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I'm enjoying the PD3 tipping feature thus far... I love sharing my winnings with people who needs a little booster  Wink

Lucky streak of the day:

legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
I believe the first time I had heard of the rounding issue was after the launch of PD3 and one of our developers immediately said that was incorrect. However, I will be having a conversation with our developers and bring up the points you responded with as they do seem valid.

It must be hard having to trust developers, and not really knowing what's right and what isn't. I was never able to delegate anything at JD, because I don't really trust anyone but myself to get things right. I'm not sure if that's a strength or a weakness. Smiley

While PD2 was running I was always told/under the impression that PD2 was running at a very very slight disadvantage (1/1M bets). Obviously our intention wasn't to secretly increase our house edge a rather insignificant amount

I think the problem stems from trying to get the rolls to go from 0.00 to 100.00 - it's kind of unnatural to have 10001 different possible outcomes. The new scheme in PD3 is much better, with 10000 possible outcomes (0.00 through 99.99), because they are all equally likely.

In PD2 all the outcomes 0.01 through 99.99 came up one time in 10000, but the highest and the lowest came up one time in 20000 each, and that's where the accidental extra 0.005% house edge came from.

Maybe a simpler example would help. Suppose you want to pick a random number from 0 to 10. You have two 10-sided dice. You can't just roll one of them, because that only picks 10 different numbers, and you need 11. So you roll both of them, giving a number 00 through 99. Then you divide by 10, and round to the nearest whole number.

05 to 14 gives 1 (10% chance)
15 to 24 gives 2 (10% chance)
etc.

but only 00 to 04 gives 0 (5% chance)
and only 95 to 99 gives 10 (5% chance)

So if someone bets the 50% bet, for 1.98x payout: "less than 5"... they win if they roll 00 through 44, and only have a 45% chance of winning, even though half the numbers (0 through 4) are winning numbers for them. So you've advertised a 50% bet but it's really just a 45% bet. It's 5% worse than advertised.

In PD2's case, you're not rolling 10 different numbers, but 10 thousand different numbers, so the error is a thousand times smaller. Instead of a 5% error in house edge, it's only a 0.005% error.

It sounds like an insignificant amount, but 0.005% of 400k BTC (the wagered amount) is 20 BTC. Which is still insignificant compared to turnover, but would probably be significant when shared between the people who lost when they should have won.

Also the PD3 algorithm was fixed right after you noted it to us, we simply forgot to update the verification page.

Fair enough.

It probably seems like I'm shrugging off a lot of your feedback or ignoring it but I've been incredibly busy and haven't gotten the chance to properly respond/look into everything you've suggested. I made sure to get all the feedback I could from you prior to launch and we discussed this feedback heavily with our team. Some of the changes are yet to come after we sort out priorities. While it probably hasn't seemed like it this past week, I've always valued your opinion and input.

I get it. It's obvious you're swamped with problems at the moment. Good luck getting it all sorted out!
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Cool nahtnam ! Smiley U can always pm me to see ur work in progress Wink .
I liked primedice.info .

primedice.info was a flop. No one used it, and it served no purpose. I have a much better idea that people can actually use! Smiley

What was primedice.info? I missed it!

It was a small site where I showed trusted users, mods, and all time highest bets and losses.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Cool nahtnam ! Smiley U can always pm me to see ur work in progress Wink .
I liked primedice.info .

primedice.info was a flop. No one used it, and it served no purpose. I have a much better idea that people can actually use! Smiley

What was primedice.info? I missed it!
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Sounds great! Looking forward to seeing what your ideas is.

Ill get started as soon as I get my new (custom) laptop. They are still building it, but I should have it within 2 weeks!
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Sounds great! Looking forward to seeing what your ideas is.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Cool nahtnam ! Smiley U can always pm me to see ur work in progress Wink .
I liked primedice.info .

primedice.info was a flop. No one used it, and it served no purpose. I have a much better idea that people can actually use! Smiley

Can you catch a noob up on what primedice.info was *supposed* to do?  And how the new idea is different?

Also, mods, not trying to troll with those error messages, I figured they'd be helpful to people working on bugs. CDRproblems can be annoying.

primedice.info was just a site that displayed "trusted users", mods, and highest bets of all time.

It was useless.

The new idea is a secret tho!  Wink

I actually rly liked it Cheesy . If u did put bit more effort into it i think it would be nice .

