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legendary
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I was born in the wrong era, I wish I was born pre 1970’s. Honestly, some people are desperate to appear offended by something new all the time.
I'm no feminist, but things weren't as good for women or minorities back then, though in some respects it was a much better time socially--you didn't have to edit everything you said like there's pressure to do today, nor was there that culture of victimhood that's so prevalent in 2021 (and has been since around 2015-16).  I'm all for women's rights and fairness for all, but that's not what identity politics is all about, unfortunately. 

Anyway, you're right to suggest that OP (and many others) need to grow a thick shell around them if they're going to be a member of bitcointalk.  Getting offended is the price you have to be willing to pay for the freedom to speak your mind.  If there were rules against racism, sexism, or "offensive" posts, this forum would absolutely suck.  One of the reasons I joined it is because there weren't any of those rules, and there were on many other forums I'd been a member of.

I am so sick of the faux offended do-gooders who seem to be everywhere at the moment.
Oddly enough, most of them seem to exist only on the internet.  In real life, I don't interact with many of them--but in real life, I don't try to offend people and tend to be respectful anyway.  The snowflake thing has been going on for years now, too.  I'm wondering when the pendulum is going to start swinging the other way.  I'd say it's about time, no?
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I'm not sure what the purpose of that is, to be honest, there are very few racist incidents on the forum here. either the moderators are doing their job well or I haven't noticed.
The only sub-section we have much racism right now is on the Bitcointalk unofficial discord board, one of the reason I deleted my discord account I faced several racism comments and it uncool to think of another race as the least being. The use of words is great concern right now but what the OP posted is not a racism case.
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So many snowflakes around these days. OP grow a fucking backbone & get on with your life. I don’t see anything remotely offensive in the screenshot. Seriously man up. I am so sick of the faux offended do-gooders who seem to be everywhere at the moment.

I was born in the wrong era, I wish I was born pre 1970’s. Honestly, some people are desperate to appear offended by something new all the time.

OP definitely sits on the toilet to take a piss.

I'm just looking and it's also not clear to me where the OP found any relation to racism and incorrect comment regarding skin colour. complete nonsense and an attempt to produce problems out of nothing. I'm not sure what the purpose of that is, to be honest, there are very few racist incidents on the forum here. either the moderators are doing their job well or I haven't noticed.
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So many snowflakes around these days. OP grow a fucking backbone & get on with your life. I don’t see anything remotely offensive in the screenshot. Seriously man up. I am so sick of the faux offended do-gooders who seem to be everywhere at the moment.

I was born in the wrong era, I wish I was born pre 1970’s. Honestly, some people are desperate to appear offended by something new all the time.

OP definitely sits on the toilet to take a piss.
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Cryptotourist is just busting their ballz on the BSV thread and the shills try to deflect and smear him back anyway they can. They ran out of technical arguments regarding which one is the "real" bitcoin, big blocks matter etc and started with this crap...

I would say this has been bumped enough IMO

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Problem with an inappropriate attitude that is an attack on a person with black skin on Bitcointalk

This is a large forum of about 3millions users which not all of them are as mature as you are or know how to chose their words properly, and to begin with Cryptotourist is a black dude, this alone is enough to tell you that he was actually making fun of the doctor and not his race. Right of speech is not moderated on the forum, the use of the words " fck u, assholes, idiot" has nothing to do with the forum. This is a compliment compared to the ones we see on the reputation board daily. I'm back and this is not a racism comment.
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We have seen countless of dramas here especially when you go to the Reputation Board, and these kind of insults has been one of the topics, it's not appropriate  for a ban, as the only thing you can do here is to ignore the guy.

Sad but true.  At least it's easy to ignore that sort of ignorance.  I've seen a lot worse get left unmoderated though.  Considering there's no personal information, doesn't seem to be any lies (just ignorance), and it's happening on forum, the best thing to do is probably ignore the user.  When people start posting personal information, spreading lies, and harassing users both on and off the forum, that's where it becomes an issue with me, and even in that case (Vod) the user never had any action taken against them by the Administration so I am certain nothing will be done here.
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That was certainly inappropriate but I don't think it was cause he's black.
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These days it's actually a fair question to verify who a person is in any given promotion being touted on this Forum.

An image search done by me just now confirms the identity of the person in question:

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Screen shot from the OP's quote:



Identical image found on this page:  https://www.crunchbase.com/person/chris-gibbons-2 - Archive [1a] [1b]






HOWEVER - asking the question in the form that the OP has identified I feel is not appropriate as the most simple of searches confirms the persons' identity and therefore profession.
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Wow that is definitely not okay. Did you report him?

I think the moderators will pick up on this thread and take appropriate actions.

