President Trump is the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln

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Quote from: Astargath on June 10, 2019, 03:35:11 PM

I mean I know it's possible and easy to do, to be honest I'm not too familiar with the whole process but as I understand it, it would only take a group effort to manipulate a good amount of votes, right?

I linked more information on the subject so I don't have to repeat something some one else already said better than I could have. Stop insisting I spoon feed you. Please watch the doc at least, I mean it is made by HBO ffs, it isn't that long either. Once you familiarize yourself with the subject matter I would be more than happy to discuss it.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on June 09, 2019, 05:47:16 PM

Quote from: Astargath on June 09, 2019, 05:13:55 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on June 09, 2019, 02:51:31 PM

Clinton got more people votes; Trump got more electoral votes.

I've never seen any reason to doubt my original contention that Trump won the popular vote by a large margin as well. Early on in the counting there was a lot of fraud, but as the night wore on and it was not certain that Clinton would win, people got to scared to do the theft. Got 'cold feet.'

Nobody, and certainly not Trump, had any interest in chasing these election crimes down. The political class is addicted to being able to manipulate votes and won't let anything interfere with that ability. One of the consultation prizes that Hillary took away, in addition to being absolved of her lifetime of crimes, was to not be challenged on the rather absurd suggestion that she won the popular vote.

If they really manipulate the votes, wouldn't one side always win? Why would they let the other side manipulate the votes if they know how to do it as well? Wouldn't they just collide with each other at most?

There is a certain point at which the deficit is so large they can not swing enough votes to change the tide without exposing the manipulation. I would recommend checking out the work of Bev Harris at Black Box Voting, and watching the documentary Hacking Democracy to learn more about the process.

I mean I know it's possible and easy to do, to be honest I'm not too familiar with the whole process but as I understand it, it would only take a group effort to manipulate a good amount of votes, right?

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Quote from: Astargath on June 09, 2019, 05:13:55 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on June 09, 2019, 04:17:23 PM

Quote from: BADecker on June 09, 2019, 02:51:31 PM

Clinton got more people votes; Trump got more electoral votes.

I've never seen any reason to doubt my original contention that Trump won the popular vote by a large margin as well. Early on in the counting there was a lot of fraud, but as the night wore on and it was not certain that Clinton would win, people got to scared to do the theft. Got 'cold feet.'

Nobody, and certainly not Trump, had any interest in chasing these election crimes down. The political class is addicted to being able to manipulate votes and won't let anything interfere with that ability. One of the consultation prizes that Hillary took away, in addition to being absolved of her lifetime of crimes, was to not be challenged on the rather absurd suggestion that she won the popular vote.

If they really manipulate the votes, wouldn't one side always win? Why would they let the other side manipulate the votes if they know how to do it as well? Wouldn't they just collide with each other at most?

There is a certain point at which the deficit is so large they can not swing enough votes to change the tide without exposing the manipulation. I would recommend checking out the work of Bev Harris at Black Box Voting, and watching the documentary Hacking Democracy to learn more about the process.

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Quote from: tvbcof on June 09, 2019, 04:17:23 PM

Quote from: BADecker on June 09, 2019, 02:51:31 PM

Clinton got more people votes; Trump got more electoral votes.

I've never seen any reason to doubt my original contention that Trump won the popular vote by a large margin as well. Early on in the counting there was a lot of fraud, but as the night wore on and it was not certain that Clinton would win, people got to scared to do the theft. Got 'cold feet.'

Nobody, and certainly not Trump, had any interest in chasing these election crimes down. The political class is addicted to being able to manipulate votes and won't let anything interfere with that ability. One of the consultation prizes that Hillary took away, in addition to being absolved of her lifetime of crimes, was to not be challenged on the rather absurd suggestion that she won the popular vote.

If they really manipulate the votes, wouldn't one side always win? Why would they let the other side manipulate the votes if they know how to do it as well? Wouldn't they just collide with each other at most?

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Quote from: BADecker on June 09, 2019, 02:51:31 PM

Clinton got more people votes; Trump got more electoral votes.

I've never seen any reason to doubt my original contention that Trump won the popular vote by a large margin as well. Early on in the counting there was a lot of fraud, but as the night wore on and it was not certain that Clinton would win, people got to scared to do the theft. Got 'cold feet.'

Nobody, and certainly not Trump, had any interest in chasing these election crimes down. The political class is addicted to being able to manipulate votes and won't let anything interfere with that ability. One of the consultation prizes that Hillary took away, in addition to being absolved of her lifetime of crimes, was to not be challenged on the rather absurd suggestion that she won the popular vote.

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Clinton got more people votes; Trump got more electoral votes.

