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sr. member
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Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced.

I can't believe all these people complaining that the faucet that gives them free money every minute is going to be giving them less free money in the future.

Nobody ever said the faucet would run forever. What makes you all feel so entitled to free money?


Actually yeah, a high faucet was promised for PD3.
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Exactly . And faucet was supposed to be used to test out the site.

And for new people in bitcoin so they can see how it works , maybe even get some small cashout , and get into it a bit.

And not to be used all day each day .

And faucet will still be there , just won't be this high. 100 satoshi is more than enough to test the site, 1000 sat is more than enough to make couple of cashouts per day. And that should be enough.

Not sure I understand your point, MICRO.

My impression is that primedice3 is no longer just a high-low dice game.
It is a new type of game, that requires a strategy.
The rules of the game were set, and and the players decided their strategy.
It may be that the strategy of some players is to risk losing some money
at the beginning expecting to recover later.
Changing the rules in the middle of the game does not seem right to me.

Having said that, I understand it is possible that the rules may need to change
if the game is not sustainable. But then should't just the site issue an apology,
instead of accusing the players for doing what the rules allowed them to do?

I really do not get your point MICRO.
legendary
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Zoltan - PD Moderator
I agree that it is free money, i wouldnt feel this way if pd3 wouldnt have been advertised with the whole level system and increasing faucet. I liked PD2 and the 1k sat faucet i was happy with it, but then it offered a more bigger opportunity, and that will be taken away. Thats why most of us feel a bit ripped... But whatever, at least it was and will be a few fun week... Smiley Maybe you should increase the minimum payout to 100k or even more, just for testing to see what that does...
hero member
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I've also made a lot of deposits to raise my level by playing. Spent a lot of time lately, to gain level - this is a terrible PR move, and a fuck you to us users who waited over 9 months since it first was announced to be released "next month"...
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The problem IMO is that many people thought the faucet would be here forever so they betted more to have a higher level.
In their point of view it was like an investment. Lower/delete the faucet would lower their ROI...


YES, it's almost like a second chance investment kind of thing that drew me to PD3, if that goes away so do I.
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Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced.

I can't believe all these people complaining that the faucet that gives them free money every minute is going to be giving them less free money in the future.

Nobody ever said the faucet would run forever. What makes you all feel so entitled to free money?

Exactly . And faucet was supposed to be used to test out the site.

And for new people in bitcoin so they can see how it works , maybe even get some small cashout , and get into it a bit.

And not to be used all day each day .

And faucet will still be there , just won't be this high. 100 satoshi is more than enough to test the site, 1000 sat is more than enough to make couple of cashouts per day. And that should be enough.


You're joking right?

A high faucet that we could level up is what was advertised for PD3 and the reasons why a lot of users have spent so much time on it recently.

If it goes down to that much I'd never play here again I'm sorry, not just because the high faucet would be gone but because it's wrong to go back on stuff like this.


I don't know about other people, but the little bitcoin that I had, I deposited here and played with in the hopes of
1. Winning
2. Building Up the faucet.
But #2 right there is a VERY close first.
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The problem IMO is that many people thought the faucet would be here forever so they betted more to have a higher level.
In their point of view it was like an investment. Lower/delete the faucet would lower their ROI...
hero member
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As Primedice3 opening days are coming to a close the faucet is soon going to be decreased a bit. It is currently giving out over 3 BTC a day which is a lot higher than we expected. This is mainly due to abuse.
And how much is a bit? I wont play more if it's like 50%, and many other will quit too (use both faucet and deposits). 3 BTC, but how much do you make a typical day? Take the akcoinminer user for instance, and the other people with too much btc at their hands..
legendary
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Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced.

I can't believe all these people complaining that the faucet that gives them free money every minute is going to be giving them less free money in the future.

Nobody ever said the faucet would run forever. What makes you all feel so entitled to free money?

Exactly . And faucet was supposed to be used to test out the site.

And for new people in bitcoin so they can see how it works , maybe even get some small cashout , and get into it a bit.

And not to be used all day each day .

And faucet will still be there , just won't be this high. 100 satoshi is more than enough to test the site, 1000 sat is more than enough to make couple of cashouts per day. And that should be enough.
legendary
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Are you saying simply that over 3 btc a day is being claimed from the faucet? Or are you actually paying out (people withdrawing) over 3 btc a day that can be traced back to an initial faucet claim?

