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Topic: Proof that Ripple numbers are manipulated by Coinmarketcap, there is no boom! (Read 11357 times)

newbie
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Market cap in crypto is the biggest joke i've heard. It's a false representation of the true value to a coin and gives those outsiders hope that something big is on the other side. Value should be based upon liquidity and distribution of the currency.

With a first sale on an exchange in any crypto the "market cap" is set based upon price of trade multiples by the distribution of currency. This is a horrible way to represent the value that backs the currency as it instantly creates a unrealistic monetary value. The longer people believe the system of coinmarketcap is true the more will have legitamate legs to stand on, so sad as many will be taken advantage of.

long time lurker of this community and happy to join this discussion,

-T

Welcome to the world of digital penny stocks

Reminds me of the wizard oz. Following the yellow brick road....

I really find the manipulation of price in crypto amusing. I assume this has been the way things have gone forever excluding crypto.

*cough* federal reserve *cough*.
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
Market cap in crypto is the biggest joke i've heard. It's a false representation of the true value to a coin and gives those outsiders hope that something big is on the other side. Value should be based upon liquidity and distribution of the currency.

With a first sale on an exchange in any crypto the "market cap" is set based upon price of trade multiples by the distribution of currency. This is a horrible way to represent the value that backs the currency as it instantly creates a unrealistic monetary value. The longer people believe the system of coinmarketcap is true the more will have legitamate legs to stand on, so sad as many will be taken advantage of.

long time lurker of this community and happy to join this discussion,

-T

Welcome to the world of digital penny stocks
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
Market cap in crypto is the biggest joke i've heard. It's a false representation of the true value to a coin and gives those outsiders hope that something big is on the other side. Value should be based upon liquidity and distribution of the currency.

With a first sale on an exchange in any crypto the "market cap" is set based upon price of trade multiples by the distribution of currency. This is a horrible way to represent the value that backs the currency as it instantly creates a unrealistic monetary value. The longer people believe the system of coinmarketcap is true the more will have legitamate legs to stand on, so sad as many will be taken advantage of.

long time lurker of this community and happy to join this discussion,

-T
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
how come people are still talking about ripple?

hero member
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Merit: 584

1) Follow snapswap's withdrawal process. I've never withdrawn BTC from snapswap, but the usual way is that they give you a destination tag, you make a Ripple payment in BTC to their address with that destination tag and they credit your snapswap account.
The snapswap.us website claims you can send, trade, receive "any currency."
After logging in on snapswap.us, the only thing they let you do is deposit or withdraw dollars.  My snapswap bitcoin balance doesn't even appear in the account history.
Can you please explain this?  And how to use snapswap with btc?  As it stands, I have to do everything through rippletrade and the bridge.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
I only check the price. It's nearly double.
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
most people know that it is Ripple-Scam  Undecided

the company can change everything. thats a sad joke. to compare ripple with bitcoin is ridiculous!

How can they change everything? It sounds like YOU have no idea about what you are saying. Sad.

it's because..

legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
withdrawing straight to your bitcoin wallet via the BTC bridge is fine as well.
hero member
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is there a way that I can get my coins back to my BTC wallet?
You have three choices:

1) Follow snapswap's withdrawal process. I've never withdrawn BTC from snapswap, but the usual way is that they give you a destination tag, you make a Ripple payment in BTC to their address with that destination tag and they credit your snapswap account. Then you withdraw to a BTC wallet using their web interface.

2) If you don't like snapswap's withdrawal process, exchange your snapswap BTC inside Ripple for another asset that you can more easily withdraw.

3) Make one or more direct payments to Bitcoin addresses from the Ripple client.


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Okay, but as long as I have them converted as BTC into my wallet at ripple, then I should get that exact amount of BTC at some point, correct?
Maybe, maybe not. That's up to the gateway. Ripple can't force anyone to give you BTC if they haven't agreed to do so. I believe snapswap BTC can be sent over the outbound bridge at no fee, meaning you should get the exact amount out if you send to a Bitcoin address from the Ripple client.
Thanks for the helpful info, JoelKatz.  I recently started using ripple as an exchange for buying and selling snapswap btc/usd.  I withdraw btc over the bridge.  I didn't know about the withdrawal process you outlined in 1) above.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
most people know that it is Ripple-Scam  Undecided

the company can change everything. thats a sad joke. to compare ripple with bitcoin is ridiculous!

