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Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot! - page 1128. (Read 1989835 times)

legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
Yeah, its rly hard to reward people for being on site , for chating and all that, and not make some other people abuse it. There is no perfect system sadly .

The trick is to reward the behaviours that you actually want.

You think you want people chatting, because that makes the site look busy and attracts players, but what you really want is for people to bet.

If you reward people for chatting, they'll find a way of automating it, so you achieve your intermediate goal: "get people chatting", but not the real goal: "get people betting".

You need the incentive to target "get people betting". So you base your level system on the amount they wagered, not the amount they chatted, and "pay" them when they reach various goals. Maybe they get a PD mug, T-shirt, read access to the VIP room, write access to the VIP room, etc. as they climb the levels. Maybe they get a slightly lower house edge depending on their level, whatever. You just need to make sure that you're rewarding the right behaviour.

Also, be precise in what you're targetting. You could have the goal of "get people betting" and so reward people based on the number of bets they make. But they you get an army of bots all betting 0 BTC over and over, and so a more precise goal would be "increase betting volume".

Very true, it's difficult to apply monetary incentives to anything without massive abuse popping up especially in an anonymous setting. Right now users can only level up by wagering and it wouldn't be worth anyone abusing purely for the faucet.

At the end of the day I think it's extremely difficult to provide any sort of suitable reward for veterans/highrollers in an automated manner so we'll have to get more creative.

legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
i am very upset at the changes in the faucet
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Yeah, its rly hard to reward people for being on site , for chating and all that, and not make some other people abuse it. There is no perfect system sadly .

The trick is to reward the behaviours that you actually want.

You think you want people chatting, because that makes the site look busy and attracts players, but what you really want is for people to bet.

If you reward people for chatting, they'll find a way of automating it, so you achieve your intermediate goal: "get people chatting", but not the real goal: "get people betting".

You need the incentive to target "get people betting". So you base your level system on the amount they wagered, not the amount they chatted, and "pay" them when they reach various goals. Maybe they get a PD mug, T-shirt, read access to the VIP room, write access to the VIP room, etc. as they climb the levels. Maybe they get a slightly lower house edge depending on their level, whatever. You just need to make sure that you're rewarding the right behaviour.

Also, be precise in what you're targetting. You could have the goal of "get people betting" and so reward people based on the number of bets they make. But they you get an army of bots all betting 0 BTC over and over, and so a more precise goal would be "increase betting volume".

Hehe... How do u find time to post , posts like this Cheesy . Just amazing Smiley.

Btw , i did made pd teacups but will just give them away to people here locally,  coz i don't rly want to ask people for theirs home addresses just go give them a teacup Cheesy .
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Yeah, its rly hard to reward people for being on site , for chating and all that, and not make some other people abuse it. There is no perfect system sadly .

The trick is to reward the behaviours that you actually want.

You think you want people chatting, because that makes the site look busy and attracts players, but what you really want is for people to bet.

If you reward people for chatting, they'll find a way of automating it, so you achieve your intermediate goal: "get people chatting", but not the real goal: "get people betting".

You need the incentive to target "get people betting". So you base your level system on the amount they wagered, not the amount they chatted, and "pay" them when they reach various goals. Maybe they get a PD mug, T-shirt, read access to the VIP room, write access to the VIP room, etc. as they climb the levels. Maybe they get a slightly lower house edge depending on their level, whatever. You just need to make sure that you're rewarding the right behaviour.

Also, be precise in what you're targetting. You could have the goal of "get people betting" and so reward people based on the number of bets they make. But they you get an army of bots all betting 0 BTC over and over, and so a more precise goal would be "increase betting volume".



imagine chatting is freedom of speech > Wink
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Yeah, its rly hard to reward people for being on site , for chating and all that, and not make some other people abuse it. There is no perfect system sadly .

The trick is to reward the behaviours that you actually want.

You think you want people chatting, because that makes the site look busy and attracts players, but what you really want is for people to bet.

If you reward people for chatting, they'll find a way of automating it, so you achieve your intermediate goal: "get people chatting", but not the real goal: "get people betting".

You need the incentive to target "get people betting". So you base your level system on the amount they wagered, not the amount they chatted, and "pay" them when they reach various goals. Maybe they get a PD mug, T-shirt, read access to the VIP room, write access to the VIP room, etc. as they climb the levels. Maybe they get a slightly lower house edge depending on their level, whatever. You just need to make sure that you're rewarding the right behaviour.

Also, be precise in what you're targetting. You could have the goal of "get people betting" and so reward people based on the number of bets they make. But they you get an army of bots all betting 0 BTC over and over, and so a more precise goal would be "increase betting volume".
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Chat will no longer provide experience, any prior messages will be rolled back as well in terms of experience.

Spammers have flooded the website attempting to game the level system and this in effect has been effecting sockets/rest of the chats (VIP/Main) not just PVP.

