Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 859.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 15, 2024, 12:55:39 PM

In fact, Arsenal is already good in terms of squad depth. They have good defenders, good goalkeepers, midfielders and also good attackers. It's just that Arsenal are still not good from a mental perspective, which means that is one of their weaknesses compared to other favorite teams like Manchester City. Arsenal made many mistakes towards the end of the season, which allowed Manchester City to overtake them and maintain their consistency as defending champions.

Arsenal must learn how to handle pressure while they are leading the standings. They failed to maintain that in two consecutive seasons, even though many people had hoped that Arsenal could cut through Manchester City's title dominance. Arsenal must learn from the mistakes of the last two seasons, they must improve next season.

Arsenal currently have good enough squad last season but lack mentality winning against top teams such as Manchester City actually when the away match against Citizen just getting draw result. In goal keeper, Arsenal has two top goals keeper with the same level performance and I think weakness side of Arsenal is central forward. Gabriel Jesus under perform in this season because he most getting injury and Arteta need finding the real fighter of central forward for next season and make Arsenal not the only competitor teams for Manchester City bust must be the winner or Premier League.

Next season, Arsenal must learn more from their mistake in last two season get inconsistency performance actually facing many crucial important matches, loss many points from mediocre team and bad result against top teams made Arsenal has loss opportunities last two season in a row for winning their premier league tittle have waiting for almost twenty years ago.

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Quote from: wmaurik on June 15, 2024, 12:23:34 PM

As long as Arsenal have enough money to target some players who have good game play, it is clear that their plan will be quite smooth. Because when it comes to recruiting players, they are usually always hampered by the price and the amount of money that has to be spent by the team that wants to buy them. Next season Arsenal must be better than the previous season because last season Arsenal struggled as a champion candidate even though in the end they also failed to become champions in the Premier League.

That's one of the thing they normally do in terms of getting new players the amount is always a problem for them if not by now Arsenal would have gotten so much good players that other clubs would have been so afraid of them, though one thing I noticed about Arsenal is that they always prefer using there available money they have to buy some academy players than spending all there money on a single player, though sometimes is actually commendable because those little players will grow to become a better players for the club and will also have a higher value to the club, though for now even if they are not able to get more players there performance is still very much okay.

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Quote from: snipie on June 15, 2024, 01:08:26 PM

Arsenal are always close to trophies and fail at the last rounds due to Manchester City being so powerful these years. Spending money moderately comparing to other clubs while keeping top places and UEFA Champions League spot is something that worth to keep the coach and try again next season.
We will see if there will be much changes in the transfer window in English Premier League teams to expect how the next season will look like.

They have done well in the past two seasons. The first of them was due to lack of depth and Injuries, the later I would say was due to the decisions of Mikel Arteta because why rotate your winning squad you have been using and always stucked with since the second half of the Premier League Competition kicked off? Why?

Having no Thomas Partey in that game was crazyy. Zinchenko shouldn't have been used as he caused too many errors and same goes with Gabriel Jesus.
Mikel Arteta should have had the upper hand against Manchester City if he had won that game against Aston Villa truthfully.

Losing the recent Premier League to Manchester City has got nothing to do with being powerful. Why do you see it that way? Tell me!
Also, they focused on beating Bayern Munich, a game they knew they wouldn't have won at Allianz Arena, Mikel Arteta fucked around and found out the right way.

Arsenal has seen improvement in the past three seasons compared to the previous managers.

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Quote from: red4slash on June 15, 2024, 12:57:54 PM

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Arsenal is also looking for a couple of players and potential players who hold the Arsenal game plan like the previous season they did. The potential name they are looking for good selling players which are currently in a summer window.

As long as Arsenal have enough money to target some players who have good game play, it is clear that their plan will be quite smooth. Because when it comes to recruiting players, they are usually always hampered by the price and the amount of money that has to be spent by the team that wants to buy them. Next season Arsenal must be better than the previous season because last season Arsenal struggled as a champion candidate even though in the end they also failed to become champions in the Premier League.

