Propagating bitcoin among indigenous populace

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Quote from: Palider on October 21, 2019, 10:42:01 AM

Quote from: skyline247 on October 01, 2019, 05:26:25 PM

propagating Bitcoin amongst indigenous populations is a very difficult task indeed. The reason being, that it's hard when they do not have cell phones or smartphones to give them Bitcoin wallets. Also, there may be language barriers in dealing with such peoples. Therefore, much effort must be taken to ensure that they understand the blockchain technology.

Yes this is a difficult task, It is also possible to teach them step by step but it will take a long time to get started, Because from mobile phones (How to use it) and Bitcoin it really needs enough attention to be able to teach, And we know , that most Indigenous people do not finish school because they are far from the community, or may prefer to work to help the family.

So this is a challenge we must take!

I think that this is really a difficult task to educate people about the principles and features of cryptocurrency. I was already able to train 5-7 people, and then it was very difficult for me. I spent more than 8 months on this business.

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Quote from: skyline247 on October 01, 2019, 05:26:25 PM

propagating Bitcoin amongst indigenous populations is a very difficult task indeed. The reason being, that it's hard when they do not have cell phones or smartphones to give them Bitcoin wallets. Also, there may be language barriers in dealing with such peoples. Therefore, much effort must be taken to ensure that they understand the blockchain technology.

Yes this is a difficult task, It is also possible to teach them step by step but it will take a long time to get started, Because from mobile phones (How to use it) and Bitcoin it really needs enough attention to be able to teach, And we know , that most Indigenous people do not finish school because they are far from the community, or may prefer to work to help the family.

So this is a challenge we must take!

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Quote from: Eugenar on October 20, 2019, 12:15:21 AM

Definitely, it takes time and effort because indigenous people should be first learn how to use even mobile devices and to be exposed to technology, they need to learn the basics of computer, or else, maybe we could exposed them directly to cryptocurrency in a way that what they just need to learn is to how to store money, withdraw and transfer funds. In that case, they can contribute to the cryptocurrency community even without fully understanding the technology behind it.

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Quote from: CryptoBry on October 20, 2019, 12:26:41 AM

What indigenous people need and want are the things that can help them survive and not cryptocurrency. In fact, giving them "fish" may not be helping a lot we need to teach them how to "fish" so they will not, one day, be extinct. Of course, these people are survivors so if left on their one they can eventually make it...it is even us who are used to the urban dwellings that may have a big problem if there will be conflagration and disasters along the way. Aside from basic education, these people need a systematic and adept healthcare system and this can be provided by the government and non-government efforts.

Education is the key so investing with their young people can go a long, long way in preparation for their next generation who are already learned and can easily integrate with the mainstream society without losing their culture and identity. Now, I still have to know where is the role of cryptocurrency here. We are even having a hard time convincing the mainstream population to adopt cryptocurrency and here we are planning to make cryptocurrency the in thing for the indigenous people...sorry I have to say that this idea is not my cup of tea. I have a 10th blood of a native based on my family history and I once worked in an NGO focusing on native people so I know what I am saying, at least in my POV.

Of course, giving these people cryptocurrency won't hurt them so make your day...it is not my money anyway!

I've already said something like this on my last post. And we probably both agree that cryptocurrency doesn't necessarily help them make a better living or should I say, cryptocurrency isn't the key to make their lives better. Indigenous people, at least for me, are special people (not in a discriminating or insulting way)--they make the culture alive (very much alive actually). I'm not an activist or anything but I think technology is what makes culture "endangered", as society progress by means of technology we often forget our traditions/culture, or rather we choose to set those aside, "for progress". I know technology is essential not gonna lie, but what I'm saying is exposing these people into something that is unfamiliar and in hindsight, dangerous, isn't going to be the best idea for everyone. Again, I'm not belittling them, just being a realist/practical in this situation.

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I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

In my country the indigenous populace are living in the remote areas with limited access to electricity and zero internet connection. Aside from that poverty is high and they are even have a problem on eating rich food since most of the times they are only eating once a day. If we want to teach bitcoin to these indigenous people then we should provide assistance to them. Here are the biggest obstacles in teaching bitcoin to Indigents:

1. No food at the table

It is hard to teach about bitcoin when they are merely surviving. If we want to teach about cryptocurrency them we should help first by providing livelihood programs so they can earn for themselves and buy food in their table and provide other necessities.

2. High illiteracy rate

These people does not even know how to read and write except for some and it is a need to establish a school near the area. How can they understand bitcoin if they even know how to read and write.

3. Absence of Electricity

There is a need to set-up electricity in their area which is very costly considering their distance to the urban centers.

4. Installation of internet connection

This is very important, How can they use bitcoin if there is no internet connection

5. Cannot afford to buy pc or mobile phones

Due to poverty they cannot avail to buy these things but we cannot give dole out so we need to strenghten their livelihood program.

