Topic: 🔴 Problem with an inappropriate attitude (racism) on Bitcointalk (Read 822 times)

I'm no feminist, but things weren't as good for women or minorities back then, though in some respects it was a much better time socially--you didn't have to edit everything you said like there's pressure to do today, nor was there that culture of victimhood that's so prevalent in 2021 (and has been since around 2015-16).  I'm all for women's rights and fairness for all, but that's not what identity politics is all about, unfortunately. 

Anyway, you're right to suggest that OP (and many others) need to grow a thick shell around them if they're going to be a member of bitcointalk.  Getting offended is the price you have to be willing to pay for the freedom to speak your mind.  If there were rules against racism, sexism, or "offensive" posts, this forum would absolutely suck.  One of the reasons I joined it is because there weren't any of those rules, and there were on many other forums I'd been a member of.

Oddly enough, most of them seem to exist only on the internet.  In real life, I don't interact with many of them--but in real life, I don't try to offend people and tend to be respectful anyway.  The snowflake thing has been going on for years now, too.  I'm wondering when the pendulum is going to start swinging the other way.  I'd say it's about time, no?

The only sub-section we have much racism right now is on the Bitcointalk unofficial discord board, one of the reason I deleted my discord account I faced several racism comments and it uncool to think of another race as the least being. The use of words is great concern right now but what the OP posted is not a racism case.

I'm just looking and it's also not clear to me where the OP found any relation to racism and incorrect comment regarding skin colour. complete nonsense and an attempt to produce problems out of nothing. I'm not sure what the purpose of that is, to be honest, there are very few racist incidents on the forum here. either the moderators are doing their job well or I haven't noticed.

So many snowflakes around these days. OP grow a fucking backbone & get on with your life. I don’t see anything remotely offensive in the screenshot. Seriously man up. I am so sick of the faux offended do-gooders who seem to be everywhere at the moment.

I was born in the wrong era, I wish I was born pre 1970’s. Honestly, some people are desperate to appear offended by something new all the time.

OP definitely sits on the toilet to take a piss.

Cryptotourist is just busting their ballz on the BSV thread and the shills try to deflect and smear him back anyway they can. They ran out of technical arguments regarding which one is the "real" bitcoin, big blocks matter etc and started with this crap...

I would say this has been bumped enough IMO

This is a large forum of about 3millions users which not all of them are as mature as you are or know how to chose their words properly, and to begin with Cryptotourist is a black dude, this alone is enough to tell you that he was actually making fun of the doctor and not his race. Right of speech is not moderated on the forum, the use of the words " fck u, assholes, idiot" has nothing to do with the forum. This is a compliment compared to the ones we see on the reputation board daily. I'm back and this is not a racism comment.

Sad but true.  At least it's easy to ignore that sort of ignorance.  I've seen a lot worse get left unmoderated though.  Considering there's no personal information, doesn't seem to be any lies (just ignorance), and it's happening on forum, the best thing to do is probably ignore the user.  When people start posting personal information, spreading lies, and harassing users both on and off the forum, that's where it becomes an issue with me, and even in that case (Vod) the user never had any action taken against them by the Administration so I am certain nothing will be done here.

That was certainly inappropriate but I don't think it was cause he's black.

These days it's actually a fair question to verify who a person is in any given promotion being touted on this Forum.

An image search done by me just now confirms the identity of the person in question:


Screen shot from the OP's quote:



Identical image found on this page:  https://www.crunchbase.com/person/chris-gibbons-2 - Archive [1a] [1b]

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HOWEVER - asking the question in the form that the OP has identified I feel is not appropriate as the most simple of searches confirms the persons' identity and therefore profession.

In addition to your post, I don't think racism can be possible here on the forum for the fact that everyone in the ecosystem are chatting and no video of oneself or pictures that can tells if a person is white or black.... Conclusively from the above topic , mod can't be applied as a result that racism are not moderated.

People now are so sensitive and get offended so easy. Sometimes even if you say something without any bad intentions, someone still can get offended.
I don't see racism in that post. Is it not allowed to say something bad about person just because he is black? If someone would said same thing about white or Asian guy, probably you wouldn't pay attention to such post.
I hope it won't turn into BLM Bitcointalk edition...

That's right, because racism doesn't violate forum rule, it is certain that there is a possibility that it will hit the heart of men or women who don't have Captain America's shield. LOL

Forums do not act to prevent racism from happening to certain individual because this is not the same court as in the real world. I think ignoring certain users who are being racist is enough to solve this problem for the OP.

Sorry I missed your post and only saw it now that this thread got bumped.  I've seen doctors who smoke and one who weighs over 400lbs.  You don't have to be a "health enthusiast" in order to be an effective physician, though I would admit that being severely overweight doesn't exactly set a great example for patients. 

