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Topic: Profit for one investor means loss to the other one? (Read 308 times)

newbie
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Steps to eliminate the existing restrictions have already been outlined, and work is under way in this direction. Since launch, every aspect of the network has been in the process of continuous improvement, optimization and specialization
member
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Unfortunately, any financial system that everyone is winning together isn't possible. The cryptocurrency markets have the same delicate equilibrium. Prices have fluctuated to supply and demand. Of course, while the earliest taking an action is a winner, latecomers is always loser. It can't be any different.
jr. member
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Bitcoin trading come with it own risk and if you are not smart enough to calculate the market you may end up losing but when you are smart to know when to sell or hold then you will attain some level of profit, it also true that the lose of one means profit to another because if one does notblose the other will not gain.

I think this is the real experiences of a successful investors. Sometimes gain more, but sometimes loss many also. Just think that investing in bitcoin world is risky always. So, be in a strong determination when it comes to a decision. And be patient because there is always an opportunity to come to be able to grab for in the Cryto world market with a good and a profitable results, for no oneself will be loss.
legendary
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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
After the purchase of any item, profit or loss is understood. Any investor is investing for profit. Which may lead to loss or damage to the future. But it will be the profit of the real one to the other. So, the price of Bitcoin is the loss of one person's profit to other people.

While people trade crypto or anything else they look for profit - without profit they never came to the field of trading. Hence we cant think of net no money transfer when a trade happens. Obviously one person gains some money while another person loses some money. The difference is the timing and the decisive nature of placed orders if done correctly.

Yes that is how it goes , the money has to come from someone right. There is always that 1 person who buys on ath.

It often comes from many people not only a single person but there are methods by which cashing one persons buy order can be done specially or small volume exchanges.
full member
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- "Bitcore (BTX) - The Future is Now"
Yes that is how it goes , the money has to come from someone right. There is always that 1 person who buys on ath.
member
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All the profits we have come from the losses of other investors. When you get a profit means that someone has lost money in the crypto. If all investors are profitable, the market cannot survive. A down market says that it is trying to make a profit for the winners and make many losers.
legendary
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Trading crypto must be smarter than trading in other forms because of crypto price fluctuations that tend to be very active at all times. Then, when we buy a crypto and in the next few months the price of the crypto is decreasing and if we sell it will certainly lose it would be much better we hold the crypto until the price is high again and avoid the loss. We have to believe that the right time to sell crypto and make a profit will always come even if we do not know when it will surely come. But, rest assured that the annual price of crypto will continue to increase as the crypto investment enthusiasts continue to grow.
full member
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After the purchase of any item, profit or loss is understood. Any investor is investing for profit. Which may lead to loss or damage to the future. But it will be the profit of the real one to the other. So, the price of Bitcoin is the loss of one person's profit to other people.
member
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Whether it is true or not that in markets like Bitcoin (crypto) ; one person gains only when the other losses some thing.  Suppose one person bought one Bitcoin for $5000 in January 2017 and sells in June 2017 for suppose $10000 he gains $5000 by selling.  Now the purchaser in June 2017 @ $10000 sells it for $6000 in January 2018 and as a result  he losses $4000.  So it is clear from the example that the profit of seller in June which was $5000 includes the loss suffered by the person who bought it in June 2017 and sold in January 2018.
If there are some other reasons for this profit / loss factor, I request other members to please share their knowledge with the platform because my opinion may be on the basis of partial truth and there may be other factors responsible too.
it is not always like that as profit to one investor will be the loss to another.There are situations like crash or all time high,which gives equal opportunities to everyone and it's just one's smartness how you handle this opportunity.But Opportunities comes to brave one and who are ready to take risks.One who wants to trade safe has very limited opportunity as well as returns are also less.
hero member
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This can never be true in theory or the real world . if buyer A bought some coins at $1 and sold them to B for $2 then A has made a profit of $1 . when buyer B now decides to sell and based on market conditions sells for $5 dollars then he would have made a profit of $3, are you suggesting that buyer B made a profit at the expenses of buyer A, this can absolutely not be the case so to say "profit for one investor means loss to the other one" is in fact a statement that is not factual. both individuals come come out making profits.

