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Quote from: cryptofrka on July 24, 2020, 03:20:03 AM

It will be a really exciting closing weekend. I hope to find a multistream somewhere because there are several games I'm interested in.
I will put Liverpool on one screen and then switch between Leicester-United, Arsenal-Watford and Palace-Tottenham on the other. All highly important games.

Betting-wise, I will go for a Tottenham win and United not losing.

Perhaps there will be a game on amazon prime, so then we can watch the tv and a second game on a tablet or laptop.

I suppose it would be useful if someone gathered the information on which game is on which channel.

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No amazon prime game according to that, but there is a game on Pick, I have a feed for that somewhere.

Ill be interested what parlays people are doing? Probably get some bets on tomorrow.

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Quote from: Raflesia on July 23, 2020, 09:01:23 PM

~ I am sure Chelsea and Manchester United will try their best to win at the end of this league game, CL is very important for them ~

Definitely. It is a decisive match to qualify on CL in the next season. Both teams surely will force their selves to win the last matches. CL isn't only a chance to improve the club's revenue, but also increasing the reputation and popularity of clubs. That's why all football clubs around the world dream to qualify on CL. Yep, we all know that CL is the highest level of football club competition. So, in this matter, both Chelsea and Manchester United will struggle all out to secure the last 3 points.

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Quote from: masulum on July 24, 2020, 04:01:51 AM

if Watford Draw and Villa lose 2 - 0 or more in the next match, then Watford will take over the position of Aston Villa. CMIIW

Watford and Villa are both on 34 points, so if Watford draw and Villa lose, the goal difference doesn't matter as Watford will be 35 pts and Villa 34 pts.
Basically Watford need to get more points than Villa, or if they get the same points then Watford have to improve their goal difference relative to Villa by +2 (so if Villa draw, Watford need a win as a Watford draw would leave goal difference unchanged for both teams).
Ignoring Bournemouth again

It's quite heavy Watford will face Arsenal while it's Villa vs Westham, so I think it's hard in this match that Watford must try to get points or at least draw if Villa loses.
But yesterday Westham was able to hold a draw at manchester whether this time beating the villa?

I hope this will be a dramatic victory for Watford.

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Quote from: masulum on July 24, 2020, 04:01:51 AM

if Watford Draw and Villa lose 2 - 0 or more in the next match, then Watford will take over the position of Aston Villa. CMIIW

Watford and Villa are both on 34 points, so if Watford draw and Villa lose, the goal difference doesn't matter as Watford will be 35 pts and Villa 34 pts.
Basically Watford need to get more points than Villa, or if they get the same points then Watford have to improve their goal difference relative to Villa by +2 (so if Villa draw, Watford need a win as a Watford draw would leave goal difference unchanged for both teams).
Ignoring Bournemouth again

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Quote from: Cnut237 on July 24, 2020, 02:12:17 AM

Ignoring Bournemouth for a moment... in the final games, Watford need to either get more points than Villa, or else get the same result but improve their goal difference by +2 (so if Villa win by 1 goal, Watford need to win by 3 or more; if Watford lose by 1 goal, they need Villa to lose by 3 or more). If they end up on the same points and goal difference, Villa stay up because of superior goals scored... unless we have an absurd situation such as Villa win 1-0 and Watofrd win 7-5 to level out goals scored, too... in which case Watford stay up because of superior head-to-head record vs Villa.
This all ignores Bournemouth of course. For them it's simple. They need to win and have both Watford and Villa lose... then Bournemouth stay up.

So yes, Villa look to have the best chance of staying up. But bear in mind they are playing West Ham who have taken 7 points from the last 9. Watford play Arsenal who, although the more difficult proposition on paper, have only taken 3 from the last 9.

All to play for!

