Topic: Prohibiting Newbies from creating threads in Off Topic and Politics & Society - page 2. (Read 417 times)

I wouldn't be against those boards not counting towards activity either but there are also plenty of other boards that would then also meet the criteria such as Gambling Discussion (which is basically a board that was created due to shitposters being 'forced' by the signature campaigns to make x amount of posts in Gambling, hence why they started created threads to talk about every possible league and tournament of sport that is ever played. Either I'd be fine with but it might be easier just to prohibit certain ranks from posting as that's already happened in certain boards (the "Other languages" board for example where it's now not allowed for ranks lower than Senior to create threads there due to all the spam). As I said before as well, people can still have decent discussions in there but it's all the newbies that have drowned that out.

Although, I wouldn't be against your proposal here. I believe that sections such as Off topic and Politics & Society just shouldn't count towards activity. Any board which isn't directly related to Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency shouldn't count towards activity. I think this way it won't only prevent newbies from creating shit threads, but higher ranked members too. Preventing newbies from creating threads in these sections would only hinder them and they would just post there to rank up their accounts when they've passed the restrictions.

This is the exact reason why activity shouldn't be counted in the sections mentioned. They are a farming ground currently which is drowning out all of the legitimate discussion.

This would be an alternative solution rather than punishing everyone by getting rid of those boards altogether. I wouldn't be against removing them completely per se, but back when I signed up there used to be some decent discussions going on in Politics and Society. You could even have some decent threads in Off Topic but gradually those boards just got swamped by lazy shitposters and account farmers abusing them as easy fodder with shit threads to rank up. Stopping lower ranks from either being able to create threads in there or post altogether would soon clean them up and hopefully decent discussions would gradually come back.

I agree with this post, I wish y'all could get rid of off-topics period, and anything that does not have nothing to do with crypto.

Well that is one of the problems, but most people just use Off Topic and Politics to farm their accounts to even get onto a campaign. If campaign managers did their job properly then these sorts of users would never even be allowed onto the campaigns in the first place, but they obviously don't do their job hence why they need to face punishments. It's pointless banning signature spammers without tackling the root cause of it all.


Well that's down to theymos. The last he mentioned of it he didn't seem too keen on banning campaign managers for some reason. Maybe he's changed his mind but he did agree to blacklist problem campaigns signatures after some petitioning from staff, hence why the Signature Campaign Guidelines thread was created, but despite requesting several campaigns have their signatures blacklisted he never did so we're just back to square one.  

I support that proposal but don’t you think that wouldn’t be a problem if sig. campaigns managers didn’t hire such bullshit posters?

I remember you also proposed taking action against lazy campaign managers for not doing their job properly, and if that measure was implemented, it wouldn’t matter people posting crap on off-topic and politics boards because nobody would hire them.

I propose that we should strongly consider restricting Newbies from either being able to create threads in Off Topic and Politics & Society or from even being allowed to post in there at all. In fact, I don't think we should just restrict this to Newbies but maybe up until Full Member or something. It's pretty much standard practice now for new users to sign up here and head straight into Off Topic just to try spam their way through ranks because they either can't contribute anything else of substance or just can't be bothered doing so and it's much easier to post about your top ten Adam Sandler Movies or post in threads asking whether you prefer "this or that" or "x vs y" etc. Politics & Society has now met a similar fate and is favoured amongst spammers who join campaigns that don't pay for posts in Off Topic but they will in Politics, hence why we get dozens of "fake deep" threads created by kids every day proposing the most ridiculous of topics.

This is a bitcoin forum after all so I don't see any good reason why Newbies or lower ranks should even be allowed to post in or create threads in there because it just leads to abuse en mass. I think prohibiting them will put a stop to all this spam as it's just become unmanageable with the huge number of users signing up here just to rank up to earn from signature campaigns. Off Topic has been discussed and proposed to be removed from counting towards post-count/activity before and the quality of threads in there just gets worse day by day with more and more users signing up here just because they heard you can earn by posting. If you don't know anything about bitcoin where else are you going to post? I still think the only way we're ever going to put a stop to this is by removing signatures from ranks/activity somehow but if that's not going to happen then other restrictions need to be put in place. Here's just a small selection of the sort of threads I'm talking about that I've trashed the past week or so:


Off Topic threads:

Batman vs Ironman



SEX or CHOCOLATE



How long do you take to have SEX?


Tell me how tall you are


How much do you weigh?


Favorite porn category?



What time do you have to wake up for work?


Update your status today


Do You Watched TV Daily?


What's on your mind about water ?  


WHAT'S YOUR NAME?



What is your favorite Household Chores?



Politics and Society:

Which do you prefer? Beach or Malls?


Pork



how does bitcoin look like ?


furture life



Evolution or Creation ?



How Much You Give to Your Religion?


What would you prefer? Premarital sex or Sex after Marriage?


Time or Gold?


bitcoin make you rich?


Will Trump support Bitcoin?


do you love your mother?



Do you believe in Angels?



Your Wife/GF/BF or Bitcoin?  



I think some of these threads really tell you the age of users signing up here and dozens of them are created every day and are immediately swarmed by shitposters frothing at another thread they can easily post in. I really don't think there is any good reason why at the minimum newbies shouldn't be allowed to create threads in those two boards, but ideally I think we should prohibit various lower ranks from even being able to post in there at all since they're only going to use it as a place to easily rank up their accounts.