This is a great example of how incentives work. If you pay people according to how much they chat, they will chat more. Not better, just more.

It's tricky to work out what incentives to offer, but you can be sure that people will work out what works best for them and act accordingly.

See also: the faucet.

Edit: also, see how people post content-free one-liners on the forum just to get their post count up so they can earn more from signature campaigns... that's another example of an incentive having undesirable consequences.

Yeah, its rly hard to reward people for being on site , for chating and all that, and not make some other people abuse it. There is no perfect system sadly .
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Chat will no longer provide experience, any prior messages will be rolled back as well in terms of experience.

Spammers have flooded the website attempting to game the level system and this in effect has been effecting sockets/rest of the chats (VIP/Main) not just PVP.

This is a great example of how incentives work. If you pay people according to how much they chat, they will chat more. Not better, just more.

It's tricky to work out what incentives to offer, but you can be sure that people will work out what works best for them and act accordingly.

See also: the faucet.

Edit: also, see how people post content-free one-liners on the forum just to get their post count up so they can earn more from signature campaigns... that's another example of an incentive having undesirable consequences.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
:)
This is really lame, you ruined a perfectly good thing because a couple people decided to be douche's.

I don't see why you cant just make a bot to fix the spammers...because i lost half my faucet.
full member
Activity: 172
Merit: 100
why did my faucet get cut?
is it due to the chat exp thing or what i remained the same level

Yeah, it's the retroactive chat EXP removal. (The level didn't seem to suffer the same drop, though it's been kinda meaningless for a while now.)
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
why did my faucet get cut?
is it due to the chat exp thing or what i remained the same level
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Faucet was slashed again. Just feel like it's a big "FUCK YOU".

Most of the spammers will come even if it's a 1k faucet. So goodluck, I won't be around to see PD go to waste though :p

No longer playing here.

Faucet is not slashed. Just all faucet earned with chating is no longer counted towards faucet amount.
Its done that way so it doesn't encourage chating (spaming) anymore.


all chatting is considered spamming now? lmfao  Cheesy
Lol they just removed chat experience from faucet, nothing else.
Everyone is like raising this too much.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Faucet was slashed again. Just feel like it's a big "FUCK YOU".

Most of the spammers will come even if it's a 1k faucet. So goodluck, I won't be around to see PD go to waste though :p

No longer playing here.

Faucet is not slashed. Just all faucet earned with chating is no longer counted towards faucet amount.
Its done that way so it doesn't encourage chating (spaming) anymore.


all chatting is considered spamming now? lmfao  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Faucet was slashed again. Just feel like it's a big "FUCK YOU".

Most of the spammers will come even if it's a 1k faucet. So goodluck, I won't be around to see PD go to waste though :p

No longer playing here.

Faucet is not slashed. Just all faucet earned with chating is no longer counted towards faucet amount.
Its done that way so it doesn't encourage chating (spaming) anymore.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
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Faucet was slashed again. Just feel like it's a big "FUCK YOU".

Most of the spammers will come even if it's a 1k faucet. So goodluck, I won't be around to see PD go to waste though :p

No longer playing here.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Hello

Is it possible yet to disable the 2FA? I switched phones and I need to disable it?

Thanks

U need to email [email protected] for that .
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
Hello

Is it possible yet to disable the 2FA? I switched phones and I need to disable it?

Thanks
hui
hero member
Activity: 516
Merit: 502
Chat will no longer provide experience, any prior messages will be rolled back as well in terms of experience.

great news! the only thing left that encourages spamming now is that rainbot thing. should be a lot better now.

rainbot tries its best to not reward any spammers and beggers. in fact the begging problem was slightly reduced by encouraging this rule as its blacklist statistics prove.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Chat will no longer provide experience, any prior messages will be rolled back as well in terms of experience.
I respect that, but you need to update the visual level... It still says I am levlel 31. And PLEASE increase the amount of experience gained for betting, I wont be able to gain any levels with my bankroll. :/
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Chat will no longer provide experience, any prior messages will be rolled back as well in terms of experience.

great news! the only thing left that encourages spamming now is that rainbot thing. should be a lot better now.
Yup, But many users with more than 20 levels are sad to loose half of their faucet.

Of course not. Anyone with level 20 or higher doesn't care about the amount of the faucet.
haha lol, their first impression was like :-
"WTF?? Faucet is reduced? SHIT REALLY?"...

member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
Chat will no longer provide experience, any prior messages will be rolled back as well in terms of experience.

great news! the only thing left that encourages spamming now is that rainbot thing. should be a lot better now.
Yup, But many users with more than 20 levels are sad to loose half of their faucet.

Of course not. Anyone with level 20 or higher doesn't care about the amount of the faucet.

How much bitcoins needed to be wagered to reach level 20?
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