Proposal For Naija (Nigeria LB) Sub-Boards Creation - page 2.

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Quote from: Adbitco on November 11, 2023, 04:20:24 AM

Quote from: Jaycoinz on November 10, 2023, 06:33:54 PM

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You know whenever I see the activeness of our local board (Nigeria) I come to think if there are no other African countries in this forum, and aside that, looking too well the community is massively growing this alone shows that there is a great improvement and if the subforum are being created then we can moved most of the post to where they belong. We can say mod is also needed to help monitor the cleanliness of the subforum, for the past 2 months I was shocked to see this massive increments and turnover within the period of time.

I completely agree with what you say - Nigeria has grown a lot on this forum and even some of the users have become part of the beneficial contributors to the forum. I tend to hope that Local Board Nigeria will get its own moderator before the child board request is approved - but I agree that child board are also needed so that topics with different categories can be well organized on one provided board.

Nigeria Local Board had 13,630 posts this year and they were created by 392 users. Charles-Tim and CryptopreneurBrainboss were the two most active users this year with 764 and 401 posts - so one of the two could probably be proposed as a moderator there. The number of posts and the number of active users has increased by more than 100% compared to last year - so it is fair to say that Nigerian Local Board need moderators to be able to handle some of the issues in the board.

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This is a nice development and it will be helpful if the idea is achieved because anyone who wants to create a post that is not related to Bitcoin discussion can use the subboard to create a post that is not related to Bitcoin. Since our Naija board was created for the spread of Bitcoin in Nigeria and posts that are not related to Bitcoin have been created in our local that serve as spam posts, if this sub-board is achieved I think it will reduce the level of spam posts in our local board because sub-board for creating Naija related news will be there.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on November 10, 2023, 06:33:54 PM

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And all these are the examples of a growing community just as sir hugeblack have said, Nigerian are known for many things and one of them is resilience to show their excellence in every thing they do and an example is in the community here as I believe we are the only Africa nation that has been active here for some time and although they maybe some minor folks that are from other places but the massive involvement of Nigerian here in the community is something else and also this improvement will certainly draw other Africans here in deed and hopefully they will make such impact too .

You know whenever I see the activeness of our local board (Nigeria) I come to think if there are no other African countries in this forum, and aside that, looking too well the community is massively growing this alone shows that there is a great improvement and if the subforum are being created then we can moved most of the post to where they belong. We can say mod is also needed to help monitor the cleanliness of the subforum, for the past 2 months I was shocked to see this massive increments and turnover within the period of time.

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OP, I support your proposed local sub board. At a minimum, several child boards will approve the placement of discussion topics that are appropriate to the discussion so that they are neatly arranged like in other existing sub-local boards.

I have opened the local Nigeria (Naija) board, there are 24 pages and there are discussion topics available on speculation, trading, guides and other topics.
If your proposal is accepted, local Nigerians will be even better at producing the best posters.

Sorry if I involve myself in this because I am not local to Nigeria.
Just expressing an opinion. Good luck to the local Nigerian sub board.

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Quote from: Adbitco on November 10, 2023, 03:06:03 PM

Quote from: hugeblack on November 07, 2023, 02:44:43 PM

Overall, I am happy with the level of activity in the Nigerian Board and I hope they get a new mod soon. It seems like a community that is growing well and it is an opportunity to see more Africans here.

I still extend my (our) gratitudes to you for reviving the local board since most of the people's interest were lost and lot of people never wanted to put interest anymore but when I came across the post it seems like a dying soul was restored so it's to our local board to fully restored for the kind gesture you decided to show to our LB and I believe to see more people coming and also increase in activities.

Lastly I will have to say that op did a very nice job to have sum up most of the topics and also bring up the most important childboard (subforum) which would allow us to channel every post to where they belongs to since the NLB is growing uncontrollably we need to straighten up to every post to be in places to reduce the rate of spam post.

And all these are the examples of a growing community just as sir hugeblack have said, Nigerian are known for many things and one of them is resilience to show their excellence in every thing they do and an example is in the community here as I believe we are the only Africa nation that has been active here for some time and although they maybe some minor folks that are from other places but the massive involvement of Nigerian here in the community is something else and also this improvement will certainly draw other Africans here in deed and hopefully they will make such impact too .

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Quote from: hugeblack on November 07, 2023, 02:44:43 PM

Overall, I am happy with the level of activity in the Nigerian Board and I hope they get a new mod soon. It seems like a community that is growing well and it is an opportunity to see more Africans here.

I still extend my (our) gratitudes to you for reviving the local board since most of the people's interest were lost and lot of people never wanted to put interest anymore but when I came across the post it seems like a dying soul was restored so it's to our local board to fully restored for the kind gesture you decided to show to our LB and I believe to see more people coming and also increase in activities.