There's just one flaw in your example: Who bought from Buyer B? Yes, Buyer A and Buyer B made profits, but in order for that to happen, there has to be a Buyer C (or D, E, F, etc.). Not all sellers will profit, as we all know that somebody that FOMO'd at $20k and then panic-sold at $10k, but that's just the nature of the game. And yes, this can absolutely be true in theory AND the real world. A prime example of this happening on a day-to-day basis? The stock market.
sr. member
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This can never be true in theory or the real world . if buyer A bought some coins at $1 and sold them to B for $2 then A has made a profit of $1 . when buyer B now decides to sell and based on market conditions sells for $5 dollars then he would have made a profit of $3, are you suggesting that buyer B made a profit at the expenses of buyer A, this can absolutely not be the case so to say "profit for one investor means loss to the other one" is in fact a statement that is not factual. both individuals come come out making profits.
hero member
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There are always winners and losers in every situation.  I guess it depends on your goal.  During the crash I was buying up ETN at levels I had predetermined for myself, down to 600 sats, few days later it was backup to 840~ sats, however my goal is to hold as much as possible, so those sellers may consider themselves 'winners' with their profit now, but hopefully in a few months, i'll be the winner.
sr. member
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That can never be correct not even in theory or as a general rule . An investor who purchased at 1 dollar and soled it for 2 dollars has gianed a profit on his investment. I
hero member
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This is no different than the way that the stock market operates. People buy and sell all the time, some at a profit, some at a loss. So while you are technically profiting from someone's loss, let's not forget that new bitcoins are being mined on a regular basis. While the cap maximum supply is limited, that hasn't been reached yet, so the circulating supply is growing on a daily basis.

I think this is what people want to believe as a "scam" when they hear about Bitcoin. That in order for you to profit, you have to sell for more than what you bought for. Here's the thing, and why I'm able to sleep at night playing the crypto market: I don't prey on new buyers. I don't make them pull the trigger in deciding when or what to buy. Just as in the stock market, buyers should do their due diligence and invest only what they believe is a good investment for them. Nobody is forcing these buyers to make their investments. So just as I think that it's a great thing that I bought in at $200, some new investors might think it's great that they are buying in now at $8k.
legendary
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Whether it is true or not that in markets like Bitcoin (crypto) ; one person gains only when the other losses some thing.  Suppose one person bought one Bitcoin for $5000 in January 2017 and sells in June 2017 for suppose $10000 he gains $5000 by selling.  Now the purchaser in June 2017 @ $10000 sells it for $6000 in January 2018 and as a result  he losses $4000.  So it is clear from the example that the profit of seller in June which was $5000 includes the loss suffered by the person who bought it in June 2017 and sold in January 2018.
If there are some other reasons for this profit / loss factor, I request other members to please share their knowledge with the platform because my opinion may be on the basis of partial truth and there may be other factors responsible too.
You are partially right but those who bought what someone sold can still profit in the future. The full truth is that, the Bitcoin is being passed from one user to another using a process called trading, which have two categories, the buy and selling. Bitcoin is being passed from the seller to the buyer and then the buyer later on can become the seller to pass it on to another person. The buyer can profit if he/she can sell it at a higher price.
Of course they can profit in the future, but only provided there is a an influx of fresh money into the system. At some point in the future there is no more people to sell to, you are the last holder of bitcoin and you must sell cheaper than you bought or you will not sell at all. At that point in the future bitcoin may be 20k or 100k or 1m, I do not know, the point is that you will kind-of pay for the money other guys before you have won.
You guys are discussing only about the trading of bitcoin.
You are completely ignoring the value that it derives from being used for (edit) buying other cryptos, having the most underlying infrastructure and having the most information and support out there for anyone who seriously wants to explore crypto.

The underlying value it derives from driving the crowdfunding requirements of so many startups and future companies is also being largely ignored.
Thats what gives it value and not just the people buying in for trading purposes or for getting rich quickly.
full member
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Both buyer and seller can make profit and there is a probability that both lose money. But for sure there are many people in cryptocurrecncies making money and also many people losing money. But I don't think the ratio is 1:1. I think the number of losers are much more than the number of winners. Because most of humans cannot be patient. The patient person gets several impatient person's money.
full member
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a sharp sword
sombody has to pay fot ur profit i guess
Stocks and penny stocks feature the same system, the investor will usually win until there is no one around to purchase the coins anymore and the one left holding loses money.
newbie
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 Actually it is not correct in a word. But it correct in another sense when the company progressless then profit for means loss for another person.
member
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Yes really a loss if the person sells it, but the reason what makes the person must sell loss.I think no one like that because to know bitcoin is an interesting investment and people who invest I think also know the way how he to play investment so not maybe he will sell a loss.
Bitcoin is always up and down but the graph rises bigger than the charts in the year, so it's unlikely anyone invests in bitcoin and sells a loss or does not make a profit.
member
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every time you are making a profit, well, it's some other peoples money - that's the way you make a profit.
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