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Quote from: LiQuidx on November 07, 2014, 08:59:37 AM

Quote from: williamj2543 on November 07, 2014, 08:33:42 AM

What is the bet limit? Is there a limit per day, or per minute?

The max payout per bet is 20 BTC. There is no daily or limit per minute.

Apparently there is some kind of a limit:

Quote from: Stunna on November 07, 2014, 07:32:56 AM

Quote from: ltcnim on November 07, 2014, 06:23:57 AM

@Stunna: It looks like you limited the amount of bets per account.

This was due to many people abusing the API and spamming bets.

I guess it's per second rather than per minute or per day. I'm sure it would be useful for bot authors to know what the limit actually is, so they can stay within it.

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Quote from: MICRO on November 07, 2014, 02:52:17 AM

Math can give u some estimate but it doesn't mean much in real life. As proven by Hufflepuff . He wagered 60k btc and is in profit of 2000 when he should be in about -600 .

For that stuff i don't rely on math to much.

What Hufflepuff did was something like a 2% chance. Unlikely, but not unreasonable. He had a 1 in 50 chance of doing what he did.

The screenshot that was posted was something like a 1 in a quadrillion chance. Unreasonably unlikely.

We can say that it's plausible that Hufflepuff wasn't cheating, and that it's incredibly likely that the screenshot of 9 losing 98% bets in a row was fake.

A 1 in 50 shot is many orders of magnitude more likely to happen than 1 in 2 quadrillion.

We rely on math and probability for Bitcoin itself. There's a small but non-zero chance that I can guess the PD cold storage private key, but math tells us that's very unlikely, and so we trust that it won't happen.

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Quote from: williamj2543 on November 07, 2014, 08:33:42 AM

What is the bet limit? Is there a limit per day, or per minute?

The max payout per bet is 20 BTC. There is no daily or limit per minute.

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Get ready for PrimeDice Sig Campaign!

What is the bet limit? Is there a limit per day, or per minute?

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Withdrawals are currently unavailable due to maintenence or technical reasons.

ltcnim

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I understand that it was important to limit the bets. however, I think it would be better if the server would not just send a 429 if there are too many bets, but instead just delay the response for each bet a few miliseconds (so that you will have 1 request/s in the end).

this would basically reduce the number of requests to your backend (from users using the api) by 40-50% Wink

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Quote from: ltcnim on November 07, 2014, 06:23:57 AM

@Stunna: It looks like you limited the amount of bets per account. would it be possible to delay the request, instead of sending a 0 size reply (429)? this would benefit your backend also...

This was due to many people abusing the API and spamming bets. This was essentially slowing down rolls for everyone else.

Closetbaws is cool

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@Stunna: It looks like you limited the amount of bets per account. would it be possible to delay the request, instead of sending a 0 size reply (429)? this would benefit your backend also...

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Quote from: dooglus on November 07, 2014, 01:30:19 AM

Quote from: Monopoly on November 06, 2014, 08:11:05 PM

Quote from: dooglus on November 06, 2014, 02:48:50 AM

Did you photoshop that? Or create it by editing HTML?

The odds of losing 9 98% bets in a row are 1953 trillion to 1 against. ie. it didn't happen.

I mean you could start betting and it happens after ninth bet & even happens after Ninety-eighth bet again .
It could happen 100 times in two thousand of bets continuously and low possibility doesn't guarantee it couldn't ( or didn't ) happens .

Yes, each bet is random. We're talking about the odds of such a streak happening.

There's a very very small chance that the sequence in the fake screenshot actually happened, but it is so slight that I'm certain it didn't happen.

2000 trillion is such a big number. It's more than a million times the number of bets that have ever happened on PrimeDice. In other words if PrimeDice ran for a million years at its current level of activity, you would still probably not see such a streak.

Given the ease with which screenshots can be faked, and the near impossibility of such a streak really happening, I'm prepared to say it didn't happen.

It didn't happen from what I can see, notice the bet ID's are hidden and when we checked our DB we didn't find any streaks like that.

edit: confirmed fake from creator http://www.reddit.com/r/Primedice/comments/2lgzlc/thanks_stunna_and_edward/

Also occasional deposits are being a bit slow as of right now, they seem to be coming through within 1 confirmation in most cases, 2-3 in others.

Also a reminder: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/4-btc-in-prizes-primedicecom-primedice-video-competition-832301

3 days left to submit a video for the 4BTC competition

On a final note we fixed the intermittent lag issues, turns out an affiliate query was the culprit.

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Quote from: DarKSpectrE on November 07, 2014, 03:35:36 AM

Wtf. Primedice doesn't let me withdraw my winnings for some reasons Angry

EDIT: "Withdrawals are currently unavailable due to maintenence or technical reasons." - Really? Roll Eyes

yepp, just also tried to withdraw, same message. but it just arrived at my wallet and it's subtracted from my balance!

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Wtf. Primedice doesn't let me withdraw my winnings for some reasons Angry

EDIT: "Withdrawals are currently unavailable due to maintenence or technical reasons." - Really? Roll Eyes

EDIT_2: Got it.

ltcnim

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deposits not working? three confirmations and nothing shows up...

edit: credited..

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Quote from: MICRO on November 07, 2014, 02:52:17 AM

Quote from: dooglus on November 07, 2014, 01:30:19 AM

Quote from: Monopoly on November 06, 2014, 08:11:05 PM

Quote from: dooglus on November 06, 2014, 02:48:50 AM

Did you photoshop that? Or create it by editing HTML?

The odds of losing 9 98% bets in a row are 1953 trillion to 1 against. ie. it didn't happen.

I mean you could start betting and it happens after ninth bet & even happens after Ninety-eighth bet again .
It could happen 100 times in two thousand of bets continuously and low possibility doesn't guarantee it couldn't ( or didn't ) happens .

