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The quote is from Robo_alt. I am posting it here as per their request. According to them, this case isn't resolved yet.

I'd really appreciate if members bump up this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedice-targeting-old-vip-users-autobet-bug-not-resolved-yet-2526260 (It's still unresolved)
What would you like to be added to the thread?

The case is from 7 years ago, that's quite a long time. Stunna as we speak has now also been inactive for a good number of months. In that case, it looks like he sent you a PM. Are you trying to say, he didn't help after that?

Hello JeromeTash  Smiley

After speaking with Stunna the case wasn't resolved, Stunna said they don't remember any bug about autobet being fixed in our PM convo.

Then Edward took over in telegram chat and offered me 0.01 BTC to mark the case as solved rather than compensating the whole amount.
I did sent the emails to MICRO (Primedice's head support) and he said there's a possibility it might be compensated for me for the bug caused.
After that email I didn't hear from Primedice's team, they ignored my case. And now they've also deleted my account "Wyane" from their database (Most likely becasue of our clash)

If someone can bump up the thread stating something like "The case isn't resolved yet, Robo_alt is accusing primedice in 'scam accusation' section of the forum"
Maybe they will respond, the timing of me getting banned in the middle of this scam accusation was bad.
I admit getting banned was a major mistake on my side.

Quote from Edward.
After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  Undecided

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

Yes there is very horrible bug in auto-betting which is making players without money, PD4 is full of bugs and problem of instability as the ratio of downtime is more bigger than the previous version, we can say this it's bad launch ever from the team.

Autobet on Primedice had problem also on previous versions, it's time to fix it guys


If the staff of primedice reads this and want to correct their mistake then contact me on telegram: @Leblock
hero member
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2. "I haven't even given gameprotect negative trust", I instead added him to ignore.
Yes, and that sounded like there are reasonable grounds to give one, but based on generosity or whatever did not.

And I informed that I would like to see it.

I love the feedbacks I received and would like to see more to have more to laugh. Smiley
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Spear the bees
Did not send a negative feedback, still waiting for it.
(Last derailment I'll do from the thread): I thought you were referring to the negative trust that Stunna gave out, not the one that you are expecting from Stunna. After all, they did say, "I haven't even given gameprotect negative trust," so your post wasn't very clear.
@Stunna, is there any update on this?
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2. I left a few people negative trust in all of 2017 and it was almost entirely phishing/scamming related. I'm very inactive at giving trust, I haven't even given gameprotect negative trust, I instead added him to ignore.
I would love to see that negative trust?
Go into Stunna's trust page and look at the sent feedback.
Did not send a negative feedback, still waiting for it.  Smiley
copper member
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Spear the bees
2. I left a few people negative trust in all of 2017 and it was almost entirely phishing/scamming related. I'm very inactive at giving trust, I haven't even given gameprotect negative trust, I instead added him to ignore.
I would love to see that negative trust?
Go into Stunna's trust page and look at the sent feedback.
hero member
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2. I left a few people negative trust in all of 2017 and it was almost entirely phishing/scamming related. I'm very inactive at giving trust, I haven't even given gameprotect negative trust, I instead added him to ignore.
I would love to see that negative trust?
legendary
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.

Specifically the issue surrounding the Mute is no longer an issue. With regards to the autobetting bug I haven't been able to find any proof of this, if Rob could PM me bet ID's or anything further information I can look into it more but I'm not sure what anyone could expect me to do here with the very limited information I've been provided surrounding a years old complaint.

This thread was actually specifically about being muted and then the autobet issue that occurred in 2016 was patched into it later on. The question lies, did we patch autobet or make any changes to it based off this guy's experience. I don't believe so, I don't think there was ever an issue within the code pertaining to autobet not stopping or restarting after hitting stop I can double-check with our team.

Also I'm not sure how you're claiming you lost 0.3 now when originally it was 0.21, there's nothing I can work with here. PM me every detail you have and I can look into it to the best of my ability but just being like "in 2016 i lost money to autobet not stopping" It's difficult to really do anything about this.

I provided the details to the micro year ago and I did PM'ed you about it as well in past but I did not get any response after that as I've said.
My initial balance was around 0.21 when I started the auto bet if remember correctly and when I was trying to stop it was around 0.3 / I did not include the profit from that initial balance in that case.