Lastly I will have to say that op did a very nice job to have sum up most of the topics and also bring up the most important childboard (subforum) which would allow us to channel every post to where they belongs to since the NLB is growing uncontrollably we need to straighten up to every post to be in places to reduce the rate of spam post.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 09, 2023, 09:36:02 PM

more merit sources, more source merit, discussions about spam too.

That's because it is among the issue we are facing, if not for Hugeblack support how do you think we would have fare? so far definitely he would have known if our LB is full of shit post and I know he understands why we need additional merit source or at least increase CryptopreneurBrainboss merit allocation.

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 09, 2023, 09:36:02 PM

What did I do wrong in my post?
If a board is spam, very spam, admins will lock it, it's reality. I wrote that local members are responsible for what they write and discuss, not the admins.

I did not say I am against sub boards for Nigeria.

But the way you put it, is more likely you are relating it to our local board and if you are not then stop using it relatively to us, we know how important this two we requested for us and is not that the Nigeria Local Board is filled with spam posters like you relating it to, we still have alot of quality posters, sometimes is interesting that members outside our local board are interested, we are among top 4 most active local board here, check this post to see our monthly overview for September since our October overview has not been updated by Igebotz and reason was that he travelled without his pc.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 09, 2023, 09:36:02 PM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on November 09, 2023, 09:20:47 PM

I don't think you really read through the op correctly, because I can't see a correlation to what op is saying and to what you are posting here, do you know how hard it's to read a local pidgin english do you think you can decode it correctly if I may ask? Most times it's very hard to read pidgin if you are not a native of Nigeria and how do you think others who are not a native of Nigeria can moderate the local board if we don't actually report a post to them. Btw we are requesting for childboard which is normal thing because there are more of different topics from many angles which I know we need a new childboard to move those posts to where it belongs. Maybe next time while commenting on a post always try to read through op thoroughly before posting because you are sending a bad message over here.

Agbe discussed about many things in his post: proposal for sub-board for Nigeria; more merit sources, more source merit, discussions about spam too.

What did I do wrong in my post?
If a board is spam, very spam, admins will lock it, it's reality. I wrote that local members are responsible for what they write and discuss, not the admins.

I did not say I am against sub boards for Nigeria.

Okay.. take a look of your post

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 07, 2023, 06:06:09 AM

If the board is spam, it will be muted, locked. Locals can continue their spamming before the board is locked.

It seems the entire local board should be muted or locked, instead of any topic or post that is spammed should get locked. Most times our writing gives different representation but while the poster meant another thing and from here you would know why I did say your post gives another meaning.

And again op only quoted those merits source application and the increase for already merits source we had, the thing is the allocation is too minimal in a way that the available merits can't go a long way for the board within a month before running out of merits.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on November 09, 2023, 09:20:47 PM

I don't think you really read through the op correctly, because I can't see a correlation to what op is saying and to what you are posting here, do you know how hard it's to read a local pidgin english do you think you can decode it correctly if I may ask? Most times it's very hard to read pidgin if you are not a native of Nigeria and how do you think others who are not a native of Nigeria can moderate the local board if we don't actually report a post to them. Btw we are requesting for childboard which is normal thing because there are more of different topics from many angles which I know we need a new childboard to move those posts to where it belongs. Maybe next time while commenting on a post always try to read through op thoroughly before posting because you are sending a bad message over here.

Agbe discussed about many things in his post: proposal for sub-board for Nigeria; more merit sources, more source merit, discussions about spam too.

What did I do wrong in my post?
If a board is spam, very spam, admins will lock it, it's reality. I wrote that local members are responsible for what they write and discuss, not the admins.

I did not say I am against sub boards for Nigeria.

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Quote from: hugeblack on November 07, 2023, 02:44:43 PM

Some of mentioned sub-boards are not related to Bitcoin, and creating such sub-boards may increase spam discussions that are not related to Bitcoin and without a mod, I do not expect them to be approved. I suggest changing the name of the sub-board for something related to Bitcoin, and collecting +30 topics within Last 90 days, things like technical section, wallets, beginners and help.

I applaud your understanding @ hugeblack in our quest to attain more sub-boards, it is important that we should not undermine our motives of being in bitcointalk as our intentions is to promote and secure our interest on bitcoin and bitcoin related activities. So creating more sub-boards in regard to the suggestion that is being listed by @agbe and legendary charles-tim may not really be necessary, the only reason I believe the sub-board should be created is only in respect of jam packed topics and threads due to the massive growth in the Nigeria local board.

