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Quote from: dooglus on September 24, 2014, 05:43:25 PM

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 05:34:18 PM

Lol i just made .15 pretty quicklyo... think i figured out what i was doing wrong... I just needed to vent, just hoping i can recoup and start profitting... I lost a lot off cloak coins so I'm prob just emotional cause of that... let you know if i ever break even :/

Long losing streaks do happen if you play long enough.

I had one just this morning (on a different site) that cost me around 30 BTC:

Quote from: dooglus on September 24, 2014, 01:59:37 PM

Guessing the max bet was 6.4? Shouldn't have kept betting the max. You can't go anywhere with it if you lose.

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Quote from: dooglus on September 24, 2014, 05:40:54 PM

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 03:38:11 PM

I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.

I don't work and I am not affiliated with primedice in any way. I used to run their biggest competitor site in fact. I have made over 15 BTC playing on PrimeDice. Here are my stats:

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 05:21:51 AM

The only way you can profit here is if you waste your entire life on this stupid shit. Anytime you go for big scores you usually get fucked, even if the odds are greatly in your favor.

I've only spent a few hours on the site, and only made 234 bets. I made large bets and did well on them. The odds are never in your favour - there is always a 1% edge in the house's favour.

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 05:26:24 AM

I fucking swear I did great on this site, I should have cashed out... they track my IP once I do really well, and end up stealing everything from me with bogus rolls.

You sound like a paranoid idiot. Why would they need to track your IP when you're signed in to your account? And how could they "steal" from you when all the rolls are provably fair? Simply verify that you got the rolls you were meant to get.

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 06:03:49 AM

Show me one person who has actually won money from PD. The site would not exist if they weren't scamming all of you suckers.

I actually won 15 BTC from PD. The site exists because in the long run the 1% house edge means that the site wins more than it loses.

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 06:05:34 AM

I'm convinced anybody over 5+ btc profit there is affiliated with the site in some way. Who the fuck would run a legit gambling website? Even with house edge, the shit is such a fucking scam.

You're wrong about that. I have no affiliation with the site and have a 15 BTC profit. I have run a legit gambling website in the past. It had a 1% house edge, took bets totalling over 5 million BTC and profited only 19000 BTC. You're making a fool of yourself. I would suggest you calm down and then try to understand how the site works. They can prove to you that you weren't cheated. Maybe ask a smarter friend to take a look at it with you.

Nice post dooglus and congrats on being +15BTC on PD, you must miss running JD

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Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 05:34:18 PM

Lol i just made .15 pretty quicklyo... think i figured out what i was doing wrong... I just needed to vent, just hoping i can recoup and start profitting... I lost a lot off cloak coins so I'm prob just emotional cause of that... let you know if i ever break even :/

Long losing streaks do happen if you play long enough.

I had one just this morning (on a different site) that cost me around 30 BTC:

Quote from: dooglus on September 24, 2014, 01:59:37 PM

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Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 03:38:11 PM

I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.

I don't work and I am not affiliated with primedice in any way. I used to run their biggest competitor site in fact. I have made over 15 BTC playing on PrimeDice. Here are my stats:

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 05:21:51 AM

The only way you can profit here is if you waste your entire life on this stupid shit. Anytime you go for big scores you usually get fucked, even if the odds are greatly in your favor.

I've only spent a few hours on the site, and only made 234 bets. I made large bets and did well on them. The odds are never in your favour - there is always a 1% edge in the house's favour.

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 05:26:24 AM

I fucking swear I did great on this site, I should have cashed out... they track my IP once I do really well, and end up stealing everything from me with bogus rolls.

You sound like a paranoid idiot. Why would they need to track your IP when you're signed in to your account? And how could they "steal" from you when all the rolls are provably fair? Simply verify that you got the rolls you were meant to get.

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 06:03:49 AM

Show me one person who has actually won money from PD. The site would not exist if they weren't scamming all of you suckers.

I actually won 15 BTC from PD. The site exists because in the long run the 1% house edge means that the site wins more than it loses.

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 06:05:34 AM

I'm convinced anybody over 5+ btc profit there is affiliated with the site in some way. Who the fuck would run a legit gambling website? Even with house edge, the shit is such a fucking scam.

You're wrong about that. I have no affiliation with the site and have a 15 BTC profit. I have run a legit gambling website in the past. It had a 1% house edge, took bets totalling over 5 million BTC and profited only 19000 BTC. You're making a fool of yourself. I would suggest you calm down and then try to understand how the site works. They can prove to you that you weren't cheated. Maybe ask a smarter friend to take a look at it with you.