Ah, it got bumped by a complete shitposter.  Makes sense now.

That should be stickied on every single page on bitcointalk--along with a bitcoin price ticker.  Maybe with the new forum software; I'm sure Theymos is hard at work implementing all of that.

Racism is not against the forum rules. I don't know anybody that got banned for being racist yet. If you don't like to read a particular person, you can always put him/her on your ignore list.

Grow a thicker shell.

I myself have always thought that “Dr” Craig Wright does not have a “Dr” look.  Is it racist of me to notice that he looks like a two-bit sleazy grifter?

Check out the facial physiognomy of “Dr” Faketoshi and his weasel-faced retinue:


Forget about “Dr”.  Would you buy a used car from someone who looks like that!?

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My such observation may be racist, because Craig Wright is Australian.  Thus, he is the probably the descendant of some thieves and scammers who were sentenced to “transportation”, way back when Australia was a penal colony.  Think about it:  His ancestors may have been involuntarily relocated across the oceans to another continent, kept in chains, used for labour.

kna, am I racist against Australians?  I don’t hate Australians—not all of them!  There are some good ones—well, theoretically, I guess there may be some good ones.  And they are not as bad as Americans, who descend a very long way from the misfit dregs of all Europe.

Will thermos now bane me for offence to Aussies and/or fat, stupid, uncultured, abysmally degenerate Muricans? 

@kna, your master should have used a short leash on you girl!


I did. Nigerian Prince look. Maybe I should have used C&C look. It's the same look, and they're white, and my favorite SV scammer would not have been insulted.
Wait, he wasn't, he's too thick. He just saw an angle and decided to exploit it.



Thanks, finally. Total imbecile, and/or shitty "doctor" - much like the other "doctor".



I do take pride in that. Call me an SV bully, yo.

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This thread got my attention only last night. I don't wonder off around the forum anymore, and rather post only in a few threads.

Please be kind to kna. He is special.

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Thank you all.

Eh, just look what you started:


My proof that you and your cronies are antisemitic is at least good as your proof that Cryptotourist is racist.  Accordingly, please promptly disconnect yourself from the Internet, and turn yourself in to the hate speech police.

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Too many people are caught up in a misdirection:  Dissecting what Cryptotourist really meant, or whether kna is “the real racist” for reading his own racism into what Cryptotourist said, etc.

That is how such creatures as kna lead you down the garden path...  Don’t let kna frame the argument.  Question the premises!

This Meta thread is utterly moronic, because this forum has no policy of banning people for (real or imaginary) racist statements.  And nobody has pointed out that this is completely wrong:


WRONG.  Racist speech is not illegal in the United States; it is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Although Americans are lamentably fat, and their country is horrible, they have two good features:  Their First Amendment, and their Second Amendment.  That First Amendment makes the U.S. a pretty good place for hosting websites that allow a diverse range of opinions.

This website is operated from, and physically located in, the jurisdiction of the United States.  Therefore, please feel free to kindly fuck off with your Craig Wright tier mentally retarded pseudolegal nonsense.

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Quoted out of context because it’s funnier this way:

No.  Actually, I am quite racist.  I think that white people are a genetically defective inferior race.  The proof is that they are cowards who fear being called racist; and they fear it so much that they will give away their money, their countries, and their children to avoid it.  They also have inferior logical reasoning skills, so they cannot understand how stupid this is.  I am glad that I am not white, so I do not share their racial defects.

Any other questions?  

Lol thanks that was funny.

Are you sure you're not a racist?

Why would you assume the negative comment there refers to his skin color?

It's very racist that you make such an assumption. Do you view black skin as a negative?  Is his race a negative for you?

Mods should ban you because I suspect you're a closet racist and you want to be held to your own standards I'm sure.

Now that you've outted yourself as a racist and as a hater of free speech. You should held to your own standards and banned.

If he thinks that guys face is an unlikely candidate for a phd then that is his opinion. Maybe be hes an expert in correlating facial maps to IQ?  

I mean to you personally gibbons may appear super smart. That's your opinion and I dont care about it really. Since you're clearly a moron.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion until it encourages and promotes actual harm to another.

The only strong argument for racism is the racism you're inadvertently demonstrating.  

Sick and tired of the racism claims to prevent any opinion being voiced.

He thinks the guy doesn't look like a doctor ....that's fine. Let him think what he wants.
If he was white and the same comment was voiced. Would you claim racism? If not think about that.   

I agree with Loyce, it's how we perceive things that makes up our side of the story, a person has more identity than just his skin color or religion and criticising a person always doesn't mean insulting his skin color or faith or anything, a person can be insulted for any number of reason and identities and it's upto us how we look at it. Plus, if something really offends you, it's better to just ignore than to feed on it as it will only mentally torture you, none harms the offender.

