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It may very well be reported as plagiarism, by a user or a bot, but I would think you would be very unlikely to be banned for it. If it is quite obviously supposed to be a quote, and you have just messed up the BB code, I'm sure the moderators would realize that and not issue a ban. I'm sure I remember this exact scenario being discussed in a meta thread a while ago.
I think you are right. After receiving reports from forum members, mods will do their tasks, and at the end, admins or global mods might recheck reported cases (that already checked and confirmed by mods) before doing perma-bans.
We likely have tripple-checking procedure: Bots/ Forum members > Mods > Global Mods or Admins.
What's next after reports of plagiarsims?
Posts are reported to moderators who check out the report. If the poster needs to be banned, the moderator sends a ban report up to a global mod or admin. The global mod or admin handles all of the ban reports they get at around the same time. Either the admins or global mods don't need to check every account because they trust the moderators to have already done so, or they check quickly because every such report contains references and links to the plagiarism post and to the source text so checking takes little time.
legendary
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By the way, I have only one curious question that: What happen if I the quote button to quote your post, for example, but during my time to compose my post to answer you I mis-delete the end bracket? Is this considered as plagiarism if someone else use bot to find plagiarised posts and report such posts?
It may very well be reported as plagiarism, by a user or a bot, but I would think you would be very unlikely to be banned for it. If it is quite obviously supposed to be a quote, and you have just messed up the BB code, I'm sure the moderators would realize that and not issue a ban. I'm sure I remember this exact scenario being discussed in a meta thread a while ago.
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Perhaps I use quote of article from forum out side with ordinal link occasionally just for references. However, it would be better option review post history in case if there is any copy paste.

Using another quote or research something for making a reply is a preparation component and its always accepted because no one isn't master in every section. you can obviously use this way for your knowledge development and providing quality reply's. Yeah if a user feel it necessary to review his post history than it can save him obviously.

As a newbie, we are obliged to read the rules to diligently follow it, so no excuses.

Yeah agree with your thinking and it's a responsibility for any forum user to obey forum rules and encourage others to do same.  
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The suggestion is just so timely and newbie would really need to read this to be aware.
However, we should view this a warning to prevent from being perma ban.

I am an old member of the forum and I have not effort checking my post even knowing there is a massive ban, that's because I'm confident that I'm not doing the certain violation. Most of the cases I saw was about copying post of a certain member, so the time it was made, a user was already aware he is committing a serious forum rules violation.

As a newbie, we are obliged to read the rules to diligently follow it, so no excuses.
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[quote author=tranthidung link=topic=5141952.msg51036325#msg51036325 date=1557783933]
By the way, I have only one curious question that: What happen if I the quote button to quote your post, for example, but during my time to compose my post to answer you I mis-delete the end bracket? Is this considered as plagiarism if someone else use bot to find plagiarised posts and report such posts?
[/quote

This is how your reply will look like so technically it isn't plagiarism and even though it gets reported by bot don't forget the moderators taking care of reviewing each reports are all humans so they'll consider it as a honest mistake and from my quote above it already shows I'm not the owner of the qouted message which means I'm not trying to present your post as mine so reporting such cases will just be a waste of time instead corrections should be suggested to OP

(will qoute correctly after you must have viewed my reply)

By the way, I have only one curious question that: What happen if I the quote button to quote your post, for example, but during my time to compose my post to answer you I mis-delete the end bracket? Is this considered as plagiarism if someone else use bot to find plagiarised posts and report such posts?
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legendary
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Posting content written by somebody else without providing a source is still plagiarism, regardless of whether they gave you permission to do so.
Having permission of author or not, leaving source link, full quote, or quote with author's name is the only way to avoid plagiarism. If someone don't have shady purposes, they don't mind to leave source link or quote.
By the way, I have only one curious question that: What happen if I the quote button to quote your post, for example, but during my time to compose my post to answer you I mis-delete the end bracket? Is this considered as plagiarism if someone else use bot to find plagiarised posts and report such posts?
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This rules if one really need to have a healthy bitcointalk account and free from red tag and ban you have to adhere strictly to them in other to avoid getting into any of them, and the first thing any new member should do is to read the rules of this forum and build good reputation.
legendary
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I am not sure about it as in this case the user was asked to promote the brand/project by the project itself so he did not claim it as his own content and also mentioned the project's URL which means he posted the content for the company.
Posting content written by somebody else without providing a source is still plagiarism, regardless of whether they gave you permission to do so. You are passing someone else's words off as your own.