It is 2021, racism shouldn't be tolerated anywhere on this world, online or offline.
In addition to your post, I don't think racism can be possible here on the forum for the fact that everyone in the ecosystem are chatting and no video of oneself or pictures that can tells if a person is white or black.... Conclusively from the above topic , mod can't be applied as a result that racism are not moderated.
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People now are so sensitive and get offended so easy. Sometimes even if you say something without any bad intentions, someone still can get offended.
I don't see racism in that post. Is it not allowed to say something bad about person just because he is black? If someone would said same thing about white or Asian guy, probably you wouldn't pay attention to such post.
I hope it won't turn into BLM Bitcointalk edition...
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Racism is not against the forum rules. I don't know anybody that got banned for being racist yet. If you don't like to read a particular person, you can always put him/her on your ignore list.

Grow a thicker shell.
That's right, because racism doesn't violate forum rule, it is certain that there is a possibility that it will hit the heart of men or women who don't have Captain America's shield. LOL

Forums do not act to prevent racism from happening to certain individual because this is not the same court as in the real world. I think ignoring certain users who are being racist is enough to solve this problem for the OP.
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She is a doctor, but to me that is not the face and body I have in my mind when I think of health, fitness, or nutrition.

Maybe she is a terrific physician and looks the way she does due to health problems, but my first impression wouldn't be this is a doctor and health enthusiast. 
Sorry I missed your post and only saw it now that this thread got bumped.  I've seen doctors who smoke and one who weighs over 400lbs.  You don't have to be a "health enthusiast" in order to be an effective physician, though I would admit that being severely overweight doesn't exactly set a great example for patients. 

Santosh didn't created it for a particular race
Ah, it got bumped by a complete shitposter.  Makes sense now.

Grow a thicker shell.
That should be stickied on every single page on bitcointalk--along with a bitcoin price ticker.  Maybe with the new forum software; I'm sure Theymos is hard at work implementing all of that.
legendary
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Racism is not against the forum rules. I don't know anybody that got banned for being racist yet. If you don't like to read a particular person, you can always put him/her on your ignore list.

Grow a thicker shell.
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I myself have always thought that “Dr” Craig Wright does not have a “Dr” look.  Is it racist of me to notice that he looks like a two-bit sleazy grifter?

Check out the facial physiognomy of “Dr” Faketoshi and his weasel-faced retinue:

Doctor Craig Satoshi
fresh-scrubbed and dolled up as best he can manage,
showing credentials, looking confident,
surrounded by a retinue (see also):

^. That face ...... is a ....... doctor? Roll Eyes

Forget about “Dr”.  Would you buy a used car from someone who looks like that!?



My such observation may be racist, because Craig Wright is Australian.  Thus, he is the probably the descendant of some thieves and scammers who were sentenced to “transportation”, way back when Australia was a penal colony.  Think about it:  His ancestors may have been involuntarily relocated across the oceans to another continent, kept in chains, used for labour.

kna, am I racist against Australians?  I don’t hate Australians—not all of them!  There are some good ones—well, theoretically, I guess there may be some good ones.  And they are not as bad as Americans, who descend a very long way from the misfit dregs of all Europe.

Will thermos now bane me for offence to Aussies and/or fat, stupid, uncultured, abysmally degenerate Muricans?  Cry
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@kna, your master should have used a short leash on you girl!

Actually, you can also take it as the user is referring the profile created for the project is fake because most of the projects works in that way but only the user who commented on that can give on what context he posted a comment like that.

I did. Nigerian Prince look. Maybe I should have used C&C look. It's the same look, and they're white, and my favorite SV scammer would not have been insulted.
Wait, he wasn't, he's too thick. He just saw an angle and decided to exploit it.


Perhaps it's because the guy really looks like an imbecile, perhaps because he thinks the vaccination program is just propaganda, who knows. You're the one who started to think about black.

Thanks, finally. Total imbecile, and/or shitty "doctor" - much like the other "doctor".


It is not actually a racism but a pure bully and judgemental act of that user.

I do take pride in that. Call me an SV bully, yo. Grin



This thread got my attention only last night. I don't wonder off around the forum anymore, and rather post only in a few threads.

Please be kind to kna. He is special. Kiss



Thank you all.
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What do you think? What can the moderators do here? Ban him this user?

Eh, just look what you started:

^. That face ...... is a ....... doctor? Roll Eyes

Good luck tracking your assholes, yo.
What's your problem @Cryptotourist! Because this doctor has black skin? Do you realize how disgusting your attitude is?

(((Blockstream))) seems kind of Jewish to me.  I mean, some of the people there look very Jewy.  And (((Segwit))) is basically a Jew accounting trick that counts big blocks as small blocks, and underweights certain bytes for fee calculations; it is just like how a Jew accountant makes numbers shrink to help you save on taxes.

