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Topic: [PSA] Public Service Announcement - Regarding all Gift Codes sold here (Read 6065 times)

hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
The forum rules clearly state that illegal goods are not allowed, yet the mods do nothing to stop these people.  And people aren't indirectly supporting fraud, they are DIRECTLY supporting it.  Plus if they couldn't get un-reversable (and anonymous) payments in BTC, they would have a much harder time peddling their stolen goods.  Stop buying from these scam artists.

I asked the mods few days back about selling these illegal goods and they said that there is no way for them to find that the gift card is stolen. When the sellers specify that the cards are going to expire, isn't that obvious to the members and mods?

I don't buy these cards in any case but am saddened by the amount of fraud going on here.

Yeah the mere fact they are expected to go bad and are replaced with no questions asked (and replaced for free) shows that they aren't legit.  Anyone with half a brain can see that.  And I think people have called starbucks and they were given the explanation that the cards were shut down "due to fraud."  That should be enough for the mods.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
The forum rules clearly state that illegal goods are not allowed, yet the mods do nothing to stop these people.  And people aren't indirectly supporting fraud, they are DIRECTLY supporting it.  Plus if they couldn't get un-reversable (and anonymous) payments in BTC, they would have a much harder time peddling their stolen goods.  Stop buying from these scam artists.

I asked the mods few days back about selling these illegal goods and they said that there is no way for them to find that the gift card is stolen. When the sellers specify that the cards are going to expire, isn't that obvious to the members and mods?

I don't buy these cards in any case but am saddened by the amount of fraud going on here.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Starbucks and Amazon carded gift cards are being sold here almost daily and people are buying them indirectly supporting this fraud. It needs to be stopped to save the forum's reputation as many just come here to sell their illegitimate goods which does not give out a good name of this forum.

The forum rules clearly state that illegal goods are not allowed, yet the mods do nothing to stop these people.  And people aren't indirectly supporting fraud, they are DIRECTLY supporting it.  Plus if they couldn't get un-reversable (and anonymous) payments in BTC, they would have a much harder time peddling their stolen goods.  Stop buying from these scam artists.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
Starbucks and Amazon carded gift cards are being sold here almost daily and people are buying them indirectly supporting this fraud. It needs to be stopped to save the forum's reputation as many just come here to sell their illegitimate goods which does not give out a good name of this forum.
legendary
Activity: 1143
Merit: 1000
Amazon4u,  mods don't have time for that let a trusted escrow confirm the orders.
hero member
Activity: 712
Merit: 500
I don't think it's fair to label every single person selling discounted gift cards as blackhat. Many people receive these at gifts or through discounts (for their birthday, christmas, from their work, etc.) and are willing to sell at a discount because they don't plan on using it. I have personally sold gift cards at a discount because I value the freedom of cash over the purchasing power of the gift card.

the thing is amazon gift cards are a commodity. they can be put on craigslist and easily be sold for ~90% face value. even more on ebay. so why would one offer 25% off...

he does have a point though about him having used the same account on amazon for all these orders. going back how far? i'd like to see proof of this.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
You are right.  It doesn't take a genius to figure out these guys selling $1000's or tens of $1000 worth of Starbucks cards at 30% of face value to figure out they are using stolen credit cards.  I have tried to warn people as well that they are involving themselves in credit card fraud, and that people go to jail for that.  Someone somewhere is paying the price for their cheap coffee...
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
I don't think it's fair to label every single person selling discounted gift cards as blackhat. Many people receive these at gifts or through discounts (for their birthday, christmas, from their work, etc.) and are willing to sell at a discount because they don't plan on using it. I have personally sold gift cards at a discount because I value the freedom of cash over the purchasing power of the gift card.

I never said everyone is but you have to think about what you said.

People who receive gift codes as a gift and want to sell it...would only sell one. Not open a shop.

Oh, okay. I thought you were referring to all gift card sales in general. Yes, if someone has a shop they are most likely receiving through illegal means, whether that be through carding or exploiting a third party or whatever else may be the case.

Yup and as you can see someone got uber pissed lawl.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1034
I don't think it's fair to label every single person selling discounted gift cards as blackhat. Many people receive these at gifts or through discounts (for their birthday, christmas, from their work, etc.) and are willing to sell at a discount because they don't plan on using it. I have personally sold gift cards at a discount because I value the freedom of cash over the purchasing power of the gift card.

I never said everyone is but you have to think about what you said.

People who receive gift codes as a gift and want to sell it...would only sell one. Not open a shop.

Oh, okay. I thought you were referring to all gift card sales in general. Yes, if someone has a shop they are most likely receiving through illegal means, whether that be through carding or exploiting a third party or whatever else may be the case.
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
I don't think it's fair to label every single person selling discounted gift cards as blackhat. Many people receive these at gifts or through discounts (for their birthday, christmas, from their work, etc.) and are willing to sell at a discount because they don't plan on using it. I have personally sold gift cards at a discount because I value the freedom of cash over the purchasing power of the gift card.

I never said everyone is but you have to think about what you said.

People who receive gift codes as a gift and want to sell it...would only sell one. Not open a shop.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1034
I don't think it's fair to label every single person selling discounted gift cards as blackhat. Many people receive these at gifts or through discounts (for their birthday, christmas, from their work, etc.) and are willing to sell at a discount because they don't plan on using it. I have personally sold gift cards at a discount because I value the freedom of cash over the purchasing power of the gift card.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
I feel a lot of shady stuff is going on in this forum recently and it sickens me. Hacked accounts for file sharing sites or other services like netflix are one thing since it does not hurt the original owner as much but selling hacked accounts for things like dunkin donuts is just plain wrong. You are stealing someone's money (gift card balance) and selling it for someone else to use. Although social engineering is illegal I feel a little better about it since you are stealing from a million dollar company instead of the middle class. I have great experiences with amazon4u and the order was sent fine.
full member
Activity: 123
Merit: 100
THIS IS WHY REFUND SERVICE IS BETTER, REFUND SERVICE IS JUST SOCIAL ENG.
Refund services/the use of social engineering is just as illegal (it just brakes different laws), and will likely cause the buyer to face similar consequences.