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Lol i just made .15 pretty quicklyo... think i figured out what i was doing wrong... I just needed to vent, just hoping i can recoup and start profitting... I lost a lot off cloak coins so I'm prob just emotional cause of that... let you know if i ever break even :/

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Quote from: BBmmBB on September 24, 2014, 04:53:15 PM

Quote from: B4RF on September 24, 2014, 04:43:12 PM

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 04:18:29 PM

That's what really fucked me tho, would get consistent hi and los within 5-6 bets, the after about 3k bets, would get like 13 streak hi, 10-20 rolls later get a 13 streak lo, really throws off my game. Then I start switching more and losing on every switch just like WTF... gets frustrating, but having a different set of rolls would help I think if I'm failing to see the patterns, or they are more complex.

A streak of 13 losses is very common on a 2*payout.

Take a coin and flip it about 10k times, the possibility of you flipping head (or tail) 13 times (or even more often) in row while doing this is very high.

you have honestly flipped a coin ten thousand times? Roll Eyes

suuuure

No I haven't Grin

But this shows that the possibility is quite high even on a normal event like a coinflip if you do it 10k times.
And 10k bets on primedice is almost nothing for most of the users.

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Quote from: B4RF on September 24, 2014, 04:43:12 PM

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 04:18:29 PM

That's what really fucked me tho, would get consistent hi and los within 5-6 bets, the after about 3k bets, would get like 13 streak hi, 10-20 rolls later get a 13 streak lo, really throws off my game. Then I start switching more and losing on every switch just like WTF... gets frustrating, but having a different set of rolls would help I think if I'm failing to see the patterns, or they are more complex.

A streak of 13 losses is very common on a 2*payout.

Take a coin and flip it about 10k times, the possibility of you flipping head (or tail) 13 times (or even more often) in row while doing this is very high.

you have honestly flipped a coin ten thousand times? Roll Eyes

suuuure

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Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 04:18:29 PM

That's what really fucked me tho, would get consistent hi and los within 5-6 bets, the after about 3k bets, would get like 13 streak hi, 10-20 rolls later get a 13 streak lo, really throws off my game. Then I start switching more and losing on every switch just like WTF... gets frustrating, but having a different set of rolls would help I think if I'm failing to see the patterns, or they are more complex.

A streak of 13 losses is very common on a 2*payout.

Take a coin and flip it about 10k times, the possibility of you flipping head (or tail) 13 times (or even more often) in row while doing this is very high.

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Quote from: BBmmBB on September 24, 2014, 04:20:29 PM

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Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 04:02:27 PM

Still doesn't make sense how I lost... seems fishy, but is it best to change seed every 50-100 bets or so?

The way provably fair works is that setting your client seed is what determines every bet you will make with that seed, because each roll is server seed + client seed + nonce (the nonce is adding a sequential numbers to the end). Adding a number to the client seed makes the roll change randomly. From when you first set your client seed, the server can determine what your next 1 billion rolls would be if they wanted to. They cannot however, change or manipulate these rolls.

If you feel you are unlucky, changing the client seed will change the outcome of your future rolls, so some people choose to do that because it makes them feel better, but statistically it provides no advantage. It just gives you a different set of future rolls.

ok so if you were to change your seed for EVERY ROLL...what in the code ensures the outcome of the rolls will be as advertised percent? hmmm =O

The number you get for each roll is mashing up the server seed, and client seed with the nonce at the end, to get a number. I believe they have a verification page in their FAQ that explains this. But when you make the rolls, you do not know your server seed. After changing your client seed, you can see your past server seed and client seed with the nonce of the bet, and mash it together for each rolls and see that they add up to the number you were given.

Quote from: PrimedicePlayersUnion on September 24, 2014, 04:21:18 PM

How do i change the seed for the site???
and is it possible to see future rolls?

The website can see future rolls because they have the server seed and your client seed. They cannot change them however because those are locked in and the same until YOU change them. They could for instance see that you were about to win 10 times in a row but there is nothing they could do about it.

Because you don't know your server seed until after you choose to change it, you cannot do the calculations beforehand and see your rolls.

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How do i change the seed for the site???
and is it possible to see future rolls?

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Quote from: Daggett993 on September 24, 2014, 04:11:11 PM

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 04:02:27 PM

Still doesn't make sense how I lost... seems fishy, but is it best to change seed every 50-100 bets or so?

The way provably fair works is that setting your client seed is what determines every bet you will make with that seed, because each roll is server seed + client seed + nonce (the nonce is adding a sequential numbers to the end). Adding a number to the client seed makes the roll change randomly. From when you first set your client seed, the server can determine what your next 1 billion rolls would be if they wanted to. They cannot however, change or manipulate these rolls.

If you feel you are unlucky, changing the client seed will change the outcome of your future rolls, so some people choose to do that because it makes them feel better, but statistically it provides no advantage. It just gives you a different set of future rolls.

ok so if you were to change your seed for EVERY ROLL...what in the code ensures the outcome of the rolls will be as advertised percent? hmmm =O

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That's what really fucked me tho, would get consistent hi and los within 5-6 bets, the after about 3k bets, would get like 13 streak hi, 10-20 rolls later get a 13 streak lo, really throws off my game. Then I start switching more and losing on every switch just like WTF... gets frustrating, but having a different set of rolls would help I think if I'm failing to see the patterns, or they are more complex.