Do you have a problem with that!?  Do you realize how disgusting your attitude is?!?!?

BSV IS ANTISEMITIC!!  I DEMAND THAT IT MUST BE BANED FROM TEH INTERNETS!!!!!

My proof that you and your cronies are antisemitic is at least good as your proof that Cryptotourist is racist.  Accordingly, please promptly disconnect yourself from the Internet, and turn yourself in to the hate speech police.



Too many people are caught up in a misdirection:  Dissecting what Cryptotourist really meant, or whether kna is “the real racist” for reading his own racism into what Cryptotourist said, etc.

That is how such creatures as kna lead you down the garden path...  Don’t let kna frame the argument.  Question the premises!

This Meta thread is utterly moronic, because this forum has no policy of banning people for (real or imaginary) racist statements.  And nobody has pointed out that this is completely wrong:

Freedom of expression is fine, but discriminatory measures and attacks on the person are all forms of offences that have as their motivation or effect to harm the physical or psychological integrity of others is clearly justiciable and can lead to financial penalties, so Bitcointalk could "have" a certain "responsibility" by letting this kind of behavior repeated without the slightest distancing, sanction, penalty undertaken against users who do not respect the law.

WRONG.  Racist speech is not illegal in the United States; it is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Although Americans are lamentably fat, and their country is horrible, they have two good features:  Their First Amendment, and their Second Amendment.  That First Amendment makes the U.S. a pretty good place for hosting websites that allow a diverse range of opinions.

This website is operated from, and physically located in, the jurisdiction of the United States.  Therefore, please feel free to kindly fuck off with your Craig Wright tier mentally retarded pseudolegal nonsense.


Quoted out of context because it’s funnier this way:
Are you sure you're not a racist?

No.  Actually, I am quite racist.  I think that white people are a genetically defective inferior race.  The proof is that they are cowards who fear being called racist; and they fear it so much that they will give away their money, their countries, and their children to avoid it.  They also have inferior logical reasoning skills, so they cannot understand how stupid this is.  I am glad that I am not white, so I do not share their racial defects.

Any other questions?  Smiley
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Problem with an inappropriate attitude that is an attack on a person with black skin on Bitcointalk



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bsv-bitcoin-sv-original-satoshi-vision-4985868

What do you think? What can the moderators do here? Ban him this user?






Lol thanks that was funny.

Are you sure you're not a racist?

Why would you assume the negative comment there refers to his skin color?

It's very racist that you make such an assumption. Do you view black skin as a negative?  Is his race a negative for you?

Mods should ban you because I suspect you're a closet racist and you want to be held to your own standards I'm sure.

Now that you've outted yourself as a racist and as a hater of free speech. You should held to your own standards and banned.

If he thinks that guys face is an unlikely candidate for a phd then that is his opinion. Maybe be hes an expert in correlating facial maps to IQ?  

I mean to you personally gibbons may appear super smart. That's your opinion and I dont care about it really. Since you're clearly a moron.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion until it encourages and promotes actual harm to another.

The only strong argument for racism is the racism you're inadvertently demonstrating.  

Sick and tired of the racism claims to prevent any opinion being voiced.

He thinks the guy doesn't look like a doctor ....that's fine. Let him think what he wants.
If he was white and the same comment was voiced. Would you claim racism? If not think about that.   
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I agree with Loyce, it's how we perceive things that makes up our side of the story, a person has more identity than just his skin color or religion and criticising a person always doesn't mean insulting his skin color or faith or anything, a person can be insulted for any number of reason and identities and it's upto us how we look at it. Plus, if something really offends you, it's better to just ignore than to feed on it as it will only mentally torture you, none harms the offender.
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Freedom of expression is fine, but discriminatory measures and attacks on the person are all forms of offences that have as their motivation or effect to harm the physical or psychological integrity of others is clearly justiciable and can lead to financial penalties, so Bitcointalk could "have" a certain "responsibility" by letting this kind of behavior repeated without the slightest distancing, sanction, penalty undertaken against users who do not respect the law.

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It is outrageous to read such behavior, as if this forum is a vent for repeated insults (see its user history https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptotourist-2461690) slander, disrespect are very often invoked.
I don't even know how people get offended by such remarks. If someone or a troll makes such remarks, just ignore them and see if it will break a single bone in your body.

This is the internet and worse still. It is a forum full of anonymous individuals. Why would you feel bad or affected just because some random individual who doesn't even know you just made what you felt like was an insult?

Everyone reacts differently, its his freedom too but as they suggest get yourself used to it.

If you find it offensive then attacking back is an option for you kna, you don't get an apology here by saying it's racism when the guy just doesn't express clearly what he just say. He must have doubt he is a doctor and I mean looks could be deceiving we all know that.
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