Anyways im off to bed. See yaa all tomorrow .
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Cool nahtnam ! Smiley U can always pm me to see ur work in progress Wink .
I liked primedice.info .

primedice.info was a flop. No one used it, and it served no purpose. I have a much better idea that people can actually use! Smiley

Can you catch a noob up on what primedice.info was *supposed* to do?  And how the new idea is different?

Also, mods, not trying to troll with those error messages, I figured they'd be helpful to people working on bugs. CDRproblems can be annoying.

primedice.info was just a site that displayed "trusted users", mods, and highest bets of all time.

It was useless.

The new idea is a secret tho!  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Cool nahtnam ! Smiley U can always pm me to see ur work in progress Wink .
I liked primedice.info .

primedice.info was a flop. No one used it, and it served no purpose. I have a much better idea that people can actually use! Smiley

Can you catch a noob up on what primedice.info was *supposed* to do?  And how the new idea is different?

Also, mods, not trying to troll with those error messages, I figured they'd be helpful to people working on bugs. CDRproblems can be annoying.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Great site! Love it earned a small amount and then lost it all  Huh then earned it all back!

Story of a life ! Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Cool nahtnam ! Smiley U can always pm me to see ur work in progress Wink .
I liked primedice.info .

primedice.info was a flop. No one used it, and it served no purpose. I have a much better idea that people can actually use! Smiley
full member
Activity: 136
Merit: 100
Great site! Love it earned a small amount and then lost it all  Huh then earned it all back!
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley

Cool nahtnam ! Smiley U can always pm me to see ur work in progress Wink .
I liked primedice.info .
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
I'm getting this again and again in my js console on chromium.  Chat's not updating and I suppose this has something to do with it:

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(index):1
XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059727469-922&sid=jw1IN_ZAZqBURv0BACDH. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'http://primedice.com' is therefore not allowed access. (index):1
WebSocket connection to 'ws://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=websocket&sid=qjvBpqv36RCPvphqACDo' failed: Error during WebSocket handshake: Unexpected response code: 400 socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
WebSocket connection to 'ws://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=websocket&sid=qjvBpqv36RCPvphqACDo' failed: WebSocket is closed before the connection is established. socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
OPTIONS http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059786773-953&sid=qjvBpqv36RCPvphqACDo 400 (Bad Request) socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
OPTIONS http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059786773-953&sid=qjvBpqv36RCPvphqACDo Invalid HTTP status code 400 socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059786773-953&sid=qjvBpqv36RCPvphqACDo. Invalid HTTP status code 400 (index):1
OPTIONS http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059786825-955&sid=qjvBpqv36RCPvphqACDo 400 (Bad Request) socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
OPTIONS http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059786825-955&sid=qjvBpqv36RCPvphqACDo Invalid HTTP status code 400 socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059786825-955&sid=qjvBpqv36RCPvphqACDo. Invalid HTTP status code 400 (index):1
XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059728735-927&sid=wBOcwQtn8tMalu6fACDI. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'http://primedice.com' is therefore not allowed access. (index):1
WebSocket connection to 'ws://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=websocket&sid=rDWEtEBgVrNA7TapACDp' failed: Error during WebSocket handshake: Unexpected response code: 400 socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
WebSocket connection to 'ws://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=websocket&sid=rDWEtEBgVrNA7TapACDp' failed: WebSocket is closed before the connection is established. socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
OPTIONS http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059788508-958&sid=rDWEtEBgVrNA7TapACDp 400 (Bad Request) socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
OPTIONS http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059788508-958&sid=rDWEtEBgVrNA7TapACDp Invalid HTTP status code 400 socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059788508-958&sid=rDWEtEBgVrNA7TapACDp. Invalid HTTP status code 400 (index):1
OPTIONS http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059788560-960&sid=rDWEtEBgVrNA7TapACDp 400 (Bad Request) socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
OPTIONS http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059788560-960&sid=rDWEtEBgVrNA7TapACDp Invalid HTTP status code 400 socket.io-1.0.0.js:2
XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://pd3-env-bvubqsumx7.elasticbeanstalk.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1408059788560-960&sid=rDWEtEBgVrNA7TapACDp. Invalid HTTP status code 400 (index):1

Part of this is related cross-domain resource requests. 
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
Hey guys!

I came up with an idea for a PD3 social network/sharing site. I will start the programming part as soon as I get my new laptop! Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
I won't quite your posts considering it's giant...but there are plenty of bugs and new features being implemented and people just need to be patient.
Keep the feedback coming and eventually everyone's suggestions and questions will be answered to!

