Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot! - page 1646. (Read 1990319 times)
May 23, 2013, 10:32:09 PM
Ah, sorry if it is seen as advertising, I was just arguing a bit against what you said about always losing on Coinroll.
May 23, 2013, 10:29:04 PM
Small analysis of the data above:
After 1: 25.04% win vs 24.94% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 2: 25.33% win vs 24.66% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 3: 24.83% win vs 25.11% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 4: 25.89% win vs 24.05% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 5: 25.4% win vs 24.51% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 6: 25.36% win vs 24.58% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 7: 25.33% win vs 24.66% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 8: 24.73% win vs 25.29% loss: 50.02% win chance
After 9: 25.01% win vs 25.01% loss: 50.02% win chance
After 10: 24.73% win vs 25.26% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 11: 25.01% win vs 24.94% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 12: 25.29% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 13: 25.26% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 14: 25.29% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 15: 24.66% win vs 25.26% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 16: 24.66% win vs 25.29% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 17: 25.61% win vs 24.3% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 18: 25.47% win vs 24.41% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 19: 25.19% win vs 24.69% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 20: 25.01% win vs 24.9% loss: 49.91% win chance
How to read? So, you have won the last round, you want to know what the chance of winning after 5 spins is. So in the row: After 5, you see it's 25.4%. Was your last round a loss, then after 5 it will be 24.51%.
(this is done with winning with 50.00 and higher).
What does this show? Nothing, it's random.
After 1: 25.04% win vs 24.94% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 2: 25.33% win vs 24.66% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 3: 24.83% win vs 25.11% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 4: 25.89% win vs 24.05% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 5: 25.4% win vs 24.51% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 6: 25.36% win vs 24.58% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 7: 25.33% win vs 24.66% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 8: 24.73% win vs 25.29% loss: 50.02% win chance
After 9: 25.01% win vs 25.01% loss: 50.02% win chance
After 10: 24.73% win vs 25.26% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 11: 25.01% win vs 24.94% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 12: 25.29% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 13: 25.26% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 14: 25.29% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 15: 24.66% win vs 25.26% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 16: 24.66% win vs 25.29% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 17: 25.61% win vs 24.3% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 18: 25.47% win vs 24.41% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 19: 25.19% win vs 24.69% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 20: 25.01% win vs 24.9% loss: 49.91% win chance
How to read? So, you have won the last round, you want to know what the chance of winning after 5 spins is. So in the row: After 5, you see it's 25.4%. Was your last round a loss, then after 5 it will be 24.51%.
(this is done with winning with 50.00 and higher).
What does this show? Nothing, it's random.
Hey vlees, what does the 25% chances relate to? I know you've probably clearly explained it however I'm still a little confused. Shouldn't it be 50% win 50% loss after losing x amount irregardless? I don't see how the 25%'s come in is all.
Also Namworld, I understand your a large investor in Coinroll judging by the trust you gave them (regarding the 200 BTC investment or what not), but I don't think Stunna would appreciate you advertising on his thread. Then again I might be wrong, sorry Stunna if you don't mind ^_^
May 23, 2013, 10:24:58 PM
You can get under the verification page the database dumps of bets/deposits/withdrawals/accounts
The provably fair system is based on the blockchain tx and all betting history is provided so it can be checked that rolls match the site's secret, the last tx id of user and the nonce (incremented by one on each bet). It's almost as easily auditable as SatoshiDice bets, but without the need for a Bitcoin transaction on each roll.
The provably fair system is based on the blockchain tx and all betting history is provided so it can be checked that rolls match the site's secret, the last tx id of user and the nonce (incremented by one on each bet). It's almost as easily auditable as SatoshiDice bets, but without the need for a Bitcoin transaction on each roll.
May 23, 2013, 10:19:21 PM
Well I just got really lucky with coinroll.it and won 2.55 btc....personally I'm glad I won there and not here...I don't know why but this is the first "house" I actually feel bad that they've lost so much (Stunna). Truly great customer service here.
I ALWAYS lose with them. It's so weird, I lost like 0.2 BTC betting tiny amounts. To me it feels like their house edge is like 100%.
I also like PrimeDice since it feels like it has more soul and Stunna is a legend
Coinrull's multiplier is also pretty boring, the one on PrimeDice is ingenious. Only thing Coinroll did better was fast rolls, but seems like Stunna sorted that out for us.CoinRoll > SatoshiDice any day though.
Coinroll has been following more or less closely the 1% house edge. Bets do remain provably fair and the whole list of bets is public. Rolls are based on the account's last tx ID. Although when looking at individual users, some are average, some are very lucky and some are very unlucky. But for those with a very large amount of bets (thousands), it starts getting quite close to 1% edge.
I don't quite see the difference for the multiplier thing. Other than being presented differently (Under X/65,535 for CR or Over x/100 for PD)... works exactly the same way. To me PrimeDice and Coinroll are essentially clones.
Coinroll's provably fair system is better tho.
How can you see how individual users have done there?
May 23, 2013, 10:15:29 PM
Well I just got really lucky with coinroll.it and won 2.55 btc....personally I'm glad I won there and not here...I don't know why but this is the first "house" I actually feel bad that they've lost so much (Stunna). Truly great customer service here.
I ALWAYS lose with them. It's so weird, I lost like 0.2 BTC betting tiny amounts. To me it feels like their house edge is like 100%.
I also like PrimeDice since it feels like it has more soul and Stunna is a legend
Coinrull's multiplier is also pretty boring, the one on PrimeDice is ingenious. Only thing Coinroll did better was fast rolls, but seems like Stunna sorted that out for us.CoinRoll > SatoshiDice any day though.
Coinroll has been following more or less closely the 1% house edge. Bets do remain provably fair and the whole list of bets is public. Rolls are based on the account's last tx ID. Although when looking at individual users, some are average, some are very lucky and some are very unlucky. But for those with a very large amount of bets (thousands), it starts getting quite close to 1% edge.
I don't quite see the difference for the multiplier thing. Other than being presented differently (Under X/65,535 for CR or Over x/100 for PD)... works exactly the same way. To me PrimeDice and Coinroll are essentially clones.
Coinroll's provably fair system is better tho.
May 23, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
Who says the house always wins? I wanted to try out PrimeDice especially after reading some of the comments. Guess I'll have to wait 48 hours.
Yeh 1% is tiny tbh. And despite the investigations on the prior page, proving their is no pattern & no bad functionality in the random script, I still am very skeptical of Stunna's RNG, I feel as if it's being abused.
May 23, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
Well I just got really lucky with coinroll.it and won 2.55 btc....personally I'm glad I won there and not here...I don't know why but this is the first "house" I actually feel bad that they've lost so much (Stunna). Truly great customer service here.
I ALWAYS lose with them. It's so weird, I lost like 0.2 BTC betting tiny amounts. To me it feels like their house edge is like 100%.
I also like PrimeDice since it feels like it has more soul and Stunna is a legend
Coinrull's multiplier is also pretty boring, the one on PrimeDice is ingenious. Only thing Coinroll did better was fast rolls, but seems like Stunna sorted that out for us.CoinRoll > SatoshiDice any day though.
May 23, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
Well I just got really lucky with coinroll.it and won 2.55 btc....personally I'm glad I won there and not here...I don't know why but this is the first "house" I actually feel bad that they've lost so much (Stunna). Truly great customer service here.
May 23, 2013, 09:12:43 PM
He said 24-48 Hours depending on when he gets more coins in stock.
May 23, 2013, 09:09:19 PM
Any idea when you'll be back up, Stunna?
May 23, 2013, 07:54:42 PM
Hey sorry to hear that.....
I had about 0.26 BTC there.....the withdrawal address for reference is 1B7az4yyTMeCHagSL896JB5sZauR7c9pA7
the deposit address I was provided was 1PE2kkjprPDP84Sqbgb9ocJ1YUZ4tLbcvX
thanks
I had about 0.26 BTC there.....the withdrawal address for reference is 1B7az4yyTMeCHagSL896JB5sZauR7c9pA7
the deposit address I was provided was 1PE2kkjprPDP84Sqbgb9ocJ1YUZ4tLbcvX
thanks
May 23, 2013, 06:41:40 PM
Wow Stunna 
Sorry to hear.
I can loan you my 50 BTC (48 to be exact..) if you need?
Edit: Interest free of course.
Sorry to hear.I can loan you my 50 BTC (48 to be exact..) if you need?
Edit: Interest free of course.
May 23, 2013, 06:35:32 PM
Wow sorry to hear this Stunna...
May 23, 2013, 06:26:56 PM
We are encountering several issues, we will be down shortly. We also need to stock up on bitcoins again before we can support larger bets, we are currently down 300BTC within 5 days.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
May 23, 2013, 05:03:35 PM
Forgot to post the 10k sampleset.
Just as the 2827 one: Client seed is always 0. Serverseed is from 5/24/2013. WIN/LOSS is on numbers higher than 50.50.
So in case anyone thinks he can do some statistical analysis (it's useless, don't bother), you can use this data instead of fetching it yourself and possibly cause lots of bandwidth for the operators.
http://pastebin.com/izFyaPX5
Just as the 2827 one: Client seed is always 0. Serverseed is from 5/24/2013. WIN/LOSS is on numbers higher than 50.50.
So in case anyone thinks he can do some statistical analysis (it's useless, don't bother), you can use this data instead of fetching it yourself and possibly cause lots of bandwidth for the operators.
http://pastebin.com/izFyaPX5
May 23, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
I just played a few rolls to see how fast it plays now, and I have to say it's much better. My Internet speed here is horrible, but I still get my rolls done about as quickly as I can do anything else online.
May 23, 2013, 03:31:10 PM
You will then need to divide by 42949672.95 [Which is ((2^16)-1)/100]
It still says that? 2^16 = 65536. It should say 32 not 16. I reported this error quite some time ago.
May 23, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
I won BTC and cashed out but it hasn't shown up in my Blockchain wallet yet?
You should receive it as soon as your deposit reaches the proper number of confirmations. If it does not please inbox me.
May 23, 2013, 12:51:32 PM
I won BTC and cashed out but it hasn't shown up in my Blockchain wallet yet?
May 23, 2013, 12:10:04 PM
Can you tell me what was the bitcoin address that was in the game when I made this transfer?
https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/a3a3a9d78f4a7fc7368d6fe978066f558bf861cd5b34ffa9ac28a1c9ae7c1bac
It's just that I do not remember what was the address I used ... and wanted to continue playing ...
Stunna... anything I can do?
https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/a3a3a9d78f4a7fc7368d6fe978066f558bf861cd5b34ffa9ac28a1c9ae7c1bac
It's just that I do not remember what was the address I used ... and wanted to continue playing ...
Stunna... anything I can do?
What was your balance when you left it overnight? Also, do you have your ID?
I did not deposit and then played ... so it should be 0.0001 btc
My problem is that I do not remember what my ID ...
Feel free to put in a new address and make a new account. I'd be happy to credit you a corresponding amount.
Thank you.
I have created a new account.
BTC Address: 1HLWN3sdTc2gnzQrsk5tF1ysjwmGynFNSd
ID Game: 26e338fe6f1d3ffe020f711b45c4be69
Just to inform you that due to the situation that said I had, was reimbursed by the PrimeDice! Thank you!
I'll have fun in the game.
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