Quote from: hugeblack on November 07, 2023, 02:44:43 PM

Overall, I am happy with the level of activity in the Nigerian Board and I hope they get a new mod soon. It seems like a community that is growing well and it is an opportunity to see more Africans here.

Sure, we hope to get a moderator soon as it will aid in the success of the Nigerian local board and bring Nigerians more closer to one another both by interactions and suggestions towards creating an enabling system that will be favorable to all. So we do hope for a moderator or rather moderators due to our increased growth on this forum.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on November 07, 2023, 06:06:09 AM

If the board is spam, it will be muted, locked. Locals can continue their spamming before the board is locked.

Use report to report spam posts because it's responsibility of local members who ask for the local board.

The board is in English and global moderators, current moderators who can use English can moderate it. All moderators in Bitcointalk can use English well and all of them can do this.

I don't think you really read through the op correctly, because I can't see a correlation to what op is saying and to what you are posting here, do you know how hard it's to read a local pidgin english do you think you can decode it correctly if I may ask? Most times it's very hard to read pidgin if you are not a native of Nigeria and how do you think others who are not a native of Nigeria can moderate the local board if we don't actually report a post to them. Btw we are requesting for childboard which is normal thing because there are more of different topics from many angles which I know we need a new childboard to move those posts to where it belongs. Maybe next time while commenting on a post always try to read through op thoroughly before posting because you are sending a bad message over here.

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Huge thanks to Agbe for putting this proposal up. This has been in discussions in the Nigeria local community and after extensive discussions on the subject matter, we reached the agreement that this would be the best course of action for the community. When we first made the initial request for a local board, we didn't know it would grow this fast and while we're happy with the community growth, we'd really like if everything is much more organized so we can know which sub-boards to go for which discussion.

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Thank you Mr Agbe for bring this massive problem from our local to discuss publicly in the meta board with those members who have upper hand in this forum, it is very obvious to see that our local board is the third most active participating local board in this forum and yet we have not been receiving credits based on this hype. Mr Theymos please we need you to consider the growth of our local board and effect some changes that our local board member have brought to your table.

Quote from: rachael9385 on November 08, 2023, 04:13:16 PM

However, I know that the both are so dem important but what I am trying to say is that, I don't think that we can have the both at the same time because there have been so many requests from our local board that we haven't gotten any reply ye, but we are still hoping to get positive returns from the requests, so that's why am saying the sub-board is more important for now than the moderator, maybe after the sub-board then we can talk about the moderator.
The sub-board is good and also, the moderator too is good because without the moderator the local board will be full of trash post.

rachael9385 I think the two goes together when it comes to there operation, assuming the subboards have been approved, do you mean we will still go back to beg an external moderator to shuffle the posts that were missed up by their OPs? No! So the best request is to ask Mr Theymos to please give us the two, both the sub board and the local board moderator.

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Quote from: Agbe on November 07, 2023, 05:02:26 AM

Congestion. Too many threads and difficult to navigate through and topics are easily buried.
To minimize spams: Since there is no local moderator at the moment, the child board will separate the trash, spamming and unrefined posts from the main board.

I have also noticed this in the local board, too many threads are being created recently and i noticed some are even irrelevant threads contributing nothing to the board but if these many threads are of quality and adding value to the board it would have been acceptable. Due to the absence of moderator in the board garbage posts are being made and it is making it difficult to locate good posts. I think it will be helpful if a moderator is being appointed to keep the board in check and sweep out any irrelevant or useless posts. Activities have increased recently and it is a good development for the entire forum so i hope theymos considers this request.

In addressing the issue of creation of a Sub Board I think it’s a good idea but i don’t think it is necessary just yet, maybe in the future but for now a moderator should be enough to handle things here and i think it will be best to appoint a local moderator who speaks and understands the language of the board because most post are being created using Pidgin English all through. A local moderator can easily identify spam posts.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on November 08, 2023, 04:04:51 PM

Quote from: rachael9385 on November 08, 2023, 12:36:51 PM

I totally agree with what you both are saying, the sub-board is more important than the moderator, why because without a sub-board the moderator will only have to delete, ban or lock post and not to move to anywhere (but can still move to other boards outside the L.B) so the sub-board is more important than the moderator, we should have the sub-board first before we can be ready to have a moderator, maybe a week or more, before we can get a moderator.

I think the two are important at the time like this. Both the moderator and the sub-boards are necessary now. We need the moderator (s) to clean the board from spam and shitposts. Therefore no one is more important than the other. All the two are pressing needs in the local board. The sub-boards are to divide the discussion according to their various section but the moderator will be working from all the sub-boards to make sure that all things are okay I'm the board.

Without a Moderator the main board will still have an issue like shit bitcoin Posts and low quality post. Op your effort is great and we pray the request is granted. And Moderator can move threads from o e board to another within the local board..