If supports had taken it seriously in past and didn't ignore the issue back there then I am sure the case would have been solved by now or maybe they did not wanted to solve it. As I understand there would have been other fake claims from other people and surely PD wanted to avoid that totally.

Yep, I'm sorry your experience was negative. I'm glad you understand the position we're in where we get bombarded with a ton of fake claims from opportunists, ultimately we can only rely on evidence. Any chance you can re-forward me anything you can find surrounding this issue. For this specific case It's best if you work with me directly instead of support.

Thanks

Yes, I understand but it doesn't change the fact that PD ignored me and did not reply at all even after having so many supports members.
How can I provide any screenshot or video now? I provided everything to micro in past every detail I had. But I did not hear back anything or found that anyone was even trying to help, I was just promised in my case it can be compensated.

Sent you a PM.
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I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.

Specifically the issue surrounding the Mute is no longer an issue. With regards to the autobetting bug I haven't been able to find any proof of this, if Rob could PM me bet ID's or anything further information I can look into it more but I'm not sure what anyone could expect me to do here with the very limited information I've been provided surrounding a years old complaint.

This thread was actually specifically about being muted and then the autobet issue that occurred in 2016 was patched into it later on. The question lies, did we patch autobet or make any changes to it based off this guy's experience. I don't believe so, I don't think there was ever an issue within the code pertaining to autobet not stopping or restarting after hitting stop I can double-check with our team.

Also I'm not sure how you're claiming you lost 0.3 now when originally it was 0.21, there's nothing I can work with here. PM me every detail you have and I can look into it to the best of my ability but just being like "in 2016 i lost money to autobet not stopping" It's difficult to really do anything about this.

I provided the details to the micro year ago and I did PM'ed you about it as well in past but I did not get any response after that as I've said.
My initial balance was around 0.21 when I started the auto bet if remember correctly and when I was trying to stop it was around 0.3 / I did not include the profit from that initial balance in that case.

If supports had taken it seriously in past and didn't ignore the issue back there then I am sure the case would have been solved by now or maybe they did not wanted to solve it. As I understand there would have been other fake claims from other people and surely PD wanted to avoid that totally.

Yep, I'm sorry your experience was negative. I'm glad you understand the position we're in where we get bombarded with a ton of fake claims from opportunists, ultimately we can only rely on evidence. Any chance you can re-forward me anything you can find surrounding this issue. For this specific case It's best if you work with me directly instead of support.

Thanks

Yes, I understand but it doesn't change the fact that PD ignored me and did not reply at all even after having so many supports members.
How can I provide any screenshot or video now? I provided everything to micro in past every detail I had. But I did not hear back anything or found that anyone was even trying to help, I was just promised in my case it can be compensated.
legendary
Activity: 3192
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.

Specifically the issue surrounding the Mute is no longer an issue. With regards to the autobetting bug I haven't been able to find any proof of this, if Rob could PM me bet ID's or anything further information I can look into it more but I'm not sure what anyone could expect me to do here with the very limited information I've been provided surrounding a years old complaint.

This thread was actually specifically about being muted and then the autobet issue that occurred in 2016 was patched into it later on. The question lies, did we patch autobet or make any changes to it based off this guy's experience. I don't believe so, I don't think there was ever an issue within the code pertaining to autobet not stopping or restarting after hitting stop I can double-check with our team.

Also I'm not sure how you're claiming you lost 0.3 now when originally it was 0.21, there's nothing I can work with here. PM me every detail you have and I can look into it to the best of my ability but just being like "in 2016 i lost money to autobet not stopping" It's difficult to really do anything about this.

I provided the details to the micro year ago and I did PM'ed you about it as well in past but I did not get any response after that as I've said.
My initial balance was around 0.21 when I started the auto bet if remember correctly and when I was trying to stop it was around 0.3 / I did not include the profit from that initial balance in that case.

If supports had taken it seriously in past and didn't ignore the issue back there then I am sure the case would have been solved by now or maybe they did not wanted to solve it. As I understand there would have been other fake claims from other people and surely PD wanted to avoid that totally.

Yep, I'm sorry your experience was negative. I'm glad you understand the position we're in where we get bombarded with a ton of fake claims from opportunists, ultimately we can only rely on evidence. Any chance you can re-forward me anything you can find surrounding this issue. For this specific case It's best if you work with me directly instead of support.