At the end of the day it is very hard to teach the indigenous people about bitcoin since before we can teach them we need to solve their problems at the grassroot level. Aside from that, it is very costly.

I certainly agree with you. Educating them would be easy but applying the learnings would be hard because of the lack of equipment and resources. We all know that cryptocurrency involves that latest technology so gadgets, electricity and the internet would be a necessity to succeed in crypto. There are things to be considered and educating them about the blockchain technology would follow.

Agreed as well. It certainly takes a village between the educators (people who teach the technology), providers (those who provide the LTE/WiFi services), distributors (companies that sell the devices), etc. While not impossible, it would be extremely difficult introducing blockchain to some indigenous populations that do not have access to the internet or even electricity. However there are ways around these obstacles like cellular towers and solar powered chargers for phones and tablets.

It's also important to note that blockchain technology itself is good not only for exchanging cryptocurrencies, but also for improving distance communications, tracking animal movements, and studying weather patterns for a possible flood or drought. An improvement with any or all of these can greatly improve the quality of life.

I think this all comes down to location. Most indigenous people live in the rural areas so obviously it would be hard to provide them with services and that's fair, but what about if they moved into the city? Wouldn't this instantly become so much easier?

There are also a range of use cases to this technology as you've stated, with it not just being useful for payment services and tech-based products. A blockchain service to track food distribution would be amazing for these producers and these people.

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Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

Talking of the indigenous people of the world, there will still be a very great issue getting them to understand the use of the cryptocurrency because they might not even understand the technology themselves.

Knowledge is power I agree, but we cannot totally get everyone to understand the use of crypto which is why we believe that cryptocurrency will be restricted to digital currency alone while the fiat will still be very much useful for those indigenous people that will find it extremely hard to cope with the digital system of cryptocurrency, except that we want to also create a paper currency for cryptocurrency which I think that it has defeated the objective of the crypto itself and its whole idea of satoshi.

Quote from: Herbert2020 on October 20, 2019, 03:25:02 AM

you can see that most of the topics here and mostly in altcoin board is mostly about investing and making profit!

Fortunately, bitcoin/crypto definitely will be an area of interest for those people as bitcoins and other cryptos can be used for making profits which will be more than enough reason for making them interested in bitcoins. For the same reason, Mr. Satoshi included mining and limited supply kind of things with bitcoins.

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Spreading knowledge about Bitcoin among economically unskilled people can not only educate them about new technologies, but also expose them to the temptation to buy Bitcoin without understanding the market situation. On the one hand, it is right to teach the indigenous population new digital technologies, but on the other, it can lead to the fact that some risky people will lose their money in the hope of profit from investments in cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: Genemind on October 20, 2019, 03:35:15 AM

Quote from: Mandoy on October 19, 2019, 05:55:51 AM

Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

In my country the indigenous populace are living in the remote areas with limited access to electricity and zero internet connection. Aside from that poverty is high and they are even have a problem on eating rich food since most of the times they are only eating once a day. If we want to teach bitcoin to these indigenous people then we should provide assistance to them. Here are the biggest obstacles in teaching bitcoin to Indigents:

1. No food at the table

It is hard to teach about bitcoin when they are merely surviving. If we want to teach about cryptocurrency them we should help first by providing livelihood programs so they can earn for themselves and buy food in their table and provide other necessities.

2. High illiteracy rate

These people does not even know how to read and write except for some and it is a need to establish a school near the area. How can they understand bitcoin if they even know how to read and write.

3. Absence of Electricity

There is a need to set-up electricity in their area which is very costly considering their distance to the urban centers.

4. Installation of internet connection

This is very important, How can they use bitcoin if there is no internet connection

5. Cannot afford to buy pc or mobile phones

Due to poverty they cannot avail to buy these things but we cannot give dole out so we need to strenghten their livelihood program.

At the end of the day it is very hard to teach the indigenous people about bitcoin since before we can teach them we need to solve their problems at the grassroot level. Aside from that, it is very costly.

I certainly agree with you. Educating them would be easy but applying the learnings would be hard because of the lack of equipment and resources. We all know that cryptocurrency involves that latest technology so gadgets, electricity and the internet would be a necessity to succeed in crypto. There are things to be considered and educating them about the blockchain technology would follow.

Agreed as well. It certainly takes a village between the educators (people who teach the technology), providers (those who provide the LTE/WiFi services), distributors (companies that sell the devices), etc. While not impossible, it would be extremely difficult introducing blockchain to some indigenous populations that do not have access to the internet or even electricity. However there are ways around these obstacles like cellular towers and solar powered chargers for phones and tablets.

It's also important to note that blockchain technology itself is good not only for exchanging cryptocurrencies, but also for improving distance communications, tracking animal movements, and studying weather patterns for a possible flood or drought. An improvement with any or all of these can greatly improve the quality of life.