Arsenal in recent seasons have always been a loyal club even they always occupy the top 5 for clubs with the most spending in transfers in the last few seasons which makes it seem like money is not a problem for them even though they are not as rich as Manchester City or Newcastle but club owners understand enough that they do not have to be stingy to spend money as long as the results are comparable. Unlike the 2 rival red clubs where it looks like for Liverpool and Manchester United it looks like the club owners have to think several times if they want to spend money lol.

This is one of Arteta's advantages because he can do whatever he wants and the results are still quite good even though until now the trophy still cannot be presented to the Arsenal public but in terms of performance each season Arsenal are quite stable and indeed it is a very good thing for them.

Many people do not know the reasons why Arsenal FC were not spending before in transfer windows,and always sell their best players to be able to get finance to sign new players.It was because Arsenal were building their stadium,and they needed to pay some debts,that was Why Arsene Wenger found it so difficult to make transfers happen,but now the debt has been cleared,and Arteta is always given the money he needs to sign who can help the team compete for the tittles.
They are getting stronger each season and maybe might lift the premier league trophy next season,who knows.

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Quote from: red4slash on June 15, 2024, 12:57:54 PM

This is one of Arteta's advantages because he can do whatever he wants and the results are still quite good even though until now the trophy still cannot be presented to the Arsenal public but in terms of performance each season Arsenal are quite stable and indeed it is a very good thing for them.

Arsenal are always close to trophies and fail at the last rounds due to Manchester City being so powerful these years. Spending money moderately comparing to other clubs while keeping top places and UEFA Champions League spot is something that worth to keep the coach and try again next season.
We will see if there will be much changes in the transfer window in English Premier League teams to expect how the next season will look like.

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Arsenal is also looking for a couple of players and potential players who hold the Arsenal game plan like the previous season they did. The potential name they are looking for good selling players which are currently in a summer window.

As long as Arsenal have enough money to target some players who have good game play, it is clear that their plan will be quite smooth. Because when it comes to recruiting players, they are usually always hampered by the price and the amount of money that has to be spent by the team that wants to buy them. Next season Arsenal must be better than the previous season because last season Arsenal struggled as a champion candidate even though in the end they also failed to become champions in the Premier League.

Arsenal in recent seasons have always been a loyal club even they always occupy the top 5 for clubs with the most spending in transfers in the last few seasons which makes it seem like money is not a problem for them even though they are not as rich as Manchester City or Newcastle but club owners understand enough that they do not have to be stingy to spend money as long as the results are comparable. Unlike the 2 rival red clubs where it looks like for Liverpool and Manchester United it looks like the club owners have to think several times if they want to spend money lol.

This is one of Arteta's advantages because he can do whatever he wants and the results are still quite good even though until now the trophy still cannot be presented to the Arsenal public but in terms of performance each season Arsenal are quite stable and indeed it is a very good thing for them.

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Arsenal is also looking for a couple of players and potential players who hold the Arsenal game plan like the previous season they did. The potential name they are looking for good selling players which are currently in a summer window.

As long as Arsenal have enough money to target some players who have good game play, it is clear that their plan will be quite smooth. Because when it comes to recruiting players, they are usually always hampered by the price and the amount of money that has to be spent by the team that wants to buy them. Next season Arsenal must be better than the previous season because last season Arsenal struggled as a champion candidate even though in the end they also failed to become champions in the Premier League.

Arsenal need not target midfielders or defenders there interest should be focused on getting a finisher that is what they need to win the EPL. And is also something that Manchester City has which they do not have. Manchester City have Haaland and he is a good finisher, he also keeps scoring the highest goal in the EPL for two seasons now. If Arsenal has such a player they already have the right midfielders and defenders as well as good wingers to deliver. They will be more dangerous to play against.

What is keeping Haaland as the top goal scorer in the league is not because he is exactly the best finisher for Manchester City but because of his teammates who are perfect in supplying him accurate assists, if not for them Haaland won't be competing for the top scorers. Saka and Gabriel's are a better tactical finisher than Haaland. Arsenal should mainly work on the potential of their midfielders and a little more on defense. Arsenal are again going to compete for the title, working on their midfielders will give them enough guarantee of winning the title.