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Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 04:02:27 PM

Still doesn't make sense how I lost... seems fishy, but is it best to change seed every 50-100 bets or so?

The way provably fair works is that setting your client seed is what determines every bet you will make with that seed, because each roll is server seed + client seed + nonce (the nonce is adding a sequential numbers to the end). Adding a number to the client seed makes the roll change randomly. From when you first set your client seed, the server can determine what your next 1 billion rolls would be if they wanted to. They cannot however, change or manipulate these rolls.

If you feel you are unlucky, changing the client seed will change the outcome of your future rolls, so some people choose to do that because it makes them feel better, but statistically it provides no advantage. It just gives you a different set of future rolls.

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Still doesn't make sense how I lost... seems fishy, but is it best to change seed every 50-100 bets or so?

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Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 03:50:52 PM

Quote from: Daggett993 on September 24, 2014, 03:45:45 PM

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 03:38:11 PM

I agree ignore is there for a reason, if somebody wants to talk shit, why shouldn't they have the right to do so? If anyone actually gets offended over the computer that is their problem.

As for losing long term, I don't see how it is possible to win for 12 hours straight, and then lose constantly for 30 minutes with 1% edge. Maybe I got greedy, but the likeliness of that occurring as many time as it has seems fishy as hell. It always seems to be around the same profit margins, and switching up the strategy never helps.

Seems like the only ppl who profit here are ones who don't make a significant amount, or people who have asstons of btc to recoup losses from. I don't see how I can get .2 like nothing, takes me a decent amount of time, and then lose it in the blink of an eye, maybe I bid too high or greed, but it's fucking annoying as hell. Seems like it always freezes up and lags before a big roll which comes out a loss afterwards.

I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.

Have you found a flaw in the provably fair system or are you trying defame sites because you are sad you lost? The site is provably fair and I can't believe people who play on these sites still don't understand what that means.

Ya it's a cheap way of saying you will get fucked in the ass in the long run.

Of course though. The house has an edge of .9% or whatever it is. The only game they offer where you won't lose in the long run in PVP with no edge, so there is an equal expected value of you earning or losing coins.

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Quote from: Daggett993 on September 24, 2014, 03:45:45 PM

Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 03:38:11 PM

I agree ignore is there for a reason, if somebody wants to talk shit, why shouldn't they have the right to do so? If anyone actually gets offended over the computer that is their problem.

As for losing long term, I don't see how it is possible to win for 12 hours straight, and then lose constantly for 30 minutes with 1% edge. Maybe I got greedy, but the likeliness of that occurring as many time as it has seems fishy as hell. It always seems to be around the same profit margins, and switching up the strategy never helps.

Seems like the only ppl who profit here are ones who don't make a significant amount, or people who have asstons of btc to recoup losses from. I don't see how I can get .2 like nothing, takes me a decent amount of time, and then lose it in the blink of an eye, maybe I bid too high or greed, but it's fucking annoying as hell. Seems like it always freezes up and lags before a big roll which comes out a loss afterwards.

I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.

Have you found a flaw in the provably fair system or are you trying defame sites because you are sad you lost? The site is provably fair and I can't believe people who play on these sites still don't understand what that means.

Ya it's a cheap way of saying you will get fucked in the ass in the long run.

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Quote from: nyktalgia on September 24, 2014, 03:38:11 PM

I agree ignore is there for a reason, if somebody wants to talk shit, why shouldn't they have the right to do so? If anyone actually gets offended over the computer that is their problem.

As for losing long term, I don't see how it is possible to win for 12 hours straight, and then lose constantly for 30 minutes with 1% edge. Maybe I got greedy, but the likeliness of that occurring as many time as it has seems fishy as hell. It always seems to be around the same profit margins, and switching up the strategy never helps.

Seems like the only ppl who profit here are ones who don't make a significant amount, or people who have asstons of btc to recoup losses from. I don't see how I can get .2 like nothing, takes me a decent amount of time, and then lose it in the blink of an eye, maybe I bid too high or greed, but it's fucking annoying as hell. Seems like it always freezes up and lags before a big roll which comes out a loss afterwards.

I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.

Have you found a flaw in the provably fair system or are you trying defame sites because you are sad you lost? The site is provably fair and I can't believe people who play on these sites still don't understand what that means.

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Quote from: Biohazard55 on September 24, 2014, 03:30:11 PM

I still dont like you stunna, You promised me 0.01 btc for the delay of the launch and then changed the rules...you still haven't answered my message, micro said he will send it to me because it's not fair from you. But he also never replied to my messages....

But the last two days I deposited a small amount of bitcoins and made 0.7 btc profit, i keep the profit but I will never play again on your site because I know I will then lose it all

How much did you start with and what method did you use? I just want to break even now as well, and gtfo. It's going to take me some time tho because anytime you try to bet higher even if you are on a winning streak, it will inevitably fuck you in the ass.

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