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Topic: [PSA] Public Service Announcement - Regarding all Gift Codes sold here - page 2. (Read 6065 times)

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Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change. All the ALTS please unite and send me some FACTS combating what I've said.

Lol someone is mad =D

Have a cookie.


Thank you , I think I'll have one....If there isn't anything valuable for you to say in this conversation I think I'll leave now...Peace
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Activity: 280
Merit: 100
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change. All the ALTS please unite and send me some FACTS combating what I've said.

Lol someone is mad =D

Have a cookie.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.




lol ....look at all the ALT usernames roaming free in this thread...Smiley I am very surprised to see such a lack of manhood on Bitcointalk....you guys really like stealthy game play I guess...


His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.


Why don't you underline my "wrong things" in my reply and send me some arguments for a change ?! All the ALTS please unite !!!
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.

Yes. He got very offended. Overall His reply to this thread had a lot of things wrong.
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amazon4u is 50% probability a carder or 50% he buys the gift cards from carders.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
Hey guys it has come to my attention that people who are selling gift codes are making false claims saying they are not obtained via carding. Many users who purchase these from shops always have that question in mind if they are obtained legally or illegally. Because the shop owner is running a service they will falsify and lie to their clients saying they are obtained legally without providing any proof whatsoever.

I am here to just let you guys know how they are obtained. I am not claiming any one of the sellers as scammers but due to the fact people are offering 10%+ off has lead also scammers to make fake shops to scam people as come on at least 25% off is a very good deal and people would fall for it. That is just on a scammers point but there are people who do professional carding and card gifts cards > Sell to users via Bitcoins > profit. Those people run a legit service but they will say they are obtained legally which they are not.

Gift Cards known to be used and carded and sold to people:
  • Amazon - For their reputation it is pretty sad to see how Amazon gift cards are easily carded.
  • Best Buy - They have some anti fraud measures but a professional is still able to do it.
  • Starbucks - Have the worst security ever!

Why the seller does not care:
Once they card the codes they will work as fast as they can to sell them as in 40% of all cases on Amazon cards they will be revoked within 24 hours of it being carded if caught.
They are not using the codes themselves so its not a worry to them.

Possible risk to buyers:
  • Although this will not happen there are still people who have their orders canceled or are asked to return the item. Failure to comply will result in contact of your local authorities (All you have to do is say you don't know how it was obtained and that you just bought it).
  • Termination of your account and blacklisted - This rarely happens but if you are...trust me its going to suck big time
  • Being lied straight to the face - As I mentioned you as a buyer would be asking if they are obtained legally and they would just lie and tell you no so they can make sales.

Common Sense:
  • Anybody who is selling something for 25%-70%+ off is pretty damn obvious they are obtaining this from a method not legal. Even if they are not carding it themselves there can be many factors like buying from a supplier who cards or using exploits to buy it cheap (This happens more than you think). Hence its still obtained illegally or in a shady method.
  • Every purchase you make goes to them funding into more Credit Cards which can be obtained for about $2-$5 each allowing them to card more. Thus, creating a endless cycle of promoting carding.
  • If you noticed they will soften things up and try to ignore obvious questions and or if you ask a question that can shut down their service they would just reply to you with a "Send me a PM" instead of posting a reply to the public in case they mess up.

Educational Purpose: How they are able to Card the said Gift Cards

Keep in mind I am only posting this as some people don't know how it works so I am posting the method on how the cycle works.

1). The seller purchases or obtain a hacked credit card from many sources.
2). Based on the card holders details the seller would obtain a Sock5 Proxy i the same location(City) as the card holder.
3). The seller then uses the card holders information to purchase the gift codes via email so they can sell or redeem (If does not work they will skip the Hacked CC and try a new one)
4). Once sold to a users on BitcoinTalk they now have enough money to Buy new cards and Sock5 Proxies allowing them to rinse and repeat the cycle.

I just thought I give people a few heads up regarding things like this as I am pretty sure this site doesn't allow blackhat or illegal means of obtaining these but I don't know about that. Otherwise I thought people should know.



Please MasterCarder I have some humble questions for you ...I will refer onto the Educational Purpose: How they are able to Card the said Gift Cards as it is the most interesting and I bet many people would like know more stuff about it....

Here is your "tutorial" :

1). The seller purchases or obtain a hacked credit card from many sources.

We all have coins and heard about SilkRoad and Evolution so that shouldn't be too hard .

2)Based on the card holders details the seller would obtain a Sock5 Proxy i the same location(City) as the card holder.

Probably some good security doesn't heart anyone.Cool


3)The seller then uses the card holders information to purchase the gift codes via email so they can sell or redeem (If does not work they will skip the Hacked CC and try a new one)

Please tell us MasterCarder, how does a carder manages to use the SAME AMAZON ACCOUNT every time without being closed ? If he is adding so many CARDED GIFT CARDS to the SAME AMAZON account than how come Amazon DOES NOTHING to his account ?

If I prove that I am using the SAME AMAZON ACCOUNT for all orders (and I will be using it for a lot more than a year), what will you say ? That Amazon is retarded and allows people to use stolen credit cards on the SAME ACCOUNT until the end of time ??