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Quote from: wmaurik on June 15, 2024, 12:23:34 PM

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As long as Arsenal have enough money to target some players who have good game play, it is clear that their plan will be quite smooth. Because when it comes to recruiting players, they are usually always hampered by the price and the amount of money that has to be spent by the team that wants to buy them. Next season Arsenal must be better than the previous season because last season Arsenal struggled as a champion candidate even though in the end they also failed to become champions in the Premier League.

In fact, Arsenal is already good in terms of squad depth. They have good defenders, good goalkeepers, midfielders and also good attackers. It's just that Arsenal are still not good from a mental perspective, which means that is one of their weaknesses compared to other favorite teams like Manchester City. Arsenal made many mistakes towards the end of the season, which allowed Manchester City to overtake them and maintain their consistency as defending champions.

Arsenal must learn how to handle pressure while they are leading the standings. They failed to maintain that in two consecutive seasons, even though many people had hoped that Arsenal could cut through Manchester City's title dominance. Arsenal must learn from the mistakes of the last two seasons, they must improve next season.

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Quote from: wmaurik on June 15, 2024, 12:23:34 PM

Quote from: marii awan on June 15, 2024, 11:35:16 AM

Arsenal is also looking for a couple of players and potential players who hold the Arsenal game plan like the previous season they did. The potential name they are looking for good selling players which are currently in a summer window.

As long as Arsenal have enough money to target some players who have good game play, it is clear that their plan will be quite smooth. Because when it comes to recruiting players, they are usually always hampered by the price and the amount of money that has to be spent by the team that wants to buy them. Next season Arsenal must be better than the previous season because last season Arsenal struggled as a champion candidate even though in the end they also failed to become champions in the Premier League.

Arsenal need not target midfielders or defenders there interest should be focused on getting a finisher that is what they need to win the EPL. And is also something that Manchester City has which they do not have. Manchester City have Haaland and he is a good finisher, he also keeps scoring the highest goal in the EPL for two seasons now. If Arsenal has such a player they already have the right midfielders and defenders as well as good wingers to deliver. They will be more dangerous to play against.

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Even though you say that, there is still no guarantee that Arsenal can win the English league title. Everything is possible in football, but if you hope to win it is not easy to do, the Premier League has many great teams competing so that your opponent will be facing Arsenal will certainly not be easy to beat. Arsenal have a chance to become champions in several matches but the luck factor is still not on Arsenal's side. The Arsenal coach must remain consistent and always look for small gaps to try to provide direction to score goals so that without us realizing it, Arsenal already has many winning points.

When it comes to the Premier League, of course no team can guarantee that it will win the title because basically their strength is almost the same, like Manchester City, which has always competed with Arsenal in the last 2 seasons with a close point difference. If some people say Arsenal is closer to the title this season that's normal, because I also see that Arsenal seems more serious in hunting for players meaning they don't want to lose for the 3rd time in the competition. We are still monitoring what Arsenal will do in this transfer window what is clear from several sources is that Arsenal is most actively looking for new players for the attack line.

Its a difficult league, the Premier League. Arsenal and Man City have been the big guys,, but Arsenal hasnt been able to close the deal. Although they have come very near, as they say, "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades." There is a fire under Arsenal because of those near misses. They're bringing in elite players and making big transfers to assemble a squad that can compete with anybody. They're not messing around this time.

They can take a page out of history and seize the moment now. They must take advantage of any opening and mistake made by City. This season, its all about translating those "almosts" into wins. Can they do it? Only time will tell. They're hungry, they're determined, and they're coming for that trophy.

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I believe if someone like Mikel Arteta were to be the manager of Arsenal for the past 5 or 6 seasons,He should have taken Arsenal to their first premier league tittle by now.With the way he showed strong rivalry to Manchester City last season,it is very obvious that he has that squad that can compete with City now.He brought Declan Rice who was the rock solid to Arsenal's midfield last season,and made them stand firm when the squad seemed weak.I believe since the gunners failed last season ,they will recruit more players in this summer transfer window,and get their first Premier league tittle next season.