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Quote from: Mandoy on October 19, 2019, 05:55:51 AM

Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

In my country the indigenous populace are living in the remote areas with limited access to electricity and zero internet connection. Aside from that poverty is high and they are even have a problem on eating rich food since most of the times they are only eating once a day. If we want to teach bitcoin to these indigenous people then we should provide assistance to them. Here are the biggest obstacles in teaching bitcoin to Indigents:

1. No food at the table

It is hard to teach about bitcoin when they are merely surviving. If we want to teach about cryptocurrency them we should help first by providing livelihood programs so they can earn for themselves and buy food in their table and provide other necessities.

2. High illiteracy rate

These people does not even know how to read and write except for some and it is a need to establish a school near the area. How can they understand bitcoin if they even know how to read and write.

3. Absence of Electricity

There is a need to set-up electricity in their area which is very costly considering their distance to the urban centers.

4. Installation of internet connection

This is very important, How can they use bitcoin if there is no internet connection

5. Cannot afford to buy pc or mobile phones

Due to poverty they cannot avail to buy these things but we cannot give dole out so we need to strenghten their livelihood program.

At the end of the day it is very hard to teach the indigenous people about bitcoin since before we can teach them we need to solve their problems at the grassroot level. Aside from that, it is very costly.

I certainly agree with you. Educating them would be easy but applying the learnings would be hard because of the lack of equipment and resources. We all know that cryptocurrency involves that latest technology so gadgets, electricity and the internet would be a necessity to succeed in crypto. There are things to be considered and educating them about the blockchain technology would follow.

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it is true that knowledge is power and educating others is going to provide a lot of benefits for them but the problem is that the "people" have to want to be educated first and want to gain that knowledge. otherwise if they are not even interested in bettering themselves and are only interested in gambling and making some profit from the market fluctuations then it doesn't do anybody any good.
for example you mentioned this place, you can see that most of the topics here and mostly in altcoin board is mostly about investing and making profit!

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It looks like you learnt a new word "indigenous" and you just wanted to use it in a thread. Roll Eyes

The meaning of Indigenous is defined as “originating or occurring naturally in a particular place.” Indigenous can be used to define species of plants and animals that originated in a particular place. It is also used more broadly to refer to native people, those who were here first. - Source : http://www.balancedis.com/2013/10/what-does-it-mean-to-be-indigenous/

Your thread title are talking about indigenous populace and then you refer to indigenous media in your thread content. It would have been better to talk about "native" or "rural" in this context. Roll Eyes

In any way, taking Bitcoin to those people at full of challenges, because they ussually lack the basic needs to "use" Crypto currencies, like electricity and/or mobile devices and access to the Internet. Roll Eyes

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Propagating bitcoin among indigenous populations is a very difficult step to take because it is indeed a constraint
blocking too much, maybe doing it in stages cannot be instant. We start to improve the quality of its education,
after that with the procurement of electricity and internet networks and do regular socialization. But if we think
using the logic of stages such as government must be helped and we know the majority of governments do not
recognize bitcoin. So the conclusion is propagating bitcoin among indigenous cannot be done at this time, it must
wait for bitcoin become legal.

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Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

Spreading the understanding of currencies such as bitcoin is not easy, it is very difficult to achieve understanding that "bitcoin has many benefits" after problems and criminal acts using cryptocurrency payment tools. Although understanding the benefits can be done, and indeed profit benefits in the economic sector for local residents. But on the other hand there will be negative impacts that can be generated. Also the state still has not legalized and chose the attitude to not care.

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Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

What indigenous people need and want are the things that can help them survive and not cryptocurrency. In fact, giving them "fish" may not be helping a lot we need to teach them how to "fish" so they will not, one day, be extinct. Of course, these people are survivors so if left on their one they can eventually make it...it is even us who are used to the urban dwellings that may have a big problem if there will be conflagration and disasters along the way. Aside from basic education, these people need a systematic and adept healthcare system and this can be provided by the government and non-government efforts.

Education is the key so investing with their young people can go a long, long way in preparation for their next generation who are already learned and can easily integrate with the mainstream society without losing their culture and identity. Now, I still have to know where is the role of cryptocurrency here. We are even having a hard time convincing the mainstream population to adopt cryptocurrency and here we are planning to make cryptocurrency the in thing for the indigenous people...sorry I have to say that this idea is not my cup of tea. I have a 10th blood of a native based on my family history and I once worked in an NGO focusing on native people so I know what I am saying, at least in my POV.

Of course, giving these people cryptocurrency won't hurt them so make your day...it is not my money anyway!

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Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

After reading all the responses to your idea, it gives me the impression that what they want to happen is not to rush things. I mean, you do not teach a child to drive a lambo before he learns to walk. The message is simply to take one step at a time. You do not promote Bitcoin awareness to a community far from where the electricity is. Your idea is indeed helpful, but to arrive at that point there must be a hundred or more works to be done first.

