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September 08, 2016, 07:03:31 AM
#46
I think zebpay is really good as it comes with app version but lack desktop version but soon they will add it.zebpay deposit and withdraw system is quick too and best part is the flexibility of adding your identity proof to buy/sell bitcoin.
sr. member
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July 19, 2016, 02:38:50 AM
#45
Ok
One question.
Can we cash deposit into your bank account for buying bitcoins?
yes but its depend most people accept cash deposit for as exchange for bitcoin and most don't accept for security reason.i found zebpay don't accept cash deposit in bank.
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July 10, 2016, 04:18:17 AM
#44
Ok
One question.
Can we cash deposit into your bank account for buying bitcoins?
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June 06, 2016, 11:10:43 PM
#43
It is not always possible to even have a traditional identity behind a bitcoin transaction.

The concept of alter-egos; Mere kayi chehre hain.
I am different when I am gaming online, different for my family & professionally, different person when I am hacking, different person when I am eating beef...etc.
I want to keep these identities separate and anonymous.
I don't want to give my identity while buying a pornographic/satanist/religious-extremism/etc book or magazine because it will jeopardize my identities elsewhere, though all of these are legal.

Sir you have only witnessed earth for 0-70 years and you think this is how the world has always been working.
When publishing came to be widespread, only adults above the age of 25 with a license could enter a library.
Now even a kid has access to all sort of filth as well as intelligent information through internet.
Is it all goody goody? No. But definitely access to information is more good for society than bad.
Same like any technology. It has its negatives but does more good than bad.

Anonymous transactions facilitates some bad use-cases, but does more good than bad.
Minorities can now buy stuff (eg their religious books) without the fear of being identified and killed.

What is identity?
Smiley
Before 2009 there had to be humans being behind a transaction. Even if it was a computer, the transaction was by the owner of that computer.
In India only humans or group of collaborating humans (corporations) are supposed to hold wealth.

Now, non-humans can have wealth.
Non humans can collaborate and form DAOs.

Also I will argue that you can't define a human being's identity.
My body parts are not me; I could have a complete plastic surgery.
My thoughts are not me; I could go crazy.
My social interactions are not me; I can go crazy, burn my skin and land up on an island & still be me.
My history is not me; in the digital world two objects can be exactly alike and just reffered by their enumerations.
My biological configuration is not me; all of the cells in my body change every 10 years.
My credentials are not me; easily faked (& mostly non-unique).

Anyways, it will become clear to you when you see DAOs in real life (and not that ether shit, the DAO as defined in computer science).

I can ascertain that this post enlightens the concept of Bitcoin and its anonymity and various such services on the Internet.
legendary
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June 05, 2016, 05:54:37 PM
#42


About your second point, I don't "trade" per se, but I always "use" bitcoin anonymously.
I am a criminal in the face of law (for example I have committed the crime of not reporting a 50Rs note to police, as per our lawbooks)
But for the general public, I am not a criminal, yet I will always use bitcoin anonymously or publicly, as I wish to, same as with any barter.
And no it is not clear this is criminal. It is clear that barter is legal in India.

yes,i do think so.because trading gold is not illegal so then why bitcoin would be.gold is goods,bitcoin is digital goods too.people  also can store black money after storing gold.
right?
Government can contol supply,import and exports of gold which it can't do with bitcoin.Bitcoin is a currency and most governments are reluctant to allow a parallel currency
sr. member
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June 05, 2016, 01:50:22 AM
#41


About your second point, I don't "trade" per se, but I always "use" bitcoin anonymously.
I am a criminal in the face of law (for example I have committed the crime of not reporting a 50Rs note to police, as per our lawbooks)
But for the general public, I am not a criminal, yet I will always use bitcoin anonymously or publicly, as I wish to, same as with any barter.
And no it is not clear this is criminal. It is clear that barter is legal in India.

yes,i do think so.because trading gold is not illegal so then why bitcoin would be.gold is goods,bitcoin is digital goods too.people  also can store black money after storing gold.
right?
sr. member
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June 04, 2016, 09:05:17 AM
#40
It is not always possible to even have a traditional identity behind a bitcoin transaction.

The concept of alter-egos; Mere kayi chehre hain.
I am different when I am gaming online, different for my family & professionally, different person when I am hacking, different person when I am eating beef...etc.
I want to keep these identities separate and anonymous.
I don't want to give my identity while buying a pornographic/satanist/religious-extremism/etc book or magazine because it will jeopardize my identities elsewhere, though all of these are legal.

Sir you have only witnessed earth for 0-70 years and you think this is how the world has always been working.
When publishing came to be widespread, only adults above the age of 25 with a license could enter a library.
Now even a kid has access to all sort of filth as well as intelligent information through internet.
Is it all goody goody? No. But definitely access to information is more good for society than bad.
Same like any technology. It has its negatives but does more good than bad.

Anonymous transactions facilitates some bad use-cases, but does more good than bad.
Minorities can now buy stuff (eg their religious books) without the fear of being identified and killed.