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Quote from: ck343 on June 07, 2019, 05:35:35 AM

I don't know if Trump is the best Potus since AL, but it seems to me he is the most openly and viciously hated by the news corporations

It is a trick, They love each other behind closed doors, it is like WWF (fake good guy, bad guy) behind the stage they friends.

It's certainly not a trick, it's liberal propaganda, they are not friends behind closed doors and it's not like Trump won the elections by a ton, it was really close, in fact I believe Clinton got more votes? So if your argument is that they are doing it on purpose to make Trump look like the good guy, they aren't really accomplishing it, most of the other countries also seem to think Trump is basically Satan.

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Quote from: ck343 on June 07, 2019, 05:35:35 AM

I don't know if Trump is the best Potus since AL, but it seems to me he is the most openly and viciously hated by the news corporations

It is a trick, They love each other behind closed doors, it is like WWF (fake good guy, bad guy) behind the stage they friends.

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^^^ Any/every president is the best president since Abraham Lincoln.

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I don't know if Trump is the best Potus since AL, but it seems to me he is the most openly and viciously hated by the news corporations

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^^^ He probably missed the end of a bad play. Cool

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Quote from: TimeBits on May 25, 2019, 03:12:48 PM

https://twitter.com/ThugLifeBlazer/status/1132377347137724416
https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1132094914026770432

-JonVoight

I have to say I don`t agree I think that JFK was alright. I think Nixon was the worst.

First, I agree that president Lincoln was great president.
He won in the american civil war and he finished slavery.
It's too early to start talking about the president Trump as great president.
Nixon was perhaps the best American president in the last century.
He knew how to approach China, how to to reach an agreement with them and put the first wedge in the communist bloc.
President Trump should learn from his example.

Lincoln caused the civil war. Also no one really wins civil wars. He never gave a fuck about slavery, he even explicitly said if he could end the war without ending slavery he would have. I have mixed feelings about Nixon, there are a lot of things about him I do not like, but at least he wasn't an ineffectual spinless turd like some of the other presidents we have had. Trump is simply dealing with the hand crafted cluster fuck created by previous administrations (on both sides of the isle) that was left for him. So far I think he is doing a good job, but more can always be done. At least he has made a notable change in trend.

Well, I think it is too exaggerating to say that Lincoln caused the civil war.
Conflict of advocates and opponents of slavery has already been so severe that war was inevitable.
I agree that Nixon had many weak points but he also dif many great things including split in communist block.
About Trump I would not speak for now, time will show.

The civil war was a direct result of Lincolns incompetence and him allowing himself to be used as a tool of European bankers. IMO he is directly responsible for causing the civil war. He created all the circumstances that brought it forward, as well as denied the Southern states their legal constitutional rights to secession, instead choosing to solve the conflict via a nation crushing war. He was not a smart man and he got played like a fiddle. Whats more I think he realized it later in life and attempted to rectify his mistake, that is when he was assassinated.

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Quote from: Mometaskers on June 04, 2019, 10:51:06 AM

As a non-American I know little of their politics and was skeptical of Trump. I'm still not sure where he is taking his country but I'm starting to get entertained on how he just tell everyone to go fuck themselves.

Quote from: mayo2u on May 27, 2019, 06:30:54 PM

Let's see. Look at Trump's reception in China and compare it with Obama. Look at his respect in Japan. And, if nothing else look at the positive progress in the Korean peninsula.

Who should we compare that to? Obama? Bush 43? Clinton? Bush 41? No, you have to at least go back to Reagan.

Obama is a war criminal. He should have been stripped of his Nobel Peace award.

War is Peace. Peace is War.

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War
a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

Peace
a state or period in which there is no war or a war has ended.
freedom from disturbance; tranquility.

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Quote from: Mometaskers on June 04, 2019, 10:51:06 AM

As a non-American I know little of their politics and was skeptical of Trump. I'm still not sure where he is taking his country but I'm starting to get entertained on how he just tell everyone to go fuck themselves.

Quote from: mayo2u on May 27, 2019, 06:30:54 PM

Let's see. Look at Trump's reception in China and compare it with Obama. Look at his respect in Japan. And, if nothing else look at the positive progress in the Korean peninsula.

Who should we compare that to? Obama? Bush 43? Clinton? Bush 41? No, you have to at least go back to Reagan.

Obama is a war criminal. He should have been stripped of his Nobel Peace award.

War is Peace. Peace is War.

(Dictionary of NewSpeak)

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Quote from: Mometaskers on June 04, 2019, 10:51:06 AM

As a non-American I know little of their politics and was skeptical of Trump. I'm still not sure where he is taking his country but I'm starting to get entertained on how he just tell everyone to go fuck themselves.