Everyone reacts differently, its his freedom too but as they suggest get yourself used to it.

If you find it offensive then attacking back is an option for you kna, you don't get an apology here by saying it's racism when the guy just doesn't express clearly what he just say. He must have doubt he is a doctor and I mean looks could be deceiving we all know that.

Just an attempt by OP to silence opposition.

OP has several accounts banned for plagiarism and when he's not copy/pasting Coingeek articles into the BSV thread he engages in petty personal squabbles with BSV's critics.

His temper has gotten him in trouble several times before:


He got busted doing fake translations before this:


There's no direct blockchain evidence that kna is linked to a dozen or so other accounts that all post the same copy/paste gibberish in the same threads (BSV, CloakCoin), but you can tell they are the same from their use of big, colored fonts, and of course, their combined lack of a single independent thought.

If @kna does not know or does not use Report to moderator or Trust system well, two topics are helpful for him.

- Report to moderator: [Unofficial Guide] Reporting effectively
- Trust system: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

Stop arguing because you can't encourage people to support your perception in judging a piece of writing that is labeled freedom of expression. You can do this yourself if needed. Check out this option.

• You know what the "report to moderator" button does, right? Report the post to a moderator for follow up and include a little bit of information about it.
• You know what a "trust system" does, right? Open your trust setting and enter the person as someone you don't trust with an "~".

Both action are easy enough for you to do, I guess you just need to stop arguing that will only end in vain. The logic is that you shouldn't always resort to feeling when someone doesn't like something they don't like. He is free to give judgment, freedom of expression, free speech and you just have to take the middle ground and you are free to ignore it.

Now what would you say, would you also say I racist you just because I don't support your perception ?

I read it twice. Than three times. Then I read his another post. You know what, it must be you steering up racism stuff, not the guy you quoted. Offended? Grow yourself a pair. Or here's option B: how about a ban on posting people's pictures on the forum so guys like you can't read comments below and claim these comments are racist. Ridiculous? Well, exactly.

You're the one who brings up his skin color, Cryptotourist only mentioned his face.
Why do you think (verbal) attacks on Bitcointalk are only allowed to people who don't have a black skin? That seems quite racist

If I had to guess his profession from his looks, I'd say car seller, not doctor. And if you say you don't judge people by the way they look, I simply don't believe you.

People are so sensitive and overly trying to protect others, that they don't even realize their own actions are racist. Not that it matters, the word "racism" is overused anyway.

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Did someone on the internet offend you? Oh my, you're in for a ride! Maybe you should read some poetry!
Allow me to quote myself:

People choose to feel offended because they think it gives them special rights. Or snowflake point of some sort.

I don't even know how people get offended by such remarks. If someone or a troll makes such remarks, just ignore them and see if it will break a single bone in your body.

This is the internet and worse still. It is a forum full of anonymous individuals. Why would you feel bad or affected just because some random individual who doesn't even know you just made what you felt like was an insult?

We have seen countless of dramas here especially when you go to the Reputation Board, and these kind of insults has been one of the topics, it's not appropriate  for a ban, as the only thing you can do here is to ignore the guy.

It is not actually a racism but a pure bully and judgemental act of that user.

Well, we can meet a lot of that kind of user here in the forum. Trust me there are many in the likes of them here but you should not take them seriously. Thermy are just nothing to worry about if you get bullied. Remember that digital world is prone to this kind to act fast and easy just a click away then the whole world will going to know how yoi had been treated by the others.

In that case as what the OP had stated, it is clearly nothing against racism but the user was bully and judgemental. So, there is nothing to worry about racism. I know that the we come to fair when it comes to races and no race is above of the other. What important is how you do and achieve things just take Ex President of the USA Obama which has gone achieving extra miles for his countrymen. I even look up to that man and he has my snappy Salute!

I have read it a few times but I can't classify this as a racist remark. If the picture didn't show a black man and instead showed a white guy, would you have made this thread? Someone even commented in the thread you linked to that Cryptotourist (the person who wrote the comment) is black himself. Whether or not he is, I don't know.

This is the Belgian Minister of Heath:



She is a doctor, but to me that is not the face and body I have in my mind when I think of health, fitness, or nutrition. Whether she is white, black, male, or female does not affect my opinion on that matter. Google Maggie De Block if you want to see more of her pictures. Maybe she is a terrific physician and looks the way she does due to health problems, but my first impression wouldn't be this is a doctor and health enthusiast. 

He clearly admits that he is not referring to the skin color of the guy in the poster but rather to the nature of the project itself which seems to be a fraud.