What is identity?
Smiley
Before 2009 there had to be humans being behind a transaction. Even if it was a computer, the transaction was by the owner of that computer.
In India only humans or group of collaborating humans (corporations) are supposed to hold wealth.

Now, non-humans can have wealth.
Non humans can collaborate and form DAOs.

Also I will argue that you can't define a human being's identity.
My body parts are not me; I could have a complete plastic surgery.
My thoughts are not me; I could go crazy.
My social interactions are not me; I can go crazy, burn my skin and land up on an island & still be me.
My history is not me; in the digital world two objects can be exactly alike and just reffered by their enumerations.
My biological configuration is not me; all of the cells in my body change every 10 years.
My credentials are not me; easily faked (& mostly non-unique).

Anyways, it will become clear to you when you see DAOs in real life (and not that ether shit, the DAO as defined in computer science).
legendary
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June 04, 2016, 06:12:07 AM
#39
Moreover unless one is upto something illegal,why would he want to be anonymous is beyond my comprehension

Really??
What if your wife cant conceive and you don't want to disclose that?
What if you have a mental disease and don't want the stigma?
What if you are genetically gay but happen to be born in a society that doesn't accept it?
What if you are a minority in a rioting area?
What if you are a whistleblower?

I can keep going but if it is still beyond your comprehension then it is, well, beyond your comprehension.


If you are deliberately concealing some information which you should disclose, is a crime.It is a personal choice and nobody's business whether you want to disclose your wife's pregnancy or your sexual orientation but keeping yourself anonymous in some business deal or anything that involves two or more person is different.
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Companies keep trade secrets.
Companies keep their IP and
processes secret. And private
companies also keep their finances
secret.
You are confusing secrecy with anonymity both are different.
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I am a criminal in the face of law (for
example I have committed the crime of
not reporting a 50Rs note to police, as
per our lawbooks)
But for the general public, I am not a
criminal, yet I will always use bitcoin
anonymously or publicly, as I wish to,
same as with any barter.
And no it is not clear this is criminal. It
is clear that barter is legal in India.
The question is if law enforcement agencies wants you to disclose your identity in some case for ex bitcoin transaction,and you are reluctant,It is wrong
sr. member
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June 04, 2016, 05:58:14 AM
#38
If you are deliberately concealing some information which you should disclose, is a crime.It is a personal choice and nobody's business whether you want to disclose your wife's pregnancy or your sexual orientation but keeping yourself anonymous in some business deal or anything that involves two or more person is different.

No sir it is not.
Please read my comment just above your comment.
legendary
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June 04, 2016, 05:52:15 AM
#37
Moreover unless one is upto something illegal,why would he want to be anonymous is beyond my comprehension

Really??
What if your wife cant conceive and you don't want to disclose that?
What if you have a mental disease and don't want the stigma?
What if you are genetically gay but happen to be born in a society that doesn't accept it?
What if you are a minority in a rioting area?
What if you are a whistleblower?

I can keep going but if it is still beyond your comprehension then it is, well, beyond your comprehension.


If you are deliberately concealing some information which you should disclose, is a crime.It is a personal choice and nobody's business whether you want to disclose your wife's pregnancy or your sexual orientation but keeping yourself anonymous in some business deal or anything that involves two or more person is different.
sr. member
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June 04, 2016, 04:41:40 AM
#36
sorry to be rude but your statement is useless and spare. these all material you mentioned is no longer attached to business area.
yes this is true that if someone's wife is conceive but he don't want to disclose it.do you take both are same?
one things is already clear this is criminal through to be anonymous while bitcoin trading.
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Since by being useful you want use cases related to business area, I'll give you that.
The rationale applies to business areas too.
Companies keep trade secrets. Companies keep their IP and processes secret. And private companies also keep their finances secret.

There used to be a time when the standard of success for a company was taking it to an IPO. Now if you want to go public the default is, why?
Private companies like Tesla will be the norm in future. (And already is in tech hubs like silicon valley and singapore)
Companies are now private for longer and longer period of time and there is really less advantage than disadvantage to going disclosing anything.


About your second point, I don't "trade" per se, but I always "use" bitcoin anonymously.
I am a criminal in the face of law (for example I have committed the crime of not reporting a 50Rs note to police, as per our lawbooks)
But for the general public, I am not a criminal, yet I will always use bitcoin anonymously or publicly, as I wish to, same as with any barter.
And no it is not clear this is criminal. It is clear that barter is legal in India.
sr. member
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June 03, 2016, 10:54:02 PM
#35
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposit or auto withdrawal? I suggest Indian exchanges should support adding funds with debit cards too besides imps/neft etc as debit card funding would be instant and can be done 24x7
We cannot really support this unless the transaction fee by debit card processors reduce to less than say 0.5% which is unlikely to happen over long run.
yes but i have an idea in my mind.let's provide two option for buying bitcoin in your exchange.
instant buy
usually buy

when someone want to buy instantly the fees will be high(mostly people will be ready to pay if they need immediately. )in instantly buy also mention there why price are high.
and in usually let it be old.

how this idea it may attract people?