People wake up, and stick to what you know...and you my friend learned carding from Google, you have no idea what you're talking about...Amazon blocks your account even when using your OWN CREDIT CARD sometimes...they are called FRAUD FILTERS, and Amazon pays VERY WELL an army of fraud specialists to ensure that  they DON'T GET SCREWED . Because if they didn't have a FRAUD DEPARTMENT , they would be "out of business" .
It is impossible to use the SAME AMAZON account if you plan on doing "funny business"on Amazon.... Amazon will suspend your account in a flash and how will you explain all those chargebacks to get your Amazon account re-instated ??

Please tell us CARDERMASTER....you'll have 20 chargebacks on your account, how will you explain those 20 chargebacks to Amazon ?? How will you convince Amazon to re-open your account, let you use the SAME ACCOUNT and keep on carding until you die ?  Please tell us CARDERMASTER...


Your method is science fiction...If you're into that I can recommend you some nice movies

4). Once sold to a users on BitcoinTalk they now have enough money to Buy new cards and Sock5 Proxies allowing them to rinse and repeat the cycle.

The Bitcointalk users you talk so much about have repeat orders themselves...Repeat orders means that they order again from Amazon....and if what you say it's true that shouldn't work, because their delivery address is already blacklisted by Amazon from the previous chargeback... See ? another dead end to your nice googled tutorial...

None of my customers had any problems and I am ready to give the login of my Amazon account to a Moderator here so he can confirm that all my orders are made from the SAME AMAZON ACCOUNT and NOT RANDOM AMAZON ACCOUNTS like you suggested!!!
Any Mods willing to check that out ?




Another chapter of your " Google search carding tutorial" that I want to approach is this one...

Here is what you wrote :

Common Sense:

    Anybody who is selling something for 25%-70%+ off is pretty damn obvious they are obtaining this from a method not legal



Please surf these tho websites :

www.purse.io

www.brawker.com


Do you still think 25% OFF is impossible now ?? Please elaborate ...

Here are some press releases for you, so you see that the 2 companies I've listed above are indeed legitimate. One is based in San Francisco and the other  one in Australia

http://www.coindesk.com/purse-io-can-shave-25-bitcoin-buyers-amazon-bills/

http://www.coindesk.com/purse-io-closes-300k-funding-expand-amazon-discount-service/

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/14040/brawker-cyril-houri/


If you don't like my press releases, just Google the 2 companies....I know you like Google, you just wrote a nice tutorial....I will be waiting for your response since you've just opened a thread here....it's not fair to hit and run with an ALT username, we all know who you are...at least be a man and use your OLDER username you like so much....




full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
Hey guys it has come to my attention that people who are selling gift codes are making false claims saying they are not obtained via carding. Many users who purchase these from shops always have that question in mind if they are obtained legally or illegally. Because the shop owner is running a service they will falsify and lie to their clients saying they are obtained legally without providing any proof whatsoever.

I am here to just let you guys know how they are obtained. I am not claiming any one of the sellers as scammers but due to the fact people are offering 10%+ off has lead also scammers to make fake shops to scam people as come on at least 25% off is a very good deal and people would fall for it. That is just on a scammers point but there are people who do professional carding and card gifts cards > Sell to users via Bitcoins > profit. Those people run a legit service but they will say they are obtained legally which they are not.

Gift Cards known to be used and carded and sold to people:
  • Amazon - For their reputation it is pretty sad to see how Amazon gift cards are easily carded.
  • Best Buy - They have some anti fraud measures but a professional is still able to do it.
  • Starbucks - Have the worst security ever!

Why the seller does not care:
Once they card the codes they will work as fast as they can to sell them as in 40% of all cases on Amazon cards they will be revoked within 24 hours of it being carded if caught.
They are not using the codes themselves so its not a worry to them.

Possible risk to buyers:
  • Although this will not happen there are still people who have their orders canceled or are asked to return the item. Failure to comply will result in contact of your local authorities (All you have to do is say you don't know how it was obtained and that you just bought it).
  • Termination of your account and blacklisted - This rarely happens but if you are...trust me its going to suck big time
  • Being lied straight to the face - As I mentioned you as a buyer would be asking if they are obtained legally and they would just lie and tell you no so they can make sales.

Common Sense:
  • Anybody who is selling something for 25%-70%+ off is pretty damn obvious they are obtaining this from a method not legal. Even if they are not carding it themselves there can be many factors like buying from a supplier who cards or using exploits to buy it cheap (This happens more than you think). Hence its still obtained illegally or in a shady method.
  • Every purchase you make goes to them funding into more Credit Cards which can be obtained for about $2-$5 each allowing them to card more. Thus, creating a endless cycle of promoting carding.
  • If you noticed they will soften things up and try to ignore obvious questions and or if you ask a question that can shut down their service they would just reply to you with a "Send me a PM" instead of posting a reply to the public in case they mess up.

Educational Purpose: How they are able to Card the said Gift Cards

Keep in mind I am only posting this as some people don't know how it works so I am posting the method on how the cycle works.

1). The seller purchases or obtain a hacked credit card from many sources.
2). Based on the card holders details the seller would obtain a Sock5 Proxy i the same location(City) as the card holder.
3). The seller then uses the card holders information to purchase the gift codes via email so they can sell or redeem (If does not work they will skip the Hacked CC and try a new one)
4). Once sold to a users on BitcoinTalk they now have enough money to Buy new cards and Sock5 Proxies allowing them to rinse and repeat the cycle.

I just thought I give people a few heads up regarding things like this as I am pretty sure this site doesn't allow blackhat or illegal means of obtaining these but I don't know about that. Otherwise I thought people should know.
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