Yes, I did not discuss bournemouth, in my comment but the writing error in the previous comment. As I mentioned, there is an advantage for Watford with an goals conceded which is also a point for the table. So I say, now Villa has +1 more than Watford, if Watford Draw and Villa lose 2 - 0 or more in the next match, then Watford will take over the position of Aston Villa. CMIIW

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Quote from: Cnut237 on July 24, 2020, 04:10:11 AM

Watford and Villa are both on 34 points, so if Watford draw and Villa lose, the goal difference doesn't matter as Watford will be 35 pts and Villa 34 pts.
Basically Watford need to get more points than Villa, or if they get the same points then Watford have to improve their goal difference relative to Villa by +2 (so if Villa draw, Watford need a win as a Watford draw would leave goal difference unchanged for both teams).
Ignoring Bournemouth again

ah yeah my mistake, i forgot about that point, i mean if they are have same point in the end, the goal conceded by watford must better than villa.

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I think the most important game of the last round is the direct clash between Manchester United and Leicester City.Chelsea has a difficult game against Wolves but I think they can win this game easily if they focus completely and play this as a final.
Manchester against Leicester is not an easy task,I think Manchester will try to win the game but also thinking to defend and get a draw as a minimum hoping Chelsea draws too.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on July 24, 2020, 02:22:35 AM

My prediction
Manchester united and Chelsea goes through

That does sound like the most likely outcome. If Chelsea lose, Leicester only need a draw... but I don't think they'll get a draw. They have Caglar Soyuncu suspended, which isn't great against an in-form United.
I think United to win, which puts Chelsea through as well irrespective of their result vs Wolves.

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It will be a really exciting closing weekend. I hope to find a multistream somewhere because there are several games I'm interested in.
I will put Liverpool on one screen and then switch between Leicester-United, Arsenal-Watford and Palace-Tottenham on the other. All highly important games.

Betting-wise, I will go for a Tottenham win and United not losing.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on July 24, 2020, 02:12:17 AM

Quote from: masulum on July 23, 2020, 09:22:51 PM

Quote from: BitSat19 on July 23, 2020, 06:05:47 AM

Aston Villa is going to face West Ham not Bournemouth in last match and they can beat them as they are playing in last few matches in other match Watford going to face Arsenal its difficult for them as Arsenal is not doing good in last few matches but they will be ok at home and Bournemouth against Everton is also not easy match for them.

Oops, sorry my bad, just remembering about bournemouth when typing. Sure, in terms of quality, arsenal is better, but hopefully what was done by Villa before could happen to Watford who also won this match. It needs a miracle indeed, but one more thing that can bring Watford out of relegation, is the number of goals conceded from Aston Villa. at present they are -26 1 point better than watford. If Aston Villa loses by more than 1 goal and Watford draws, then Watford will be the champion to survive from relegation.

Ignoring Bournemouth for a moment... in the final games, Watford need to either get more points than Villa, or else get the same result but improve their goal difference by +2 (so if Villa win by 1 goal, Watford need to win by 3 or more; if Watford lose by 1 goal, they need Villa to lose by 3 or more). If they end up on the same points and goal difference, Villa stay up because of superior goals scored... unless we have an absurd situation such as Villa win 1-0 and Watofrd win 7-5 to level out goals scored, too... in which case Watford stay up because of superior head-to-head record vs Villa.
This all ignores Bournemouth of course. For them it's simple. They need to win and have both Watford and Villa lose... then Bournemouth stay up.

So yes, Villa look to have the best chance of staying up. But bear in mind they are playing West Ham who have taken 7 points from the last 9. Watford play Arsenal who, although the more difficult proposition on paper, have only taken 3 from the last 9.

All to play for!

As it is Aston Villa are the best among them, Bournemouth and watsford to stay up. But I just have treble feeling about the teams last games for Aston Villa. The has come out hungry this last few matches and persistence also. They have been the better team amongst the three teams lately. Let the best of them stay up.