We have this in our mind already through mobile wallet providers and are working with them to check the possibility. Smiley
well..possibility is 100% positive.i am also a small trader and seen many peoples want bitcoin immediately.also they don't care about price.so we can play on, on theirs requirements.
i suggest you to add this extra feature on your service.
legendary
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June 03, 2016, 10:47:49 PM
#34
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposit or auto withdrawal? I suggest Indian exchanges should support adding funds with debit cards too besides imps/neft etc as debit card funding would be instant and can be done 24x7
We cannot really support this unless the transaction fee by debit card processors reduce to less than say 0.5% which is unlikely to happen over long run.
yes but i have an idea in my mind.let's provide two option for buying bitcoin in your exchange.
instant buy
usually buy

when someone want to buy instantly the fees will be high(mostly people will be ready to pay if they need immediately. )in instantly buy also mention there why price are high.
and in usually let it be old.

how this idea it may attract people?

We have this in our mind already through mobile wallet providers and are working with them to check the possibility. Smiley
legendary
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June 03, 2016, 04:35:19 PM
#33
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposit or auto withdrawal? I suggest Indian exchanges should support adding funds with debit cards too besides imps/neft etc as debit card funding would be instant and can be done 24x7
We cannot really support this unless the transaction fee by debit card processors reduce to less than say 0.5% which is unlikely to happen over long run.
yes but i have an idea in my mind.let's provide two option for buying bitcoin in your exchange.
instant buy
usually buy

when someone want to buy instantly the fees will be high(mostly people will be ready to pay if they need immediately. )in instantly buy also mention there why price are high.
and in usually let it be old.

how this idea it may attract people?
Excellent idea.I think this will work fine because sometimes all of us wants to but immediately and at that time we wont mind paying some fee due to urgency.In normal circumstances,free of charge neft/imps will be ok
sr. member
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June 03, 2016, 12:27:06 PM
#32
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposit or auto withdrawal? I suggest Indian exchanges should support adding funds with debit cards too besides imps/neft etc as debit card funding would be instant and can be done 24x7
We cannot really support this unless the transaction fee by debit card processors reduce to less than say 0.5% which is unlikely to happen over long run.
yes but i have an idea in my mind.let's provide two option for buying bitcoin in your exchange.
instant buy
usually buy

when someone want to buy instantly the fees will be high(mostly people will be ready to pay if they need immediately. )in instantly buy also mention there why price are high.
and in usually let it be old.

how this idea it may attract people?
legendary
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June 03, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
#31
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposit or auto withdrawal? I suggest Indian exchanges should support adding funds with debit cards too besides imps/neft etc as debit card funding would be instant and can be done 24x7
i know they can't avail this features to their customers because for doing this they have to add payment gaetway service.and payment getaway take 2-4% tax while receiving money in your bank.so btc rate will be increase 4% in exchange.then people will not prefer to give high amount because they can get same things in less than 4%.
thats it.
This is indeed very high fees.I hope they can workout some ways to make instant deposit

We are implementing something at the moment, but the fees will have to be taken up by the user.
There is no way we would swallow the fees, but we do have some nice deal with our provider that should help on larger deposits without the pinch of 2-4%
legendary
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June 03, 2016, 09:49:54 AM
#30
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposit or auto withdrawal? I suggest Indian exchanges should support adding funds with debit cards too besides imps/neft etc as debit card funding would be instant and can be done 24x7
i know they can't avail this features to their customers because for doing this they have to add payment gaetway service.and payment getaway take 2-4% tax while receiving money in your bank.so btc rate will be increase 4% in exchange.then people will not prefer to give high amount because they can get same things in less than 4%.
thats it.
you are just right
legendary
Activity: 1258
Merit: 1001
June 03, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
#29
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposit or auto withdrawal? I suggest Indian exchanges should support adding funds with debit cards too besides imps/neft etc as debit card funding would be instant and can be done 24x7
We cannot really support this unless the transaction fee by debit card processors reduce to less than say 0.5% which is unlikely to happen over long run.
legendary
Activity: 1258
Merit: 1001
June 03, 2016, 09:35:45 AM
#28
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposits are unlikely to happen. However we are trying on few relationships which can allow small quantities to be purchased instantly without going through bank deposit process - hoping they work out Smiley
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
June 03, 2016, 07:07:42 AM
#27
Our Bitcoin deposit need 3 confirmations and withdrawal are instant.
INR deposit and withdrawal takes up to 3 business hours.

Regards

Any plans to reduce the timing and also anything like auto deposit coming up soon?
Auto deposit or auto withdrawal? I suggest Indian exchanges should support adding funds with debit cards too besides imps/neft etc as debit card funding would be instant and can be done 24x7
i know they can't avail this features to their customers because for doing this they have to add payment gaetway service.and payment getaway take 2-4% tax while receiving money in your bank.so btc rate will be increase 4% in exchange.then people will not prefer to give high amount because they can get same things in less than 4%.
thats it.
This is indeed very high fees.I hope they can workout some ways to make instant deposit
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