Two quite different things. The former doesn't say much as most people claim faucet, gamble it, lose it and repeat - you are not out of pocket at all.

In theory there shouldn't be a huge difference between the two numbers. The house edge is pretty small.

If you give out 1000 satoshis, but don't let people withdraw until they have 100k satoshis, you're going to see about 99 out of ever 100 gifts be lost, but 1 in 100 will turn into 100k and get withdrawn.

As we've seen on the various sites that make their actual profit vs. turnover public, the actual profit made by dice sites is often very different than the expected profit, but as a first approximation you can expect to lose roughly the same amount that you give out in the long run.

Agreed. But theory is just that...theory.
Reality seems to find a way to never quite match what's expected lol.

The differing psychology in play and utility value we have with the faucet amount is what throws normal theory out the door here imo. As evidenced by normal house edge of ~1% v faucet edge of ~4%.

I'm no statistician, but isnt that a massive difference?
The amount is so low, endless and free that no one hesitates to lose it almost immediately. I truly believe that the actual payout from the faucet is alot less than the expected payout. And all faucet claims are returned to the house rather quickly.

I also think the faucet played a part in PDs success, and should be considered an asset to the company rather than a simple liability.  Just my opinions though. Im not privy to any hard data.

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"Feed the needy, not the greedy"

On a real note: Am I the only not able to connect?
legendary
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Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced.

I can't believe all these people complaining that the faucet that gives them free money every minute is going to be giving them less free money in the future.

Nobody ever said the faucet would run forever. What makes you all feel so entitled to free money?
legendary
Activity: 926
Merit: 1000
Zoltan - PD Moderator
As Primedice3 opening days are coming to a close the faucet is soon going to be decreased a bit. It is currently giving out over 3 BTC a day which is a lot higher than we expected. This is mainly due to abuse.

Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced. Many people spend 8-10-12 or more hours there just to increase their faucet. Now you will rip them from that. At least you should have announced at the first day that there is a possibility that the whole system(faucet) can eventually be changed. Im devastated of these news. Have deposited all my btc, and lost, now im trying everything to get an even higher faucet and it will be decreased. It will be a big disappointment, but i guess gambling sites are always for the big whales and not for user who dont have btc just enthusiasm and perseverance (no, im not talking about abuse, i never abused it...). I'm really sad now, i think i spent 14-15 hours a day at PD in the last two weeks but i feel like it was for nothing, im in a negative balance and the possibility to get it back will be taken away or at least be much harder... I hope im not offensive, but i had to say it.
legendary
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As Primedice3 opening days are coming to a close the faucet is soon going to be decreased a bit. It is currently giving out over 3 BTC a day which is a lot higher than we expected. This is mainly due to abuse.

Stunna, I consider you maybe top 10 def top 20 of members I would trust on this forum - but your statement above could be construed as misleading.

Are you saying simply that over 3 btc a day is being claimed from the faucet? Or are you actually paying out (people withdrawing) over 3 btc a day that can be traced back to an initial faucet claim?

Two quite different things. The former doesn't say much as most people claim faucet, gamble it, lose it and repeat - you are not out of pocket at all.

The later says a lot, and I would be surprised you kept it for so long if this was the case. Marketing kudos to you.

Cheers mate

Claimed. We have an average roll over of about 4x the faucet amount before it is lost. Meaning when we give away money from the faucet the return to house is only 4%.

We like to say what is claimed from the faucet is basically withdrawn, minus 3 - 5% depending on variance.

Thanks for the reply. And for always being upfront and transparent Smiley
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Its just to support developer or u can pay for that feature where u can leave some msg to some user and that msg gets delivered to him when he gets online. Which i think its rly cool feature , and it costs 0.0004btc per msg, and its taken from amount u donated to chatbot.

What about the people that can't chat?  I am one of those people! 

Usually I have to refresh/restart my browser about 30-40 times an hour to see chat, but lately, I cannot chat, or see new messages until I refresh, then I see old messages.

This happens to me yesterday . Send msg and email to support seems nobody bother abt this Just need advise ( im on Version 37.0.2062.94 m ).  . And currently is the site down again ?
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As Primedice3 opening days are coming to a close the faucet is soon going to be decreased a bit. It is currently giving out over 3 BTC a day which is a lot higher than we expected. This is mainly due to abuse.