Moving away to the champions league qualification -top four-. I would say Manchester united has one foot in it, Leicester seems not to have there complete fate in their hands, but I think Chelsea won't lose to wolves and Manchester united won't lose to them.
My prediction
Manchester united and Chelsea goes through

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Quote from: masulum on July 23, 2020, 09:22:51 PM

Quote from: BitSat19 on July 23, 2020, 06:05:47 AM

Aston Villa is going to face West Ham not Bournemouth in last match and they can beat them as they are playing in last few matches in other match Watford going to face Arsenal its difficult for them as Arsenal is not doing good in last few matches but they will be ok at home and Bournemouth against Everton is also not easy match for them.

Oops, sorry my bad, just remembering about bournemouth when typing. Sure, in terms of quality, arsenal is better, but hopefully what was done by Villa before could happen to Watford who also won this match. It needs a miracle indeed, but one more thing that can bring Watford out of relegation, is the number of goals conceded from Aston Villa. at present they are -26 1 point better than watford. If Aston Villa loses by more than 1 goal and Watford draws, then Watford will be the champion to survive from relegation.

Ignoring Bournemouth for a moment... in the final games, Watford need to either get more points than Villa, or else get the same result but improve their goal difference by +2 (so if Villa win by 1 goal, Watford need to win by 3 or more; if Watford lose by 1 goal, they need Villa to lose by 3 or more). If they end up on the same points and goal difference, Villa stay up because of superior goals scored... unless we have an absurd situation such as Villa win 1-0 and Watofrd win 7-5 to level out goals scored, too... in which case Watford stay up because of superior head-to-head record vs Villa.
This all ignores Bournemouth of course. For them it's simple. They need to win and have both Watford and Villa lose... then Bournemouth stay up.

So yes, Villa look to have the best chance of staying up. But bear in mind they are playing West Ham who have taken 7 points from the last 9. Watford play Arsenal who, although the more difficult proposition on paper, have only taken 3 from the last 9.

All to play for!

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Quote from: Globb0 on July 23, 2020, 05:37:09 PM

So if I understand correctly this is it

That season turboed by in the end, didn't it.

We could have 2 seasons each year from now on?

Still lots of permutations, who goes down, who gets into the CL? The title is over but still lots of drama to unfold at the weekend, should be fun to see what happens.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 22, 2020, 09:10:05 PM

Leicester can make history in few days, if they break bad record with ManUTD. Total 27 h2h matches and they won only two times.

They are only 1 point difference, the statistics are bad for Leicester City, of the 27 matches twice win and the remaining 7 times draw, 18 times
Mancaster United win. Last 3 matches MU won with difference only 1 goal. Both teams have good motives, for MU who want to get extra points for UCL tickets while Leicester City also still has a chance because of Manchaster City get a penalty for UCL. The advantage of Leicester City to perform at home is good value even if it has to be without an audience.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on July 23, 2020, 06:05:47 AM

Aston Villa is going to face West Ham not Bournemouth in last match and they can beat them as they are playing in last few matches in other match Watford going to face Arsenal its difficult for them as Arsenal is not doing good in last few matches but they will be ok at home and Bournemouth against Everton is also not easy match for them.

Oops, sorry my bad, just remembering about bournemouth when typing. Sure, in terms of quality, arsenal is better, but hopefully what was done by Villa before could happen to Watford who also won this match. It needs a miracle indeed, but one more thing that can bring Watford out of relegation, is the number of goals conceded from Aston Villa. at present they are -26 1 point better than watford. If Aston Villa loses by more than 1 goal and Watford draws, then Watford will be the champion to survive from relegation.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on July 23, 2020, 05:59:37 PM

Quote from: snipie on July 23, 2020, 03:47:32 PM

For CL I think it is Chelsea and Man United. Leicester isn't consistent, it can score but I doubt ManU will let them win, a tie in the other hand is probable.

According to the picture above, if we looked at the current performance of MU, I am pretty sure that they will keep their position to qualify in CL. They have been consistent in the last five matches, they are undefeated. While Chelsea and Leicester have been defeated 2 times in the last five matches. Even MU will play away and Leicester players have the advantage to play at home, but I believe it is not a big problem for MU to win the last match that determines CL's ticket.
*The point is in MU, whether they will win or not, if they win then they can play at CL next season.