Yes, each bet is random. We're talking about the odds of such a streak happening.

There's a very very small chance that the sequence in the fake screenshot actually happened, but it is so slight that I'm certain it didn't happen.

2000 trillion is such a big number. It's more than a million times the number of bets that have ever happened on PrimeDice. In other words if PrimeDice ran for a million years at its current level of activity, you would still probably not see such a streak.

Given the ease with which screenshots can be faked, and the near impossibility of such a streak really happening, I'm prepared to say it didn't happen.

Math can give u some estimate but it doesn't mean much in real life. As proven by Hufflepuff . He wagered 60k btc and is in profit of 2000 when he should be in about -600 .

For that stuff i don't rely on math to much.

Exactly.. These are probabilities and that's where luck comes into play... On the long run you always tend to hit the probabilities though.

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Quote from: dooglus on November 07, 2014, 01:30:19 AM

Quote from: Monopoly on November 06, 2014, 08:11:05 PM

Quote from: dooglus on November 06, 2014, 02:48:50 AM

Did you photoshop that? Or create it by editing HTML?

The odds of losing 9 98% bets in a row are 1953 trillion to 1 against. ie. it didn't happen.

I mean you could start betting and it happens after ninth bet & even happens after Ninety-eighth bet again .
It could happen 100 times in two thousand of bets continuously and low possibility doesn't guarantee it couldn't ( or didn't ) happens .

Yes, each bet is random. We're talking about the odds of such a streak happening.

There's a very very small chance that the sequence in the fake screenshot actually happened, but it is so slight that I'm certain it didn't happen.

2000 trillion is such a big number. It's more than a million times the number of bets that have ever happened on PrimeDice. In other words if PrimeDice ran for a million years at its current level of activity, you would still probably not see such a streak.

Given the ease with which screenshots can be faked, and the near impossibility of such a streak really happening, I'm prepared to say it didn't happen.

Math can give u some estimate but it doesn't mean much in real life. As proven by Hufflepuff . He wagered 60k btc and is in profit of 2000 when he should be in about -600 .

For that stuff i don't rely on math to much.

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Quote from: yenzae0215 on November 07, 2014, 01:48:25 AM

Quote from: eden1 on November 06, 2014, 07:40:18 PM

how long till ref show up on dashboard?

it is instant

Some of mine are missing, yet I still get ref commission
Few little bugs there, eddy said he'll fix those soon

maybe some not listed are those who didnt set their passwords? Huh

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Quote from: eden1 on November 06, 2014, 07:40:18 PM

how long till ref show up on dashboard?

it is instant

dooglus

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Quote from: Monopoly on November 06, 2014, 08:11:05 PM

Quote from: dooglus on November 06, 2014, 02:48:50 AM

Did you photoshop that? Or create it by editing HTML?

The odds of losing 9 98% bets in a row are 1953 trillion to 1 against. ie. it didn't happen.

I mean you could start betting and it happens after ninth bet & even happens after Ninety-eighth bet again .
It could happen 100 times in two thousand of bets continuously and low possibility doesn't guarantee it couldn't ( or didn't ) happens .

Yes, each bet is random. We're talking about the odds of such a streak happening.

There's a very very small chance that the sequence in the fake screenshot actually happened, but it is so slight that I'm certain it didn't happen.

2000 trillion is such a big number. It's more than a million times the number of bets that have ever happened on PrimeDice. In other words if PrimeDice ran for a million years at its current level of activity, you would still probably not see such a streak.

Given the ease with which screenshots can be faked, and the near impossibility of such a streak really happening, I'm prepared to say it didn't happen.

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Quote from: dooglus on November 06, 2014, 07:15:40 PM

Quote from: Monopoly on November 06, 2014, 07:08:32 PM

Quote from: Josepht on November 06, 2014, 04:59:56 PM

Chance of losing one bet is 0.02
Chance of losing 5 bets in a row is 0.02^5=3.2*10^-9
It happens once every 1/(3.2*10^-9)=312.5 million times

It's wrong .
You always have 2% chance of losing in every bet and it's independent be in a row or not .
If you loss on your first bet , your second bet has got exactly same chance of losing .

No, he's right.

The chance of N independent events all happening is equal to the product of their individual probabilities.

It's precisely *because* the rolls are independent that he can raise 0.02 to the 5th power to get the probability of 5 98% rolls all losing.

I mean you could start betting and it happens after ninth bet & even happens after Ninety-eighth bet again .
It could happen 100 times in two thousand of bets continuously and low possibility doesn't guarantee it couldn't ( or didn't ) happens .

Quote from: dooglus on November 06, 2014, 02:48:50 AM

Did you photoshop that? Or create it by editing HTML?

The odds of losing 9 98% bets in a row are 1953 trillion to 1 against. ie. it didn't happen.

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how long till ref show up on dashboard?

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Quote from: dooglus on November 06, 2014, 07:15:40 PM

Quote from: Monopoly on November 06, 2014, 07:08:32 PM

Quote from: Josepht on November 06, 2014, 04:59:56 PM

Chance of losing one bet is 0.02
Chance of losing 5 bets in a row is 0.02^5=3.2*10^-9
It happens once every 1/(3.2*10^-9)=312.5 million times

It's wrong .
You always have 2% chance of losing in every bet and it's independent be in a row or not .
If you loss on your first bet , your second bet has got exactly same chance of losing .

No, he's right.

The chance of N independent events all happening is equal to the product of their individual probabilities.

It's precisely *because* the rolls are independent that he can raise 0.02 to the 5th power to get the probability of 5 98% rolls all losing.

Dooglus is correct.

Math. Not even once.

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