If they used it as a quote, or included a link to the original, then that wouldn't be plagiarism. However, if there are dozens of bounty spammers all posting the same message, then there is a good chance they could be banned for spamming, rather than banned for plagiarism.
legendary
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The "rules" of an ICO or bounty campaign do not trump the rules of the forum. If you plagiarize, you will be banned.

I think an exception can be made in a minority of cases where the user is obviously a good contributor to the forum, with a history of useful and constructive posts, an extensive positive trading history, huge numbers of good reports, etc., and the plagiarism wasn't made for purely selfish/financial reasons. In these cases, a temporary or signature ban is acceptable. The vast majority of cases do not fall in to this category however, and certainly not the example you have given. People plagiarizing for the sole reason of earning money through a signature or bounty campaign deserve a permanent ban.

I am not sure about it as in this case the user was asked to promote the brand/project by the project itself so he did not claim it as his own content and also mentioned the project's URL which means he posted the content for the company. If he had to post a "Note" below the message that he is posting this content on behalf of the project, would it still be termed as plagiarism? This is similar to posting ANN threads that contains content copied from the website. I couldn't find the source of the message but it was provided by the project itself.
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I don't see the benefit of removing someone who only did damage (plagiarized) years ago, especially if they are now otherwise being a member who is contributing to the forum.
It will repeatedly happen over time. Someone might argue that:
- I plagiarised 6 months ago, and today I get perma-ban, but I might become a constructive user of the forum next month. You can not ban me today and say that I got such perma ban because you believe that I won't be able to change and become more constructive user in
- Something like two questions, will repeatedly ask over and over.

Therefore, I think that what theymos wrote is clear:
There's been no policy change. redsn0w wasn't permanently banned due to several factors which made me think that permabanning him would be a net negative for the forum. Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.
All perma-ban cases will be handled hand-by-hand. At first, people who plagiarised will instantly get perma-bans immedietaly with proof of their plagiarisms.
After that, they are constructive users and actually have significant contributions and did some positive net effects for the forum before their perm-bans, they can make Ban Appeals with all proofs of their  best contributions to ask for their second chances with ban-uplifts. I think it is fair enough.

Only one thing should be considered with signature ban period after their perma-bans uplifted:
- How long their signature ban will last?
- Which criteria will decide the period of their signature ban?
I saw a few case with signature ban for one or two years, and not sure that there are diversifying signature-ban period or not. If there are big difference, it might result in comparisons between perma-ban-uplifted users. Fortunately, total cases that get perma-ban-uplifts are so scarce, and I have a feelings that they probably satisfy with their ban-uplifts and don't want to ask for anything more from admin. At least, they have second lives.
ChiBitCTy (one-year signature ban)
redsn0w (two-year signature ban)
Limx Dev (I am not sure about Limx Dev account, signature has not shown again, but there is no text on period of signature ban)
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Hello Everyone,

Welcome to my thread. Currently in meta section i have seen a lot of ban appeal thread. So many members including legendary, DT accounts are getting ban due plagiarism issues. You can find from LoyceV's thread how and why so many accounts have got banned recently.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-wave-of-bans-400-yesterday-300-the-day-before-what-changed-5141807

Unfortunately some best contributors are also getting banned nowadays. Maybe someone actively reporting for plagiarism post or created a strong bot for reporting plagiarism I think thats the reason why people are randomly getting banne. As an example you can read this Ban Appeal . Basically their plagiarism issues was a matter of their past mistakes. In my opinion at the beginning of their forum journey they have made those mistakes and maybe they didn't know about the rules at that time. For why they haven't bother to delete their posts.  

I opened this thread to let them knows who haven't got enough knowledge about plagiarism. I will friendly suggest them to review their post history and delete the post if there is any copy - paste from others. You can save your account from plagiarism related ban by following this step. Feel free to visit this thread link for getting proper tips to avoid plagiarism TIPS TO AVOID PLAGIARISM

Honestly we don't want to lose a single good quality poster or contributor of the forum for this kind of plagiarism issues. I believe its better to erase our old mistakes and also should be careful in future to avoid plagiarism strictly.  

Special Note: Don't forget that forum rules is same for everyone.


