Topic: Problems with bitcoin-24.com WARNING! UPDATE! - page 16. (Read 38714 times)
I really wish he would release our bitcoins. Let the Euros stay for a few days/weeks. But need the BTC now.
Does someone one where this guy Simon lives?
I can't seem to figure why doesn't he allows bitcoin withdrawals, this shouldn't be a problem whether his bank account is closed or not.
BEWARE people he might be a scammer, if he wasn't he would have allowed us to withdraw our bitcoins.
This situation is damn serious, this was the biggest euro market.
And now we're learning that this huge stockmarket was controlled by a youngster with no freaking experience!
I can't seem to figure why doesn't he allows bitcoin withdrawals, this shouldn't be a problem whether his bank account is closed or not.
BEWARE people he might be a scammer, if he wasn't he would have allowed us to withdraw our bitcoins.
This situation is damn serious, this was the biggest euro market.
And now we're learning that this huge stockmarket was controlled by a youngster with no freaking experience!
DO NOT TRUST THE BY AN NEW POSTER ANNOUNCED "ALPHA" OF BTC24
IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE TRYING TO SCAM PPL
What the above meant to say was "Do NOT enter your BTC24 username and password here: alpha.bitcoin-24x.com because it's a phishing scam meant to steal your money, it's NOT a new website created by Simon Hausdorf." IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE TRYING TO SCAM PPL
If he is a scammer then what purpose does it serve to continue to post updates? He has the money and the BTC so what more would he need?
Well I am not saying he IS a scammer but Pirate for example provided "updates" for weeks before running away with the funds. It is a psychological trick used to let someone down slowly. At day 0 of the scam so many people are active and highly pissed off all it takes is one to track you down and feed you a brick to ruin your day. But as the weeks role by as the victims hold out hope slowly they get use to the idea they have lost their funds and move on.
DO NOT TRUST THE BY AN NEW POSTER ANNOUNCED "ALPHA" OF BTC24
IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE TRYING TO SCAM PPL
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c7utl/bitcoin24com_the_polish_authority_closed_your_our/c9f9fcp
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CHECK IF POSTET IN OTHER RELATED THREADS, IF NOT, DO SO
IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE TRYING TO SCAM PPL
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c7utl/bitcoin24com_the_polish_authority_closed_your_our/c9f9fcp
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CHECK IF POSTET IN OTHER RELATED THREADS, IF NOT, DO SO
If he is a scammer then what purpose does it serve to continue to post updates? He has the money and the BTC so what more would he need?
I love FUDders, don't you? They always help resolve tricky situations so much faster...
Copy-paste from his last message in reddit
So yeah, he is already preparing ground to make everybody wait for three months. "Just wait", typical scammer strategy, make everybody wait until the eventually loose hope of getting back what would be rightfully theirs.
He is already "giving promises" but people don't want promises, they want their money.
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Little Update! As some of you know, I had some problems with the German bank accounts in the past. I have solved the problem with moving to Poland and we had also never problems with them.
Why does this all happen? The "Deutsche Bank" in Germany had some phishing attacks / hacker and some funds where send to my bank account. This attacks does not stop on the "Deutsche Bank", because it seems, that it is a very stupid bank! So they closed my bank accounts in Germany and I got an invite from the German police, to tell them, what I am doing. After that I had no problems but my Bank accounts where closed. (this all happen in the start time of bitcoin-24)
In my opinion the problems where fixed. I moved to poland and make all business on the BZWBK. The Germans are now fighting against me and the "Deutsche Bank" has still the same problems, that people are sending me money from stolen bank accounts! THATS NOT MY PROBLEM! The only thing I can do now is to not accept payments from the "Deutsche Bank".
The Germans think now, that I am trying to get money with this methode. So they look now, where I have money and try to close all bank accounts.
Why in Poland? The Germans think, I am a criminal guy and they will stop the crime. They asked the poland for help and they closed my bank account in poland.
I have 7 days to make something against this, otherwise my bank account will be closed for the next 3 month! I am very sure, that we can get back the bank account in the next time. I will not give you a promise, but it is possible, that I will get back the bank account in the next week.