What are you saying? How many seasons has he been manager for Arsenal now? Isn't this his fifth season with them already? Lol. He should be thankful he has a management that knows what it mean's to be patience with the process because he has come so close to winning the Premier League Competition and yet, couldn't set his hands on it.

I believe the reason why the management of Arsenal are still patience with mikel Arteta for not able to win the title all this season is because they understand Arteta is a young coach coming up, that will do well and if you notice in every season their is a transformation in the performance of Arsenal. For arsenal not to sack arsenal at this while for failing to win the title is a good decision.

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Mikel Arteta is a good coach I must say, I also love the signatures he has done for the club so far and they will all grow together. They should step up them chase for a central forward who can give them 20 Premier League Competition goals in a season.
Not just Declan Rice, Trossad from Brighton and most importantly, the introduction of David Raya from Brentford, who was super helpful as he played a key role in them chase to the top.

He's hardwork paid off as he was able to win the golden glove in his very first season. They'll do better next season, they should finally sign Victor Oshime since Chelsea has no such plans.

Arteta is a good coach not doubt about it and I believe in next season their will be a difference and it is possible for arsenal to win the league next season because Arteta keeps improving. Arsenal nearly won the title this season if not a mistake of not winning a match. Arsenal was very tough with Manchester City, and next season it is still possible challenge Manchester City.

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Quote from: marii awan on June 15, 2024, 11:35:16 AM

Arsenal is also looking for a couple of players and potential players who hold the Arsenal game plan like the previous season they did. The potential name they are looking for good selling players which are currently in a summer window.

As long as Arsenal have enough money to target some players who have good game play, it is clear that their plan will be quite smooth. Because when it comes to recruiting players, they are usually always hampered by the price and the amount of money that has to be spent by the team that wants to buy them. Next season Arsenal must be better than the previous season because last season Arsenal struggled as a champion candidate even though in the end they also failed to become champions in the Premier League.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on June 15, 2024, 12:10:13 PM

I agree with you. The Premier League is truly unpredictable. I think the Premier League is absolutely the most competitive league in the world. Anything can happen in the Premier League and Arsenal are really unlucky to be runners up twice in a row. Arsenal are playing very well and they are one of the favorites to win. But I think they were inconsistent in their game so they failed to win the championship at the end of this season. I think the result against Aston Villa really had an impact on them. They lost to Aston Villa and dropped 3 points and to be honest it was a defeat I didn't predict.

Defeat and winning is recorded by one club, and as we all can have it, the best team will always come out with essential three points. The English Premier League is one of the elite tournaments we watched out for because it's sparks our interest and will always look up to the club. Next season will be tough, I would stick to the main odds which is very concerning with the club.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on June 14, 2024, 06:35:37 PM

Even though you say that, there is still no guarantee that Arsenal can win the English league title. Everything is possible in football, but if you hope to win it is not easy to do, the Premier League has many great teams competing so that your opponent will be facing Arsenal will certainly not be easy to beat. Arsenal have a chance to become champions in several matches but the luck factor is still not on Arsenal's side. The Arsenal coach must remain consistent and always look for small gaps to try to provide direction to score goals so that without us realizing it, Arsenal already has many winning points.

I agree with you. The Premier League is truly unpredictable. I think the Premier League is absolutely the most competitive league in the world. Anything can happen in the Premier League and Arsenal are really unlucky to be runners up twice in a row. Arsenal are playing very well and they are one of the favorites to win. But I think they were inconsistent in their game so they failed to win the championship at the end of this season. I think the result against Aston Villa really had an impact on them. They lost to Aston Villa and dropped 3 points and to be honest it was a defeat I didn't predict.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 15, 2024, 11:13:21 AM

