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Topic: **PRESIDENT TRUMP**OFFICIAL THREAD***TRUMP COIN***OFFICIAL THREAD - page 213. (Read 268493 times)

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Should have this online wallet ready in a few hours. Maybe tomorrow, still testing, cant afford mishaps.
This will be very helpful on broadening the user base of Trump Coin, in particular those not familiar with Crypto.


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Lets move the convo away from from mining.

I can do better than that. I'm moving mining away from this convo. Trump mining site almost complete (guides, calculators, historical performance data, market depth analyzers, etc).

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Lets get the convo on a more TRUMPISH LEVEL Smiley

Agreed. My noobish rants are over now, seeing that I was a bit mal-informed on many points and causing more harm than good. That was just years of frustrations from lurking coming out.
Level up time...

Let's do this.
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Trump: 'I will get states that are unbelievable'

Trump says he would win Michigan in a general election and he might even win New York.

“With me, I add a lot of states that aren’t even in play for anybody else,” Trump says, mentioning the Rust Belt. “I will get states that are unbelievable, that are unthinkable for the Republican party.”

Go get that bitch, Clinton Grin
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Ben Carson has just endorsed Trump. Its now looking almost certain Trump will win the nomination.
That will be the criminal Hilary Clintons worst nightmare.
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A member sent me this message. These are useful suggestions.



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Have you ever used Fivver ?

https://www.fiverr.com/categories/online-marketing/social-marketing#layout=auto&page=3 
That's a link to one of their sections,people do absolutely anything for a fiver! My son used to use them to win competitions,he realised that was what others did so he gave it ago and he never had a bad deal. I suppose Twitter would be the most useful.
Unfortunately they don't take Trumps,it's paypal  but if its not useful for Trump Coin it's a useful site for all sorts ideas for future reference
Anyway,hope your keeping well


My day job is running a small business (sound design company). There is only so much I can do. Heres the challenge.
Anyone up for running the Facebook Trump Coin page?
Anyone up for organising a signature campaign.
They would have to be paid in Trumps , not BTC.
More Faucets
Can anyone help in any other way to spread the word?


Twitter is going fine. The focus there is on people who might be interested in adopting/buying/trading, not so much
random people just to increase the follow count.



Lets move the convo away from from mining. Lets get the convo on a more TRUMPISH LEVEL Smiley

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White Male Libertarian Bro
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Moving trumpcoin.rocks to a new server with DDoS Protection same for the explorer.
Trying to finish search transactions function and design for TrumpBlock
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It's a good time to point your mining rigs at TrumpCoin.

Mined coins are currently down to 220 sats for renters while difficulty is low.

Current Block: 12713
Difficulty: 25.66061285
Total Coins: 4,178,250

Avg Mining Rental: 0.43146 BTC/GHS/Day
Est Coin Return: 195986.819773916 Coins/GHS/Day
Cost Per Coin: 0.00000220

Dump Depth: 0.00000016 BTC

Total Dump Value: 0.34779080 BTC
Dump Value Per Coin: 0.00000177 BTC

Profit Per Coin: -0.00000043 BTC
Total Profit: -0.08427433 BTC

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as long as Trump is still winning, this coin will not die
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So will this coin die soon?
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Trump is not going to be mentioning Trump coin at a rally IMO. I don't see how that could help him.

You know you can tweet it to him. He does read the tweets personally. He has mention a forum that im on several times. Because they have tweeted him...
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Trump is not going to be mentioning Trump coin at a rally IMO. I don't see how that could help him.
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I miss dooglus
thanks for the trump faucet.
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just need Dinald to mention trumpcoin once at a rally

Just once. That's all it would take.  Roll Eyes
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just need Donald to mention trumpcoin once at a rally
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250 TRUMP x 720 blocks per day = 180000 TRUMP x 0.000004 BTC = 0.72 BTC of daily buy volume needed to support a price of 400 satoshis.  A measly 0.72 BTC per day if all the coins were being dumped.



As long as the price stays below what is profitable to miners, there is a deficit adding up. Yes, at 400 sat, that deficit is, as you have correctly identified, growing at a MINIMUM rate of 0.72 BTC per day.

You are also correct in that 0.72 can withstand today's coin production.

But miners didn't get paid yesterday, or the day before that, or the day before that. From the miner's perspective, traders owe them a ton of BTC right now.

I believe the majority of miners absolutely HATE (or should hate) Nicehash because of this situation which inflates mining costs and difficulties unnaturally and unfairly, spooks investors, and destroys fair trade.

We can't ignore this and pretend like it doesn't exist and then go "WTF just happened" when a good idea fails because the market crashed. It seriously needs to be addressed. The longer investors sit around and let the debt accumulate, the higher the breakout mark gets and the more doomed the economy will be.

It hasn't gotten too far away yet. It can still be corrected. But it'll never happen as long as price suppression occurs against high coin production rates.
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I see TRUMP staying around 400-500 for awhile
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The volume for the past 24 hours is 2.82 BTC.  The total marketcap of TRUMP currently is a little over 16 BTC.  Looking back on the volume TRUMP had during it's pump, it's easy to surmise that a significant # of TRUMP coin is being traded back and forth.  These are not miner dumps.  These are traders, IMHO.


We're saying the same thing Wink


Smart miners are caching their coins into exchange wallets right now to create buffers between what they do and what you do. They aren't dumping them yet.

Miners know the difference between dumping and dumbping.
The standoff between miners and traders can be observed with some really simple math.

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Current Miner Rental Stats:

Block: 12468
Difficulty: 75
Coin count: 4,117,000

Mining cost: 0.42 BTC/GHS/Day
Est Coin Return: 128,663.987 TRUMP/GHS/Day
Mining cost per coin: 0.00000327 BTC

Market floor at Coin Return Depth: 0.00000167

Mining profit per coin: -0.00000160


So cost is a little cheaper today and profit rose slightly but still negative and not profitable mining.

When profit per coin rises above 0, you will start to see mining dumps ramping up. When profit per coin nears the double mark of the raw cost, you will see very steady heavy dumping. That is the point where competition for hashes switches to competition to exchange.

Yesterday's raw cost was around 500 sat/coin. Today's is down to 327. Today's tipping point is 700.

Believe that every day, many times a day, miners are snapshotting these statistics. But current statistics are really just an entry point.
Miners with larger caches that have been at it for a bit and/or run private rigs, have cheaper exchange points at very high volumes.


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250 TRUMP x 720 blocks per day = 180000 TRUMP x 0.000004 BTC = 0.72 BTC of daily buy volume needed to support a price of 400 satoshis.  A measly 0.72 BTC per day if all the coins were being dumped.

Our math roughly aligns. Mine is just from a miner's perspective and yes, does fluctuate with rental demands and a plethora of other factors. Both perspectives, yours and mine, tell the future when looked at together.
What I'm showing you is that truly invested miners will not be dumping on that 400 mark because even if that price had a wide enough floor to support a large dump, it would be a loss after exchange fees.


So I suppose price suppression by traders is sensible if traders want to maximize their profits at lower price floors. I totally get that. But by doing this, traders are shorting miners on coin production costs and forcing many of them to mine at a loss, effectively creating a Ponzi in the market built around unfair trade and market manipulations and bag holders. This is why they dump. They have to. It's the Us or Them mentality. Some will be patient and hold their caches until, as it has been said, weak knees shake. But some very smart miners are lurking in the background waiting to dump their caches. They don't care about the traders because the traders don't care about them. They will suppress back when the tables turn.

The tables always turn. Always.



EDIT: I just want to point out that I'm not attacking this coin. I believe what I am saying applies equally to most alts out there. Our current situation is very common.



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