Thanks
hero member
Activity: 882
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I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.

Specifically the issue surrounding the Mute is no longer an issue. With regards to the autobetting bug I haven't been able to find any proof of this, if Rob could PM me bet ID's or anything further information I can look into it more but I'm not sure what anyone could expect me to do here with the very limited information I've been provided surrounding a years old complaint.

This thread was actually specifically about being muted and then the autobet issue that occurred in 2016 was patched into it later on. The question lies, did we patch autobet or make any changes to it based off this guy's experience. I don't believe so, I don't think there was ever an issue within the code pertaining to autobet not stopping or restarting after hitting stop I can double-check with our team.

Also I'm not sure how you're claiming you lost 0.3 now when originally it was 0.21, there's nothing I can work with here. PM me every detail you have and I can look into it to the best of my ability but just being like "in 2016 i lost money to autobet not stopping" It's difficult to really do anything about this.

I provided the details to the micro year ago and I did PM'ed you about it as well in past but I did not get any response after that as I've said.
My initial balance was around 0.21 when I started the auto bet if remember correctly and when I was trying to stop it was around 0.3 / I did not include the profit from that initial balance in that case.

If supports had taken it seriously in past and didn't ignore the issue back there then I am sure the case would have been solved by now or maybe they did not wanted to solve it. As I understand there would have been other fake claims from other people and surely PD wanted to avoid that totally.
legendary
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.

Specifically the issue surrounding the Mute is no longer an issue. With regards to the autobetting bug I haven't been able to find any proof of this, if Rob could PM me bet ID's or anything further information I can look into it more but I'm not sure what anyone could expect me to do here with the very limited information I've been provided surrounding a years old complaint.

This thread was actually specifically about being muted and then the autobet issue that occurred in 2016 was patched into it later on. The question lies, did we patch autobet or make any changes to it based off this guy's experience. I don't believe so, I don't think there was ever an issue within the code pertaining to autobet not stopping or restarting after hitting stop I can double-check with our team.

Also I'm not sure how you're claiming you lost 0.3 now when originally it was 0.21, there's nothing I can work with here. PM me every detail you have and I can look into it to the best of my ability but just being like "in 2016 i lost money to autobet not stopping" It's difficult to really do anything about this.


I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.
Primedice and Stake have an ignore part within their business strategy, that is why!

I asked them several serious and important questions and they are still unanswered until today and probably will forever.

If you check the account of stunna you will find his email was changed recently, I am waiting to hear an interesting story from them again. I heard a rumor about them and asked them if they trade with the users bitcoins. To which stunna replied no they don't. But I feel that they do it. And the main reason is primedice is running because of stunna's Place in DT.
Most of the users afraid to speak against him as if they will get negged by stunna.

You put me in a very difficult position when I'm more than willing to give up time to help individual players resolve old issues because I do want everyone to have a positive experience. However, you're really testing my patience when you just sit here and spin up conspiracy theories instead of trying to work this out with me directly and it honestly makes me question your original claims and intent. However to your credit a lack of total transparency on our side will ultimately result in such theories and we either have to prove ourselves or stomach them.

1. PD is simply not insolvent and total user balances are probably equal to a couple weeks profits it isn't like an exchange which holds massive balances. We aren't trading user funds or doing anything with them in fact the largest PD balance is 20-30 coins right now, users deposit, play, withdraw. We had to set large withdrawals to manual for a specific reason which I cannot talk about quite yet, I wish I could say more. This will be reverted within a week.

2. I left a few people negative trust in all of 2017 and it was almost entirely phishing/scamming related. I'm very inactive at giving trust, I haven't even given gameprotect negative trust, I instead added him to ignore.

3. The email on this account changed because our domain registrar gave away our domain briefly to an attacker and I had a PD domain email on here and quickly changed it to prevent it from being recovered by the attacker.

I pride myself on being a reasonable person and I would never deny someone legitimate their funds to make a quick buck. That's why we've been around so long. You need to put yourself in my shoes, if we can prove within a reasonable doubt that you're owed 0.21 for the autobet bug mentioned then you'll get paid out. Give me what I need to make this happen.
hero member
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I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.
Primedice and Stake have an ignore part within their business strategy, that is why!

I asked them several serious and important questions and they are still unanswered until today and probably will forever.