Picture taken from: https://www.premierleague.com/tables

One more time EPL match I am sure Chelsea and Manchester United will try their best to win at the end of this league game, CL is very important for them so that it will be as strong as possible to survive and attack with the planned strategy.
Well I'm not sure Leicester will qualify for CL next season.
But we will see who will win the match.

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Quote from: snipie on July 23, 2020, 03:47:32 PM

For CL I think it is Chelsea and Man United. Leicester isn't consistent, it can score but I doubt ManU will let them win, a tie in the other hand is probable.

According to the picture above, if we looked at the current performance of MU, I am pretty sure that they will keep their position to qualify in CL. They have been consistent in the last five matches, they are undefeated. While Chelsea and Leicester have been defeated 2 times in the last five matches. Even MU will play away and Leicester players have the advantage to play at home, but I believe it is not a big problem for MU to win the last match that determines CL's ticket.
*The point is in MU, whether they will win or not, if they win then they can play at CL next season.

Picture taken from: https://www.premierleague.com/tables

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So if I understand correctly this is it

That season turboed by in the end, didn't it.

We could have 2 seasons each year from now on?

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It has certainly been an interesting end to the season... just happy to finally get to see the captain do "The Hendo Shuffle"™ and raise the PL trophy! Cheesy

Just hope it doesn't take another 30 years for the next one! Tongue

And there is still a bit to play for in terms of the minor places... A three-way at the top between ManU, Chelsea and Leicester for the Champions League/Europa spots... and Villa and Watford desperately trying to avoid relegation. Personally, I'm more interested in the relegation battle, because I just don't care about ManU, Chelsea and Leicester Tongue

On paper, Watford have the harder game against Arsenal... but West Ham should prove difficult for Villa... in the end I think Watford will end up going down.

Predictions:
- ManU to beat Leicester
- Chelsea to beat Wolves.
- Watford lose to Arsenal
- Villa draw with the hammers

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 23, 2020, 02:44:21 PM

The only two things that are entertaining to watch for the last week is the question of who will go to champions league and question of who will relegate. I sense that it is quite near impossible for Watford to beat Arsenal (or even tie) because of what Arsenal did last game, and champions league will be Leicester and Chelsea and united will go to Europa. That is just my thought.

Watford can make unexpected surprises although Arsenal seems way better. For the relegation, I still think Watford has a chance to survive, a little hope but it exists.
For CL I think it is Chelsea and Man United. Leicester isn't consistent, it can score but I doubt ManU will let them win, a tie in the other hand is probable.
I don't like to see Leicester in CL, they will be eliminated quickly regarding their horrible performance now, however ManU used to do the same lately, so what's the difference...

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Liverpool probably didn't cared as much to break over 100 points because they will be champions anyway and they will probably win and have the second biggest point numbers in premier league history (and making their old record to 5th, so have 5th and 2nd record back to back). However the real issue was probably the break, this team is a great gegenpress team and that requires insane amount of running, and I mean insane amount, you have to be basically at everywhere at all times, thats why they didn't only got players who can run, but they got players who are persistent and have lungs like a horse so that they could max their potential. So when break happened they lost a bit of that touch and that could be one of the main reasons for not so great results. Along with the fact that they played many games knowing that they are already the champions Cheesy

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It is such a sad situation that Liverpool will not be breaking the 100 point record, they were basically going to break that and then some but with the return they lost too much to make that happen. Even if they end up winning the last game, that will be 99 points and not even, if they could have at least tied with one of the loss teams, or just simply beat Watford like they were supposed to, they would have broken the record.

The only two things that are entertaining to watch for the last week is the question of who will go to champions league and question of who will relegate. I sense that it is quite near impossible for Watford to beat Arsenal (or even tie) because of what Arsenal did last game, and champions league will be Leicester and Chelsea and united will go to Europa. That is just my thought.

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