(sorry for my bad english)
Why does this all happen? The "Deutsche Bank" in Germany had some phishing attacks / hacker and some funds where send to my bank account. This attacks does not stop on the "Deutsche Bank", because it seems, that it is a very stupid bank! So they closed my bank accounts in Germany and I got an invite from the German police, to tell them, what I am doing. After that I had no problems but my Bank accounts where closed. (this all happen in the start time of bitcoin-24)
In my opinion the problems where fixed. I moved to poland and make all business on the BZWBK. The Germans are now fighting against me and the "Deutsche Bank" has still the same problems, that people are sending me money from stolen bank accounts! THATS NOT MY PROBLEM! The only thing I can do now is to not accept payments from the "Deutsche Bank".
The Germans think now, that I am trying to get money with this methode. So they look now, where I have money and try to close all bank accounts.
Why in Poland? The Germans think, I am a criminal guy and they will stop the crime. They asked the poland for help and they closed my bank account in poland.
I have 7 days to make something against this, otherwise my bank account will be closed for the next 3 month! I am very sure, that we can get back the bank account in the next time. I will not give you a promise, but it is possible, that I will get back the bank account in the next week.
(sorry for my bad english)
So yeah, he is already preparing ground to make everybody wait for three months. "Just wait", typical scammer strategy, make everybody wait until the eventually loose hope of getting back what would be rightfully theirs.
He is already "giving promises" but people don't want promises, they want their money.
Possibly, but by this time he should have found the opportunity to give some concentrated info, not just another "random answers" on reddit. I for one would like to know about the status of the comerzbank account since I have 1500 euro arriving there tomorrow. Is it frozen? transaction limit? When can we expect refunds? etc.....
New update from Simon on reddit. Did not get much wiser. http://www.reddit.com/user/TAiS46/
That's good news IMHO. The case that Deutsche Bank has on him seems much thinner (albeit still a serious issue) than all the speculation and FUD that has been going around would have had us believe. Amidst all this I've actually found that Simon is an all right chap.. Although maybe a little naïve when it comes to legal issues.
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I have a serious problem with this site.
They have locked in my coins and apparently others dont get their SEPA payments.
I would strongly suggest you stay away from that place until I have sorted this out.
Admin have answered only after 5 days, and promised to fix, BUT, Nothing happens and no answer.
No answer at ANY address!
This is serious and I welcome any help.
They have locked in my coins and apparently others dont get their SEPA payments.
I would strongly suggest you stay away from that place until I have sorted this out.
Admin have answered only after 5 days, and promised to fix, BUT, Nothing happens and no answer.
No answer at ANY address!
This is serious and I welcome any help.
Has this been resolved yet?
New update from Simon on reddit. Did not get much wiser. http://www.reddit.com/user/TAiS46/
The alarming thing is he hasn't mentioned a single thing about BTC (or the lack of BTC due to double trading). If there is no issue with the BTC then open the site up to only allow withdraw of BTC. Simple. Suddenly the average exposure for most users is cut in half. I would also be a good faith effort.
The fact that he hasn't done this (and has from his limited responses just ignored the concept of BTC completely) is suspicious. My guess (just a total guess based on prior history)
a) he can't because BTC owed is > BTC available. If true he should announce that now. It has nothing to do w/ frozen Euros so get the truth out in the open.
b) he doesn't intend on returning the BTC. If true I hope some users in Germany have good lawyers.
The fact that he hasn't done this (and has from his limited responses just ignored the concept of BTC completely) is suspicious. My guess (just a total guess based on prior history)
a) he can't because BTC owed is > BTC available. If true he should announce that now. It has nothing to do w/ frozen Euros so get the truth out in the open.
b) he doesn't intend on returning the BTC. If true I hope some users in Germany have good lawyers.
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You're not the only one.
If you read all the threads on it here and on reddit you'll see he's not disappeared and is working on it. Don't do anything that is going to slow him down.
I have more to lose than you do but i dont see what other option we really have at this point.
If you read all the threads on it here and on reddit you'll see he's not disappeared and is working on it. Don't do anything that is going to slow him down.
I have more to lose than you do but i dont see what other option we really have at this point.
Exactly, there is nothing productive for us to do if we want our money back.
I'm starting to think TCollar is better ignored for now because he likes to spread FUD about this situation a little bit too much. Rational people know it's better to just wait and see what happens during the next work week rather than sling mud at Simon on this topic.
OK.
I am sure everything will be fine on Monday. The 24 year old DJ turned international money trader will sort stuff out because that is what DJs turned financiers are best at doing.