If you check the account of stunna you will find his email was changed recently, I am waiting to hear an interesting story from them again. I heard a rumor about them and asked them if they trade with the users bitcoins. To which stunna replied no they don't. But I feel that they do it. And the main reason is primedice is running because of stunna's Place in DT.
Most of the users afraid to speak against him as if they will get negged by stunna.
hero member
Activity: 1344
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I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.
Primedice and Stake have an ignore part within their business strategy, that is why!

I asked them several serious and important questions and they are still unanswered until today and probably will forever.
legendary
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I have one question to make. Why this problem isn't solved yet?
We are heading to the 4rth month and no solution from PD. For a problem that it should be solved almost instantly.
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Here's another dirty work of Primedice " https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32909727" They are keeping this guy's money for 10 days now and not replying even when he has completed his KYC formalities.

lol , i did tell you earlier that they did same with me. now they will make excuse that stunna was on vacation or they were filling their hot wallet.

If you ask me then i would say there was no hufflepuff in past it was a made up story and these guys don't allow you to change your seed on primedice after you have done it once in a day. which is totally unfair stunnas email was changed recently. maybe edward control this account now  Grin
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Here's another dirty work of Primedice " https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32909727" They are keeping this guy's money for 10 days now and not replying even when he has completed his KYC formalities.
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This primarily feels like just a push towards self promotion for your own affiliation, if you want me to take your opinion seriously remove all the affiliate links from your website and PM me serious proof of your accusations against curacao egaming not just random circumstantial anecdotes.
Game Protect will neither stop offering to Qualify cost free for our online gaming consumer protection service nor send you the hard proof that those sub-licenses have no legal basis.

The hard proof that those sub-licenses have no legal basis is worth $100,000s as I can offer a 100% cashback assistance for any of the 1000s casinos.

We can make it unlike easier: If you operate under the 1668/JAZ license, show us your authorization?


You will have to wait 1 year for getting this answer. Maybe their support will help you with passing that time or I say wasting it.
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However the details are pretty hazy so I'll have to re-explore this again. Your accusation is basically that you weren't able to stop autobet from going and then you lost too many times in a row and busted?
If there's a bug on the software side then that's your fault and thus the losses should be compensated. Have you investigated this yet?
Currently, it's Roboabhishek's word against the Primedice staff's. And despite the disparity between the trust of the two individuals, they must be treated as somewhat equal (to prevent abuse from the latter side).

In terms of the faucet situation, I always find this a bit stupid. Yes, I would consider it abuse when you're claiming 50/day every day without depositing – it makes sense as it is unprofitable for the casino. But if this is a problem, then why not limit it automatically by preventing claims w/o deposits (of some arbitrary size or formulated amount)?

Or get rid of it completely.

I was regularly depositing and playing on the website so I doubt it was any lost for them.  http://prntscr.com/iuqui4

My deposit history

You can clearly see I was doing regular deposits.




The list is even bigger. Even then they can't take care of their customers and call out their users for abusing faucet. Literally a horrible website



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However the details are pretty hazy so I'll have to re-explore this again. Your accusation is basically that you weren't able to stop autobet from going and then you lost too many times in a row and busted?
If there's a bug on the software side then that's your fault and thus the losses should be compensated. Have you investigated this yet?
Currently, it's Roboabhishek's word against the Primedice staff's. And despite the disparity between the trust of the two individuals, they must be treated as somewhat equal (to prevent abuse from the latter side).

In terms of the faucet situation, I always find this a bit stupid. Yes, I would consider it abuse when you're claiming 50/day every day without depositing – it makes sense as it is unprofitable for the casino. But if this is a problem, then why not limit it automatically by preventing claims w/o deposits (of some arbitrary size or formulated amount)?

Or get rid of it completely.
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lol this website sucks in everyway. they says they have disabled insta withdrawals. Like they were enabled before. They were not processing my withdraw instantly when i needed that instantly for selling a lot of time this month.

You can open your accusation if you want but people here fear that you will be given -ve instantly if you open up a matter against a trusted member. Before opening this thread I consulted this topic with some highly reputable members on the forum sadly a few denied to help cause it was against stunna "Will not call out any of those"

And about the topic, I didn't receive any feedback from the owner after the feedback they left above. I believe that if they admit it then there will be many other claims that they lost cause of the bug that's why it's being delayed again and again.
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