I honestly can't understand what's in the heads of Chelsea's directors, in the past they made senseless signings, they paid very high prices for players who, in my opinion, didn't have what Chelsea needed, then they managed to sign Mauricio Pochettino and he made the team was recovering, if they gave it a few more years, Mauricio Pochettino could turn Chelsea into a very strong team, but Chelsea's management fired Mauricio Pochettino, I was even shocked by this dismissal, but then I thought: "maybe Chelsea's management Chelsea found a much better coach than Mauricio Pochettino " but I was shocked again to learn that Chelsea's management went to hire Enzo Maresca, I have nothing against Enzo Maresca

but looking at Enzo Maresca's performance:

Ascoli (technical assistant)
Sevilla (technical assistant)
West Ham (assistant coach)
Manchester City (assistant coach)
Leicester (head coach)

Even though he got Leicester promoted to the Premier League, I still don't see him being better than Mauricio Pochettino. but now chelsea made another mistake:

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Deal already agreed weeks ago for €40m fixed fee and €25m add-ons for €65m total package for Palmeiras.

Estevão will sign a contract until June 2032 at Chelsea, to be only valid from July 2025 as he will join when 18.

Chelsea plan to sign all documents this weekend after medical tests completed in Brazil, @ge.globo confirm.

2007 born talented winger will be part of Chelsea 1st squad in 2025, no plans for loan or start in Academy.

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I see great potentials in this new Chelsea coach,and despite knowing that Chelsea boards dont normally give their coaches time to build their team,I think they might give this new coach time to build the squad,but I think the building will stand on what Pochetino have built already.The coach I think would have done much better is Pochetino,if they had given him more time to execute his plans,they didn't even allow him finish his project when they sacked him.It was really bad.
Now there is Enzo Maresca who seem to have potentials of turning players into world class stars,with the signing of a defender already and this player,let's see if he will be able to turn things around at Chelsea.

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Quote from: hahay on June 14, 2024, 11:39:53 AM

I am sure, Liverpool are not the same as Chelsea who always sack coaches every season, because Liverpool are a team that can go through a process to achieve a great achievement. Because anyway, as far as I remember and if I'm not mistaken also that Klopp did not succeed in his first season and it seems in the second season too. Also, about Pep when in his first season at Manchester City also the fact that they could not win the trophy but just look at the results so far, because they continue to improve from season to season. Therefore, basically if the team can appreciate a process, then at least there will always be a chance for them to get success. Therefore, I personally believe that Arne Slot seems to be able to provide the best results even though it requires a process to achieve the highest achievements.

If that is done again, the new coach can build a stronger squad like Jurgen Klopp did when he first became Liverpool coach. When the coach is not given more time, it will be much more difficult to find the right coach like what happened at Chelsea. Liverpool has a different vision and they gave full trust to Jurgen Klopp before so that he could slowly build a more solid squad. There is no instant coach in the Premier League and we rarely find a coach who is successful there in a short time.

If management gives Arne Slot maximum time then he will most likely achieve success at Liverpool but if next season he is unable to handle Liverpool well then when management decides to fire him it will be difficult to find the same coach as Jurgen Klopp for the coming season because it is impossible for a coach to provide quick success in the Premier League.

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Arsenal are still in the lookout for a striker,a midfielder,a winger and a defender to booster their squad ahead of the 2024/2025 campaign.The gunners were on the verge of finalising a deal for Rb Liepzig's striker, Benjamin Sesko,but the attacker later made a U-turn and signed for his club to continue playing and getting more game times there,and believe the reason he chose to stay is because he knows that he won't be the first choice if he gets to Arsenal because the Likes of Jesus,Karl Hervetz and Trosard are there for the manager to start.But if he had believed himself to be a better striker,he would have still considered them.

But there are also rumors circulating that Jesus will also leave in the next transfer window and as such, I think there is still a place for him to be the main choice in Arsenal's squad next season. But at least there is still plenty of time for them to transfer players because next season league is still a long way from starting. Therefore, moving to get better players slowly is also not a problem but indeed, carrying out a search from now on will certainly be a quick step for Arsenal to get the players they are targeting.

I do not think that Arsenal needs a whole new 11 to be able to win the league or win trophies in the coming season. What they need is just a little reinforcement to keep the team going. Season before last they lacked squad depth that made them lose the EPL title to Manchester city, but this year, their problem is no longer squad depth.