Will make sure to read up on the rules more thoroughly. As far as I know, I haven't done anything that would fall under the umbrella of "plagiarism" in my relatively short time here.
That being said, I can't help but get a bit worried when a bot is involved. Logically speaking, a bot makes sense, moderating a large forum manually would take a lot of manpower and all that -- but the things are known to mess up, especially in early implementations. Hope that the bot's findings are manually reviewed before the hammer comes down.
legendary
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In the spreadsheet, I see that the company lasted 8 weeks and ended on June 29, 2018
Tell me please, the bounty company has really ended, and when will our bets be calculated for the work done?
Maybe, on that day lovesmayfamilis was too lazy to ask for bounty payments and copied & pasted post of another participant of that campaign. It would have been better if using quote to repeat the question, the account has likely been fined. I agreed that lovesmayfamilis should have another opportunity (with ban uplift) based on general positive net-effects in the forum with his/ her general contributions (scam findings - 79 scam projects found shown in the OP) over months.
That one is plagiarised post, sure, but it is so foolish (sorry for the word) to make such plagiarism due to seconds of lazy to ask for information. I have no doubt that lovesmayfamilis likely did not have any shady thoughts with that plagiarised post, maybe it mainly come from lovemayfamilis' second-lasting laziness.  Undecided
legendary
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Why not just make it simple? "Do not steal others content". I can't remember if I have copy paste any post especially from forum. Perhaps I use quote of article from forum out side with ordinal link occasionally just for references. However, it would be better option review post history in case if there is any copy paste. But wondering how we will detect which posts were plagiarized since lot of post on our profile.
legendary
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I am also pretty sure that the plagiarize detector is a bot, not a human/user here. That was a huge number of users get banned in a short period of time they are all busted and auto-banned, I can't imagine how it works 700 users overall had busted.
Here's I can say to avoid plagiarized content just create your own unique reply or post then you are totally fine in plagiarizing content(Don't be a lazy one). It's impossible to have the coincidence plagiarized one line sentence that you had posted with the same content in another post without the intention of copy pasting.
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Reasons why most people will plagiarize and get banned then ban appeal.
1.) Won't create their own content.
2.) They want a fast work.
3.) Lazy.
4.) Desperate in getting merit.
5.) Being "Greedy".
6.) They want "EASY" work.
7.) Easy Money💰.
legendary
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However some users did it while participating in bounty campaigns and ICOs wherein they followed rules that required them to do so and even though it is wrong, I feel such participants should be given some warning and signature bans instead of being permanently banned.
The "rules" of an ICO or bounty campaign do not trump the rules of the forum. If you plagiarize, you will be banned.

I think an exception can be made in a minority of cases where the user is obviously a good contributor to the forum, with a history of useful and constructive posts, an extensive positive trading history, huge numbers of good reports, etc., and the plagiarism wasn't made for purely selfish/financial reasons. In these cases, a temporary or signature ban is acceptable. The vast majority of cases do not fall in to this category however, and certainly not the example you have given. People plagiarizing for the sole reason of earning money through a signature or bounty campaign deserve a permanent ban.
legendary
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Nope. It is nearly the same as requirements from campaign managers to post:
- Proof of authentication
- Application form.
Campaign managers have not been banned with such above requirements, so I don't think that they will be banned with other template requirements (I maybe wrong, not sure).
I guess you meant this campaign, that results in the perma-ban of sarul. Suddenly got banned,

Campaign managers have been banned earlier for posting such requirements as it is considered "incentive-based posting strategy" and I am not talking about Proof of authentication kind of posts.

Yeah, I meant users like sarul as such campaigns should be banned instead of the users. Campaigns shouldn't make users copy-paste the same sentence as users may do it considering it's OK but it comes under plagiarism.
hero member
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In such cases the managers and project managers should be banned just like it happened earlier when the rule of many bounty campaigns was to post in the ANN thread.
Nope. It is nearly the same as requirements from campaign managers to post:
- Proof of authentication
- Application form.
Campaign managers have not been banned with such above requirements, so I don't think that they will be banned with other template requirements (I maybe wrong, not sure).
I guess you meant this campaign, that results in the perma-ban of sarul. Suddenly got banned,
legendary
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Some of those users really deserved the ban as they copy-pasted content to get merit, to increase their post count in signature campaigns and most were aware of what they were doing. However some users did it while participating in bounty campaigns and ICOs wherein they followed rules that required them to do so and even though it is wrong, I feel such participants should be given some warning and signature bans instead of being permanently banned. In such cases the managers and project managers should be banned just like it happened earlier when the rule of many bounty campaigns was to post in the ANN thread.

Sometimes users mistakenly post email content on the forum without a source link so I don't know if that can be termed as plagiarism as in such cases citing the source is tough.
hero member
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OP you should include this thread; TIPS TO AVOID PLAGIARISM so new members can benefits too.
LOL, I thank you so much for mentioning about my topic, that is more meaningful during such hottest period of plagiarism Ban Appeals. By now, banned users should spend their time to read my topic before creating their Ban Appeals. Prevention will save more time, reduce burden of stress and other things. Be more careful whenever you use Copy & Paste buttons when your account actively login, then you will be fine.
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