Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot! - page 1455. (Read 1989554 times)

LOL at you thinking your betting would have FOR SURE ended differently or you would've ended up a winner. That 12th roll has a 20% chance of losing just like any other roll. Jesus christ, he has ignored you for days, take a hint. You are getting nothing back like I told you from day 1.

So is there no way you are going to change your mind about this? I don't want to be wasting my time expecting a response if there's not going to be one. At least I have put my opinions out there I guess.

I'm really upset at this outcome though and I know for a fact my betting would not have ended the same with no error happening or if I knew my seed was changed. It's a very harsh way for me to lose all my btc, I just wish you could show a bit more compassion and understand. I deposited a lot, and left with nothing because of an error. Whether you want to believe this or not, I know its the truth.

Anyway I love all you guys who made primedice so fun for me I could not stand returning though after this as I don't like this feeling of it being me against the world. I know what happened, and how it affected the outcome (say oh of course your gonna say that cause you lost!) all you want, but I really don't think anyone truly believes/cares how shitty I feel over this. The amount of btc I lost is only 1 part of what matters to me, I expected more support from a place which seemed so friendly.

Stunna, if you change your mind you know my pd account hehe

Some shoutouts, forgive me if I missed you..this is just a short list
Hui for being the quizmaster
Micro for funding the quiz wallet
Pokerjet for always appearing at the right time to mute people
Pthmnj for being a beggar
Stunna for creating pd + introducing me to flappybirds
Hoe for having 30 accounts
Dankkk for failing on join.me repeatedly and getting scammed on a daily basis
Globalfiasco for being awesome
Nahtnam for being underage

Later everyone

i'm sorry that's what your employee/mod "nil" informed me that any such program that would change the client seed auto-manually before each bet would be considered a form of cheating or hacking and not allowed by you ! =\

Yep. UNLESS its like a million bets a second. (I think PD limits you anyways).

Are bots that speed up the bets allowed?

There's some sort of misconception that we're against software/personal scripts. This is not true, as long as you aren't doing something that is putting significant stress on our site we're fine with it .

Can I have 1 btc for no reason at all?

it depends on how they generate it to account for the % ! ,,,over time i've accepted the "dominant seed" theory! ;-) *fair? lol i want some of what you are smoking!

Yes , server seed does not change until u place a bet. The seed u see is what will be used on your next bet.

I didn't do all in on next bet after refresh because it disrupted my betting. It's hard to explain... when you're betting manual click click click.. and then an error happens, it stops what you're doing and thinking. I did 50% to get back the loss of the last 80% loss and then back to 80%. This would not have happened with no error. I'd almost certainly have gone all in, like I did a few bets later..only I would have won and not lost. Instead of over 1.1btc balance with no error, I went to 0.

I'd prefer to have my btc taken by a stranger than lose on PD like this

I still think I deserve a decent refund on my deposit because of this, the error is not the only thing. It's also not being told my client seed was changed afterwards, because there's no way I would have continued betting if I knew this. It is all just a series of unfortunate events that I wish Stunna could see from my point of view and offer a reasonable and fair solution for both of us. I'd be happy with 50%, that way none of us comes out in such a bad way, since we have different opinions and all.

Site is fair anyways, even if u don't change it. But when u change it before every bet, than u would not need to thrust its fair u would know 100% that it is fair.

Umm... Sorry on autobet now , can't refresh, so u saying that client seed changes after refresh but not server seed ?

But u did not done all in and lost on the next bet after refresh. U lost on 12th 13th bet after refresh, u changed ur betting coz of refresh, but u saying u was thinking all is exactly the same as before refresh or u woulda cashout. Doesn't make sense.

Anyways we should not argue more about it. U got reply from Stunna, and u and me just can't agree on this , ever, so there is no point of arguing.

Sorry for ur loss i lost almost whole wallet balance 0.4 btc, on that vanity scam i know how does it feel to lose everything but to be honest i would be much more happy if i lost it on pd .

the theory is (per mod/scammer nil) that if you go and change your client seed before EVERY ROLL this magically makes this site fair!...i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo

The server seed is taken from my next successful bet after the error. It you go on primedice and open the 'provably fair tab' look at your server seed.

