Topic: [Proposal] Tackling the spam - page 2. (Read 476 times)

The OPs has to either lock them, which is a miracle if they happen or we could simply report them to the mods and they'll get locked soon enough.

If it encourages discussions between users, that's fine in my books. In the gambling section, most of the posts are in response to other quotes.

Well, if that's the case then shouldn't it automatically be locked or the mods should've locked it already if the issues addressed already since most incoming replies would just be a tangle of the OP and I feel like we need more of this engagement thing with users creating this threads.

Sometimes when the job tends to be too time-consuming, you tend to overlook/ take things for granted. It happened to me before so I could relate to that.

About the OP thing, most of the time the first few replies would already address the concern/ issue. It's just that those posters downright tend to ignore anything else because they don't want/ plan to engage with other users:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/that-feeling-having-your-first-merit-on-bitcointalk-5337846

Have you seen this topic? Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign)
The rules have been in place for almost 5 years, but unfortunately they're not enforced. Enforcing them would basically mean Mods have to do the campaign manager's job, and that's a lot of work.

That goes directly against the forum's mission to be as free as possible. Theymos' post under this quote is worth reading too.

I don't have any qualms with quota, it makes you work hard for what you have. I feel like those people that burst post because of having other jobs is an excuse, I mean it's not like posting in the forum is time consuming, pretty sure that people will find a way to complete their quota. Also, isn't that the point of posting in the threads? To answer the OP if it's your first post in that thread?

Because of the quota, they try to reach them by posting whatever that comes to their mind, often ignoring other posters and solely focusing on the OP's content.

Then there are those that might not have time to post consistently over the week which could be due to an IRL job, and when they realize they're falling short of the minimum threshold, they burst post.

Non joiners or even joiners themselves might find it hard to shake off the impression that sig campaign bearers tend to shitpost, but what to do, to each his own. Still, there are some legit posters out of the many.

For the wearers of signatures, how will it be considered a spam, I always try to chase the maximum posts per week and I don't burst post. Will I be affected by this because I feel like it attacks those campaigns that pays per post?

I do not think I am contradicting myself I understand the reason you proposed what you have but I think it is better to serve out bans to campaign / bounty managers instead of the forum choosing who is allowed to manage campaigns. This way it is fair to everyone creates competition between campaign/bounty managers and deals with the problem of spammers. I agree with your proposal that something has to be done but I am suggesting a alternative way which I think is more fair and achieves the same result.

You're contradicting yourself. That's the very reason I made this proposal.

You should not be tired of reporting spam, if the system you're working isn't structured to have spam. I thought that using the idiom “paper over the cracks” was sufficient to understand that while you may report frequently, there'll always be spammers this way.

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I don't want to be rude, but please don't derail this thread with the Reddit comparison. It's off-topic.

I am not implying leniency, in fact, the moderators are not lenient towards spammers, they even ban spammers if they have no good work already on this forum before, and the ones that deserved not to be banned can be temporarily banned. So, nothing like leniency when it comes to spamming on this forum. Also just know that many posts on Reddit is not as quality as many posts on this Bitcoin boards of this forum, they can just go to Reddit for pump and dump information or less quality posts. This forum in term of Bitcoin discussion is far better than any other forum.

This should not be about spamming, Reddit was even created in 2005 before Bitcointalk that was created in 2009, Reddit is not only focusing on cryptocurrencies but many other discussion are on Reddit. We can also still discuss about this forum having alternative attractive, mobile friendly sites and mobile apps. Although, I will most likely stick to this present site.

With what I still noticed about this forum, this is not possible, also, this forum does not condone spamming. This has been repeated countless numbers of times that spam posts should be reported. Or have you reported any that was not deleted?

You are right, but we can do the forum good as we are reporting it, do not be tired of reporting spam.

You have to consider the two, but if the members are spammers, they have to be banned.

No forum is still quality like Bitcointalk when it comes to Bitcoin discussions.

If we are too lenient then members will leave the forum any way and will go to places like Reddit. We are already fighting a losing battle because Reddit is a more popular platform and the format of it is more popular among young people. If we continue allowing spammers to spam what ever they want then we will lose the experienced members because they will be sick of it. The other topic showed that most people are ignoring or sick of the spam in Bitcoin Discussion. I think we need to concentrate on making the forum the best place for good discussions instead of worrying about losing members. Members will come to a quality forum because Reddit is low quality if we can beat them on quality then people will continue to come here.

If this forum is getting too strict, the users of this forum will reduce, I am not encouraging spamming but neither should I encourage too stringent rules that might possibly harm the forum. I did not comment on that last thread just because I know good posters can decide to ignore some boards and/or some users. It is true that some users only want to spam, but the Bitcoin boards is not bad to the extent these stringent rules have to be enforced. We still maintain high quality Bitcoin boards (I do not know of altcoin boards), it will not be good to turn this forum into what only stale users will only be able to visit without encouraging news users. If you see any spam post, you can report it, I always report some spam posts and removing such posts by moderators is very fast, if the moderators are excellently responding to posts that are reported, I think we should just not go further about this. Also, some good posters ignore some boards, if they do not see it useful for them. This forum is working good with the active report button.

Competition is what creates motivation not the lack of competition if you only have a couple of managers and it was hard to replace them they would become more complacent than now. The admins do not punish the campaign/bounty managers atm they only punish the sig spammers that are a part of the campaign. If they started punishing the campaign/bounty managers that is when they will change to become more constructive.

Here's the abuse of that word again! It is hunting me wherever I go. The managers are already into the admins' fate; they can't do whatever they want. Every community has to work hierarchically, otherwise it's a mess.

I firmly disagree; they'd take their job even more seriously if the spam was tackled with this professional way. The less the managers, the greater the earnings of the current ones. The less the signature campaigns, the more they can ask from their clients, because they're offering a better service.