Which leads to this.

Obviously, the OP, if you look at his trust, is another character who is looking for a scandal on the forum.
Therefore, one should not pay any attention to such provocations. There is a lot of insults here every day, and how to react to this is everyone's personal business. There is always a button "ignore", and if everything is really complicated, there is a button LOGOUT.

You can't determine the actual footage either the remark is an improper mentality or not. Every individual posses different perspective regarding this topic and we can't underestimate none of the things. I feel somehow OK regarding the comments, since here almost everyone holding sarcastic manner. However, I truly go against with the word of "racism".

Obviously what the screenshot portray is not good but as you can see there is no direct comment about the racism as there is no foul or concrete and direct hit to the photo. OP is the one interpreted as racism this case but you can noticed yourself that it's not.

What could be done here better is ignored the guy commented and move on. It's not like racism is added on the rules to be followed but to be a good user here it's just simply common sense not to be like that. Right?

There's always going to be something like this everywhere, especially on the internet.  No one is saying that "that comment" is okay, but it's generally Cryptotourist's opinion on how that person looks. Knowing that Forums are for discussion, mostly, arguments would go against your view, and you might feel attacked on it. And again, there's no specific reason that it is a racist remark, but those who interpret it like that will think that it's a racist thing.

You can always report to the moderator if you feel like it needs to be deleted, but it would depend on the moderator whether or not he/she will delete it once reported.

You probably didn't notice it because you're not constantly focused on identity politics and race issues like so many people are these days.  It's fine to be anti-racist, but in the end you're not going to change someone's viewpoint and IMO censorship isn't the answer--especially for an ambiguous comment like the one in the OP.

In this particular case I wouldn't even report it, especially since racism isn't moderated on this forum.  Members are generally free to say things that might offend you, and as long as they're not blatantly trolling the moderators aren't going to do anything.

Yea, this. I really don't know and I'm definitely not defending him/her, but the dude might've said the same thing if it was the case that a white/asian guy was in the pic.

With that said, seriously, just report the reply and move on. I'm not saying that it's ok, but some people are simply a-holes especially knowing that we're in a pseudonymous forum.

Fortunately, there are several opinions that do not see racism anywhere, because I do not see it and I thought that maybe I had not noticed it for some reason.

Do we have to think they are racist comments because they are directed to a black person? Because they are two different things. One thing are derogatory comments to a black person and another thing are comments to that same person for the fact of being black.

There is a trend that started in political correctness but it is going too far now.

Racism is not moderated on this forum. You can report it as trolling but it is very unlikely to be deleted.

Nor is that post racist to begin with. People reading that post and thinking "it's because he's black" probably are.

I honestly don't see any racism in his post, and that BSV topic is self-moderated junk, so good luck getting something done, but hey maybe you can ask CSW Faketoshi to remove it in his free time when he is not chasing and suing Bitcoin developers for hosting BTC whitepaper.

This is not a post that deserves to be moderated. If you go to the "off-topic" section you will find many discussions full of hate against a religion. Check out the user Sputnik for example to see what I mean

Perhaps it's because the guy really looks like an imbecile, perhaps because he thinks the vaccination program is just propaganda, who knows. You're the one who started to think about black.

If we listen to everyone, we couldn't even say: "shut the hell" up without being accused of something

Actually, you can also take it as the user is referring the profile created for the project is fake because most of the projects works in that way but only the user who commented on that can give on what context he posted a comment like that.

Race wasn't mentioned in that comment, though I can see how you'd think it was made because the guy is black.  I don't understand the second part "Good luck tracking your assholes, yo".  I probably don't know the context, however.

In any case, I seriously doubt that post will get deleted.  This forum is big on free speech, which includes speech that offends you.  If you think someone is a racist and don't care for the comments he's making, you've got the option to use the ignore button.  I'd also advise growing a thicker skin if you plan on sticking around the forum, because there's no telling when someone is going to write something that could be offensive. 

Nowhere is it claimed that bitcointalk is going to keep you free from discomfort.  I'd also add that if you don't like what that user wrote, you can always challenge him in a post of your own.

I doubt they'll ban that user. but a mod probably would delete it if someone or you reported the post(but I am not certain).

just a note the forum refrain from silencing free speech as much as possible so this is probably won't be the last time you'll see offensive remarks or an insult here in the forum. my only tip is to thicken your skin up and ignore them or just report the post if you find it off-topic and unnecessary or it is not adding anything to the discussion.

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here I found a post from mprep regarding racist remarks and what would happen.

Wow that is definitely not okay. Did you report him?

I think the moderators will pick up on this thread and take appropriate actions.

It is 2021, racism shouldn't be tolerated anywhere on this world, online or offline.

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