Now place a bet, you will see this is the seed of the bet you just placed when you check the bet id.

Now look at the server seed again which will be different, refresh primedice and you'll see its the exact same until you place one more successful bet. Only the client seed changes on a refresh.


So those seeds are 100% what would have happened with no error, and my bet would have been <80 like all the others.

Yes it changes by 1 number up.

spixel tell me again how u got server seed for the next bet that did not happen ?

last time i checked the client seed changes EVERY ROLL!!! ~unless you change it! =\

Micro I can prove it. Look at the seeds I posted, those were the ones for my next bet.

About the get over it part.. read where I said its easy to think that as your on the sideline.

spixel , i will have to dis agree with u once again. When u said that u can prove that u woulda won that next bet , coz u had 3 reds before it just shows how much u don't know about chance, provability , statistic , and what u are doing on dice game.

U still had 20% chance of losing next bet! That is just a fact! And there is absolutely no way for u to prove that u woulda won that next bet.

And when error happened u DID NOT BET ALL IN on the next bet. So u known that circumstances changed. U lost only after 12 bets and in that 12 bets EVERYTHING changed, ur server seed changed 12 times and that is change that changes next bet outcome.

What are u saying/asking just doesn't make any sense.

1 more thing do autobet on 80% and see how much bets will take u to have 4 reds in a row. Its not only possible to get 4+ reds in a row on 80% , but chance is not that small AT ALL.

Again sorry for ur loss but u decided to gamble it , u took the risk , in ur case 20% of risk. And that is it. U need to get over it.

It's not the same Stunna. That's infront of you, the client seed change is hidden. How do you know I only base my betting decisions on the win chance? Like I said, if I knew my seed was changed my bets would have been different (but its irrelevant as I would have cashed out anyway in this instance) And what about the fact my next 80% roll would have won had there not been an error?

The thing is I didn't win so can you not see why I'm upset? True, if I won I wouldn't be offering you a refund. But that's because I wouldn't have noticed the ill effect of the error, and the error was on your site so I shouldn't reap the consequences.

The amount of the bet is irrelevant in this case but I know what you mean. If people only bet for fun, you wouldn't make near as much money though . I really just wish you could see things from my point of view. I'm a very honest person and not out to try take advantage. I told you I was appreciative of the .05 credit (but I don't know if this was just because Micro asked) but it just isn't enough to make the feel the outcome was fair after losing 1btc which was all I had.

Thanks for being the good guy Stunna, I don't know how it has to be to deal with this all day but you are by far one of the nicest people i've seen on the forums. Really looking forward to PD3 btw. When it comes out, I'll get it on http://rgbkey.github.io/verify/ for you.

First of all, I don't understand why you insist on claiming you were "cheated". When you hit bet all the information was in front of you. There's no reason to assume that elements of our site would be exactly the same as another. Essentially this argument reminds me of people who are upset when they refresh the page and roll and notice that the roll over is reset back to the 49.5 default rather than what they had set prior. I'm pretty sure someone complained to Doog about the same issue claiming that PD resets the roll over and JD doesn't which confused them.

 If you have any understanding of statistics you would understand that refreshing the page 1 million times would change your odds of winning. I've sent you over 10 replies via emai/PM and gave you a small refund despite completely disagreeing with everything you said. At the end of the day had you won the roll or rolled the other direction you wouldn't think twice and wouldn't be offering me a refund. I understand how frustrating it is to lose your money and I strongly urge users not to bet anything that they cannot afford to lose and play for fun instead.

I've responded to you a variety of times and marked your case as solved on email, if you decide not to use the site again that is fine but I will uphold my opinion that ensuring fair odds rather than magical seeds is what matters. I'm not interested in debating this matter further here. Ultimately I'm sorry about your loss but I don't feel the fault is mine and thus cannot return the entire bet in good conscience.