Quote from: mayo2u on May 27, 2019, 06:30:54 PM

Let's see. Look at Trump's reception in China and compare it with Obama. Look at his respect in Japan. And, if nothing else look at the positive progress in the Korean peninsula.

Who should we compare that to? Obama? Bush 43? Clinton? Bush 41? No, you have to at least go back to Reagan.

Obama is a war criminal. He should have been stripped of his Nobel Peace award.

Yah when he got the peace award shortly after this...
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/obama-explains-decision-to-send-more-troops-to-syria-673035331562
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/25/barack-obama-us-soldiers-islamic-state-syria
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/obama-sends-30-000-more-troops-to-afghanistan-1.779225
Oh by the way when he was running, he said he was going to remove the troops, not send them in.

Vote people to vote for you is so dumb

I guess sending good men to kill and be killed is peace! Did you see the video of the helicopter gunning down innocent people? A little kid fucking got lit up.

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As a non-American I know little of their politics and was skeptical of Trump. I'm still not sure where he is taking his country but I'm starting to get entertained on how he just tell everyone to go fuck themselves.

Quote from: mayo2u on May 27, 2019, 06:30:54 PM

Let's see. Look at Trump's reception in China and compare it with Obama. Look at his respect in Japan. And, if nothing else look at the positive progress in the Korean peninsula.

Who should we compare that to? Obama? Bush 43? Clinton? Bush 41? No, you have to at least go back to Reagan.

Obama is a war criminal. He should have been stripped of his Nobel Peace award.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on June 01, 2019, 10:43:15 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on June 01, 2019, 09:05:38 AM

Quote from: TimeBits on May 25, 2019, 03:12:48 PM

https://twitter.com/ThugLifeBlazer/status/1132377347137724416
https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1132094914026770432

-JonVoight

I have to say I don`t agree I think that JFK was alright. I think Nixon was the worst.

First, I agree that president Lincoln was great president.
He won in the american civil war and he finished slavery.
It's too early to start talking about the president Trump as great president.
Nixon was perhaps the best American president in the last century.
He knew how to approach China, how to to reach an agreement with them and put the first wedge in the communist bloc.
President Trump should learn from his example.

Lincoln caused the civil war. Also no one really wins civil wars. He never gave a fuck about slavery, he even explicitly said if he could end the war without ending slavery he would have. I have mixed feelings about Nixon, there are a lot of things about him I do not like, but at least he wasn't an ineffectual spinless turd like some of the other presidents we have had. Trump is simply dealing with the hand crafted cluster fuck created by previous administrations (on both sides of the isle) that was left for him. So far I think he is doing a good job, but more can always be done. At least he has made a notable change in trend.

Well, I think it is too exaggerating to say that Lincoln caused the civil war.
Conflict of advocates and opponents of slavery has already been so severe that war was inevitable.
I agree that Nixon had many weak points but he also dif many great things including split in communist block.
About Trump I would not speak for now, time will show.

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Quote from: BADecker on June 03, 2019, 04:20:48 PM

How about Lee Iacocca? Too smart to be a US president. But way smarter than Lincoln or Trump in company president activities.

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Lee Iacocca was not a USA president and there’s no doubt about his wisdom, but it’s not fair to compare him to any presidents. Trump is a totally different president than Linocln ever was, he has taken steps to make America great again and restore jobs on American soil. While many have criticised him for the trade war, I feel he’s justified in this war as the government will now earn lots of revenue in taxes and duties which can be reinvested in America to create jobs.

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How about Lee Iacocca? Too smart to be a US president. But way smarter than Lincoln or Trump in company president activities.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 01, 2019, 09:05:38 AM

Quote from: TimeBits on May 25, 2019, 03:12:48 PM

https://twitter.com/ThugLifeBlazer/status/1132377347137724416
https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1132094914026770432

-JonVoight

I have to say I don`t agree I think that JFK was alright. I think Nixon was the worst.

First, I agree that president Lincoln was great president.
He won in the american civil war and he finished slavery.
It's too early to start talking about the president Trump as great president.
Nixon was perhaps the best American president in the last century.
He knew how to approach China, how to to reach an agreement with them and put the first wedge in the communist bloc.
President Trump should learn from his example.

Lincoln caused the civil war. Also no one really wins civil wars. He never gave a fuck about slavery, he even explicitly said if he could end the war without ending slavery he would have. I have mixed feelings about Nixon, there are a lot of things about him I do not like, but at least he wasn't an ineffectual spinless turd like some of the other presidents we have had. Trump is simply dealing with the hand crafted cluster fuck created by previous administrations (on both sides of the isle) that was left for him. So far I think he is doing a good job, but more can always be done. At least he has made a notable change in trend.

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