And on the other note congrats to siex, what a baller :p

"bugs being implemented"  Cheesy I still can't get on the site unfortunately I can't wait until Stunna can fix out a solution! I can finally log on to where I belong.

Did u tried latest version of Chrome ? That should work in all cases, except those with to small resolution .
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
I won't quite your posts considering it's giant...but there are plenty of bugs and new features being implemented and people just need to be patient.
Keep the feedback coming and eventually everyone's suggestions and questions will be answered to!

And on the other note congrats to siex, what a baller :p

"bugs being implemented"  Cheesy I still can't get on the site unfortunately I can't wait until Stunna can fix out a solution! I can finally log on to where I belong.

funny, but actually it's structurally ambiguous:

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there are [[plenty of bugs] and [features being implemented]]...

is the intended bracketing (which is legit, imho), your reading is:

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there are [plenty of [[bugs] and [features]] being implemented]

which is also legit, but not the intended reading, I think.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
I won't quite your posts considering it's giant...but there are plenty of bugs and new features being implemented and people just need to be patient.
Keep the feedback coming and eventually everyone's suggestions and questions will be answered to!

And on the other note congrats to siex, what a baller :p

"bugs being implemented"  Cheesy I still can't get on the site unfortunately I can't wait until Stunna can fix out a solution! I can finally log on to where I belong.
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
They do look at all the comments and all the issues , its just matter of priority but it all goes on to do list.
They rly take all comments seriously .
Its just that Stunna doesn't reply to every single comment.  And dev is not active on this forum.

He replied to tell me I was wrong, but I wasn't. When I pointed that out, he stopped replying.

That's OK - he's busy, I get it, and maybe he doesn't want to have to deal with the fact that around 37 thousand winning bets weren't paid out. Potentially that's a lot of coins he owes people. I understand wanting to brush that under the carpet.

U know when u tested pd3 every single issue u pointed out was considered ,most of it fixed , and u got reply from the dev about every single one of them .

I remember two:

* it's hard to tip because the chat scrolls too fast - consider not having the pop-up menu scroll with the chat
* the provably fair algorithm as described isn't fair. it rolls high more than it rolls low

At launch, the first hadn't been addressed at all, and at least according to the documentation neither had the second. I'm told the 2nd was fixed but if so, the documentation was incorrect at launch.

Maybe there were other things I pointed out in beta, I don't remember the details.

edit: just remembered , maybe u are a bit edgy coz btc price is drooping ... U said once on pd chat u are losing alot of $$$ on each small drop . And this one was huge :S .

I've seen bigger rises and bigger dips than this. They don't really bother me any more - it's just Bitoin doing its thing.

I believe the first time I had heard of the rounding issue was after the launch of PD3 and one of our developers immediately said that was incorrect. However, I will be having a conversation with our developers and bring up the points you responded with as they do seem valid. While PD2 was running I was always told/under the impression that PD2 was running at a very very slight disadvantage (1/1M bets). Obviously our intention wasn't to secretly increase our house edge a rather insignificant amount if correct, after all we've effectively decreased our edge to .91% for the moment. I am more reach-able via PM by the way if you do not get a reply in a reasonable amount of time.

Also the PD3 algorithm was fixed right after you noted it to us, we simply forgot to update the verification page. With regards to the tipping/chat scroll issue, this isn't our priority right now, as I'm sure you've noticed we have a variety of problems we're wrangling with. The idea I wanted to implement was having a freeze on mouse-over when hovering over the chat, this will hopefully come in the near future.

Our priority for today was fixing and resuming automatic cashouts which we did along with some bug fixes/minor exploits. Next we're working on fixing some socket issues, the mobile version and squashing some more bugs.

It probably seems like I'm shrugging off a lot of your feedback or ignoring it but I've been incredibly busy and haven't gotten the chance to properly respond/look into everything you've suggested. I made sure to get all the feedback I could from you prior to launch and we discussed this feedback heavily with our team. Some of the changes are yet to come after we sort out priorities. While it probably hasn't seemed like it this past week, I've always valued your opinion and input.

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In other news grats to Slex on a very quick 22 coins made:



sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
***THIS ACCOUNT IS NO LONGER ACTIVE***
What is the current status on withdrawals, will it come within a few hours or do we need to email support?
(...and deposits?)

Stunna has it on manual at the moment, due to an error he talked about on the last page. Within a day or two it should be instant again, if not wait until Stunna gets on.
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