I haven't heard the news of Jesus leaving the club, but if it is true, it therefore means that Arsenal will need a new natural number 9 to replace him.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on June 15, 2024, 09:34:12 AM

Arsenal are still in the lookout for a striker,a midfielder,a winger and a defender to booster their squad ahead of the 2024/2025 campaign.The gunners were on the verge of finalising a deal for Rb Liepzig's striker, Benjamin Sesko,but the attacker later made a U-turn and signed for his club to continue playing and getting more game times there,and believe the reason he chose to stay is because he knows that he won't be the first choice if he gets to Arsenal because the Likes of Jesus,Karl Hervetz and Trosard are there for the manager to start.But if he had believed himself to be a better striker,he would have still considered them.

They should step up with them chase for Victor Oshime, if they can do that, he will definitely have to be a super great combination with Kai Havertz. I wonder why nobody is praising Kai Havertz! After so much criticisms from Chelsea, I think Arsenal improved him better or should I say Mikel Arteta and the rest of his mates helped him improve better. I saw him buzzing last night for German National Team as he was able to slot a goal in.

I said it earlier, they should make moves to sign up Victor Oshime from Napoli.

I would agree in the case of a midfielder besides, Thomas Partey would ne moving to Saudi Arabia soon. They need that back up to merge with Declan Rice.

A right winger to compete with Saka because, I see he is so comfortable allow the ball gets Into his head, they need depth at most when he is Injured or for resting. Same way they have with Trosadd and Gabriel Martinelli on the left wing.

They don't need a defender. They already have Jurim Timber who missed all of last season due to Injury. He should be ready before August to fight for his place. Arsenal anyways had the best defense last season. So I don't think they need that.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on June 15, 2024, 09:34:12 AM

Arsenal are still in the lookout for a striker,a midfielder,a winger and a defender to booster their squad ahead of the 2024/2025 campaign.The gunners were on the verge of finalising a deal for Rb Liepzig's striker, Benjamin Sesko,but the attacker later made a U-turn and signed for his club to continue playing and getting more game times there,and believe the reason he chose to stay is because he knows that he won't be the first choice if he gets to Arsenal because the Likes of Jesus,Karl Hervetz and Trosard are there for the manager to start.But if he had believed himself to be a better striker,he would have still considered them.

Arsenal is also looking for a couple of players and potential players who hold the Arsenal game plan like the previous season they did. The potential name they are looking for good selling players which are currently in a summer window.

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Quote from: hahay on June 15, 2024, 10:49:50 AM

Quote from: Sakanwa on June 15, 2024, 09:34:12 AM

Arsenal are still in the lookout for a striker,a midfielder,a winger and a defender to booster their squad ahead of the 2024/2025 campaign.The gunners were on the verge of finalising a deal for Rb Liepzig's striker, Benjamin Sesko,but the attacker later made a U-turn and signed for his club to continue playing and getting more game times there,and believe the reason he chose to stay is because he knows that he won't be the first choice if he gets to Arsenal because the Likes of Jesus,Karl Hervetz and Trosard are there for the manager to start.But if he had believed himself to be a better striker,he would have still considered them.

But there are also rumors circulating that Jesus will also leave in the next transfer window and as such, I think there is still a place for him to be the main choice in Arsenal's squad next season. But at least there is still plenty of time for them to transfer players because next season league is still a long way from starting. Therefore, moving to get better players slowly is also not a problem but indeed, carrying out a search from now on will certainly be a quick step for Arsenal to get the players they are targeting.

Regardless of whether Jesus will stay or go at Arsenal, they still really need a new striker because as seen last season, Arsenal's problem is that their front line is not strong, so Arteta should be able to recruit a striker who has good ability to score goals. , it will be quite helpful in developing team performance.
Regarding the rumors with Benjamin Sesko, I think it would be the right choice, Benjamin Sesko is still 21 years old and he has quite capable individual abilities so it is possible that he can develop further with Arsenal.

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