhere and not only the defence too. Teams get pass Chelsea defense without encountering any obstacles and Chelsea can not score goals too as they use to do in previous seasons.
I will say that’s just the two main problems Chelsea are having, their defense is just so weak, and they are supposed to work on the position because their opponents are always finding it very easy to penetrate them, and they also lack striker. Jackson which  they have is not consistent, he do perform well in some matches, but in most matches his performance is always poor, and if Chelsea wants to continue with Jackson, then they won’t be able to perform well this season because most of the chances that they will be having, Jackson will be missing them. So Enzo should look for a way to tighten their defense.

How many goals did Chelsea concede in their last match? The answer is 0, they didn't concede any goal, what then are you guys talking about? The season is pretty still early and every club including Chelsea is striving to hold their ground and soldier on. So, we should stop the extreme criticism on Chelsea and allow the coach do his job. We shouldn't forget that the coach is new and still have things to fix in the club. It is very rare to see any coach achieve something great in their first season. Besides, Chelsea was not handed over to him in a good form. He obviously needs time to adapt the players and himself and deliver to the management.
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Chelsea has still not improved in anywhere and not only the defence too. Teams get pass Chelsea defense without encountering any obstacles and Chelsea can not score goals too as they use to do in previous seasons.
I will say that’s just the two main problems Chelsea are having, their defense is just so weak, and they are supposed to work on the position because their opponents are always finding it very easy to penetrate them, and they also lack striker. Jackson which  they have is not consistent, he do perform well in some matches, but in most matches his performance is always poor, and if Chelsea wants to continue with Jackson, then they won’t be able to perform well this season because most of the chances that they will be having, Jackson will be missing them. So Enzo should look for a way to tighten their defense.
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