Not only that but you don't know that refund services are not using carded credit/gift cards to buy your order
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
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THIS IS WHY REFUND SERVICE IS BETTER, REFUND SERVICE IS JUST SOCIAL ENG.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change. All the ALTS please unite and send me some FACTS combating what I've said.

Lol someone is mad =D

Have a cookie.


Thank you , I think I'll have one....If there isn't anything valuable for you to say in this conversation I think I'll leave now...Peace

Yes you can leave now.


Why are you so afraid to use your real username ? You think I will start throwing negative feedback at your nice looking OLD username you treasure so much ?? I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am not into that game.... I have been accused unfairly many times before on this forum but I am yet to return a negative feedback...see the "camolist" thread or the "tomato" thread ... I can tolerate any conversation as long as it is based on arguments...and NO, I will never throw trash in your "trusted feedback" just because I can....That's not who I am....




Thought you were leaving. See you like to lie a lot. My real username? No idea what you are talking about but ok.


Thought you were leaving. See you like to lie a lot


Yes, yes, you're right...all the people who don't agree with you are liars when actually...


My real username? No idea what you are talking about but ok.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qYMl9T9wQ

Liar, liar ...



um ok then =D

Lol don't know how you get so offended when I never said you were  a scammer but MKAy..you cant ready.

I was actually hoping for a new "tutorial" from you but it seems you've exhausted all "google searches" on your first trial

I wasn't offended ...didn't had time to....I took that flash cookie, remember ? I'll be heading out now ...
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change. All the ALTS please unite and send me some FACTS combating what I've said.

Lol someone is mad =D

Have a cookie.


Thank you , I think I'll have one....If there isn't anything valuable for you to say in this conversation I think I'll leave now...Peace

Yes you can leave now.


Why are you so afraid to use your real username ? You think I will start throwing negative feedback at your nice looking OLD username you treasure so much ?? I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am not into that game.... I have been accused unfairly many times before on this forum but I am yet to return a negative feedback...see the "camolist" thread or the "tomato" thread ... I can tolerate any conversation as long as it is based on arguments...and NO, I will never throw trash in your "trusted feedback" just because I can....That's not who I am....




Thought you were leaving. See you like to lie a lot. My real username? No idea what you are talking about but ok.


Thought you were leaving. See you like to lie a lot


Yes, yes, you're right...all the people who don't agree with you are liars when actually...


My real username? No idea what you are talking about but ok.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qYMl9T9wQ

Liar, liar ...



um ok then =D

Lol don't know how you get so offended when I never said you were  a scammer but MKAy..you cant ready.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change. All the ALTS please unite and send me some FACTS combating what I've said.

Lol someone is mad =D

Have a cookie.


Thank you , I think I'll have one....If there isn't anything valuable for you to say in this conversation I think I'll leave now...Peace

Yes you can leave now.


Why are you so afraid to use your real username ? You think I will start throwing negative feedback at your nice looking OLD username you treasure so much ?? I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am not into that game.... I have been accused unfairly many times before on this forum but I am yet to return a negative feedback...see the "camolist" thread or the "tomato" thread ... I can tolerate any conversation as long as it is based on arguments...and NO, I will never throw trash in your "trusted feedback" just because I can....That's not who I am....




Thought you were leaving. See you like to lie a lot. My real username? No idea what you are talking about but ok.


Thought you were leaving. See you like to lie a lot


Yes, yes, you're right...all the people who don't agree with you are liars when actually...


My real username? No idea what you are talking about but ok.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qYMl9T9wQ

Liar, liar ...

full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change. All the ALTS please unite and send me some FACTS combating what I've said.

Lol someone is mad =D

Have a cookie.


Thank you , I think I'll have one....If there isn't anything valuable for you to say in this conversation I think I'll leave now...Peace

Yes you can leave now.


Why are you so afraid to use your real username ? You think I will start throwing negative feedback at your nice looking OLD username you treasure so much ?? I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am not into that game.... I have been accused unfairly many times before on this forum but I am yet to return a negative feedback...see the "camolist" thread or the "tomato" thread ... I can tolerate any conversation as long as it is based on arguments...and NO, I will never throw trash in your "trusted feedback" just because I can....That's not who I am....




Thought you were leaving. See you like to lie a lot. My real username? No idea what you are talking about but ok.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change. All the ALTS please unite and send me some FACTS combating what I've said.

Lol someone is mad =D

Have a cookie.


Thank you , I think I'll have one....If there isn't anything valuable for you to say in this conversation I think I'll leave now...Peace

Yes you can leave now.


Why are you so afraid to use your real username ? You think I will start throwing negative feedback at your nice looking OLD username you treasure so much ?? I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am not into that game.... I have been accused unfairly many times before on this forum but I am yet to return a negative feedback...see the "camolist" thread or the "tomato" thread ... I can tolerate any conversation as long as it is based on arguments...and NO, I will never throw trash in your "trusted feedback" just because I can....That's not who I am....


full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change. All the ALTS please unite and send me some FACTS combating what I've said.

Lol someone is mad =D

Have a cookie.


Thank you , I think I'll have one....If there isn't anything valuable for you to say in this conversation I think I'll leave now...Peace

Yes you can leave now.
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