How can they change everything? It sounds like YOU have no idea about what you are saying. Sad.
legendary
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=== NODE IS OK! ==
I dont know... I sold it with success  Cheesy
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
most people know that it is Ripple-Scam  Undecided

the company can change everything. thats a sad joke. to compare ripple with bitcoin is ridiculous!
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1012
Democracy is vulnerable to a 51% attack.
So, who said i was FUDing about telling people that this is just a P&D ?

Sure the investor that bough it cheap don't want you to know that ... but keep believe them
I think we can all agree that it doesn't reflect any significant change in the fundamental value of XRP. Nothing fundamental changed. It doesn't follow that it's a pump and dump, it could be simple market momentum. But I think it's pretty obvious that any sudden, drastic increase in price that doesn't have any apparent justification is likely to be accompanied by a corresponding drop in price.

And, of course, everyone thinks they can buy in, wait for it to reach the top, and then sell out before it drops. But simple common sense will tell you that that it's impossible for everyone to make a profit if the price returns to where it was before.

Long term increases in the price of XRP benefit Ripple Labs because they allow us to sell XRP at a better price and because they are perceived as market confidence in the success of the Ripple network. To some extent, people's willingness to invest in using the Ripple network is dependent on how well they think it will do in the future and long term price increases help. But short term price increases due to momentum or manipulation inevitably followed by corresponding drops in price don't help Ripple Labs at all. The drops can send precisely the opposite signal, and the net result of a rise and drop is a weakening in the connection between the price of XRP and the long-term viability of the Ripple network.

Ripple Labs is not a short-term XRP speculator.
legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1006
You mean a MT.GOX scam is good sometimes ?

A lot of bag holders will disagree, but i think your wallet says otherwise you greedy shill
Well, I didn't trade XRP at all for months now, in case you were directing your comment at me....

I don't think MtGox "scams" (being very VERY incompetent != scam...) are good, I just said they happened in Bitcoinland before too, P&D are not something extraordinary or unique and not indicative of anything other than a few people managing to move a small market.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Ripple manipulated by Coinmarketcap , really ? ..
Wtf , true ? or its  just in order to affraid people Huh
When i see the "trust" of the post maker is dont know lol ...but  facts dont lies ..


Here is my take on the manipulation accusations.
legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1006
So, who said i was FUDing about telling people that this is just a P&D ?
Uhm, I have yet to read any statement that indicates otherwise.

I believe myself that this is just some random Pump + Dump strategy (though likely not done by Ripple Labs' (ex) employees). This has no real influence on Ripple itself though, Bitcoin was pumped + dumped multiple times too already in the past.
hero member
Activity: 563
Merit: 500
Ripple manipulated by Coinmarketcap , really ? ..
Wtf , true ? or its  just in order to affraid people Huh
When i see the "trust" of the post maker is dont know lol ...but  facts dont lies ..
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
For anyone to think that Ripple is a scam at this point is either in denial or an investor looking to push the price down. The CEO is very public, and a renowned player in the alt currency market.

I love that Ripple haters gloss over the fact that CEO Chris Larsen was a pioneer in social/p2p lending as the founder of Prosper.
full member
Activity: 209
Merit: 100
Twitter: @clay_space
For anyone to think that Ripple is a scam at this point is either in denial or an investor looking to push the price down. The CEO is very public, and a renowned player in the alt currency market. They have public events to spread awareness for their platform--most recently they did Around the World in 5 Seconds. And they have actually signed banks to use their platform. Ripple Labs is a private business that is looking to utilize XRP in order to run their extremely ambitious goals of connecting fiat currency to the digital realm.

I would also like to add that MIT's Technology Review recognized Ripple Labs as one of the 50 smartest companies today. There's a lot of positive faith in the Ripple protocol:

https://twitter.com/cryptospacesuit/status/539184416422387712

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1010
Ad maiora!
I thought honey badger didn't give a shit, seems like he's awful pissed about ripple!
What I can't believe is; how so few people neglected the free giveaway ripple did when it came out. What were they afraid of? I grab most free giveaways when I can. It's free after all, and it's not like I'll be ostracized or humiliated. I'm not in middle school so I don't care if someone calls my stuff "gay"
Also, I don't get why XRP is perceived as a threat to btc. You don't have to get very far into the literature to see it is complimentary in its relation to other currencies.
I do think this price spike could be an over valuation though. Not a pump. I will continue to hodl my XRP - my two possible outcomes will be= moon, or XRP worth exactly what I paid for it (zero)
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