Definitely, it takes time and effort because indigenous people should be first learn how to use even mobile devices and to be exposed to technology, they need to learn the basics of computer, or else, maybe we could exposed them directly to cryptocurrency in a way that what they just need to learn is to how to store money, withdraw and transfer funds. In that case, they can contribute to the cryptocurrency community even without fully understanding the technology behind it.

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Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

After reading all the responses to your idea, it gives me the impression that what they want to happen is not to rush things. I mean, you do not teach a child to drive a lambo before he learns to walk. The message is simply to take one step at a time. You do not promote Bitcoin awareness to a community far from where the electricity is. Your idea is indeed helpful, but to arrive at that point there must be a hundred or more works to be done first.

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Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

It's a good idea mate - but I think it would be better to include blockchain technology in the title, instead of just Bitcoin. It will be blockchain technology that will help them get connected and help us help them.

Your also thinking way too far-fetched in my opinion. The rural indigenous population, for the most part is just stuck in the past and they don't have access to a lot important things compared to blockchain technology.

Only when we are able to help them get access to water, shelter and other needs can we introduce them to new technologies.

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Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

Your idea is right but doing so is not an easy task. I think, before we even introduce crypto to indigenous people, we must first solve their primary problems. Lack of access to primary needs such as water, electricity and internet should be the first things to consider. Then jobs and education are what's next, people from these parts are having difficulties in finding opportunities around them because they're location are mostly remote areas and opportunities are there in the cities, which are crowded in third world countries.

After all that's been said, only then we can start to educate them regarding investments, where cryptocurrency could be one.

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In my opinion, the key here is not about the Indigenous people but the poverty itself is the enemy here I guess there are certain solution about this and I think that is Blockchain I mainly see that Indigenous populace blend with modernization but there are some that don't want to live their cultural heritage and we can not force them to do so, And this is a big problem if you want to solve poverty on them because the world is modernizing and they just keep on left behind by it,

A solution like teaching them little by little comes in mind but not forcefully but voluntarily I guess this is the only way there is and because some don't have enough knowledge with technology I guess you can sure start over there.

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Quote from: Mandoy on October 19, 2019, 05:55:51 AM

Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

In my country the indigenous populace are living in the remote areas with limited access to electricity and zero internet connection. Aside from that poverty is high and they are even have a problem on eating rich food since most of the times they are only eating once a day. If we want to teach bitcoin to these indigenous people then we should provide assistance to them. Here are the biggest obstacles in teaching bitcoin to Indigents:

1. No food at the table

It is hard to teach about bitcoin when they are merely surviving. If we want to teach about cryptocurrency them we should help first by providing livelihood programs so they can earn for themselves and buy food in their table and provide other necessities.

2. High illiteracy rate

These people does not even know how to read and write except for some and it is a need to establish a school near the area. How can they understand bitcoin if they even know how to read and write.

3. Absence of Electricity

There is a need to set-up electricity in their area which is very costly considering their distance to the urban centers.

4. Installation of internet connection

This is very important, How can they use bitcoin if there is no internet connection

5. Cannot afford to buy pc or mobile phones

Due to poverty they cannot avail to buy these things but we cannot give dole out so we need to strenghten their livelihood program.

At the end of the day it is very hard to teach the indigenous people about bitcoin since before we can teach them we need to solve their problems at the grassroot level. Aside from that it is very costly.

This is almost mission impossible. The story is almost the same in my country. However, some locals have quality education, mobile phones and the others. i believe if these individuals are targeted, it will go a long way in affecting the people around them.

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Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 01, 2019, 01:57:06 PM

I believe knowledge is power and this also applies to any ventured investment. Understanding one's indigenous environment first can help to establish and harness strategies on how to dispense information about bitcoin especially on the country economic stronghold amidst exploring the vastness of trade and building currency value. Finally, creating more platforms like this and involving the indigenous media with the true value that bitcoin as a crypto portrays will be of great economic help to the community and the nation at large.

I don't really know what's the purpose/significance of this and where you are getting at about this, but I don't think its really that necessary, especially for indigenous people.

Now, disclaimer, I am not belittling them--I am just saying that it will not change anything, to put it bluntly, It's a waste of time. And what I'm curious about is, why would you even want to include indigenous people into something complex, and in all honesty won't really help them at the very least? Just because you are benefiting from this doesn't mean everyone can. Not to mention not only you have to educate them with basic education, intermediate, and advance, you will also teach them to be familiar with technology, not only that but awareness to the internet as well. People should learn first how to secure themselves when using the internet, you know what I'm talking about.

And for god sake, don't bother the indigenous people in their "peaceful" way of life. We've had enough victims from trolls/scammers on this community, don't include the innocents.

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