However, I know that the both are so dem important but what I am trying to say is that, I don't think that we can have the both at the same time because there have been so many requests from our local board that we haven't gotten any reply ye, but we are still hoping to get positive returns from the requests, so that's why am saying the sub-board is more important for now than the moderator, maybe after the sub-board then we can talk about the moderator.
The sub-board is good and also, the moderator too is good because without the moderator the local board will be full of trash post.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on November 08, 2023, 12:36:51 PM

I totally agree with what you both are saying, the sub-board is more important than the moderator, why because without a sub-board the moderator will only have to delete, ban or lock post and not to move to anywhere (but can still move to other boards outside the L.B) so the sub-board is more important than the moderator, we should have the sub-board first before we can be ready to have a moderator, maybe a week or more, before we can get a moderator.

I think the two are important at the time like this. Both the moderator and the sub-boards are necessary now. We need the moderator (s) to clean the board from spam and shitposts. Therefore no one is more important than the other. All the two are pressing needs in the local board. The sub-boards are to divide the discussion according to their various section but the moderator will be working from all the sub-boards to make sure that all things are okay I'm the board.

Without a Moderator the main board will still have an issue like shit bitcoin Posts and low quality post. Op your effort is great and we pray the request is granted. And Moderator can move threads from o e board to another within the local board..

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 08, 2023, 12:25:06 PM

Quote from: Charles-Tim on November 07, 2023, 05:48:24 AM

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I think it would be much more beneficial for you to ask for a local moderator. You have several very active members who, if they are ready to accept responsibility, should perhaps apply for local mod positions.

We are going to later ask for a moderator, but the need for other boards (especially other discussion which is meant for off-topic) is imminent. If there is a moderator moderating that board, he will not be able to delete many of the posts which some people see as spam, because many are not spam but belonging to off-topic board. Unless the moderator just want to be harsh. It is worth mentioning that moderators have fast response to the posts that I have been reporting on the board.

Yes, I agree with what you said. I happen to be normally active on the Nigerian local board, and I also suggest that there should be some sub-boards, and after the sub-boards, a moderator should arise. The reason is not far from what you have said; there are most topics that should just be on the off-topic board, but they all just get jam packed on one single board, and if there are any moderators now, I think it's actually going to be a very stressful or confused duty for the moderator, but if there are sub-bards, then it will be easier.

I totally agree with what you both are saying, the sub-board is more important than the moderator, why because without a sub-board the moderator will only have to delete, ban or lock post and not to move to anywhere (but can still move to other boards outside the L.B) so the sub-board is more important than the moderator, we should have the sub-board first before we can be ready to have a moderator, maybe a week or more, before we can get a moderator.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on November 07, 2023, 05:48:24 AM

Quote from: examplens on November 07, 2023, 05:25:58 AM

I think it would be much more beneficial for you to ask for a local moderator. You have several very active members who, if they are ready to accept responsibility, should perhaps apply for local mod positions.

We are going to later ask for a moderator, but the need for other boards (especially other discussion which is meant for off-topic) is imminent. If there is a moderator moderating that board, he will not be able to delete many of the posts which some people see as spam, because many are not spam but belonging to off-topic board. Unless the moderator just want to be harsh. It is worth mentioning that moderators have fast response to the posts that I have been reporting on the board.

Yes, I agree with what you said. I happen to be normally active on the Nigerian local board, and I also suggest that there should be some sub-boards, and after the sub-boards, a moderator should arise. The reason is not far from what you have said; there are most topics that should just be on the off-topic board, but they all just get jam packed on one single board, and if there are any moderators now, I think it's actually going to be a very stressful or confused duty for the moderator, but if there are sub-bards, then it will be easier.

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Quote from: Rikafip on November 08, 2023, 10:00:07 AM

Well, in that case won't hurt to create moderator request topic as well. You certainly won't get one until you ask for it so why not, but before that you should also discuss among yourself who would be a good moderator because if theymos gonna approve it, he will ask who you prefer to get that role.

On a more realistic side, requesting a board moderator is not what we urgently require at this moment because thyemos must be convinced with a slew of bad reports, which we lack.I'm not claiming that the LB is free of spam. I'm only stating that there isn't a lot of spam on the board. This is something that the global moderators can tackle, but I find it strange that a large number of my reports go unsolved. Our urgent demands are sub-boards and a merit source. For the time being, we can do without a Local moderator.

Quote from: Rikafip on November 08, 2023, 10:00:07 AM

You know the best which sections you actually need, just seemed weird to ask for two non-bitcoin related topics.

The main boards with serve as Bitcoin discussion and economics

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