I'm starting to think TCollar is better ignored for now because he likes to spread FUD about this situation a little bit too much. Rational people know it's better to just wait and see what happens during the next work week rather than sling mud at Simon on this topic.
OMG you guys must be kidding me ??
I had a few hundreds of euros on there. not a huge deal. But i had 400 bitcoins on it too
My frigging' life savings.
He's not replying to my e-mail and it's more than 30 hours passed.
I want my 400 BTC back asap!
Can anyone PM me this guy his details, i am gonna sue him, i'm taking this serious, this is a shitload of money!
What do you guys think will happen?? OK, money maybe frozen, but the btc must be in there, if not, i will sue this guy.
Thanks to everyone who can help me.
I had a few hundreds of euros on there. not a huge deal. But i had 400 bitcoins on it too
My frigging' life savings.He's not replying to my e-mail and it's more than 30 hours passed.
I want my 400 BTC back asap!
Can anyone PM me this guy his details, i am gonna sue him, i'm taking this serious, this is a shitload of money!
What do you guys think will happen?? OK, money maybe frozen, but the btc must be in there, if not, i will sue this guy.
Thanks to everyone who can help me.
You're not the only one.
If you read all the threads on it here and on reddit you'll see he's not disappeared and is working on it. Don't do anything that is going to slow him down.
I have more to lose than you do but i dont see what other option we really have at this point.
OMG you guys must be kidding me ??
I had a few hundreds of euros on there. not a huge deal. But i had 400 bitcoins on it too My frigging' life savings.
He's not replying to my e-mail and it's more than 30 hours passed.
I want my 400 BTC back asap!
Can anyone PM me this guy his details, i am gonna sue him, i'm taking this serious, this is a shitload of money!
What do you guys think will happen?? OK, money maybe frozen, but the btc must be in there, if not, i will sue this guy.
Thanks to everyone who can help me.
I had a few hundreds of euros on there. not a huge deal. But i had 400 bitcoins on it too
My frigging' life savings.He's not replying to my e-mail and it's more than 30 hours passed.
I want my 400 BTC back asap!
Can anyone PM me this guy his details, i am gonna sue him, i'm taking this serious, this is a shitload of money!
What do you guys think will happen?? OK, money maybe frozen, but the btc must be in there, if not, i will sue this guy.
Thanks to everyone who can help me.
So his only contact with people is his one way conduit of information on Reddit?
I suspect the eventual outcome will be this:
Everything is so horribly wrong that the only outcome is that I keep everything. Sorry. In the mean time please read my reddit posts so that you may replace your anger at me with pity.
I predict that other bitcoin based "financial services" will end up like this soon too. So if any of you who moved on from say Anime Enthusiast who did some php programming on the side to trading virtual currency to Ringgit and are worried about facing the death penalty in whatever Confucian country you based your business out of, you may either want to:
1. Run. Drop shop, keep on posting reassuring things about how you are running into technical problems because bitcoins are so awesome and they should be fixed by the time your plane lands in Paraguay your upstream provider resolves the glitch.
2. PM me. I work with financial modeling. I will give you free advice (which will be how to hire and find a competent person to fix your site) or I will give you my own rates (I am expensive).
I expect most of you to run, and perhaps consider Paraguay for the first time after reading it here.
I suspect the eventual outcome will be this:
Everything is so horribly wrong that the only outcome is that I keep everything. Sorry. In the mean time please read my reddit posts so that you may replace your anger at me with pity.
I predict that other bitcoin based "financial services" will end up like this soon too. So if any of you who moved on from say Anime Enthusiast who did some php programming on the side to trading virtual currency to Ringgit and are worried about facing the death penalty in whatever Confucian country you based your business out of, you may either want to:
1. Run. Drop shop, keep on posting reassuring things about how you are running into technical problems because bitcoins are so awesome and they should be fixed by the time
2. PM me. I work with financial modeling. I will give you free advice (which will be how to hire and find a competent person to fix your site) or I will give you my own rates (I am expensive).
I expect most of you to run, and perhaps consider Paraguay for the first time after reading it here.
The situation looks quite ugly, even if there are people in government to help him. Lets hope for the best !
The situation could turn out quite ugly also for the users. Everyone who sent the money to or from that account is now connected with an account suspected to be used for money laundering. Not fun Jump to: