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Omikifuse

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Quote from: steveds on April 30, 2015, 01:21:58 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country#United_States

Btc legal in the us (yet they can't depo)

Btc illegal in russia(yet russian chat)

explain this stunna

US annoys people all around the world, russia don't?

db2

newbie

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Quote from: steveds on April 30, 2015, 01:58:05 PM

us players can still withdraw

For now.

Quote from: tspacepilot on April 30, 2015, 01:58:34 PM

but in the end, there's a solution available so I'm not mad

It's a trust issue. They violated my trust by doing that. Via tor, vpn, carrier pigeon or whatever I no longer trust that PD will not abscond with my coin.

edit: to be clear, until this my trust in them was total. This is a gross violation.

tspacepilot

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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.

Quote from: db2 on April 30, 2015, 01:11:03 PM

Great while it lasted. So long and thanks for all the fish, I'm done with PD now as a direct result of this bonehead move.

We can call it boneheaded but everyone certainly has the right to try to look out for themself and their own safety. Certainly it'll be a little annoying to have to use tor when in USA but in the end, there's a solution available so I'm not mad

steveds

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us players can still withdraw
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Havelivi

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Quote from: steveds on April 30, 2015, 01:21:58 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country#United_States

Btc legal in the us (yet they can't depo)

Btc illegal in russia(yet russian chat)

explain this stunna

interested question well Stunna will explain this, as many person gave solution for US players to use of VPN or Tor to hide their ip addresses so they can make deposit and take withdraw and that is not a problem for PD.

steveds

legendary

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country#United_States

Btc legal in the us (yet they can't depo)

Btc illegal in russia(yet russian chat)

explain this stunna

db2

newbie

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Great while it lasted. So long and thanks for all the fish, I'm done with PD now as a direct result of this bonehead move.

steveds

legendary

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my questions are still not answered Huh

would love to know what professional said gambling btc is illegal or will be illegal in the us

first of the the us government does not recognize btc as a currency so until this is done(mine 5-10 years to get shit inorder and pursue people)

then they will look at rule breakers

i get that its a preventative measure but limiting us from deposing is just stupid btc isn't even a currency(its monopoly money)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country#United_States

wikipedia agrees with me and i trust there legal staff over primedice's

tspacepilot

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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.

Quote from: RussianRaibow on April 30, 2015, 06:44:27 AM

Quote from: NLNico on April 30, 2015, 06:33:18 AM

Very likely related to the news of 2 days ago about the charges on Micon. And Nevada AG who says “Industry must be licensed and controlled”.

http://www.bluff.com/news/bryan-micon-charged-with-class-b-felony-arrest-warrant-issued-65333/
http://www.theopenledger.com/bryan-micon-charged-with-class-b-felony-arrest-warrant-issued/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34759e/bryan_micons_legal_defense_on_gofundme_bitcoin/

Unfortunate, but those in the "land of the free" aren't very free.

Stunna has an advantage over Micon as his identity is not known...

Of course they're also not comparable in that Micon was the "spokesman" and "pokerpro" for sealswithclubs but wasn't an owner/operator. On the other hand, I think Stunna is the owner/operator of primedice.

Anyway, thanks MICRO for the clarification about using tor/vpn.

Gws24

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Quote from: ShetKid on April 30, 2015, 07:57:48 AM

Quote from: Gws24 on April 30, 2015, 07:51:36 AM

Dread Pirate Roberts also thought his identity was not known....... Just because his identity is not known doesn't mean it can't be found especially if the us puts some serious resources on it. Can't blame Stunna for not wanting to find out!

But Stunna is not operating from within US. I am sure they won't waste resources to find out the identity of someone living in another country like Stunna.

Yes they will if it concerns / caters to us citizens. Before they found DPR's identity he might as well have been someone living in say Poland or Brazil. Pokerstars for instance also got indicted for serving online poker to americans even though they are based in the isle of Man (great britain). Doesn't matter where you're from as long as you are serving american citizens with a service they deem to be illegal then they will investigate.

Primedice might very well be too small at the moment to put too many resources on it but would you want to take that risk? There is a reason why Satoshidice stopped serving the us already in may 2013 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SatoshiDice)....

CyberRoamer

newbie

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To admin
I think my account(bhavesh) was used by someone else recently.
I saw that i was promoting http://freeprimedice.esy.es/ in my chat in PVP section but i never made them(why should I make them if you see my PM to the last user you would know). Please unmute me from chats.
Thanks

ShetKid

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Quote from: Gws24 on April 30, 2015, 07:51:36 AM

Dread Pirate Roberts also thought his identity was not known....... Just because his identity is not known doesn't mean it can't be found especially if the us puts some serious resources on it. Can't blame Stunna for not wanting to find out!

But Stunna is not operating from within US. I am sure they won't waste resources to find out the identity of someone living in another country like Stunna.

Gws24

hero member

Activity: 537

Merit: 524

Dread Pirate Roberts also thought his identity was not known....... Just because his identity is not known doesn't mean it can't be found especially if the us puts some serious resources on it. Can't blame Stunna for not wanting to find out!