This is really sad.  So sorry you are paying 3 BTC a day out via the faucet.  That is clearly unsustainable.  It seems you had a similar problem on PD2 and solved it with the whitelist.  Maybe something similar would help here?

I also agree with GaleMartins, it is easy to abuse your current arrangement.  (I don't abuse it but I can understand the temptation.)  You can either have free in game transfers (tips) or faucet.  With both PD3 is open to abuse no matter what you set the faucet level at as using the methods GM described you can still abuse it - it just becomes a matter of time.  

I strongly agree with the idea that you should set clear expectations for how you'd like to see the faucet used in the FAQ or somewhere.  That would make it easy for the community of players to call people out whom they think are abusing the faucet.  Is it okay for me to chat and play the faucet?  (I hope this is yes.)  Is it okay for me to set up a "bank" user account and send my faucet winnings to it for eventual withdrawal?  (This seems like a no to me.)

I also think the faucet serves a useful marketing purpose as people play it while they hang out and chat.  Since that is what I often do, I wish there was a way to preserve that while still ending the abuse.

Maybe there is a solution in the whole deposit, withdrawal limit, chat activity (coupled with solid moderation), no proxies, and IP limits or something like that.  Of course, I guess lowering the faucet is a lot easier....

Thanks for a great gambling site!

I agree a lot with him^

If faucet goes down a lot I probably won't play anymore, 80% of the time I'm there it's because I've built my faucet up enough to have a chance at winning a little bit but...
That's lame that it's been 3 btc/ day on faucet I would expect maybe one btc a day. If you have to change it otherwise you're losing money, then you have to change it that's understandable.

But at the same time...

It's kinda like... there's not really any possible way to abuse faucet. You have it set to one minute /redeem and you built the site and achievements to allow the faucet to go up to 10K, (this was very appealing to me and I've been spending a lot of time and what BTC I have here to try and build it up to that) and you changed the minimum tip to .0005 which is the same as withdrawing. So when people are tipping .0005 to their other accounts (which I have yet to seen a mod or admin state you can not do this) its practically the same as cashing out, except you save yourself the transaction fee (which needs to be paid when transacting no matter what Tongue).

TL;DR: The way you have it set up and rules, there's no such thing as faucet abuse so it does kinda bother me that you say that people are abusing it, and that's why you're lowering it....

legendary
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As Primedice3 opening days are coming to a close the faucet is soon going to be decreased a bit. It is currently giving out over 3 BTC a day which is a lot higher than we expected. This is mainly due to abuse.

This is really sad.  So sorry you are paying 3 BTC a day out via the faucet.  That is clearly unsustainable.  It seems you had a similar problem on PD2 and solved it with the whitelist.  Maybe something similar would help here?

I also agree with GaleMartins, it is easy to abuse your current arrangement.  (I don't abuse it but I can understand the temptation.)  You can either have free in game transfers (tips) or faucet.  With both PD3 is open to abuse no matter what you set the faucet level at as using the methods GM described you can still abuse it - it just becomes a matter of time. 

I strongly agree with the idea that you should set clear expectations for how you'd like to see the faucet used in the FAQ or somewhere.  That would make it easy for the community of players to call people out whom they think are abusing the faucet.  Is it okay for me to chat and play the faucet?  (I hope this is yes.)  Is it okay for me to set up a "bank" user account and send my faucet winnings to it for eventual withdrawal?  (This seems like a no to me.)

I also think the faucet serves a useful marketing purpose as people play it while they hang out and chat.  Since that is what I often do, I wish there was a way to preserve that while still ending the abuse.

Maybe there is a solution in the whole deposit, withdrawal limit, chat activity (coupled with solid moderation), no proxies, and IP limits or something like that.  Of course, I guess lowering the faucet is a lot easier....

Thanks for a great gambling site!
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It's impossible to play. You have to do something about this lag. Seriously (with all different browsers...)
NEEDS REBOOTING!
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It's impossible to play. You have to do something about this lag. Seriously (with all different browsers...)
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BTW found a bug... Click to invert doesn't work as it's supposed to. The odds stay the same as if you hadn't inverted them.

What invert button are you clicking on I don't even see one??
He means to switch HI to LOW..

It has a little trigger on it ... You have to click it a couple times, or you have to click directly in the center of it.
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