RussianRaibow

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I AM A SCAMMER

Quote from: NLNico on April 30, 2015, 06:33:18 AM

Very likely related to the news of 2 days ago about the charges on Micon. And Nevada AG who says “Industry must be licensed and controlled”.

http://www.bluff.com/news/bryan-micon-charged-with-class-b-felony-arrest-warrant-issued-65333/
http://www.theopenledger.com/bryan-micon-charged-with-class-b-felony-arrest-warrant-issued/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34759e/bryan_micons_legal_defense_on_gofundme_bitcoin/

Unfortunate, but those in the "land of the free" aren't very free.

Stunna has an advantage over Micon as his identity is not known...

NLNico

legendary

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DiceSites.com owner

Very likely related to the news of 2 days ago about the charges on Micon. And Nevada AG who says “Industry must be licensed and controlled”.

http://www.bluff.com/news/bryan-micon-charged-with-class-b-felony-arrest-warrant-issued-65333/
http://www.theopenledger.com/bryan-micon-charged-with-class-b-felony-arrest-warrant-issued/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34759e/bryan_micons_legal_defense_on_gofundme_bitcoin/

Unfortunate, but those in the "land of the free" aren't very free.

Zaih

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Quote from: steveds on April 30, 2015, 03:07:20 AM

A) the us government does not recognize btc as an actually currency
B)If you own a monopoly currency casino you can't get sued(maybe copy right infringement by hash bro )
C) What laws are you breaking?

Obviously they've received advice from professionals and have made an educated decision.

None the less sad to see. Shame online gambling is so regulated in the US.

steveds

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A) the us government does not recognize btc as an actually currency
B)If you own a monopoly currency casino you can't get sued(maybe copy right infringement by hash bro )
C) What laws are you breaking?

LiQuidx

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Quote from: TriggerX on April 30, 2015, 02:14:25 AM

A primedice user told me this online and I was wondering if it was true or not.

Is it true making bigger bets is better than lots of smaller bets? Because if you make a big bet it's either a win or lose, but can have a losing streak in which you lose all your money. Which one is better? or are they the same?

It all depends on you. The risk is still the same.. By doing larger bets obviously your stake is much bigger and a small number of losses will cost you your bank. On the other hand doing a lot of small bets you risk a big losing streak which can again cost you your bank. So it's just a matter of preference or how you want to win (or lose).

MICRO

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Oldschool!

Quote from: shulio on April 30, 2015, 02:10:53 AM

Quote from: LiQuidx on April 30, 2015, 02:07:13 AM

Quote from: shulio on April 30, 2015, 02:03:00 AM

Quote from: Stunna on April 30, 2015, 01:52:56 AM

Friends,

Effective immediately Primedice will no longer accept deposits from visitors located within certain jurisdictions including the US. While Primedice is neither operated nor based in the USA, we've chosen to take proactive measures to mitigate long term risk for our users and service. The legal landscape is quickly shifting and we are choosing to completely block deposits from users located in what we've deemed as higher risk jurisdictions.

Primedice does not make use of US currency nor banking, and this block is not recognition that bitcoin gambling is illegal. This decision has been solely based off of discussions between Primedice and our legal counsel.

I know this news will disappoint many of you, however we're strong believers in Bitcoin and are playing defensively to secure our long term position at the top of this rapidly growing industry. We're confident that every major online casino will accept Bitcoin within the next five years and we're determined to compete directly with them by continuing to create new disruptive experiences. We've been lucky enough to see the transformative power of Bitcoin with regards to gambling from a first hand perspective and are confident this is the right decision moving forward.

Thank You,

Primedice Team

Can you list the other certain jurisdictions that you mentioned apart from the US? any issue with playing there again by using vpn or other ip changer application? Even if you make this announcement im afraid that many people from US will still play there by using vpn or the other ip changer

I don't think there will be an issue using a VPN or a proxy unless PrimeDice decides to block those too.

You are right there is no announcement about using VPN , but still it is not clear enough for me that is why Im asking for confirmation, because I dont want them to block my account and dont allow me to withdraw if they knew that I access it from VPN.

Not gonna happen . Im 100% sure u can use VPN and there is no way for primedice to tell u come from US or whatever. And there is not much will to know that to so u will be good

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In bitcoin world and gambling , we should all use VPN's anyways privacy is the big thing lately

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MICRO

legendary

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Oldschool!

Quote from: WhatTheGox on April 30, 2015, 01:33:13 AM

Quote from: Stunna on April 30, 2015, 01:22:30 AM

Friends,

Effective immediately Primedice will no longer accept deposits from visitors located within certain jurisdictions including the US. While Primedice is neither operated nor based in the USA, we've chosen to take proactive measures to mitigate long term risk for our users and service. The legal landscape is quickly shifting and we are choosing to completely block deposits from users located in what we've deemed as higher risk jurisdictions.

Primedice does not make use of US currency nor banking, and this block is not recognition that bitcoin gambling is illegal. This decision has been solely based off of discussions between Primedice and our legal counsel.

I know this news will disappoint many of you, however we're strong believers in Bitcoin and are playing defensively to secure our long term position at the top of this rapidly growing industry. We're confident that every major online casino will accept Bitcoin within the next five years and we're determined to compete directly with them by continuing to create new disruptive experiences. We've been lucky enough to see the transformative power of Bitcoin with regards to gambling from a first hand perspective and are confident this is the right decision moving forward.

Thank You,

Primedice Team

Oh my this will be upsetting to many, it could be worse though. At least with primedice they dont take your details to gamble like fiat sites.

Use VPN's and never care about stuff like that Wink

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